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The Nuclear Card

Daniel Pipes’ Unhealthy Obsession with the Hijab

Posted on 28 December 2009 by Zingel

Daniel Pipes: Bizarre Fixation on Hijab

Daniel Pipes: Bizarre Fixation on the Hijab

(Read an UPDATE here)

In a running column entitled, “Hijab on Western Political Women,” failed academic turned zaney anti-Muslim blogger, Daniel Pipes, sets out to (in his own words):

For fun, how about collecting those instances when female political leaders, especially leftist ones, don the hijab (Islamic headscarf)?

(What normal person sitting before a computer thinks up of such a bizarre thing to do when trying to “have fun” anyway? Welcome to the world of Pipes I guess. )

Pipes then includes photos of princess Diana, queen Elizabeth, Laura Bush, Hillary Clinton, Chelsea Clinton and Angelina Jolie, among others, wearing a Hijab when at various mosques.

This caused us to wonder, surely Mr. Pipes is not sexist. Surely, he would invite the same scrutiny to the men in their lives: princess Diana’s husband and queen Elizabeth’s son (prince Charles, heir to the British throne), Laura Bush’s father-in-law and husband (George H.W and George W., both U.S. Presidents), Chelsea Clinton’s dad and Hillary Clinton’s husband (Bill Clinton, U.S. President) and Angelina Jolie’s dad (actor Jon Voight). Surely Mr. Pipes would not want to give those men a pass, especially given all of them (but the last) are far more important politically than their women.

Well since Daniel Pipes is not very good at holding a mirror up to his face, we here at loonwatch volunteered to do that for him. Seeing that Mr. Pipes is Jewish, we put together the following photo display (true to a Daniel Pipes style presentation) – one that is relevant to his own religion not someone else’s – to see what he thinks of it and what he reckons it signifies.

So “for fun”, Mr. Pipes, how about  collecting those instances when Western (and Eastern) male political (and non-political) leaders, especially leftist (and rightist and centrist) ones, don the kippah or yarmulke (Jewish skullcap)?

We start with the most politically powerful men on the planet, U.S. presidents:

President Bill Clinton wearing a yarmulke

U.S. President Bill Clinton wearing a yarmulke

President George Bush wearing a yarmulke

U.S. President George Bush wearing a yarmulke, flanked by Israeli ministers Shimon Peres and Ehud Olmert

President Barack Obama wearing a yarmulke

U.S. President Barack Obama wearing a yarmulke while praying at the Western Wall

President George Bush the father wearing a yarmulke as he kisses the Western Wall

U.S. President George Herbert Bush (the father) wearing a yarmulke as he kisses the Western Wall

President George Bush wearing a yarmulke as he prays at the Western Wall

U.S. President George Bush wearing a yarmulke as he prays at the Western Wall

President George Bush wearing another yarmulke

President George Bush wearing another yarmulke

American Senator Joe Lieberman puts a yarmulke on the head of former presidential candidate senator John McCain

American senator Joe Lieberman puts a yarmulke on the head of then presidential candidate, senator John McCain

And other politically powerful world leaders:

British prime minister, Gordon Brown, wearing a yarmulke

British prime minister, Gordon Brown, wearing a yarmulke

Then British prime minister Tony Blair wearing a yarmulke

Then British prime minister Tony Blair wearing a yarmulke

French president Nicolas Sarkozy wearing a yarmulke

French president Nicolas Sarkozy wearing a yarmulke

Then Japanese prime minister Junichiro Koizumi wearing a yarmulke as he prays at the Western wall

Then Japanese prime minister Junichiro Koizumi wearing a yarmulke as he prays at the Western wall

Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin wearing a yarmulke

Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin wearing a yarmulke

Prince Charles of Wales, regent to the British crown, wearing a yarmulke

Prince Charles of Wales, regent to the British crown, wearing a yarmulke

And other American political men:

"America's Mayor" Rudi Giuliani, mayor of New York City, wearing a yarmulke

"America's Mayor" Rudy Giuliani, mayor of New York City, wearing a yarmulke as then Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon looks on

Clinton's Special Middle East Coordinator Dennis Ross wearing a yarmulke

Clinton's Special Middle East Coordinator Dennis Ross wearing a yarmulke

US ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton, wearing a yarmulke, not in a temple but at the Republican National Convention

US ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton, wearing a yarmulke - not in a temple but at a Republican National Convention

And to match Angelina Jolie, how about some entertainers including her own father:

Evangelical Christian actor Stephen Baldwin wearing a yarmulke not at a temple but at a Republican National Convention

Evangelical Christian actor Stephen Baldwin wearing a yarmulke - not at a temple but at a Republican National Convention

Actor Jon Voight holding up his yarmulke at a Republican National Convention

Actor Jon Voight (Angelina's dad) holding up his yarmulke at a Republican National Convention

Michael Jackson wearing a yarmulke

The king of pop, Michael Jackson, wearing a yarmulke

And how about other world faith leaders:

His holiness, the Dalai Lama, wearing a yarmulke as he prays at the Western Wall

His holiness, the Dalai Lama, wearing a yarmulke as he prays at the Western Wall

And speaking of political mixing with religious:

The "Mccippah", a play on "McCain" and "Kippah" which means yarmulke, a feature at the Republican National Convention 2008

The "Mccippah", a play on "McCain" and "Kippah" (yarmulke), a feature at the Republican National Convention 2008

Now, we have a few simple questions to ask Mr. Pipes:

First let’s get real: clearly, Mr. Pipes is not interested in some irrelevant, uneventful “fun” on that merry temple of love and good times of his, danielpipes.com. Everything he writes and puts on there he does so with a purpose in mind. It seems that his “little fun” hijab photo display was yet another sorry attempt to cry “Islamization” and “dhimmi” and all of the favorite concepts he and his friends love to evoke.

So here goes the questions:

1. Do you believe that non-Muslim Western women who wear a hijab when visiting mosques or other Islamic religious settings are doing it as a sign of respect, or a sign of capitulation and a consequence of Islamization?

If the former then what’s the point of your running photo display? And if the latter which more logically seems to be the case, then:

2. Do you believe that non-Jewish Western men who wear a skullcap when visiting a temple or other Jewish religious settings are doing it as a sign of respect, or a sign of capitulation and a consequence of Judaization?

If the former, then why the double standard? And if the latter then why haven’t you sounded the alarm to save the West from Judaization.

More questions:

3. What would you say and how would you react if Western political women not only wore the hijab at the mosque but prayed there while they are at it? Would you see it as a lovely sign of camaraderie, an expression of tolerance, a sign that we all share a common God? Or would you cry “dhimmi”? Just curious.

(If the latter then kindly educate us: what is the “dhimmi” equivalent of a Western political man – a head of state no less – who does the same but within the context of Judaism rather than Islam?)

4. You seem to gloat about the reporter who took off the “Chador” (a traditional Islamic dress worn in conservative Iran) and threw it at Imam Khomeini whom she was interviewing. Now, I personally believe that Khomeini was a loony Imam. But I am just curious, would you also gloat if a reporter threw a yarmulke at some loony rabbi like say, Chief Rabbi Ovadia Yosef or Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira or Rabbi Jon Hausman? Just curious.

5.  Are you aware that Eritrea is not an Islamic country and that it has as many Christian citizens as it does Muslim. Are you aware that Hillary Clinton is not necessarily wearing a hijab in the photo of her in Eritrea, but a traditional Eritrean loose shawl worn by both Muslims and Christians there? Are you aware that every other American woman in that photo (and there are at least three) are not wearing a similar shawl clearly proving that it is Hillary’s choice not some enforced evil Islamic spell on Western women as seems to be implied. Q: So if it’s neither enforced, nor a hijab to begin with, why do you use that photo. A: expediency. Typical of Mr. Pipes.

6. Lastly, if some blog put up a display like the one above with the insinuation that there is some insidious force at play, would you not cry anti-Semitism? SO, given your photo display and the accompanying shady commentary, aren’t readers then well within their rights and the bounds of reason to cry Islamophobia? Just curious.

Mr. Pipes, we await your response to our questions. For the rest of our dear readers, this has been a little peek inside the  paranoid mindset of an Islamophobe and the convoluted, often petty, ways in which it processes our world.

(For the record, LoonWatch, unlike Mr. Pipes, takes the consistent position that both non-Muslim women wearing hijabs in Islamic religious settings and non-Jewish men wearing yarmulkes in Jewish religious settings is a sign of respect and nothing more. And that wearing them outside religious settings is indeed strange but a personal choice that is no cause for alarm or geopolitical analysis).

- Zingel


Author’s Note: Daniel Pipes makes a lame attempt to address the hijab/yarmulke comparison in a 2008 addendum to his article in which he “rejects” the comparison altogether, stating in typical Pipesian delusional style that such a comparison is irrelevant, and positing that the “tallit” the Jewish prayer shawl is instead more comparable to the Hijab.

This is nonsense.

The tallit is not worn in public everyday life the way Muslim women wear the Hijab in daily public activity (for Hijabis); however, Jewish skullcaps are worn in daily public living (for Jewish Orthodox men). The yarmulke, not the tallit, is the closest Jewish analogy to the Hijab.

He also implies that half the pictures of Western women wearing the Hijab is not in a mosque while most Western men who wear the skullcap are in a temple. Not true, they are exactly analogous and proportional. Most of the pictures of the Western women wearing a Hijab is in fact in a mosque or mosque setting and it is usually a simple headscarf not some full body chador as he implies but even his collection of pictures clearly contradict (Iran, a conservative theocracy, being the exception not the norm). On the flip side, our photo display has photos that debunk his insinuation that Western men wear yarmulkes only in temples.
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40 Comments For This Post

  1. Ustadh Says:

    I came to the site looking to see if there was anything new and I see the hilarious picture, I couldn’t wait to delve into this newest piece!

    One of the top LW pieces! Zingel you really did a stellar job!
    How you juxtapose the loony conspiracy that people such as Pipes and company fall into, thinking that Western women wearing hijab is a sign of islamization or dhimmitude is revealed in all its silliness when the questions are flipped in this manner!

  2. mrJinx Says:

    A+! Thx Zingel and Loonwatch. Appreciated your logical easy-to-follow flow. This man needs a mirror held up to his face a little more often. I like how you called out that he does little for fun on that blog of his and that he clearly had a statement to make about the hijab display. I agree with your analysis of it and the best way to expose it was through this parody, it makes it crystal clear to readers.

  3. Demarcus Florencia Says:

    I really enjoying reading your well written articles Zingel.
    Pipes is becoming more and more trashy. He is nothing but a trivial punk and this is certain by the fact that he had this ongoing series about the hijab.

  4. Lex, Agent of Chaos Azagthoth Says:

    Holy crap. I just endured a storm on my own of religious intolerance. I posted one little comment on a Facebook comment complaining about “Christians having a holiday” and it being “shoved down” this person’s throat every December. This person then proceeded to throw a temper tantrum of a libelous and insulting avalanche onto my head on various web sites.

    No problem, I can handle this crap, I’m used to it from working this end of the blogosphere. But how my Muslim friends even can function with this constant questioning of their beliefs is beyond me! I want to hug and kiss all of the friends I have who’ve had to defend their beliefs against these bigots! How are you guys still sane after the barrage of attacks daily by those loons written about here? Bless you, take this virtual hug from me and know that you NEVER need to even start justifying yourselves around me ever again!

    I’m now even more devoted to smashing these Islamophobe creeps after weathering my recent storm! And as for my former friend and her bigotry, check out her own blog post and tell me that this isn’t bigotry? That if you replaced all of the uses of “Christian” with “Muslim” that this chick wouldn’t be the equivalent of Plastic Pammycakes?:

    http://kristenferrell.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/raising-a-godless-child-in-a-bible-thumping-culture/#comments

    Virtual hugs and kisses to all in this season of giving (for me anyways) and know you’re safe with me at least. Those were just my chickens coming home to roost and all…LOL.
    xoxoxoxox
    Lex

  5. Lex, Agent of Chaos Azagthoth Says:

    Ohhh, and I almost forgot. I had a Pammy Hijabi to drop by here specifically for this post:
    http://govvs.blogspot.com/2009/06/pamela-gellers-hate-makes-no-sense.html

  6. Sultana Says:

    could someone challenge the “Dr” Pipes character to answer the questions?

  7. Neo Con Alert Says:

    Daniel Pipes either doesn’t know his own religon or he is lying.

    A Tallit, is only worn by Jews at morning prayer times during the weekdays, on the Shabbot or holidays. It is only worn for prayers and is not something you wear all the time even if you take into account the different versions of interpretations and rituals regarding how and when to wear a Tallit.

    The same cannot be said for the Yarmulke, also known as skullcap or kippah.

    A kippah is traditonally worn by observant Jews at all times. Some Reform Jews wear kippot and yarmulkes only while praying, eating, or doing some form of ritual study or action.

    Amongst the differing sects in Judaims there are different opinions regarding the necessity of wearing Kippot all the time by Rabbi’s, presumabley because you have to adapt to which culture or time you are living in. For example, in the 1600s, scholar David HaLevi Segal of Ostrog, Ukraine, suggested that Jews should never uncover their heads in order to help distinguish them from Christians — especially while praying.

    In Islam there are some religious authorities that state modesty is a woman’s adornment, and it need not include Hijab as long as she is modestly covered. What is regarded as the standard of modesty is what is modest where you are living. However, most Islamic religious authorities regard the whole of a woman’s body as being awrah (forbidden for the public to see) except her face, hands and feet. That is why observant Muslim women hear Hijab, however, many do not, simply because they don’t observe all the laws, or they want to follow the modern fashions and show their “new hairstyle”

    Therefore, it is more appropriate to compare wearing the Kippah/Yarmulke/skullcap to the Hijab, and not the Tallit.

    Daniel Pipes needs to have his head seen to.

  8. Christian Zionism exposed Says:

    Zingel thanks very much for showing this hypocrite for what he is, and his false sly comparison of the Hijab to the tallit instead of Kippah. Why doesn’t he fight Islamic extremists instead of alienting all Muslims with his bigotry? He claims to support mainstream Muslims, but i’ve yet to see him do anything other than antagonise and anger them.

    Daniel Pipes looks like he has had an electric shock in the picture!

  9. Do you think Says:

    he will even answer these questions? If he does he will only reply with obfuscation…

  10. The guy whose not Imad :p Says:

    Nice job! Did u send these questions to Daniel?

  11. Pro Palestine Says:

    Daniel Pipes has many healthy obsessions not just Hijab’s. At his website he has a feature called
    Glamorous Muslim Political Women
    http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2009/08/glamorous-muslim-political-women

    featuring beautiful powerful Muslim women like Queen Rania al Yasin of Jordan, Benazir Bhutto of Pakistan, Sheikah Mauza of Qatar, Mehriban Aliyeva (Azerbaijan former Russian) and others.

    I guess he is subconciously saying that Muslim women can wear the pants too, and be glamourous at the same time so “be like this”

    I wonder how he feels about the Jewish tradition of Orthodox women not being allow to show their hair? They have to wear wigs, or shave their heads.

    In all fairness, he shows contempt for Jewish tradtions and religion too, because he lauds the fact that Jews “became secular” as did Chrsitians, but that muslims still are observant, even though Islam and Judaism have more in common with each other, than either religon does with Christianity.

    To better understand his point of view, readers should read the op-ed below..

    His oped here clarifies this point more..
    The Jewish-Muslim Connection: Traditional Ways of Life
    http://www.danielpipes.org/160/the-jewish-muslim-connection-traditional-ways-of-life
    Of the three great monotheistic religions, Judaism and Christianity appear far more closely linked to each other than either is to Islam.

    …There are many reasons for this. Theologically, the Old Testament is central to Judaism and Christianity, while Islam ignores the Bible in favor of the Qur’an. Demographically, the once-flourishing Jewish communities in Muslim countries have been decimated, and it is easy to forget that most Jews once lived among Muslims; for the last 500 years most Jews have lived in the Christian world. Culturally, Christians and Jews live at the vanguard of human experience, whereas Muslims had a harder time with twentieth-century life.

    Notwithstanding these points, Judaism and Christianity differ profoundly in religious terms; the real resemblance is between Judaism and Islam.

    ….While most Jews cheerfully accept modern life, Muslims contest every concession to it. As a result, Judaism today appears in many ways more akin to Christianity than to Islam; and in many ways it is. Yet this is new. For many centuries, adherence to divine law made Judaism and Islam kindred spirits. Conceivably they could be so one day again; but that will happen only when Muslims too abandon the law.

    ————

    and the last line sums up his problem and what he wants.

    That is the problem with these secular and atheist Jews. “become like us”
    Not just to us, it’s fair to say, they’re usually bigoted against their own observant brothers and sisters too for not being secular and rejecting the “strange and peculiar” religious rituals.

    Does anyone if Pipes is married or what? It’s always interesting to know what a spouse thinks of an extremist partner.

  12. johanna Says:

    What do you mean by “their women?” Are you a sexist, Zingel?!

  13. what the what Says:

    @Pro Palestine: Jewish women don’t shave their heads in order to get out of wearing a wig or something. Heads are shorn as punishment or some women do it in mourning.
    they also wear different kinds of scarves.

  14. Suhaila Says:

    Johanna

    I think you got it wrong. Zingel, wasn’t being sexist by saying, “their women.” I m sure he meant it in the sense of “their wives, girlfriends, etc.”

  15. Reply to Pro-Palestine Says:

    I wouldn’t call that a healthy obsession either, and I also have heard contradictory statements from Pipes on Jewish law.

    He says the above, which sounds critical of Jewish law, but I have read and heard him say that Jewish law is different than Islamic law, that it is infact better and that the two shouldn’t be compared.

    As far as what women wear that is up to them, it is up to women to decide what they want to wear the point of this post seems to be to show that the whole conspiracy idea is misbegotten and that Pipes has fallen for that card.

  16. Nabeela Says:

    Zingle,

    Thank you sooooooooo much for this. Will write more about Dr Pipes, and this tomorrow, I think i have today enough in my alter ego’s:)

    Just wanted to say how great you and the Loon Watch team are:)

    I bet you’re getting sick of hearing that..LOL

  17. Zingel Says:

    Guys, thanks so much for your support. And no Nabeela, we never get tired of hearing it :-)

    Johanna, no I am not sexist, “their women” is similar to saying “their men.” If you read the sentence, you’ll note that it is reasonable shorthand as opposed to saying “are far more important politically than the wives of some of them, the mothers of some, and the daughters of others,” etc.

  18. Nabeela Says:

    Lex,

    I’m sorry you had a bad experience over online Christian bigotry. Ironically, whilst Catholicism today, is not what it was say several centuries ago, people still lump the differing Christian sects together.

    Unfortunately, America is unique in that it has a “Christian” problem in politics, or at least it did, till Obama was elected, which is actually quite modern. The angry tea bagger parties are proof that they won’t go quietly, and are looking for ways to get back into power where they can do more damage to the country.

    Where the rest of Christianity became more tolerant and modernised, this Dominionist sect of Christianity suddenly mushroomed in America with all the ugly and bigoted facets that got left behind in Europe. In so gaining power, it ruined America, just like religion kept Europe chained till she shed her Christian identity.

    In Europe Christianity is very secular, particularly in places like Switzerland, thats why the call American’s Bible belt “Christian Taliban”

    I dare say the bigotry you experienced was targeted at these extremists, but the more ignorant people will blame all American Christians, though the more mainline churches including Catholicism find their idea’s repugnant.

    Happy holidays to you too:)

    xxx

  19. Layla Says:

    Daniel Pipes in a blue Hijab? I’d love for him to see this, he’ll be furious….. hehehehe

    What a beauty of an article! Nice rebuttal, complete with pictures so Pipes cannot deny or obfuscate. As for the picture of Pipes in his blue Hijab…..ha ha ha haHa Ha Ha Ha Ha,

    HAHAHAHAHAH

    Excellent job Loon Watch, Loon Watch must be making these Loons quake in their boots. I bet they live in fear wondering what your next NEWS SCOOP will be ;) )))

  20. Khalid Says:

    Not to mention that woman leaders wear a hair covering when they are in the presence of the Pope.

  21. iSherif Says:

    Wonderful, wonderful piece…totally smoked him out. Objectivity is obviously not his stronghold.

  22. DrM Says:

    @Lex,

    “But how my Muslim friends even can function with this constant questioning of their beliefs is beyond me”

    Questions we welcome, slander and abuse is another story. Islamophobia is the opium of fascists.

  23. HGG Says:

    Great post, as usual.

    One slight correction, though:

    “Laura Bush’s husband and son (George H.W and George W., both U.S. Presidents)”

    Laura is W’s wife.

    I have never seen that pic of Obama at the wailing wall. Kind of goes against the current loon narrative of him being a Skret Mslim and anti-semite.

  24. AF Says:

    Great job Zingel, very nice post!

  25. Zeeshan Says:

    Wonderful article. Thanks loonwatch

  26. Nissa Says:

    Pipes needs a life! OH NOES ANGELINA WORE A SCARF OVER HER HEAD- THE MOSLEMS ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD!! What a tragic case of being totally off your rocker!

  27. Zeeshan Says:

    The article makes sence , as every article in loonwatch. And thanks to all the authors for working so hard. since revealing truth is definitely a very hard work.

  28. iHungarian Says:

    Damn, Pipes, Zingel showed you! This is the beautiful thing about loonwatch, for years these clowns have been getting away with the shallowest most ridiculous analysis and commentary for one reason and one reason alone, because there were few people out there who were deconstructing their rants and challenging them, either they were taken seriously by gullible folks or dismissed as morons by the rest… but it is important they are actually debunked logically… they are so far off that they are begging to be debunked half the time, and finally I am so so glad there is a site like this that is doing just that in a smooth, entertaining and informative manner… thank you thank you. LW needs to start accepting donations!

  29. George Carty Says:

    @DrM

    Anti-semitism – the original socialism of fools
    Green ideology – the new socialism of fools
    Anti-Catholicism – the liberalism of fools
    Islamophobia – the feminism of fools

  30. Az Zaqqum, Islamic Scholar to the Infidel Says:

    and I hope you have the balls to post my first post.

    Hijab is NOT islamic!

  31. Ryan Says:

    indeed. this site is a blessing

  32. Zingel Says:

    Thx HGG, fixed it. Az Zaqqum, nope your first post featuring a crappy poem about a dog and Muhammad was axed and not published. You’re in luck though, there’s this site called jihadwatch, try them, they love crappy material over there.

    And sure, Hijab is NOT Islamic:

    Jewish Hijab
    It’s Jewish

    Jewish Hijab
    yup, Jewish

    Christian Hijab
    and Christian

    Christian Hijab
    yup, Christian

  33. Nabeela Says:

    ihungarian, I totally agree with you, and most of the other commentaters here (except the AzZakum scholar…God, which rock did he creep out from under? no offence to the little creepy crawlie there…)

    Zingel the last post was brilliant with pretty pictures. Thank you..I wonder if Pipes knows you beat him at his own game so well…LOL

    One suggestion if I may, when you carry pictures it would be wonderful if there was litte caption giving date and location. It’s more informative that way.

    A bit later on, i’m going to post something that highlights the double standards that Daniel Pipes employs..this time regarding Muslim women being allowed to marry outside the faith. It’s not about Hijab’s, but in a way, tt’s related to the above article as it displays his breathtaking hypocricy. Feel free to add it to your article above if it helps get the message across.

  34. Proud Muslim Says:

    What happens when Wafa stalin Sultan and Daniel Pipes get together?

    Well, here is this sorry pair, debating together, earlier this month. There is a video too for anyone who wants to see

    Moderate Islam: Western Ally or Western Myth?
    by Daniel Pipes and Wafa Sultan
    http://www.danielpipes.org/7843/moderate-islam-western-ally-myth
    Middle East Forum
    December 1, 2009

  35. Nabeela Says:

    “Well since Daniel Pipes is not very good at holding a mirror up to his face, we here at loonwatch volunteered to do that for him. Seeing that Mr. Pipes is Jewish,”

    I’ve noticed this double standard in a lot of his so called observations on Islam. He pretends that they are unique to Islam. As well as Hijab, his statements of Turkey reforming Islam were more than hypocritical.

    —————————————
    Is Turkey’s Government Starting a Muslim Reformation?
    May 22, 2008
    http://www.danielpipes.org/5554/is-turkeys-government-starting-a-muslim-reformation
    What to make of this initiative? Serious efforts to modernize Islam, which this appears to be, are most welcome. Does the project’s avoidance of the headscarf topic also imply its not taking up female legal rights, women marrying non-Muslim men, ribba (interest on money), jihad, the rights of non-Muslims, and the creation of an Islamic order?
    —————————————————
    What i want to focus on here is his questioning if the “reformation” planned by Turkey would allow Muslim women to marry non Muslim men.

    Even in America, Orthodox Judaism only recognises marriage between Jews only. The Reform and Modern Orthodox have somewhat lax laws that do allow some kind of intermarriage between faiths, but Orthodox is the standard that is considered bona fide Judaism. In the USA, any Orthodox Jew who wants to marry a non Jew can do so in a CIVIL marriage but not in a religous one.

    But in Israel, which Pipes touts as a “Democracy”, there is no civil marriage allowed at all! Only religious marriages between the different faiths are allowed. Jews cannot marry a non Jew, in Israel.

    So why does he expect Islam to “modernise” when his own religion hasn’t, and even in the USA the Orthodox won’t bless intermarriage between faiths. Certainly not in Israel.

    The Israeli law site clarifies the marriage laws. Just to show how prejudiced and bigoted Pipes is, I have included a link from the Guardian in which Chinese workers had to sign a contract saying they wouldn’t have sex with Israeli women, nor any religious or other rights. Basically they were little more than slaves.

    So much for a democracy! When this happens in a Muslim country (and I’m not denying that it goes on in Muslim countries) it is used to smear Islam. But neither Pipes, nor the Loons, nor the neo con controlled media make mention of the duplicity of the Islamophobes comparisons regarding Israel.

    I wonder how Pipes would get out of this one…I for one would like to see what he has to say to this. Remember, as a Jew, Pipes and Geller like all Jews have right to citizenry in Israel.
    ————————–
    Marriage – Options in Israel
    http://www.family-laws.co.il/marriage-options-in-Israel
    Cohen Cannot Marry Converted Jew

    Jewishness Doubted – Conversion Before Jewish Marriage

    ——————————
    Chinese workers in Israel sign no-sex contract
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/dec/24/israel1
    Chinese workers at a company in Israel have been forced to agree not to have sex with or marry Israelis as a condition of getting a job.

  36. Danios Says:

    Great article, Zingel. Keep em coming.

  37. DrM Says:

    This reminds of the lie put out there about Iranian Jews being forced to wear yellow star badges by Amir Taheri.

    http://drmaxtor.blogspot.com/2006/06/presenting-amir-taheri-badge-of.html

  38. Lex, Agent of Chaos Azagthoth Says:

    I always see that woman’s name as Woofer Sultan. Every time.

  39. Noor Says:

    I wished they could have compared it to tefillin. That would have been much more fun.

  40. Satish k Kapoor Says:

    Sir,

    Even if hizab is not Islamic,why do Muslims alone make it an issue? Why again,geniuses like you waste time in gathering material on this subject to score a point. Why again,you never ask,why hizab is important for a woman not for a man? How much scientifically justifiable is hizab in hot sultry weather in tropical countries? Would this discussion ever end? Would it not lead to arguments and counter arguments,landing no one anywhere? Who wears what is a personal matter? But when we would grow up and discard what has become redundant in course of time? Do we go long distances on camels or horses today? Send messages through pigeons. Times have changed. Should we not?

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