(Read the whole piece at WhatIfTheyWereMuslim.com)
On Sunday November 7th at 3:30 pm, followers and supporters of Rabbi Meir Kahane from Canada and America will gather at Ground Zero ostensibly to rally against “political Islam.” Why is this important news for many Americans who consider Ground Zero a sacred site? Because Rabbi Kahane is the founder of the villainous Kach Israeli political party, a group on the U.S. State Department’s official list of terrorist organizations.
A little background on Mr. Kahane: he was a hardline ordained Jewish Rabbi who advocated the removal of Arabs from Palestine in order to create a homogeneous “Greater Israel” modeled upon Jewish religious law. His slogan is “every Jew a .22.”
Widely denounced by other Jews as a racist, he gained worldwide infamy when one of his followers, the notorious Baruch Goldstein, perpetrated the Cave of the Patriarchs massacre, wherein Mr. Goldstein brutally gunned down dozens of Palestinian Muslim worshippers who were praying inside the Abraham Mosque. Another one of Mr. Kahane’s followers is on trial in Michigan for shooting an Arab man in an act of road rage.
And British activists in the Kahane-inspired Jewish Defense League have cozied up, ironically enough, with the thuggish English Defense League despite their attachment to the violent neo-nazi outfit Combat 18. In short, Mr. Kahane is something of a folk-hero for extremists bent on Jewish domination of the Holy Land at the expense of indigenous Arabs and Muslims, including Arab Christians. In a few weeks, Mr. Kahane’s followers are bringing their message of hate and racial supremacy to Ground Zero.
I repeat: supporters of an officially designated terrorist organization that advocates an unforgiving expansionist religious-political ideology are meeting to honor their racist terrorist leader on the site of the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history.
Stereotyping Jews or any group because of the actions of an extremist fringe is deeply wrong. But this situation begs the question: what if they were Muslim?
Imagine, if you can, the thunderous firestorm that would be unleashed if supporters of Al-Qaeda gathered at Ground Zero to honor Osama Bin Laden. The scene would be too ghastly for words, with 24 hour cable news coverage, politicians on both sides of the aisle lining up to score points for condemnation, and Muslim-bashing bloggers having a field day. All of Islam and all Muslims would bear collective guilt for their actions. Muslim leaders across the country would denounce terrorism only to be told that they have not denounced terrorism enough or that they are secret stealth jihadists. It would be said, “Where are the moderate Muslims? Why do they not condemn terrorism?” And Steve Emerson’s fear-mongering-for-profit operation would continue to rake in millions. You get the picture.
But as for Mr. Kahane’s followers, we aren’t going to hear a peep out of Newt, Palin, Spencer, or Geller. We will not hear Bill O’Reilly speaking down to Jews on his show about their “Jewish problem.” And we will not hear the same chorus of outrage about the holiness of Ground Zero or the sensitivities of 9/11 victims’ families.
Why? Because these particular terrorists are not Muslims. It is as simple as that.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
I repudiate them!!!!!!
October 28th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
having an airhead day, is it repudiate or refudiate
October 28th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Lol Mindy!
October 28th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
He advocated “the removal of Arabs from Palestine in order to create a homogeneous “Greater Israel” modeled upon Jewish religious law”
When some Muslims would like to create an Islamic State and even keep the Non-Muslims as they are, there is outrage. The big Palestinian terorist groups have said that they would allow original Palestinian Jews to live in their country in a future Palestinian State, so this guy must be worse.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
You can be forgiven for that mistake Mindy. Reading too much stupidty in a single day by these anti muslim loons can temporarily lower your I.Q.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
lol mindy… damn Sarah Palin!
October 28th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
@marco
Tell me about it. Here’s a vid that demonstrates the perfect response to mentioned loons.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
I know, now that i think about it, it is repudiate, and NOT refudiate :p
October 28th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Glad I could give you guys some amusement
October 28th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
I’m sure if anybody were to try to stop these people geller and spenser would go into overdrive organizing a rally to support them and would blog how the evil Muslims are trying to take away the jdls right to honor the memory of a Ghandi like figure. So the building of Cordoba house bad. Terrorists geller likes gathering at sacred Ground Zero good.
October 28th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Someone should send this article to Kilmeade.
October 28th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Pure Kahanism
Kahanism is being spread to a new generation of Israelis:
http://mondoweiss.net/2010/10/settler-network-promotes-racist-comics-to-bring-meir-kahane-to-a-new-generation-of-israelis.html
October 28th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
@ Crow:
> I’m sure if anybody were to try to stop these people geller and spenser
> would go into overdrive organizing a rally to support them and would
> blog how the evil Muslims are trying to take away the jdls right to
> honor the memory of a Ghandi like figure. So the building of Cordob
> a house bad. Terrorists geller likes gathering at sacred Ground Zero good
Well like I’ve said before, despite claims of a ‘liberal media,’ there is a definite bias against Islam, Arabs and pretty much anything from the Middle East or surrounding regions in the American news. Think I’m lying? How often have you seen a ‘fair and balanced’ portrayal on Palestine, 9-11, Iran, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, etc… The news outlets will find and interview some bearded lunatic who claims honour killings are great and that Jews must die, all while playing vaguely Middle Eastern sounding music in the background and showing pictures of domed buildings that may or may not be mosques. But when was the last time they interviewed mainstream American Muslims or LEGITIMATE academics who have studied Islam?
No, if the media was balanced they wouldn’t be giving MORE attention to Pamella Geller, Robbie Spencer, Danielle Pipes and the like, all of whom even a quick google search would reveal know jack shit about Islam and the Middle East, let alone the broader Muslim world. The fact is that money from Emerson, Whoreowitz and other Islamophobes has been paying for their interviews, paying for their fame, and most of all, paying to keep prominent Muslims out of the news and media. They’ve tried to keep al-Jazeera English from being broadcast in the US. Why? Because while the American news agencies were supporting Bush’s war in Iraq and writing about Britney Spears and other irrelevant celebrities, al-Jazeera was actually reporting REAL news. Ditto for BBC and a dozen other news agencies you won’t hear about.
The fact is that there ARE Americans who know Baruch Goldstein was a terrorist, who know that this is bullshit, and we are not allowed to express our voices. So much for freedom eh? We have the ‘freedom’ to believe what other people tell us too, and if we don’t then we are ‘un-American’ and ‘terrorist sympathizers’ or ‘stealth Jihadis’.
October 28th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Guess which city these people held a rally at:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2CuMLQpa3bU/SYYOuuBOjkI/AAAAAAAACDU/hOOecFJsAeY/s400/juicedeathuv4.jpg
October 28th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
The guy in the picture is actually waiting trial for terrorism related charges.
October 28th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Monsters!
October 28th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
How often have you seen a ‘fair and balanced’ portrayal on Palestine, 9-11, Iran, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, etc…
Quite often, actually.
Think I’m lying?
How often do you hear the media refer to any other religion but Islam as a religion of peace?
October 28th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
/\ sure they do because its like there disclaimer exactly like when a raciest makes a raciest joke and then says i am not raceist or anything i have alot of Black friends
October 28th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
They cant been seen or its not PC to be a raceist on tv so they made sure they say it before they make there raceist bigot comment and your pic you sound more and more like a 4chan troll….
October 28th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
/\ sure they do because its like there disclaimer exactly like when a raciest makes a raciest joke and then says i am not raceist or anything i have alot of Black friends
Is that why Christianity is never referred to as a religion of peace whenever the Crusades or Tim McVeigh is brought up?
I think you can easily discuss the teachings of Islam without lying (by referring Islam to a religion of peace) in a sensible and articulate manner.
The media is only interested in parroting the PC talking points, hardly has the media ever treated Islam like it would Christianity.
October 28th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
@Crow–well said. It isn’t terrorism that Geller, Spencer and other Loons are against–it’s Islam and Muslim people. Anything that is against Islam and Muslims is automatically good in their eyes.
October 28th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
^^^WOW and I thought there is a limit fot Loonism!!
October 28th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
The situation for the two groups — Christians and Muslims — is remarkably similar. In both religions, it is possible for adherents to point to numerous passages, beliefs, and traditions which are unequivocal in their support for peace, love, and forgiveness. In both religions, it is also possible for adherents to point to numerous passages, beliefs, and traditions which are unequivocal in their defense of war, violence, and even brutality — particularly in the name of “justice,” however that might be defined
There are legitimate grounds for conservative Christians’ complaints that however much Muslims may talk about peace, too many Muslims examples of “Bad “Muslims. What conservative Christians must understand, though, is that their religion could be used in exactly the same manner — and indeed it has in the past and still is Today . That this does not happen so often today is less a sign of greater virtue on the part of Christianity and more a demonstration of how their society has changed.
When 19 Muslim men crashed two planes into the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001, it was widely labeled “Islamic terrorism,” even as many Muslims cringed at the term.
So when nine members of a Michigan-based Christian militia, fueled by visions of the apocalypse, laid plans to gun down police officers, is it “Christian terrorism?”
Many Muslims, and others, think it should be.
”In cases of violence committed by Muslims, when it’s politically motivated, yes, call it Muslim terrorism. But when other faiths or ideologies commit violence, it has to be the same
Its called consistency and there is none in the Media today
October 28th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Roman Conaway was never mentioned in the media as a “Christian Terrorist” when he belived he was acting on the orders of a higher power and bible when he wanted to takeout Muslims and Obama…If he was muslims i am sure he would be a “Islamic Extremist” a “Follower of Islam” and a example in your list of bookmarks of extremist muslims
October 28th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
CAIR: MUSLIM WOMAN VERBALLY ASSAULTED IN NC WALMART -
(WASHINGTON, D.C., 10/28/10) — The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today said a Muslim woman was verbally assaulted Tuesday in a Oxford, N.C., Walmart by a man shouting religious slurs. CAIR is calling for additional hate crime charges to brought against the alleged assailant.
A 31-year-old African-American Muslim who wears an Islamic head scarf reported to CAIR that an older white man first asked her, “Hey, are you Muslim?” When the Muslim woman replied that she is Muslim, the alleged attacker then reportedly shouted, “God damn you. F*ck you. Go the f*ck back wherever you came from.”
The man also reportedly spit in the woman’s direction and approached her in a manner she perceived as threatening. He was charged with ethnic intimidation and released. A November 29 court date has been set. The victim says she is now living in fear of retaliation from the alleged perpetrator or his friends.
“An American Muslim woman should be able to go about her daily routine without fear of being assaulted because of her faith,” said CAIR National Communications Director Ibrahim Hooper. “We urge local prosecutors
October 28th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
I dont know why you guys guys give jihad bob attention, hes obviously made up his mind about Islam and isnt interested in learning and discussion, but just trolling. He dosent belive groups like the jdl are terrorists he doesnt beliue christians can be terrorists (although they seem to be getting more common) and he’d say they were anomoly and not representative Christianity. So bob slither back to jihad watch or atlas shrugs where you and the other mindless drones can share lies about Islam
October 28th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Is that why Christianity is never referred to as a religion of peace whenever the Crusades or Tim McVeigh is brought up?
Wrong. Robert Spencer published a book called Religion of Peace?: Why Christianity Is and Islam Isn’t and put a pic of a crusader with a sword on the cover–the moron isn’t exactly the smartest dude in the world.
I think you can easily discuss the teachings of Islam without lying (by referring Islam to a religion of peace) in a sensible and articulate manner.
Many people can, but certainly neither you nor Robert Spencer has the ability to. You both come off as irrationally anti-Muslim, and you both aren’t doing yourselves any favors by continuously using vitriolic language and indulging in conspiracy theories.
The media is only interested in parroting the PC talking points, hardly has the media ever treated Islam like it would Christianity.
Two suggestions. Watch Fox. Think before you comment.
October 28th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
@JD,
But it’s not just the various “terrorist” groups in either Islam or Christianity. One must also consider those “legitimate” groups who intentionally or carelessly kill the innocent, like using drones to kill a few “terrorists” and dozens of innocents die as “collateral damage.” We cannot casually dismiss the innocent victims of war any more than we should dismiss those innocents directly killed by “terrorists”.
Considering body counts, far more innocent civilians have been killed by uniformed forces than “terrorists”…and in the asymmetric warfare currently waged, it will likely coninute to be this way.
October 28th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Terrorists openly convening on our soil! And not a peep from Robert Spencer the clown ass or Atlas Shrieks?
October 28th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
Western Media Double Standard:
http://www.linktv.org/video/4261/western-media-double-standard
To my surprise I found a comment by eslaporte. It’s the first one posted (click on the link).
October 28th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Look…
According to the ‘western media’, there is no such thing as a Zionist terrorist.
October 29th, 2010 at 7:53 am
Wrong. Robert Spencer published a book called Religion of Peace?: Why Christianity Is and Islam Isn’t and put a pic of a crusader with a sword on the cover–the moron isn’t exactly the smartest dude in the world.
You pretty much proved my point with that comment.
Spencer’s book was a rebuttal to the media’s insistence that Islam is a religion of peace while at the same time showing that a true religion of peace would be Christianity.
So: a) says Islam is a religion of peace, b) never makes these claims regarding any other religion.
put a pic of a crusader with a sword on the cover
I agree, some aren’t the smartest in the world.
Seems like he was turning a stereotypical representation of Christianity (the Crusades!) on its head by contrasting the image on the cover with the title of the book.
Two suggestions. Watch Fox. Think before you comment.
Will do. And I’ll be happy to point out that Fox is biased towards Islam just as all other media is.
October 29th, 2010 at 7:56 am
So when nine members of a Michigan-based Christian militia, fueled by visions of the apocalypse, laid plans to gun down police officers, is it “Christian terrorism?”
Again, I have no trouble agreeing (based on the current facts that I know of of the case) that these men and woman were Christian terrorists.
However, as Medved pointed out, the difference between Islamic and other ‘religious’ terrorism is quantitative and qualitative.
October 29th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Robert, Robert you are too funny .Have you thought of writing for the Daily Show?
Fox News biased towards Islam . I would be very interested in how you have come to this startling conclusion.
Was it because they let poor Pam ‘human Rights Activist ‘ Geller make a fool of herself ?
Oh dear you really do need professional help.
October 29th, 2010 at 9:14 am
JihadBob said, “the difference between Islamic and other ‘religious’ terrorism is quantitative and qualitative.”
Of course there is a difference! ‘Our’ terrorists have a causal reason to resort to violence as a last means of ensuring our freedom. ‘Their’ terrorists on the other hand are just barbarians who love to destroy our freedoms.
Right JihadBob?
October 29th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Kudos to Jihadbob for finally accepting that terrorists can be Christians too.
October 29th, 2010 at 9:21 am
So now Bob is using this quantitative/qualitative crap? What difference does it make? Terrorism is terrorism! Killing innocent lives is wrong. You can’t justify it by using the quantitative/qualitative excuse! Instead of standing with us against terrorism, bigots are making it worse by adding more fuel to the fire and dividing this country and inciting more violence. What a shame!
October 29th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Kushboo
Well said Sir murder is murder, does not matter who it is that is killed .
Robert of course wants to say our murderers are not as bad as your murderers . What strange lack of morality is this? Who is he to decide who is on his side or not ?
Is it not written
whosoever killeth a human being , it shall be as if he had killed all mankind,
So what does that make someone who keeps count?
October 29th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
‘Our’ terrorists have a causal reason to resort to violence as a last means of ensuring our freedom.
All terrorists will find political reasons as justification for their actions, if you dig down enough.
The LRA are fighting against a brutal dictatorship and for ‘alcholi’ nationalism.
But I have to wonder, what freedoms are Islamic terrorists fighting for?
The Pakistani Taliban, Af Taliban, AQI? Seems like these groups are fighting from freedom rather than towards it.
Do you, in your little remark, think that an Islamic state set up by these terrorist group will provide more freedoms to the people under their control as opposed to the current forms of government in Iraq, Pak and Afghanistan?
October 29th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Western Media Double Standard:
http://www.linktv.org/video/4261/western-media-double-standard
To my surprise I found a comment by eslaporte. It’s the first one posted (click on the link).
Is this seriously your evidence of media double standards and bias?
Good grief, use some common sense here.
One attack was carried out by an individual (who is on trial) the other attack was by the *state* – where the police officers have remain unmolested by the killing.
Oh, and the fact that Neda’s death was filmed and all could see it over and over (kind of similar to the alleged killing of a Pal-Arab boy by the Israelis in 2000) again had such a resonance in the Muslim and Western world.
Just use some common sense next time and try to answer a question yourself before you bring up such absurd arguments.
October 29th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Mohammed tops list of English baby names
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/10/28/uk.mohammed/index.html?hpt=T2
October 29th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
JihadBob asked, “Do you, in your little remark, think that …”
JihadBob is referring to what Syed said, “Of course there is a difference! ‘Our’ terrorists have a causal reason to resort to violence as a last means of ensuring our freedom. ‘Their’ terrorists on the other hand are just barbarians who love to destroy our freedoms.”
JihadBob! Only an extremely bigoted person such as yourself will fail to see the irony in my remarks. You are not only a bigot, but a blinkered idiot as well. Where in my post did I mention the religion of the terrorists? You immediately presumed that I was implying that the bad terrorists were Christian!
So you think the LRA is fighting dictatorship? Can you tell me who is the dictator ruling 6 countries in central Africa where the LRA operates?
October 29th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
“The Pakistani Taliban, Af Taliban, AQI? Seems like these groups are fighting from freedom rather than towards it.”
Take a close look at any of the videos released by the Pakistani Taliban and you will see that they are angry that America pressured Pakistani soldiers to turn their guns on fellow Muslims. Currently, didn’t you mention in another comment that Pakistani soldiers were engaged in torture of suspected militants and I told you that they did so with the blessing of America. I’ll quote you here, “Think before you comment”.
October 29th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
JihadBob, did you seriously ask us what Al Qaeda in Iraq is fighting against?
October 29th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Will do. And I’ll be happy to point out that Fox is biased towards Islam just as all other media is.
Wait..what?!
You’re delusional. Only a far-right nut would hold such a delusional belief; ask anyone else, especially moderates, and they’ll disagree with you completely. I could bring up dozens of instances proving you wrong.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-7-2010/wish-you-weren-t-here
Seems like he was turning a stereotypical representation of Christianity (the Crusades!) on its head by contrasting the image on the cover with the title of the book.
Yep, I can’t think of a better way to prove Christianity is a religion of peace than to justify the Crusades. Apart from the Crusades, Spencer also has no qualms with this particular comment by Ann Coulter, and even seems to go at great lengths to defend it.
we should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.
I think it’s fair to call someone who defends those words a bigot.
October 29th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Is this seriously your evidence of media double standards and bias?
Perhaps they should contrasted it with Murfreesboro TN mosque non-controversy? No? How bout’ Fox’s indignation at Juan Williams firing? No?
Thought so.
Good grief, use some common sense here.
Um…you’re the one who sincerely believe that Muslims are secretly trying to take over the West.
Oh, and the fact that Neda’s death was filmed and all could see it over and over (kind of similar to the alleged killing of a Pal-Arab boy by the Israelis in 2000) again had such a resonance in the Muslim and Western world.
Alleged? Pal-Arab boy? Are you trying to tell me that you’re a bigot? Don’t worry–everyone already knows.
Also, Robert Spencer is against many people who supported Iran’s Green Party–apperantly you’re not a freedom fighter if you don’t hate Muslims.
October 29th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
You pretty much proved my point with that comment.
Your comprehension (of your own writing) is bad. Here’s your non-point (that I proved wrong).
Is that why Christianity is never referred to as a religion of peace whenever the Crusades or Tim McVeigh is brought up?
Robert Spencer and other nutters refer to Christianity as a religion of peace while (I kid you not) calling for a new crusade and justifying the old ones.
October 29th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
Your comprehension (of your own writing) is bad. Here’s your non-point (that I proved wrong).
Really, you’re stupidity is starting to get tiresome.
Go back and read the other poster’s comment I was responding to to figure out who the ‘they’ in my post is referring to.
I’ll give you a hint, it starts with an ‘m’ and ends with an ‘a’.
October 29th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Yep, I can’t think of a better way to prove Christianity is a religion of peace than to justify the Crusades.
If anyone asks, say you were raised and educated in Canada.
I’d hate for anyone to know that the American education system failed you this badly.
October 29th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
^ LoL
I suggest that people look at JB’s latest comment. He thinks Fox is biased for Islam (not against it) and believes that Crusades somehow prove Christianity is a religion of peace, among other loony things.
Wouldn’t expect anything better than a dude who is trying to defend a terrorist organization.
October 29th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
“I’d hate for anyone to know that the American education system failed you this badly.”
I think its pretty obvious the American education system is failed. It produced the epic moron George Bush and a generation of inbreds that elected him twice.
October 29th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Yes Mo, and in all fairness majority of us Americans were very embarrassed to have Bush as our President. *hangs head in shame*
October 29th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Funny, JihadBob (Spencer’s troll) seems to have no problem with Kahane and his racist ideology. He’s only upset that any meaningful parallel can be drawn between Islam and other religions.
October 29th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
I want to make this clear:
“Terrorists are neither Christians, nor Muslims, nor Jews. They are insidious criminal satanists. Period.”
I bet no one of you belongs to them, so stop debating them and focus on something more constructive.
Either they are dead, in jail or in hiding, they are infecting and contaminating your minds by giving them too much attention.
In photography, if you set too much focus on one area, everything surrounding that area becomes blurred. The same thing applies to our perception of reality, if we pay too much attention to one aspect of it, the rest of it gets lost and misunderstood.
October 29th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Faux News biased towards Muslims?? Erm, WHAT!! *sigh* let’s add that to the ‘Things that Bob thinks without the aid of hallucinogenics’ list. I might start a book out of that list, it’s going to be a comedy I think, maybe with a bit of tragedy. You’ll love it…
October 30th, 2010 at 12:02 am
Why do you all even give jihad bob’s hate fest any time. Remember, we complain about the western media…then we let ‘people’ like jihad bob control the conversation. Ignore jihad bob, and he will go find another place to be.
Let this be Muslims telling thier own story. If Jihadbob wants to postivily contribute, let him. Of course, we honour his/her right to say what he/she wants, but lets ignore the propaganda and hate.
Perhaps, this can be a form of daw’ah for him. We treat him kindly, tell him about Islam, correct him gently, and treat him as any other seeker.
October 30th, 2010 at 2:34 am
There’s
Fighting for peace.
Fucking for chastity
&
JDL against terror.
This guy will be at the rally —
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj81QvbYpZg
In 1994, in his capacity as Canadian spokesman for the banned Israeli political party Kach, Meir Weinstein, using his pseudonym of Meir Halevi, commented on the Cave of the Patriarchs massacre committed by party member Baruch Goldstein in Hebron saying “our organization does not condemn the attack. It condemns the Israeli government for not providing adequate protection for settlers.”
October 30th, 2010 at 3:08 am
Looking at the gathering of the Jewish terrorist group of the assasinated Rabbi,Meir Kahana,in a positive manner,it is good that they will hold their rally against “political Islam” at Ground Zero. Give the Jewish terrorist fascists enough rope to hang themselves by themselves:
Since they will hold their rally at Ground Zero,most likely,a huge audience numbering in the millions will watch the TRUE COLOR of Jewish fascism. And it will be a plus for Islam and Muslims because they are a bunch of fanatical bums.
October 30th, 2010 at 5:31 am
Garo, Hate rallies are never a good thing! It actually inspires ignorant people (too many, sadly) to join in at the expense of Muslims who are part of the lower Manhattan community. These guys are organized and scary! This could also result in more violence and vandalism i.e. slain cabbie and peeing at the Queens mosque. I know you’re trying to look at the bright side here but sadly, the insane ones will have a stronger voice and the sane ones will just shake their head and probably stay away from this mess. JMHO.
October 30th, 2010 at 6:03 am
I suggest that people look at JB’s latest comment. He thinks Fox is biased for Islam (not against it) and believes that Crusades somehow prove Christianity is a religion of peace, among other loony things.
Wouldn’t expect anything better than a dude who is trying to defend a terrorist organization.
Here is what I actually wrote:
Seems like Robert Spencer was turning a stereotypical representation of Christianity (the Crusades!) on its head by contrasting the image on the cover with the title of the book.
October 30th, 2010 at 6:26 am
Bob, yes you did say that but you also said that “Fox is bias towards Muslims” and do you not agree with Spencer that Christian is a religion of Peace?
October 30th, 2010 at 6:30 am
“Seems like Robert Spencer was turning a stereotypical representation of Christianity (the Crusades!) on its head by contrasting the image on the cover with the title of the book.”
Makes no bloody sense! You would have to either be Spencer or a Spencer wannabe to justify Spencer’s idiotic choice of picture.
October 30th, 2010 at 7:05 am
@ Sir David :Khusboo is the word for pleasant fragrance.She is a woman,Madam david.By the way ,the Verse you have quoted from Quran,Sura5:32,says that the Jewish People were told that if you kill one human being,it is, as if you have killed the whole humanity ……… That verse was not for the Muslims .Also, you do not find that any where in the Torah.Mohammad just made that verse up.Your Ignorance and Intellect horifies me.You have stooped so low to sell your integrity for a few pieces of silver to betray the TRUTH and APPEASE the PRINCE OF TERROR,WHO boasted:I HAVE BEEN MADE VICTORIOUS WITH TERROR;SAHIH BOKHARI 4:52:220.
October 30th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Halal Pork, you shouldn’t be one to talk about lack of intellect. Just saying.
October 30th, 2010 at 7:45 am
Guys and gals shall I bother writing a reply to Mr Pork’s junk or not? I mean, we all know the answer already and telling him is like talking to, haha, ‘pork’ (‘can’t teach meat’) sooooo opinion?
October 30th, 2010 at 8:33 am
I am glad to see them coming out of the hide! That will expose them. W e should contact the Justice department because they are at their terrorist watch list. Also I have documents that one of their followers and supporters is a person name Joe Kaufman also a Jewish Radical extremist. Should be watched by the Justice Department.
For more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Kahane
By Br. Sofian Zakkout
http://www.alamana.org
October 30th, 2010 at 9:41 am
JC, have at it!
October 30th, 2010 at 10:24 am
It’s hardly worth the effort though is it Khushboo? I mean clearly he doesn’t read it… maybe we should organize a rota to babysit him/her/it?
October 30th, 2010 at 10:25 am
Bob, yes you did say that but you also said that “Fox is bias towards Muslims” and do you not agree with Spencer that Christian is a religion of Peace?
Yes, I agree with my previous comment.
You can ask me another comment I wrote and I’ll tell you that I agree with that, too.
October 30th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Then you’re a fool Bob, plain and simple. Now go apologize for the Inquisition or something.
October 30th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Halal Dork
You must have a different version from mine . Must be the book of Moron.Did you get Bobs copy?
I am impressed that you can tell so much about someone from their
screen name. Let me think …..What does yours tell me?
Unfortunetly as a gentleman I cannot use such language in front of ladies and young children suffice it to say you are a sargent in the legion of the followers of Onan
let us know when you have woked that one out.
October 30th, 2010 at 11:51 am
We may be some time on that one Sir David…
Seriously though, I am quite prepared to refute stuff that is by misinterpretation etc, but when someone is blatantly making it up I don’t see the point. Then again in his world that’s probably what he wants, someone not ‘refuting’ = victory.
October 30th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
@ Sir David : You have no sound knowledge about Islam and Muslims but you tend to denigrate Robert Spencer,who has written excellent books on Islam and exposed the truth about its Innovator.How many books have you ever written,that you could boast about?like wise,Pamella Geller is abused and ridiculed for fun by your Muslim friends,who are no match to her intellect.She speaks openly in Public about her views.What about you?What stops you from expressing your views against those two individuals in public?I do not think that you have the guts and you do not deserve to be called :SIR: Loading books on a DONKEY does not make it an INTELLECTUAL.Watch yourself from the heat,in case you get defrosted.By the way,I admire LADY GAGA.Jihad Bob can beat all of you with his logical arguments.
October 30th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
“who are no match to her intellect.”
I’m surprised Pamela Geller knows how to read and write.
October 30th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Lolololol, somebody here just made a public declaration of admiration for Lady Gaga and thinks PamPam’s intellect can’t be matched.
The goalpost! They moved it!
Talk of them; not to them. ;p
October 30th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
lol
I started cracking up while reading Halalpork’s latest comment. What was that about Lady Gaga again, eh Halalpork?
October 30th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Hahaha, despite what you seem to think halal porker, some of us on these forums actually ARE Muslim, and many of those who aren’t have at least educated themselves about Islam, whether through contact with Muslims or good old fashioned reading. You, reading from LEGITIMATE books and articles. There’s no shortage out there. Hell, you could even go read the Holy Qur’an for yourself and make up your own mind.
The fact is, little robbie boy is nothing more than a FAKE and every single book he has written about Islam is a bunch of bullshit, filled with lies, half-truths and outright libel! Just because something is published doesn’t mean shit. Quite frankly, both Geller and Spencer have only ever published books that are aimed for the popular mass market. Go ahead, pick up a copy from your bookshelf and check who published it. It wasn’t a university, or academic institution of any kind. Most of them were pushed through by Regency, a company owned by white supremacists.
Since you believe Spencer to be soooo brilliant, tell me why he doesn’t speak Arabic, or any other pertinent language like Persian, Turkish, Malay, Hausa, Swahili, Somali, Urdu or the like. Tell me why he has never gone to the Middle East to do research, outside of raising funds in Israel. Tell me why he has absolutely NO formal education background in Islam, Arabic language, or Middle East studies. He has nothing more than a MASTER’S DEGREE in some obscure Medieval hagiographies… he doesn’t even have a doctorate! He can hardly be called a scholar…
In fact, do you know how many articles he has published in academic, peer-reviewed journals? Two! And neither of them were about Islam or anything even remotely related. If he REALLY was a scholar, wouldn’t he have published more? The fact that he hasn’t indicates that he doesn’t have a career as a scholar and is either lazy or stupid. Likewise, Pamella Geller has NO academic credentials whatsoever. Her opinions are just that; opinions. She is essentially just a well funded blogger, not a ‘scholar’ or ‘expert’.
Do you know how Pamella Geller and other pundits get on the news? They pay an agent to bill them as an ‘expert,’ because it is such a vague and meaningless term. Anyone can call themselves an ‘expert,’ because it doesn’t mean you hold a degree in a subject, or have any formal training. It’s just a matter of having money and time on your hands. Geller evidently has both. Her claims have about as much merit as a ‘conspiracy expert’ or ‘UFO expert’ going on TV and talking about something else they can’t really prove.
October 30th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
oh Porky, it takes one second to look up Khushboo and know it means fragrance but that doesn’t mean I’m a girl. For all you know, I could be Dr. Dre, you know a real doctor or I could be Lady Gaga.
October 30th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Halal Pork wrote, ” Loading books on a DONKEY does not make it an INTELLECTUAL.”
Ummm… Did Halal Pork just quote from the Quran (62:5)?
October 30th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Lol Syed! I was just thinking that when I read his comment and see you beat me to it.
October 31st, 2010 at 3:30 am
@ KHUSHBOO :From the scent of a woman,I can tell the difference unless you are a poof.
@ Z.A Sher :The fact is little robbie boy is nothing more than a FAKE and every single book he has written about Islam a bullshit filled with lies,half truths and outright libel.Fortunately,Robert Spencer is better educated than your Holy Prophet,who had only graduated in :ANNUAL HUSBANDRY;Mr.Spencer has quoted your Quran and Hadiths accurately.If you find BULSHIT in his correctly quoted verses from the Quran,then you can not blame the messenger.The beauty always lies in the eyes of beholder.Please get the CATARACT of prejudice removed by a qualified surgeon like JESUS and then read his books.I do not think that you have read any of his books and condemning them like condemning SATANIC VERSES is foolish.
October 31st, 2010 at 4:43 am
Porky, do you and your god Rubbish Spinster know that we love Jesus too? Jesus was mentioned about 34 times in the Quran. Bet Spinster didn’t mention that since HE DIDN’T READ THE QURAN and doesn’t know WTH he’s talking about!
October 31st, 2010 at 4:46 am
CAPS LOCK 2 SHOW MY RAEG!!! Gotta love Halal Dork
October 31st, 2010 at 5:19 am
He’s ceased to be funny, now he just foams shite. Boring… give it a rest you silly little man, you’re scaring the children and making a fuss.
October 31st, 2010 at 5:43 am
@Khushboo :May,I correct you that ISSA mentioned 34 times in your Quran is not the same as the YESHUA in the New Testament.Mohammad,unfortunately,got his stories from the wrong sources and put them in the Quran.ISSA of Mohammad was never crucified,died on the Cross and arose from the dead the third day and taken up to Heaven and He is coming back to judge the world including your prophet who has misled people like you.You can not refute eye witness accounts as found in the Gospels in favour of the statements ambitious man who was illiterate and came about 600 years later.Try to find even one SIN committed by Jesus of Nazreth and the try to prove even one SIN not committed by Mohammed of Mecca.This is why,the followers of Jesus woship Him because He led a sinless life and is DIVINE.His name literally means SAVIOUR-Saviour of the lost world.You Muslims,just know of Him through wrong sources but really do not know JESUS.It is a personal spiritual relationship and not ROBOTIC EXERCISES five times a day called Sallat.
October 31st, 2010 at 6:04 am
I wasn’t sure how to contact site administrators, but I was wondering if you could write an article about the woman that wrote this article (link below) suggesting that allowing halal food will somehow benefit Al Qaeda rob “freedom” from Americans.
http://blogs.forbes.com/abigailesman/2010/10/21/is-whats-good-for-corporate-profits-good-for-al-qaeda/
This articel is among the biggest loads of bullshit I have ever read in my life. These stupid Islam-haters have the same old tactics: guilt-by-association, using one idiot as an example of the whole faith, suggesting that being Muslim is intrinsically tied to being a terrorist sympathizer.
October 31st, 2010 at 7:09 am
I agree, Nabeel. That woman has issues. She is a Class-A moron. She says that cosmetics are not allowed in Islam. Worst of all — she is a Spencer-lover. She quotes him in her article: “One concession to it will lead to another, and the demands will never cease until the full sharia is implemented, and that would destroy the equality of rights of women, the freedom of speech, and the freedom of conscience.”
What a fool.
October 31st, 2010 at 11:39 am
On the subject of cosmetics I think you will find may of the cosmetics in the middle ages in Europe were invented by muslims.
On the subject of Halal Pork he is just cosmetic , but not one of those hypoallergenic ones
October 31st, 2010 at 11:46 am
You’re boring Mr Pork, please shut up. Your barely comprehensible ‘writing’ (I call it writing for want of a better word) is so full of inaccuracies and shite that I can’t be bothered to put a response to you, I suspect everyone else feels the same. So take your junk, get a megaphone and stand on a street corner wearing a sandwichboard because you’re not convincing anyone here. Thanks and Peace Be Upon You.
Nabeel, there is a ‘Send us a Tip’ box at the top of the page. But yeah, that one is just mad, heck people read that stuff?
October 31st, 2010 at 11:56 am
I had a look at Abigailes web site . Very strange she writes about interior design and er….. terrorism from an anti Islam stand point .
Paraniod and Pastels anyone ?
October 31st, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Sorry, say that again, ‘interior design form a anti-Islam standpoint?’ What does she review? Guantanamo?
October 31st, 2010 at 12:50 pm
@Halal pork
“@Khushboo :May,I correct you that ISSA mentioned 34 times in your Quran is not the same as the YESHUA in the New Testament”.
You can’t be serious!! your fallacies are innumerable! If two people give different accounts of the same person, will future generations far removed from the situation be justified in concluding that the accounts are of two different individuals?
“Mohammad,unfortunately,got his stories from the wrong sources and put them in the Quran.”
Ah the Bible borrowing theory. You Islamophobes can’t seem to make up your mind as to whether Muhammad(saws)copied from the Bible, or from wrong sources(the Bible). lol
“ISSA of Mohammad was never crucified,died on the Cross and arose from the dead the third day and taken up to Heaven and He is coming back to judge the world including your prophet who has misled people like you.You can not refute eye witness accounts as found in the Gospels in favour of the statements ambitious man who was illiterate and came about 600 years later.”
Do you really think that anonymously written books whose information cannot be verified or corroboated in any other documents qualifies as eyewitness accounts? 12 disciples, 4 gospels, anonymously wriiten, two of which carry the names of non disciples? but alas we are not here to debate Christianity and compare it to Islam…or are you? Your are a very unqualified internet missionary indeed foe you are on the wrong site for that.
“Try to find even one SIN committed by Jesus of Nazreth and the try to prove even one SIN not committed by Mohammed of Mecca.”
You are making a false analogy here. Muslims don’t believe in the divinity of prophets, Muhammad or ‘Isa,(as), and don’t believe that a prophet has to be divine in order for his message to be true. Being sinless does not equal being divine. That is only the logical consequence of the false christian belief of original sin and how all humans are born sinners. Stop obfuscating and derailing and tell us what you think of “jewish” terrorists rallying at ground zero you loon.
Allahu A’lam
October 31st, 2010 at 1:05 pm
@ SIR.DAVID :Was HALAL SEX called PAEDOPHILLIA also invented by Muslims? Khomeni,the late leader of Iran had sx with a 4 year old girl of the family while he was living with in Iraq.Would you approve of that,if carried out with one of your little grand children?You seem to promote every thing Islamic.Mohammad prescribed URINE of CAMEL as medicine.Have you ever tried that for your cold?Is IGNORANCE NOT A BLISS FOR YOU, SIR?
October 31st, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Mr Pork, I notice you’ve missed out all of the points directed at you as per usual…
What is it about you and sex with small children? You’re the only one who brings it up, worrying don’t you think? I also notice that when you talk about it you appear to use more CAPS letters… hmmmm, interesting… excitement maybe? Pedophilia is prohibited by Islam and existed for a long time before it. Oh, and loads of people in your family were also ‘pedophiles’ due to us humans dieing out much younger in the old times, hence having sex when we were younger. But you know that already, you’re just being dense.
Oh, and do we have to do the urine thing again? Another one of your pet pleasures huh? Urine and sex with children… oh my… Anyway, as has been stated numerous times urea, a component of urine (hence the name), is regularly used as both a medicine and a cosmetic in the modern world, you’ve probably used it on yourself many times. But again, you know that already.
October 31st, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Imad Says:
October 27th, 2010 at 7:42 am
@ every reader and writer at Loonwatch
We should have a day where we go to jihadwatch and flood one of his new articles with links to scholars that condemn terrorism. It’s the perfect plan for IP adress takeover!
P.S. What’s an IP adress?
But seriously think about it, the readers for once will be unable to deny that scholars condemn terrorism, when all the evidence is loaded against them in one flood of articles. Post an article bout and see where it goes
October 31st, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Abijail Esman is just another run-of-the-mill judeofascist, and once collaborator of immigrant fraudster Ayaan Hirsi Magan on their hate “film” against Muslim women. Bet she doesn’t have much to say about the kosher tax scam.
November 1st, 2010 at 1:11 am
@Jack Cope,You say paedophillia is prohibited in Islam and existed for a long time before.If paedophillia was prohibited in Islam,then why did Mohammad practice it?Is it not true that it is still legally practiced in the Muslim countries and Muslim societies because it was SUNNA?
November 1st, 2010 at 2:45 am
yawn @halal dork . I for one cannot be bothered to rebut this foul carnard yet again . Anyone interested just use the search engine.
Next !
November 1st, 2010 at 3:11 am
I feel that way to Sir David, but hey I’m waiting for my food so nothing else to do, let’s do it Mr Pork…
1) Mohamed didn’t practice it in the same way that your ancestors didn’t practice it, he was doing something that was perfectly normal for the time, just as it was for your ancestors.
2) No, it’s not true that it is ‘legally’ practiced in any Muslim country, like the rest of the world Muslim countries tend to take a dim view on it. Yes, it happens but that means nothing, I mean let’s not mention all the pedophiles that the Catholic Church has been ‘finding’! Does that mean that Christianity and Christians and thus by extension Christian nations support pedophilia? No, of course not, but using your logic it does.
3) Don’t use words you don’t understand, no it’s not Sunna, end of discussion.
Awaiting the next barrage of junk as you ignore all of my points and go off on some random tangent…
November 1st, 2010 at 4:19 am
@ Jack Cope :I simply can not comrehend your logic.You mean to tell me that paedophillia was quite normal in Arab society at the time of Mohammad.Hence ,he also practiced it.Then,why do you revere him equal or above Allah?The Quran through out says:Obey Allah and Mohammad:That makes Mohammad equal to Alla.Is that not SHIRK?.God destroyed Sodom and Ghomora,because of the common practice of Sodomising but allowed Lot and hif family to escape.Paedophillia is a henious sin against children.Why did not Mohammad escape and leave that country to lead a righteous life? I feel sorry for you because you are the first victims of Islam and Mohammad of Arabia.May God open your spiritual eyes,while there is still time.Do you know,what happened to Sodom and Ghomora?Read the book of Geneis.
November 1st, 2010 at 4:31 am
Would it be an understatement to say that Halal Pork is an idiot?
November 1st, 2010 at 4:53 am
A major one.
“The Quran through out says:Obey Allah and Mohammad:That makes Mohammad equal to Alla.Is that not SHIRK?”
So you’re saying that strict monotheism means to obey God and disobey everybody else, even God’s messengers? To quote a certain Halal Pork: “I simply can not comrehend [sic] your logic.”
November 1st, 2010 at 6:11 am
An understatement indeed Cynic…
Yes, ‘pedophilia’ was ‘normal’ at that time because, as has been said time and time again, people died younger and therefore married younger. The average age at death for most of history has been about 35 years old, hence to marry and have kids at a young age was to be expected and it is what your ancestors have been doing for generations, it was not just in the ‘arab’ world, it was everywhere. For example in the UK the legal marriage age was 12 years old until just over 100 years ago (in France and parts of the US it still is). So do you want to condemn your own ancestors for ‘pedophilia’? No, that would be stupid because they were only doing what was ‘normal’, the same with Mohamed. Are we clear now? Logical enough for you? Because if it’s not then I think you have a comprehension issue…
I have no idea why you are bringing up Sodom and Ghomora, it isn’t relevant at all. I am aware of the story, I have read the Bible thanks, but again, relevance? And there have been no ‘victims’ of Mohamed or Islam thanks, you don’t have to feel sorry for us. We will be praying for you, or at least I will be.
Finally, The Sphinx makes a very good point you should address, if indeed you can, I expect you will ignore it.
Peace Be Upon You
November 1st, 2010 at 6:32 am
@ SPHINX;Unfortunately,there is no strict Montheism in Islam.At one stage,Mohammad permitted the worship of Al-Uzza,Al-Allat and Al-Mannat as well beside Allah but later blamed poor SATAN for whispering those verses to him.Sir.SALAMAN RUSHDI mentioned about that in his novel titled :THE SATANIC VERSES:Hence all those riots,the world over.That makes the divine Inspiration of Quran doubtful.If you appear in the court before a judge and admit that the one statement you made was based on a lie,your future evidence will be considered unreliable and you would be thrown out of the court.Secondly,Monotheism means nothing,if you worship only the one false god,who could not manifest itself through any evidence of miracles or prophecies which prove to be true.The pagans also worshipped one and only one god who were their rulers like Egypians,Greek or Roman gods which were not the God Almighty-God of Abraham,Issac and Jacob.Please follow the only truth,which could set you free from the bonds of ignorance,intolerance and insanity.
November 1st, 2010 at 8:19 am
You’re full of crap Mr Pork…
No, Mohamed never gave authorization to worship any other than God, where do you get that idea? Another hallucination again? Even prior to his revelations he disliked the polytheism.
You also put a lot of emphasis on the so called ‘satanic verses’, I find that rather weak. Is that the best you can come up with to ‘disprove’ the Qu’ran? Your comparison to a court of law is incorrect, a judge would not throw someone or their evidence out based on one statement (unless it’s one of your kangaroo courts), if they did then it would be impossible to prosecute anyone!
Next, you waffle on about Egyptians, pagans and whatnot, again a topic you seem to have a limited grasp on. None of those groups really accepted the idea of their being just one God. I’d go into more detail about this topic, examining it’s implications and so on but I feel it would be wasted on you since you’ll just ignore it.
You also speak of God not being God… erm, right… so you think that God doesn’t exist? What a confused fellow you are… I expect you are saying that only God in the Bible exists, let me give you some advice, ‘He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones’, i.e. your position that ‘God is the one in the Bible’ is just as fragile as you accusation that ‘God mentioned in the Qu’ran is not God’. Think about it.
You finally go on about ‘the only truth’ which, once again, is laughable. Not the ‘truth’ itself but the fact that you believe that after reading your junk that someone will even consider what you’re writing!
Peace Be Upon You
November 1st, 2010 at 9:26 am
Small sausage its spelt salat, not sallat.
November 1st, 2010 at 1:24 pm
HalalPork and JihadBob throw us off track when we should be discussing the double standard employed by media pundits who are selectively outraged by Muslim terrorists but not other terrorists.
November 1st, 2010 at 6:18 pm
“@ SPHINX;Unfortunately,there is no strict Montheism in Islam.”
Islam is defined by its monotheism. “No God but God” is Islam’s mantra. You will have Muslims disagree on just about anything you want, but there is one thing
And if you are claiming that Islam is not strictly monotheistic, why did you scream “SHIRK!! SHIRK!!!” just a while ago? You can either mock the strict monotheism of Islam or you can deny it exists. But only a confused idiot would do both simultaneously.
“At one stage,Mohammad permitted the worship of Al-Uzza,Al-Allat and Al-Mannat as well beside Allah but later blamed poor SATAN for whispering those verses to him.”
Garbage. And for somebody who constantly proselytizes for Christianity, you have quite some balls displaying sympathy for “poor Satan”.
“Secondly,Monotheism means nothing,if you worship only the one false god,who could not manifest itself through any evidence of miracles or prophecies which prove to be true.”
We worship the one God who created the heavens and the earth, who created mankind to worship him and build up this world, who sent Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed and all the others (PBUT) to mankind with a message, who created Jesus without a father and enabled him to speak in infancy, heal the sick and raise the dead, who gave Moses the power to part the sea and save his people, who delivered Noah the message of building the arc, who delivered the mighty Qur’an through the illiterate Mohammed, containing prophecies and verses that man could not have known at that time… The list goes on. What were you saying about miracles?
Your accusation of ‘worshiping a false god’ is bunk. Which is “the real God”? The one of the bible, the one who sent Jesus to save mankind? Well yeah, that’s the one we mean. So your point is…?
“The pagans also worshipped one and only one god”
Funny, you yourself mentioned three different coexisting pagan gods just a while ago.
“… who were their rulers like Egypians,Greek or Roman gods which were not the God Almighty-God of Abraham,Issac and Jacob.Please follow the only truth,which could set you free from the bonds of ignorance,intolerance and insanity.”
There were periods in Egyptian history where monotheism was prevalent – e.g. under Akhnaton’s rule. Sure, such gods were imagined and worshiped differently than how we do today. But let’s say, hypothetically, that some random Egyptian pharaoh commanded his people to worship one almighty God who created the universe and life, and cannot be grasped by human senses and is therefore to be taken as a somewhat abstract and omnipresent entity. What makes that any different from how we understand “our” God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?
Hence, to us there is a rudimentary definition of what God is, and anyone who worships one God (and none else) according to that definition, no matter how you want to call him, worships “the” God that you and I believe in, IMHO. So it makes absolutely no sense for you to accuse me of worshiping a false God, when we have a highly similar understanding of who he is and what he has done.
Or in other words: You’re an idiot.
November 1st, 2010 at 6:20 pm
@Justin,
you’re right and it’s quite a nuisance. However, it’s hard to let their stupid accusations and claims stand without a rebuttal, out of fear that somebody (most of all they themselves) think that they are true.
But fret not, them not sticking to the point only shows that they are incapable of addressing the main message of the post. What a surprise…