Robert Spencer likes to say, “Islamophobia? What Islamophobia?”
Here you go Bob,
Robbery or Hate Crime? Sacramento Cabbie Severely Beaten
(Fox40)
Ben Deci
Sacramento cab driver Harbhajan Singh is recovering from severe injuries he received at the hands of two men he drove into West Sacramento early this morning.
56-year-old Singh believes the men intended to kill him, but he was able to get away.
In a press release, West Sacramento Police say “two of the subjects began assaulting the victim and demanded money.” But Singh says that his money wasn’t what provoked the attack. He says it was his turban.
“After he gets the money,” Singh said of one of his attackers, “he’s still fighting. He says ‘I’ll kill you.’ I say, ‘I’m not Muslim. Please.’”
Singh has several stitches on his head and other parts of his body, bone chips in his nose, and bruising along his rib cage.
He says he picked-up the near fatal fare at Harlow’s in Midtown Sacramento Sunday morning. He says there were two men and two women. They first told him they were headed toward Broadway in Sacramento, but later had him drive into a dark West Sacramento neighborhood.
That’s when, according to Singh, the two men exploded into violence. One shouted expletives and called him Osama Bin Laden.
Singh wears a turban because he is Sikh.
“It’s part of the religion,” said Resham Singh, a coworker of Harbhajan’s. “So we don’t know how to show the community we are different people. We are nice people. We are not joined with bad people.”
During the violent beating, one of the female passengers put her body between Singh and his attackers.
“She was very nice. She said ‘why you fight him? You’ll go to jail.’ But he did not listen,” Harbhajan Singh said.
Still, Singh was able to use the distraction to get away.
“God help me, I put the car into drive from park… and raced away,” Singh said.
He wound-up in a West Sacramento apartment complex where, still bleeding and with one eye swollen shut, he banged on doors until he found someone to call 9-1-1.
Singh was taken to the hospital. His attackers, and the woman who defended him, disappeared.
November 30th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Aww I hope he recovers
November 30th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Bin Ladan is obviously deep under cover and working as a cabbie, that or he’s desperately low on funds… but let’s shove that aside because well done geniuses you found him! Oh wait…
And so typical of Fox to question, in it’s header, whether this is really a hate crime. Did the people make of with any money? I don’t see it reported so there we go Fox.
November 30th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
The worse thing is that from attacks like these the relations between the Sikh community and Muslims suffer badly. There are many Sikhs who hate Islam because of the discrimination they have suffered by people angry at Muslims. This is seen in Britain, where Sikhs are joining the EDL and one even tried to join the BNP! They don’t mind siding with organisations that want to kick them out of the country just to get back at Islam.
This is also proof that hatred of Islam is also racism because the people who do these things are looking for a specific type of person : brown, with a beard and preferably a turban. They’re too ignorant to check if you’re Mooslim or not, they just beat you cos you lok Mooslim.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Well Mosizzle, sadly, it seems that many people live by the phrase “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”. It’s a bit of a disappointment that the Sikh community, as opposed to speaking out against all racial violence just says “We’re not Muslim, don’t hurt us!” as opposed to “We’re not Muslim, don’t hurt us, and don’t hurt them!”.
Baby steps.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
@Mosizzle – Sikh dislike of Muslims stems from two other events; a) the execution of the 9th Sikh Guru by the Mughal emperor Aurangzeb and b) the partition of Punjab (which was primarily a Sikh homeland) between India and Pakistan. On the other hand, the Harmandar sahib (which is the holiest Sikh temple) is built on land endowed by Akbar (Aurangzebs great grandfather) to the Sikhs.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Those events happened long ago and while many Sikh extremists will still talk about those incidents, the majority of today’s Sikhs have forgiven and forgotten. These new incidents are testing the Sikhs’ patience and those that have gone over to the dark side will indeed mention those events when justifying their bigotry. A bit like how Hindus had no problem living with Muslims but once they found a reason to hate Muslims ( terror attacks in India), started talking about the Muslim invasion of India and how they built mosques over their temples.
Modern incidents are causing many people to take another look at history and emphasising what they see as Muslim injustices.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
This is seen in Britain, where Sikhs are joining the EDL and one even tried to join the BNP!
ROFLMAO!!
Aw, no. Sikhs are joining the EDL/BNP because of the prior experience Sikhs have had with Muslims from their mother countries.
Born in West Punjab in 1931, he witnessed the violence of Indian partition firsthand. Millions of Sikhs, Hindus and Muslims were killed during partition, his father among them, murdered when Singh was only 15. He lays the blame squarely with Muslims.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/feb/11/bnp-nonwhites-members-sikh-join
November 30th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Well, one Sikh, not terribly many in the plural… just like they have their token Rabbi as well.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Jihadbob – When will Robert Spencer stop spamming the comments section of loonwatch and man up to a real debate with Danios?
November 30th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
JihadBob said, “Sikhs are joining the EDL/BNP because of the prior experience Sikhs have had with Muslims from their mother countries.”
Really Jihadbob? India in 1931 was a British colony – not a Muslim country. Do you know that the birth place of the Sikh Guru Nanak is in Pakistan (a Muslim country) and is visited by thousands of Sikhs from around the world? From Wikipedia, “The provincial government has developed plans to develop Nankana Sahib with various projects including a rest house for Sikh pilgrims, a new hotel, a shopping mall, a housing scheme, a modern hospital and a roadlink to the Lahore and Faisalabad dual-Carriage way.”
Did you know many of the original Sikhs were Muslims themselves? Or that the Sikh holy book, the Guru Granth Sahib includes hundreds of verses from the Holy Quran?
Let me ask you again – when will Robert Spencer man up to a debate with Danios?
November 30th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
I don’t get it Bob. What’s so funny about a Sikh joining one of the hate organizations you love so much?
November 30th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Definitely href=”http://sikhchic.com/people/sikhamerican_helps_combat_islamophobia”>not all Sikhs support such action, and I support those who stand out against bigotry and hate, working to build bridges with other faith and ethnic-based communities.
November 30th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Oops, i’ll try again:
Definitely not all Sikhs support such action, and I support those who stand out against bigotry and hate, working to build bridges with other faith and ethnic-based communities.
November 30th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Regardless, it is ridiculous to claim that Sikhs hate Muslims because they face ‘discrimination’ in the West for being associated with Muslims.
Aw, yeah, right.
November 30th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Why the apostrophes around “discrimination” Bob? You don’t think minorities face discrimination in the West? Or are you one of those Stormfront fans who thinks it’s actually thinks it’s the other way around?
Personally, I wouldn’t be surprised If you actually were.
November 30th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
You know what is truly ridiculous? your existence.. I feel bad for you. Have you found yourself a lover yet, so you can take your mind of off demonizing moozlems for aminute?
November 30th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Jihadbob said, “… it is ridiculous to claim that Sikhs hate Muslims… ”
I agree with that. Sikhs do not hate Muslims – they just wish that the loons were intelligent enough to know the difference between the two …
November 30th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
“Regardless, it is ridiculous to claim that Sikhs hate Muslims because they face ‘discrimination’ in the West for being associated with Muslims.”
It is obvious that Sikhs resent having to go through that discrimination (by the way this discrimination is in modern, civilised, secular America). When they are discriminated for the capital crime of “looking Mooslim”, they are naturally going to have trouble liking Muslims.
The partition of India is a crap example for anyone. Everyone knows that all sides committed atrocities during the partition — Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims. There was one incident when Muslim emigrants had to board a train in which all of the travellers had been murdered by a Sikh mob. I’m sure that somewhere else, Sikh emigrants faced the same sort of attack by a Muslim mob. It was a hectic time and I personally blame the British Empire’s lack of control. You’d think that if Britain came with such a huge army that they might have waited a few months to oversee the Partition before they left.
Oh and it Seems like BNP is capitalising on tense Sikh-Muslim relations. Typical Nazis.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8670849.stm
November 30th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Aw, no. Sikhs are joining the EDL/BNP because of the prior experience Sikhs have had with Muslims from their mother countries.
Born in West Punjab in 1931, he witnessed the violence of Indian partition firsthand. Millions of Sikhs, Hindus and Muslims were killed during partition, his father among them, murdered when Singh was only 15. He lays the blame squarely with Muslims.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/feb/11/bnp-nonwhites-members-sikh-join
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My grandfather who was there at that time of the partition and not quoting Guardian news paper Jihad Bob also told me story of Hindu and Sikhs were going around robbing murdering and grabbing muslim women and gang raping them in front of his eyes ….He did not blame Hindu and Sikhs and even employee many of them later on,,,,,
November 30th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
EDL attacking Big John’s in Leicester
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxdTEVzzr_s
EDL shouting racist chants like “”Burn a Mosque”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5dpcH2GNq0
EDL organiser Jeff Marsh first told the Nazis from the EDL Swansea Division that they’d be ejected if they attend any future EDL protests, now he has told them they’ll be welcomed back… as long as they don’t show their true colours by making any more Nazi salutes.
Here are some photos from Jeff Marsh’s Casuals United website, which show the EDL supporters he’s happy to welcome back – giving Nazi salutes, burning Anti-Nazi symbols, and getting drunk and showing off their Combat 18 and other Nazi tattoos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-YRwri8S6E&feature=related
BUT NO EDL IS NOT RACIEST Jihad Bob can you point your self out one of the many nazi salute
November 30th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Its funny seeing jihadbob aka robert spencerstein talking about sikh when they know nothing but sh*t. Muslim history in india isnt black and white. Even today muslims in India outnumber the number of muslims in the middle east. Muslims in the indian subcontinent have a completely different culture just like a black christian from africa has difference to a black christian in the USA. SO before you right wing imbeciles speak try to read some history of that region, try watching some of their movies, try visiting those lands.
November 30th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Son only one sikh attends the EDL marches, he is their publicity officer and he no longer speaks at events because when he last did those ultra intelligent EDL supporters start swearing and jeering him, The Sikh council of the UK have condemned him and regard him no longer as part of their community, next time you lie I will make you eat all your greens!
November 30th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Its funny seeing jihadbob aka robert spencerstein
Nice thinly veiled Antisemitic comment.
November 30th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Spencerstein … LOL. No wonder Jihadbob doesn’t get it. He is way too busy reading Islamophobic junk to know Mary Shelley’s work from a antisemetic canard…
Just to make it clearer for you Jihadbob … have you ever heard of Frankenstein?
November 30th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Next thing you know LW will be accused of calling Spencer a semite! Shock horror! :O
November 30th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
I think it was blatantly obvious that he was referring to Frankenstein. Do have yourself checked out at the doctor’s…
November 30th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
“No wonder Jihadbob doesn’t get it. He is way too busy reading Islamophobic junk to know Mary Shelley’s work from a antisemetic canard”
Pretty sad and pathetic, isn’t it? From all those posts making all these relevant points, he chose to ignore them and focus his pseudo-intellectual energy on the comment he perceived as anti-semitic when there isn’t even a discussion on Jews or Israel. But this is how our resident loon operates. Ignore most of the facts, pick several points he believes he has superior knowledge, gets crushed on those points, evade, go to burger king, repeat…..
November 30th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Speaking of Frankenstein (which I recently read for AP English), the novel’s only character who is portrayed entirely negatively is a Muslim. Heck, even the Monster is more humane (not kidding). Just so you know, a noble Christian rescues the Turk’s daughter from his dirty Muhammedan clutches.
November 30th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
It’s funny how desperate Bobby is to bash Loonwatch. He seems to be getting frustrated.
On aside note…
Keep up the good work Loonwatch! A frustrated and desperate Bob is a sign of your guys’ effectiveness.
November 30th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Nassir, I recommend checking out Reel Bad Arabs if you haven’t already read/seen it. It’s very interesting. And I hope you did well on your AP!
November 30th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Dawood: I’ve heard about “Reel Bad Arabs”, although I haven’t seen it yet. And AP final exams are near the end of the school year, at least in the United States (I hope I do well!!!).
November 30th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
I’m sure you’ll do fantastic – some of Reel Bad Arabs is on Youtube or Google Video as a documentary, but the actual text goes much deeper. It’s definitely worth a look if you can borrow it from school etc. All the best!
November 30th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Apart from the macho heritage of British young males of Punjabi heritage, both Muslims & Sikhs get on quite swimmingly, especially at universities. From my experience, most Sikhs, even those in street gangs, laugh at twisted nuts that would even join with the devil to attack Muslims. The BNP & the street yobs of the EDL are just a current version of the 1970s NF. Their fathers know this type all too well & wouldn’t touch them with a bargepole.
December 1st, 2010 at 12:37 am
What difference does it make if it really was a reference to Mary Shelly’s work. Everyone known she was a dhimmi, in cahoots with all the leftist intellectuals of her time and that her character frankestein was nothing but a manifestation of her subconscious desire to allow coloured people (esp Muslims) to take over the world.
December 1st, 2010 at 12:37 am
(giggle) (giggle)…..:D
December 1st, 2010 at 10:31 am
I think it’s time we also include Hindus and Sikhs in our interfaith groups as well, not just Christians and Jews.
December 1st, 2010 at 11:02 am
Robert Spencer that spencer stein remark was comparing you to Frankenstein you fucking fascist idiot. Let me say that fascists like you are why I own a gun. Ready to defend America from the traitors within who want to turn it fascist.
December 1st, 2010 at 12:28 pm
@TRUE AMERICAN – Bigotry cannot be defeated by bigotry. I don’t think JihadBob is an idiot or even a fascist. I think he is a devils advocate who makes us think about uncomfortable things (albeit in an odious slithery and repetitious fashion). He is useful as he makes us look at things and reevaluate them from an opposing perspective. I learned many new things from the responses others have made to his bigoted comments on this board.
So please keep your gun holstered or better yet may you always shoot blanks.
December 1st, 2010 at 1:40 pm
No Robert Spencer is a fascist. He and his ilk know exactly with who interested in his message and for what purposes they will use it for.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Geehad Bobby’s desperation is pathetic, citing one non-practicing Sikh EDL member as “proof” of how Sikhs are up in arms against Muslims, while ignoring the very real nature of the hate crime committed against this cab driver. I have yet to meet a Sikh who has any affinity for neo-Nazi street thugs.
Anybody who knows Sikhs in person knows what a jolly bunch they are. The funniest guy I knew in med school was Sikh, and he had us in splits every time. and that’s when he was sober. Good times.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:40 pm
while ignoring the very real nature of the hate crime committed against this cab driver. I have yet to meet a Sikh who has any affinity for neo-Nazi street thugs.
Unless there’s an update to this story somewhere, I must have missed where this attack has been confirmed as a hate crime by the authorities.
But hey, I was thinking that the other member who claimed that Sikhs hate Muslims because they’re ‘discriminated’ against in the West reeked of desperation.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Jihadwatch’s Bob, I notice you have a penchant for failing to quote other members’ comments in full or in context—no doubt you can never sufficiently respond to any point purported against you. And oops, it looks like you did it again.
Desperate indeed.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:52 pm
You nailed it, NassirH. The only reason Geehad bobby is probably allowed to post to demonstrate how utterly retarded, intellectually dishonest and slanderous Islamophobes are.
He may have a future with the Hasbara brigade. Affirmative action for shabbos goyim, you know.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:04 am
Geehad bob, I meant that a few Sikhs hold bitter feelings towards some Muslims because they partly blame Muslims for the discrimination they face. Discrimination, may I add, that is inflicted upon them by ‘civilised’ Westerners.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:17 am
I was hoping that Sikhs would understand how wrong it is to be discriminated against but all they can say is “we’re not the bad guys”?? How about “stop the hate crime!”
disclaimer: just something I noticed from a few Sikhs, not all.
December 2nd, 2010 at 2:24 pm
The best way to end hatred is for Muslims to not hate their host countries.
December 2nd, 2010 at 3:26 pm
I think I’ll bask in the irony of the above comment.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:49 pm
“The best way to end hatred is for Muslims to not hate their host countries.”
So you’re saying that Sikhs and Muslims must wear flags 24/7 to prevent Islamophobic attacks. Perhaps, when Muslims and Sikhs wear flags events like these will not happen. So let’s go people, fly those flags!
“One of the ways that Sikhs try to promote their love of the United States and send people a clear message is by showing their patriotism. According to Sara Sanders, older Sikh men that dress traditionally, often put flags on their bikes, vehicles, and in the yards of their homes. These acts are done more for protection than for any other reason. When people see the flag, some of their fears and hatred disappear.”
http://www.sikhspectrum.com/112006/denise.htm
Even that doesn’t work as this latest attack shows…
What now JB?
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:54 pm
So you’re saying that Sikhs and Muslims must wear flags 24/7 to prevent Islamophobic attacks.
I don’t know, is there growing friction between Sikh immigrant communities and the Western nations they move to?
If so, it probably has something to with Sikh rallies like this….
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:02 pm
“I don’t know, is there growing friction between Sikh immigrant communities and the Western nations they move to?”
You just posted that comment on an article about a Sikh cabbie being severely beaten by “civilised” Westerners. How stupid are you?
And it has nothing to do with that rally. It’s just because “looking Mooslim” is now a capital crime in the USA.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Ironically, Bob openly supports protesters just as virulent (and more violent) than those in the so-called “Muslims Against Crusades” video he linked to.
Anyways, it looks like I need to pull out my shades again and bask in the irony Bob is continously providing us.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Anjem Choudary bob really that is your argument comeon we all here have talked about him here at loonwatch
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:27 pm
“If so, it probably has something to with Sikh rallies like this….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8u4bau3WnU”
As a Christian for the Crusades, I see how this can upset you.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:58 am
Haha, Choudary! Do you know how hated that guy is by British Muslims? As in to the extent that he is effectively an outcast along with his followers? Oh, and the fact he can only pull about 50 people for his ‘rallies’, the papers have a hard time trying to make his playground gang look big, which is why you rarely see a wide angle shot of any of his ‘protests’. I saw a wide angle of the infamous Wootton Bassett ‘protest’ he did, it looked truly pathetic, about 15 of them penned into a tiny enclosure surrounded by police for their safety. But looking at the coverage, you’d never know that.
NOTE: anyone see this in the Sun? I was surprised, they actually found some o us normal Muslims to speak! http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3225726/The-Sun-finds-poppy-thugs.html
December 3rd, 2010 at 2:51 am
I once saw a film of one of choudary’s meetings in east, London he called for a rejection of the British state. A voice from the back of the room called out “I bet you dont reject a giro?” Classic
(for our none british readers readers a giro is a welfare check)
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:43 am
You just posted that comment on an article about a Sikh cabbie being severely beaten by “civilised” Westerners. How stupid are you?
We don’t know the reason why the cabbie was attacked, but it probably wasn’t because he was Sikh.
Haha, Choudary! Do you know how hated that guy is by British Muslims?
No, I don’t know.
But the 40% of Brit Muslims who want Islamic law imposed probably hate him the most, amirite?
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:33 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1161909/Swilling-beer-smoking-dope-leering-porn-hate-preacher-Andy-Choudary.html
JihadBob. You Moron. Spencer and other Islamophobes like to say that Anjem Choudary is the only honest Muslim in Great Britain and that he is a representative of all Muslims. Ha!
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:40 am
http://www.mcb.org.uk/article_detail.php?article=announcement-853
The UK’s largest Muslim organisation condemned Anjem Choudary. This makes your claim that 40% of Muslims in the UK support him seem silly.
Also, on Youtube there is a wide variety of videos depicting “Andy” getting owned by other Muslims who prove that he is just full of lies.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:58 am
BOOB
most muslims I have met would like to have the same rights as the catholic church or the Jewish beth din in the UK. As one friend put it to me we left Pakistan behind with the other stuff.
So are you against the Beth Din or the catholic church too then ?
Or is it because they a
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:59 am
are Muslims ?
Does hate have a logic ?
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Ghad a Boob. Urrgh do you hate all non-Christians?
Think about this. When I was young, I had a lovely gentleman of a Maths teacher. His favourite easy listening was the hymn “Onward Christian soldiers”. The world is not the black & white of Virtual Reality Faux News. Get out in the real world & meet different people & travel broadens the mind. Go to Morocco, Turkey, Bosnia or Malaysia & see the stereotypes jar with reality.
December 4th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
A real example of Sikho-phobia:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20101204/wl_time/08599203251400
*crickets*
December 4th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
“We don’t know the reason why the cabbie was attacked, but it probably wasn’t because he was Sikh.”
If it wasn’t because he was Sikh, what was the reason bob? Hint: because he LOOKED Moo___m.
“A real example of Sikho-phobia:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20101204/wl_time/08599203251400
*crickets*”
LOL @ our resident loon bob, who either thinks this article is about “sikhophobia” or that attacks on Sikhs by Taliban Muslims in Pakistan somehow negates the existence of Islamophobia.
Hint 2: Attacking somebody because they LOOK Muslim, IS Islamophobia.
To expand on another Loonwatcher’s very keen observation, since ‘Isa(as) wasn’t the white, blond-haired, blue-eyed, Western European-looking Middle Easterner artists portray him as, what are the odds that a returning ‘Isa(as)would be randomly searched at an airport or attacked by some Islamophobe for looking too Mooslim.
i’m sure deluded Christians the world over would be like “that can’t be Jesus,he looks like a Mooslim, must be the antichrist”
Disclaimer: Since Islamophobes are so fond of disclaimers, i will post my own disclaimer here and say that not all Christians are deluded. And by deluded here we mean, Islamophobic enough to reject ‘Isa(as)simply because he looks Mooslim. Also, this is an anectdotal story, by no means does this Muslim endorse Christian eschatological views. Thank you.
Allahu A’lam
December 4th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Excellent logic Bob. The Taliban are bad, thus you and your fellow Islamophobes (who sometimes attack Sikhs out of stupidity) are not bigoted.
/sarc
December 4th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Ha! Weak attempt to take the conversation away from how modern, civilised, secular, democratic Americans attack Sikhs.
What kind of Sikh-Phobia is that? Taliban, who kill everyone who doesn’t agree with them, even Muslims! So the story was this, Taliban kick them out of their village, they find refuge in another part of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Army fights against the Taliban, flush them out, and tell them they can move back if they want. They find that their home has been destroyed so take refuge again in Peshawar.
Important questions for you JB: They have been living there happily for a looong time, no Jihad-Krazy Muslim has tried to kill them or force them out until the Taliban — they have been living in a Muslim majority country even though they could easily move to neighbouring India, birthplace of Sikhism. That means they have found the treatment they have felt in Pakistan to be adequate to justify the decision to stay until the advent of the Taliban, who, may I add, were funded by the masters of religious freedom, the United States.
Secondly, they had access to a Gurdwara and, as a quick Google search will show you, some pretty nice looking Gurdwaras in Pakistan. That destroys the argument that Muslims don’t allow others to build non-Muslim places of worship or allow them to maintain them or that Muslims build Mosques on top of them. That Gurdwara is fully operational. They have the religious freedom to worship and build Gurdwaras if they need to. Ask the Muslims of New York about the 2 block no Mosque zone near Ground Zero. Or as the mosque protests in Tennessee show, the nationwide No-Mosque zone.
“The Shi’ites let us into their community because Sikhs aren’t involved in terrorism,” Darsha says. “Our grandfathers lived here. They know us. We have lived together for generations.”
See? Sikhs and Shias living together for generations. Not once did the Shias, who have full belief in the Quran, decide to wage Jihad against them, or forcefully convert them or force them to pay the Jizya. According to you and Spencer, that makes the Shia bad Muslims and if they want to become good Muslims they have to kill those Sikhs straight away. And I know you’re right because you are of course the Grand Mufti of Al-Azhar, A Hafiz of the Quran and a respected authority on Islamic Law.(!)
Thirdly, the Army is currently fighting against the Taliban. These are locked and loaded Muslims engaged in daily fighting, many army men are known to be religious, did it not once occur to them to kill Sikhs because you, O Sheikh JihadBob, consider it to be mandatory to kill all Non-Muslims until they submit. Instead, they provided 12 jeeps of army men to protect them as they made their way back to their village.
And yes I have heard about the Taliban’s bad treatment of the Sikhs who have until now enjoyed living in Pakistan and not felt the need to move to nearby India since 1947. But it’s easier for you to highlight how they are being mistreated by a handful of extremists rather than how they are being well-treated by society as a whole.
http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/First_Sikh_officer_in_Pakistan_Army
“It is my great ambition to be a martyr while defending the mother-land”.
Think about it: Why would a young Harcharan Singh join the Pakistani Army, claim he is proud to be a Pakistani, refer to it as the “mother-land” and even be ready to die for it, if such a country, as a whole, was discriminating against him.
Loon Fail.
December 4th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Sheehs, bob, I thought you’d have learned by now, lesson one in debating:
“Never link to something that negates your points”
You’ve managed to do that a lot of times…
And remember this bob, we aren’t your fawning jihadwatchers here, you can’t just post something and expect us to take it at face value. You’re going to have to try harder.
December 5th, 2010 at 10:12 am
We don’t know the reason why the cabbie was attacked, yet.
But we do know why Sikhs are attacked in Pakistan: Sikhophobia
December 5th, 2010 at 10:40 am
What the devil does Sikhs being attacked in Pakistan have anything to do with islamophobes being too stupid to tell the difference between Sikhs and Muslims? Two completely unrelated and in themselves unjustifiable points.
Failed attempt, as always.
December 5th, 2010 at 11:03 am
“We don’t know the reason why the cabbie was attacked, yet.”
Are you ready Bob?
“One shouted expletives and called him Osama Bin Laden.”
“After he gets the money,” Singh said of one of his attackers, “he’s still fighting. He says ‘I’ll kill you.’ I say, ‘I’m not Muslim. Please.’”
See, Jihadbob, they attacked him because they thought he was Mooslim and of course, as Spencer and co say, most Mooslims are terrorists.
And it seems that the local authorities have confirmed it was indeed a hate crime.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40481658/ns/local_news-sacramento_ca/
“West Sacramento police are teaming up with the FBI to investigate an attack against a Sikh taxi driver that authorities have labeled a hate crime.”
Now you look like an idiot, but you should be used to it by now.
And the persecution of Sikhs isn’t just because of Sikh-Phobia but because the Taliban dislike anyone who isn’t in their idea of Islam. Many Muslims come under that category, hence why most of the Talibans victims in Pakistan are Muslims. Hey, America kills plenty of Muslims too. Perhaps you guys can get together and work something out? Oh wait you already did: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone
December 5th, 2010 at 11:04 am
“We don’t know the reason why the cabbie was attacked, yet.”
Are you ready Bob?
“One shouted expletives and called him Osama Bin Laden.”
“After he gets the money,” Singh said of one of his attackers, “he’s still fighting. He says ‘I’ll kill you.’ I say, ‘I’m not Muslim. Please.’”
See, Jihadbob, they attacked him because they thought he was Mooslim and of course, as Spencer and co say, most Mooslims are terrorists.
And it seems that the local authorities have confirmed it was indeed a hate crime.
“West Sacramento police are teaming up with the FBI to investigate an attack against a Sikh taxi driver that authorities have labeled a hate crime.”
Now you look like an idiot, but you should be used to it by now.
And the persecution of Sikhs isn’t just because of Sikh-Phobia but because the Taliban dislike anyone who isn’t in their idea of Islam. Many Muslims come under that category, hence why most of the Talibans victims in Pakistan are Muslims. Hey, America kills plenty of Muslims too. Perhaps you guys can get together and work something out? Oh wait you already did: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone
December 5th, 2010 at 11:05 am
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40481658/ns/local_news-sacramento_ca/
Here’s the news site that confirms that the attack was a hate crime.
December 5th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Looks like your own article shows that it was a simple case of robbery.
Robbers name call too.
Duh.
December 5th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
@ jihad bob,
“Brutalizing any innocent individual is wrong, but to do so because of someone’s actual or perceived racial, ethnic, sexual, or religious membership is particularly heinous,” Yamada said in a statement. “These difficult times require that all community members remain vigilant and report any suspected bias-motivated crime to area law enforcement.”
“West Sacramento police are teaming up with the FBI to investigate an attack against a Sikh taxi driver that authorities have labeled a hate crime.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40481658/ns/local_news-sacramento_ca/
quotes from the article “proving” it was a simple case of robbery lol
It is much harder to admit someone is right than to admit someone is wrong
Allahu A’lam
“Ramirez has a $150,000 felony warrant for his arrest on charges of felony assault with a deadly weapon and commission of a hate crime. “
December 5th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
I see Bob’s still on his herp-derp-athon and still trying to deny the obvious existence of Islamophobia. He’s almost as smart as the Islamophobes who attacked the Sikh. Almost.
December 6th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
“Looks like your own article shows that it was a simple case of robbery.
Robbers name call too.
Duh.”
LOL. What part of hate crime don’t you understand. They did it because they thought he “looked Mooslim”. If this was a Muslim who robbed a shop-owner who happened to be a Jew, you would go berserk if we suggested it was a simple robbery. This taxi driver didn’t happen to be a Sikh, he was specifically targeted because the attackers thought he was “Mooslim”. Even the victim himself thought that he was being attacked because they thought he was “Mooslim” hence why he screamed “I am not Muslim”, indicating that this sort of thing happens quite often or is expected.
You’re basically saying that a hate crime in America is simply robbery, but a hate crime in the Muslim world is violent jihad as commanded by the Quran.
““West Sacramento police are teaming up with the FBI to investigate an attack against a Sikh taxi driver that authorities have labeled a hate crime.””