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French Far-right Star Compares Praying Muslims to Nazis

European Loonieness keeps marching on. Instead of focusing on combating the anti-Muslim sentiment raging in France they French elite chose to focus on the 500 women who wear Niqab. Go figure!

French far-right star compares praying Muslims to Nazi occupiers

(Reuters)

Marine Le Pen has put paid to the idea she would put a softer face on France’s National Front for elections in 2012 with anti-Muslim comments that have aroused a storm of criticism. Le Pen, the likely next far-right challenger for the French presidency, compared overflowing mosques in France with the Nazi occupation — remarks indicative of a drift to the right in parts of Europe that could let the National Front eat into support for the ruling conservative UMP party in 2012.

Le Pen, the frontrunner to succeed her father Jean-Marie Le Pen as head of the party, made the comments on a television show last Thursday with about 3.4 million viewers watching. On Monday she dismissed any suggestion of a gaffe. “My comments were absolutely not a blunder, but a completely thought-out analysis,” she told a news conference, adding she was merely saying out loud what everyone thought privately.

le pen 1Given support of 12 to 14 percent in recent opinion polls, Marine Le Pen is regarded as more electable than her father, who was convicted in 1990 for inciting racial hatred. But her remarks suggest that far from moderating the party line, she will go all out to outgun conservative President Nicolas Sarkozy to secure the slice of the French electorate that opposes high immigration.

(Photo: Marine Le Pen at National Front headquarters in Nanterre near Paris December 13, 2010/Jacky Naegelen)

“The National Front has changed: it’s more dangerous than before,” said an editorial in the left-leaning Liberation daily after mainstream politicians and Muslim leaders slammed Le Pen’s comments. “Given a lick of paint by Marine, xenophobia is back in the spotlight.”

On Thursday, she told a party meeting that after a steady rise in the number of Islamic veils and burqas worn in France, home to five million Muslims, the crowds praying outside mosques were akin to an occupation.

Her remarks chime with a growing right-wing mood among voters in Europe, where far-right parties are taking up worries that high immigration facilitates Islamic fundamentalist terror cells and makes tight labour markets even tighter. Since France banned burqas, which cloak a woman’s face and body, calls for bans have been heard elsewhere in Europe, most loudly in the Netherlands where populist politician Geert Wilders wants to tighten rules on immigration and ban the Koran.

occupationIn France the National Front scored a strong result in regional elections in early 2010, even after Sarkozy offered tough solutions of his own on immigration and crime. The party is enjoying a revival reminiscent of Jean-Marie Le Pen’s surprise showing in the 2002 presidential election when he got through to the second round before losing to conservative Jacques Chirac.

(Photo: German troops march past the Arc de Triomphe in Paris, 14 June 1940/German Federal Archive)

Marine Le Pen’s remarks on Muslims provoked angry comment. Several UMP politicians spoke out against them, and government spokesman Francois Baroin called them “one more provocation”. Veteran socialist Laurent Fabius called them shameful and France’s anti-racist group MRAP filed a lawsuit against Marine Le Pen for incitement to racial hatred.

“These remarks constitute a serious attack on the dignity of Muslims in France and are synonymous with an incitement to hate and violence,” France’s Muslim Council (CFCM) said in a statement. CRIF, the umbrella group of French Jewish organisations, also protested: “The Crif is outraged by the comments of Marine Le Pen comparing prayers in the street to the Occupation, which were made only to stigmatise the Muslim community. These remarks amount to a double and dishonest manipulation of history and language.”

le pen 1Analysts view Le Pen as much closer to Wilders than far-right leaders of her father’s generation, but note that to keep her party faithful from drifting towards the UMP she needs to cling more than ever to hardline principles. “Le Pen has realised the limits of de-demonising the National Front — it works on the outside but less so with her militants,” analyst Sylvain Crepon told Liberation.

(Photo: Jean-Marie Le Pen with a campaign poster that reads “No to Islamism. Youth with Le Pen” and shows a map of France covered by an Algerian flag and minarets, March 7, 2010/Jean-Paul Pelissier)

Analyst Dominique Reynie said that by reinforcing her base, Le Pen would bite into Sarkozy’s first and second-round scores if he seeks reelection in 2012. “If the National Front gets a high score, that means it has taken votes from the left. Those may not necessarily go to the candidate on the right afterwards,” he wrote in a column.

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  • 3 Little Words

    The question is which side do they support in WW2, Free France or pro-Nazi Vichy?

    How does this fit in with the anti-Nazi Muslim armies who fought on behalf of the French Empire?

    “Praying Muslims Nazis?”

  • http://thebandofstrangers.blogspot.com/ Jack Cope

    I apologize for the dodgy formatting, I simply copy and pasted it from the link above. I recommend you read it, as the section says:

    - the correlation between the number of attacks and what was happening in Gaza at the time is obvious

    - most of the attackers had no particular ideology and were known trouble makers spurred on by images of what was happening in Gaza

    - Muslim groups and leaders condemned the attacks and met with Jewish leaders to discuss the problem

    It was also interesting to note that prior to the upsurge of attacks later in the year, most of the previous attacks were more far right wing in nature (e.g. painting yellow Stars of David on shop windows). Coupled to this, the upsurge of attacks were unprecedented. Thus with these two facts, we can deduce that:

    - normally there are not many anti-Semitic attacks in France

    - when they do happen they are mostly carried out by the right wing

    - the upsurge of attacks later in the year was an anomaly due what was happening in Gaza

    This is all further evidence for the recent Pape report regarding the causes of suicide terrorism. Much as bob would want you to think otherwise, the fact remains that, as human beings, Muslims live normal lives unless pushed, just like everyone else. I call it my ‘throw shite at people and expect them to throw it back’ theory…

    Please note, I am not making excuses for the attackers here, just pointing out the fallacy of trying to paint this, as bob does, as ‘business as usual for Muslims’ and that ‘Muslims are bastards who attack Jews’. I agree with Lallaoui, who says:

    “We have been fighting for years against racism (…). We hear unacceptable things said in certain associations. The emotion stirred by certain pictures does not justify any of the violence. We have to say things as they are. Clearly these acts of violence are a tiny minority, but if we activists stay silent, that is a message we send to themost organised groups, who will understand that they can go ahead. I do not want to hear “Death to the Jews’ chanted every time there is a demo. And even if things calm down, we are obliged to tackle this issue. We should be careful not to let a trend set in. A certain form of intellectual reasoning consists in not facing matters head on. During the Gulf War, we did not see such excesses. We had succeeded in channelling the anger. We need to do that again now …”

  • http://thebandofstrangers.blogspot.com/ Jack Cope

    Do you ever read what you post bob? From your link:

    “7) Profile of the perpetrators

    A detailed report on these attacks – an extract of which was published in the weekly Marianne (17 – 23
    September 2001) – was prepared at the Interior Ministry. It is based on the questioning of 42 suspects
    interviewed by the police. It specifies their profile: “Most are individuals largely involved in delinquency and
    claiming adherence to no particular ideology. They nevertheless seem driven by a fairly general feeling of
    hostility towards Israel, exacerbated by the exaggerated media coverage of the clashes in the Middle East. This
    facilitates their identification with a conflict which, from their viewpoint, reflects the patterns of exclusion and
    failure of which they themselves feel victim in France.”
    As the second Intifada is also a war of images and symbols, the force of the images has its effect. It is the
    images that impress on people’s minds and demonise. It is with these images – and the reality they portray,
    imbued with violence – which the young identify with.
    The analysis carried out by sociologist Laacher at a school of advanced social science studies of the profile of the
    youngsters having carried out such acts deserves to be underlined: it is the force of the images seen on TV that
    has pushed those most inclined to delinquency. For many observers, the impact of TV pictures is the main
    explanation for the escalation into violence. For Lallaoui, a community leader, these young people see very
    violent clashes on TV. They feel a sense of solidarity and, in empathy, attack Jewish symbols for lack of Israeli
    targets. The impact of the pictures is also the explanation given by Muslim youth leaders like Ali Rahmi, who
    runs a ‘meet and discuss’ group at Roubaix. He firmly condemns these “unpardonable” acts.
    Lallaoui, a film director active in suburban movements for over twenty years, does not split hairs. “We have
    been fighting for years against racism (…). We hear unacceptable things said in certain associations. The
    emotion stirred by certain pictures does not justify any of the violence. We have to say things as they are.
    Clearly these acts of violence are a tiny minority, but if we activists stay silent, that is a message we send to the
    most organised groups, who will understand that they can go ahead. I do not want to hear “Death to the Jews’
    chanted every time there is a demo. And even if things calm down, we are obliged to tackle this issue. We
    should be careful not to let a trend set in. A certain form of intellectual reasoning consists in not facing matters
    head on. During the Gulf War, we did not see such excesses. We had succeeded in channelling the anger. We
    need to do that again now …”.
    In a recent interview (December 2001), the French political commentator Mayer argues that there is within a
    disadvantaged population of Magreb immigrants a feeling of resent ment towards society and towards the Jews,
    who are perceived, rightly or wrongly, as faring better than the Arabs in France. There is on the part of these
    youngsters a knee-jerk reaction of solidarity prompted by the TV pictures and an identification with what is
    happening in the Middle East.”

    Yep, guess what people…

  • http://www.inquisitor.com/NYDiary/ Daniel Ibn Zayd

    And the only thing worse than the French Right is the French Left:

    http://www.sa.org.au/international/3028-the-new-anti-capitalist-party-and-islamophobia

  • mindy1

    @Adam :LOL: but seriously, we have the same roots

  • LaRoja

    All these loons compare people to Nazis when they are like the Nazis in thinking and speech themselves.

    I am a liberal and do not like these crazy “freedom protector” right-winger extremists.

  • Adam

    If someone can do it, try to spread the video i just posted.

    WE are more in common with other religions than different.

  • Adam

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aHWASyMjwg

    THAT MEANS JEWS ALSO ACT LIKE NAZIS!!! SOME OF THEM PRAY LIKE THOSE DIRTY MOSLEMS!!!!!

  • antiislamophobe

    Nothing new here. France has always had a minority to pick on from the peasants of the 1700s to the Muslims of the 21st century. That country just can never seem to swallow its pride.

  • Abdullah

    Wow I used to live in Cincinnati and used to attend Clifton mosque all the time.

    This is something I hear about religion all the time, but it applies here.

    If you don’t want the truth, if you are so dead set against it, ignoring all the facts and evidence that point to the truth because it contradicts your beliefs, nothing will help. If you’ve jammed fingers in your ear, no matter how loud we shout, no matter how eloquent our arguments, you’ll not benefit at all.

  • JD

    Or Maybe this is can be on your list
    —–
    The Cincinnati chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-Cincinnati) today asked the FBI to investigate a threatening e-mail sent to an Ohio mosque that was targeted by bombs in 2005.

    CAIR-OH reported that the Islamic Association of Cincinnati, often referred to as the “Clifton mosque,” received an e-mail December 11 that stated in part: “You should know that you are not wanted in Cincinnati … We don’t want you here. Mohammad is a joke. Go back to your desert. Beware. We may just declare jihad on you.”

    Almost five years ago to the day, the same mosque was targeted by two pipe bombs in a case that has yet to be solved. In 2006, the mosque received a phone threat and a car full of men warning they were “going to bomb this place” drove past the facility.

  • NassirH

    Yet another case of Islamophobes suffering from a variety of mental problems, including projection and victim complex. Funny how someone who attempts to demonize an entire religious minority is calling other Nazis.

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  • JD

    /\ But i dont think JB will count that on his list because it does not fit his little paraniod conspericy theory of darky takeing over

  • JD

    MOSCOW – The hooligans and racists who rampaged in Moscow this weekend will be tracked down and punished, President Dmitry Medvedev declared, warning Monday that Russia itself could be torn apart if seething ethnic tensions spin out of control.

    About 5,000 people, mainly boys and young men, rallied for hours on a square just outside the Kremlin Saturday, chanting “Russia for Russians!” as well as an obscene slur against people from Russia’s Caucasus region. They brutally beat some dark-skinned passers-by, and when police moved against the demonstrators, rioting broke out that injured more than 30 people.

    In addition, a native of Kyrgyzstan was stabbed to death by unidentified assailants in southern Moscow early Monday, police spokesman Gennady Bogachev said.

    Resentment is rising among Slavic Russians over the growing presence in Moscow and elsewhere of people from the Caucasus, the home of numerous ethnic groups, most of them Muslim. People from other parts of the former Soviet Union, including Central Asia and Azerbaijan, also face strong ethnic discrimination in Russia.

  • Justin

    I find it strange this Frenchwoman is whining about “occupation” because Muslims legally immigrate to France, meanwhile France still has the stain of Algeria in its recent history.

    http://www.carnegiecouncil.org/education/002/film/reviews/0005.html

  • DrM

    Ah yes, the French at it again. The historical behavior of French terrorists in Africa is what was in line with Nazi behavior, if not worse.

    In Algeria entire tribes that had sought refuge in caves were “smoked out” (“enfumades”). The French colonel Lucien-François de Montagnac wrote in a letter from Algeria in 1842: “We kill, we strangle. The cries of the desperate and dying mingle with the noise of the bellowing, bleating livestock. You ask me what we do with the women. Well, we keep some as hostages, others we exchange for horses, the rest are auctioned like cattle… In order to banish the thoughts that sometimes besiege me, I have some heads cut off, not the heads of artichokes but the heads of men.”

    Louis de Baudicour, a French writer and settler in Algeria, described one of the many massacres: “A soldier cut off a woman’s breast in jest, another grabbed a child by its legs and smashed its skull against a wall.” Victor Hugo reported that soldiers would throw children to each other in order to catch them on the tips of their bayonets. They would get 100 sous for an ear preserved in brine. The bonus for a severed head was higher. The bodies of Arabs were sometimes turned into animal charcoal (Oliver Le Cour Grandmaison).

  • Sam Seed

    Muslims will bow to no one but God. They should fear God and not man.

    God is Great!

  • http://peakofelephants.tumblr.com Peakofelephants

    “French far-right star compares praying Muslims to Nazi occupiers”

    I don’t get it. Le Pen loves the Nazis. The Vichy regime is probably considered by her to be the greatest few years France ever experienced in its entire history as a nation.

  • Lilly

    JB… note it said “Anti-Semetic”. Please get a more complete list.

  • http://www.inquisitor.com/NYDiary/ Daniel Ibn Zayd

    I lived in France for four years in the mid-80s. This is nothing new; landlords would say to my face they would not rent rooms to Arabs; I was stopped at least once a day if not 4-5 times a day to show my papers to the National Security Police in the subway and elsewhere….and I wasn’t even experiencing the life of those in the “banlieues”. Near my apartment in the 20th arrondissment (at the time, largely a mixed African community), the weekly market at the Place des Fetes saw the arrival of the National Front with their table, and their leaflets, and their cries of “Go home, dirty foreigners!” Imagine the KKK setting up a table in Harlem for a comparison. This isn’t anything new; this is a continuation of a “softer” racism that was Orientalism, and then the exoticizing of the Other in Europe–take a look at the tropes of French advertising, which put “Mammy” and Uncle Ben and Aunt Jemima to shame. They’re tired of us, now that we’re speaking up and out, and so the boot is coming down. So much for “liberty, fraternity, equality”. Meanwhile, in Beirut, the ambassador says stuff like, “the Damascus Highway was a gift from France–and now we are going to take it back, remake it.” They attack us there, and colonize us here–where would they have us go??

  • mindy1

    Good lord where do these people come from?

  • Mosizzle

    “Let’s hope real instances of hate attacks are addressed first:”

    So that means you’re saying that attacks against Muslims are not “real”. Ask Ahmed H. Sharif.

    http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/08/islamophobia-what-islamophobia/

    After you say stuff like that, how can anyone believe you when you or other Islamophobes when you claim that you ‘supposedly’ “love Mooslims”

  • mike

    More looney toons. The french occupied muslim lands not so long ago, it would be ironic if the muslims occupied their land, although that is not going to happen..

  • JihadBob

    European Loonieness keeps marching on. Instead of focusing on combating the anti-Muslim sentiment raging in France they French elite chose to focus on the 500 women who wear Niqab. Go figure!

    Let’s hope real instances of hate attacks are addressed first:

    http://www.kintera.org/atf/cf/%7BDFD2AAC1-2ADE-428A-9263-35234229D8D8%7D/franceattacks.pdf

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