We are well aware of the fact that the AlQaeda threat is overblown, or to cite Australian Intelligence, “vastly overblown.” Articles from our writers in the past have also explored the fact that the Terror threat in the West in general is very low, that actual occurrences are lower than leftist/separatist attacks.
Even when terrorism does occur discussion inevitably leads to the 800 pound gorilla in the room that no one wants to talk about; occupation. Occupation, aggressive posturing against Muslims and the rise of Islamophobia in the West correlate significantly or in part to the well spring of terrorist recruitment. They don’t attack us for our “freedom,” they attack us because we are “over there.”
The news media has worked in tandem or as unwitting stooges in the propagation of the “myth” of the number one enemy being “Islam” or “terrorism.” In doing so they generally neglect or push to the side serious stories that highlight and expose “terror plots” amongst other groups.
Recently a house in Connecticut that three white men had recently moved into was found to have “improvised explosives.” Imagine if it had been “three Middle Eastern” looking guys? Or heaven forbid some Muslims?
FBI, Connecticut police find “improvised explosives” inside New Haven home
(HSNW) Published 16 December 2010
The FBI and Connecticut police late Wednesday night find improvised explosives devices and bomb-making material in a New Haven, Connecticut home; firefighters found the materials when they responded to reports of smoke coming out of the house; it is not yet clear how many bombs were found, and what type of explosives material was used
Connecticut police and FBI agents are investigating what they say appear to be “improvised explosives” and bomb-making materials found late Wednesday night in a New Haven home.
Firefighters found the materials when they responded to reports by neighbors of smoke at 17 Hubinger Street, New Haven Police Officer Joe Avery said .
No injuries were reported, and Avery said there is no immediate danger.
Fox News quotes Avery to say that it is not clear how many bombs and explosive materials are in the home.
An FBI spokesman in New Haven confirmed that agents were on the scene Thursday and were assisting in the investigation, but declined to provide additional details.
Hubinger Street remained closed to traffic early Thursday.
The police say the home was empty and no one has been arrested, but that they have persons of interest they want to talk to.
Peter Wells, who lives not far from the home, said a “few guys” had moved into the residence on Sunday. The three white men appeared to be in their mid 20s or early 30s, Wells said.
“They looked like average guys,” he said. “I didn’t see anything out of line at all, that’s why I’m a daze myself about what’s going on.”
He said he was awakened at 3:30 a.m. by the police. “They just got the house shut down,” Wells told FoxNews.com. “Whatever happened at this residence, [police officials] are stating that it’s a pretty serious matter over there. But they’re not releasing many details.”
Wells said he saw New Haven police officers “stomping on a box” early Thursday morning, and that police dogs were on the scene.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Not to negate the true threat which does exist (more against other Muslims), the Al Qaeda threat has of course been exaggerated in the USA by groups with an agenda, this includes those groups/people (like Cheney) who seek to steal resources (oil, minerals)under Muslim owned lands.
Anyone who believes that “three white men” can’t be terrorists or part of al qaeda, are not very knowledgable about the terror threat anyway. Unfortunately, a lot do fall into that category, due to misinformation, and calls for “profiling”. As if you can profile a religous group that encompasses, all races and nationalities, and every skin colour on the planet.
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The New Al-Qaeda- Blonde Haired, Blue Eyed Westerners
youtube.com/watch?v=GBO7xBpJtoc
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Al-Qaeda’s Caucasian Foot Soldiers
By: Hayder Mili
jamestown.org/programs/gta/single/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=948&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=181&no_cache=1
Publication: Terrorism Monitor Volume: 4 Issue: 21November 2, 2006
In the West, Islamic terrorism is a threat traditionally associated with Middle Eastern men whose faces are easily perceived as “alien” and who present a suitable profile around which to organize law enforcement monitoring. Recent events have again shown that this profile is outdated.
Blue-Eyed Emirs
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December 20th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
We’ll see if this story fizzles out just like your last one of ‘Islamophobia’ turned out to be loon exaggeration.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Which story was loon exaggeration?
Was that the one where an Jundallah supposedly wanted the implementation of a “Sunni Islamist Theocracy”?(your words, JB)
That wasn’t just loon exaggeration. That was outright loon deception. Loony taqiyya.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Bob, pray, what is there to “fizzle out” about this story? Police and FBI find suspicious material and want to interview these suspects.
Had these been Muslims, Islamophobistan would be in an uproar. And EVEN then if the story had turned out to be a false alarm, they wouldn’t redact or update or back down, nooo. Any excuse to rattle sabres against the Muslim world, even a proven bogus one, is good enough.
But to you dolts, as these guys are most probably non Muslim, the story doesn’t matter by definition. And if it “fizzles out”, it’ll matter even less.
December 20th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
aggressive posturing against Muslims and the rise of Islamophobia in the West correlate significantly
Ha ha.
So now Jihadwatch is responsible for al-Qaeda and the global Islamist movement?
Gee, I wonder why there aren’t global Hindu/Sikh or Christian terror movements that operate on the texts and teachings of their particular religions?
Maybe Christians in the Muslim world aren’t oppressed as the Muslims in the Western world.
Must be it!
December 20th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Bob, which Christian country is being bombed and occupied by Muslims again?
December 20th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Maybe they were just taking a leaf out of the Swedish suicide bomber?
Of course, unlike him, they didn’t actually set these alleged explosives off in a crowded area full of civilians.
December 20th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Southern Sudan will (again) if they vote for independence.
December 20th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Strange, Bashir only said they would tighten their laws in the North if the South splits. Nothing about bombing or occupying the South. Fail.
“Of course, unlike him, they didn’t actually set these alleged explosives off in a crowded area full of civilians.”
Well the Swedish bomber didn’t hurt anyone either, so I guess that makes it alright as well. But most telling is this line:
“Maybe they were just taking a leaf out of the Swedish suicide bomber?”
So non-Muslims preparing explosives in their home is the fault of Muslims nevertheless. Sheer brilliance, Bob, you went lower than I thought you could.
December 20th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
“Southern Sudan will (again) if they vote for independence.”
Of course, Northern Sudan will claim that there are WMDs in Southern Sudan and invade.
December 20th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
ANOTHER GOOD ONE FOR ‘WHAT IF THEY WERE MUSLIM’:
Bat Yam rally: Death to Jewish women who date Arabs
200 people(including young kids as can be seen by the picture, so who says only muslims teach their children to hate) demonstrate in city center against ‘Arabs who are taking our daughters’; leftists wave signs reading ‘Jews and Arabs refuse to be enemies’
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4002085,00.html
December 20th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
“ One of the protestors called out, “Any Jewish woman who goes with an Arab should be killed; any Jew who sells his home to an Arab should be killed.”
Nice find, Rob. I could easily make a joke like ‘More love from God’s chosen people’. But I refuse to sink to the Islamophobes’ level and generalise as well as ignore the Jewish voices of reason n that new story. But this is worrying news. Obviously, Geller is silent. Her followers call her a fighter for women’s rights and that she reports on cases of honour killings that the liberal PC media supposedly refuse to show but here she is silent. Hypocritical fool.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
@jihad bob: Actually, there are Hindu and Sikh terrorist groups who attempt to justify their actions with their respective religious texts.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
“Gee, I wonder why there aren’t global Hindu/Sikh or Christian terror movements that operate on the texts and teachings of their particular religions?”
Sikh: Babbar Khalsa (bombing of Air India flight from Canada that killed 329 people, also known as Canada’s 9/11)
Again it was occupation based. These Sikhs wanted their own homeland and so wanted to be separated from India which they believe was occupying them.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Jihadbob says : ” Gee, I wonder why there aren’t global Hindu/Sikh or Christian terror movements that operate on the texts and teachings of their particular religions? ”
IDIOT !! closing your eyes wouldnt make the world go blind !!
There are plenty of them,
these are just a few among many from India alone..
The National Liberation Front of Tripura, a rebel group operating in Tripura, North-East India classified by the National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world, has been accused of forcefully converting people to Christianity.
In Assam, an extremest group named Manmasi National Christian Army (MNCA) have placed bloodstained crosses in Hindu temples and forced Hindus to convert at gunpoint
Not to mention plenty of hindu extremist organizations like BhajrangDal, RSS etc(who even have participation in assassinating Gandhi)
Get your facts straight. i know its very difficult for you, but you gotta give it a try atleast once in your life!
December 20th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Even when judullahBob moves the goalposts, he still manages to fail.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
CAIR: Ohio Muslim Woman Pepper-Sprayed in Hate Attack
CAIR-Ohio to seek FBI hate crime probe of assault outside mosque
(COLUMBUS, OH, 12/20/10) –- On Tuesday, December 21, the Columbus chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) will hold a news conference to urge the FBI to investigate an apparently bias-motivated attack earlier today on a Muslim woman outside a local mosque as a hate crime.
CAIR said the Muslim woman, who wears Islamic attire, was allegedly stalked, verbally harassed and then pepper-sprayed by a white man shouting religious and ethnic slurs such as, “Tell all of your Muslims that this is not your country,” “Go back to wherever you came from,” and threatening “I will kill you.” The incident was recorded on the mosque’s security camera. Columbus police are investigating the alleged assault.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
the bit about “the white men” in contrast to “muslims” seems to be a lack of using the brain “emperor”.
is Islam a country or do only people of certain colours accept it?
coz from what i’ve read, there where white muslims and black muslims in the prophet’s time,
the prophet was a white arab, suhaib was a white byzantine, bilal was a black abyssinian.
please don’t do that,
peace,
abz
December 20th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
The National Liberation Front of Tripura, a rebel group operating in Tripura, North-East India classified by the National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world, has been accused of forcefully converting people to Christianity.
What part of ‘globalist’ don’t you understand?
But anyway, I’m happy to compare the charter of the NLFT to Islamic terrorists groups, such as Hamas or al-Qaeda.
You game?
December 20th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
@JihadBob
http://www.defendtheprophet.com/the-96th-united-states-congress-honors-islam
THE 96TH UNITED STATES CONGRESS HONORS ISLAM
In the Senate of the United States
October 4th 1979
Honoring the Fourteenth Centennial of Islam.
Whereas November 21, 1979, marks the fourteen hundredth anniversary of the founding of Islam, an event which will be commemorated throughout the world, including in the Holy Cities of Islam; and
Whereas Islam is one of the mankind’s great religions in history and today, followed by approximately eight hundred million people encompassing every major region of the world; and
Whereas the word “Islam” derives from Abraham’s willingness to accept all God’s commands, an example profoundly meaningful to all monotheistic religions; and
Whereas the “House of Islam” extended gracious hospitality to philosophy and science in both the East and West when these scholarly disciplines were threatened by narrowness and prejudice, thus preserving this precious heritage for subsequent generations; and
Whereas Islam strives for a world-wide community which, in the words of one Islamic poet-philosopher, “does not recognize the superficial differences of race, or history, or nationality”; and
Whereas the United States and countries of the Islamic world hold in common many benefits and values including the concept of world community, which inspired the founding Fathers of our own country; and
Whereas international understanding and peace are strengthened by free and open communications among nations representing various historical and religious traditions:
Now, therefore, be it resolved by the Senate (the House of Representatives concurring),
Sec. 1. That Islam is hereby recognized for the rich religious, scientific, cultural, and artistic contribution it has made to mankind since its founding.
Sec. 2. The Congress takes note of the contribution of Islam and wishes success to the fourteenth centennial commemoration.
Sec. 3. On the occasion of this anniversary, the Congress pledges its efforts to achieve better understanding, reductions of tensions, and the pursuit of improved relations with all nations of the world.
Sec. 4. The Congress requests that the President forward a copy of this resolution to the Chief of State of each country where Islam has a significant following and where celebrations will mark this important international event.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
National Front for the Liberation of Tripura Charter:
http://www.wordle.net/show/wrdl/2911909/NFLT
December 20th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
Hamas Charter:
http://www.wordle.net/show/wrdl/2911913/Charter_Hamas
December 20th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
Al Qaeda declaration of war against the Jews and West:
http://www.wordle.net/show/wrdl/2911915/fatwa
Any questions?
December 21st, 2010 at 12:49 am
JB is one loon who cant reply decently.
December 21st, 2010 at 1:48 am
Gee, I wonder why Bob chose not to post the charters themselves and only posted a jumble of words. It can’t be those pesky contexts, can it?
Well let’s play at this game, still: Hamas Charter mentions PLO, Zionism and Zionists, invasion and Palestine, whereas Al Qaeda talks about armies, lands, occupation, Americans, Iraq, Sudan, etc.
Sounds like political organizations of the “God is on our side” type to me.
Anyway, you still haven’t revisited your claim that these people may have been inspired by the Swedish bomber, Bob. Are you really trying to spin this off as the fault of those damn Mooslimbs again? That desperate?
What a nuisance..
December 21st, 2010 at 4:05 am
@abz 2000 :Accoding to one Hadith,one of the Sahaba Abu Annas stated that he saw the PENIS of Mohammad,which was white.Hence Mohammad was a White man of Arabia.You can find so many white Arabs in Middle East even these days.A natural blond won’t have black pubic hair.Like wise a white man won’t have a black penis and vice versa.
December 21st, 2010 at 4:11 am
@Robaby, you know things are wrong when you behave like the people who oppressed you in recent history
December 21st, 2010 at 5:05 am
Oh boy! Now people are accusing them of being Muslims! Typical! I’m sure Emperor knows what he’s reporting. If these “three white men” were Muslims, I’m sure Emperor wouldn’t have said “what if they were Muslim”? DUH!
Thanks for this info. Emperor!
December 21st, 2010 at 5:33 am
@halalpork, have you ever heard of a disease called Vitiligo : http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4535420&tqkw=&tqshow=2020&page=1
December 21st, 2010 at 5:55 am
@ halalpork: What was that? something about how you like black PENIS’ with blond pubic hairs? Halal Porker is a sicko with a weird fetish and amazing memory for everything with a sexual or private nature in Islamic Literature.
December 21st, 2010 at 5:56 am
“Gee, I wonder why there aren’t global Hindu/Sikh or Christian terror movements that operate on the texts and teachings of their particular religions?”
Babbar Khalsa (responsible for bombing of Air India flight from Canada that killed 329 people, also known as Canada’s 9/11)
Again it was occupation based. These Sikhs wanted their own homeland and so wanted to be separated from India which they believe was occupying them. But they definitely twisted the Sikh religion to justify their terrorism.
December 21st, 2010 at 6:02 am
Lol, HalalPork was using a made up Hadith. There is no such Hadith. In fact, this fabrication can be traced to Robert Morey, notorious anti-Muslim. He made the mistake in misreading the Hadith and propagated it around the Internet.
“As it turns out, however, Dr. Morey had been using an earlier edition of the translation which due to a typographical error had the word “thing” instead of “thigh” in the English translation. Not knowing the Arabic, Dr. Morey did not detect the mistake, and used it as a basis for further substituting the word “penis” for “thing.” Thus in his book The Islamic Invasion Dr. Morey wrote that Anas “saw the whiteness of the penis of Allah’s Prophet””
http://shabirally.wordpress.com/2008/12/29/robert-morey/
December 21st, 2010 at 6:04 am
And his thigh being white is no proof that he was white as a white man is in America. The thigh part was probably white because the part is always covered from the Sun. However, he was a light skinned Arab but certainly not White. And he did have white followers, some with blue eyes and blond hair.
December 21st, 2010 at 8:29 am
As I said, I’m happy to compare the respective charters of the NLFT to Islamic terrorist groups such as Hamas.
One is clearly fighting in the name of religion, the other one isn’t.
December 21st, 2010 at 9:32 am
@JihadBob – There are a few more extremist organizations with a religious agenda that you might wish to compare – http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology
December 21st, 2010 at 11:34 am
@ Pork, There is no such hadith that states a companion of Muhammad saw his penis, you lying bigot.
@ Jihadbob, when you idiots make the claim of “Global islamic” terror, you’re not being honest. Most of the Worlds nations have no incidents of so called “islamic” terror. The isolated random incidents in the USA, UK, Spain,Israel are hardly Global.Not even 50% of the earths nations. But of course we know you “Western” supremacist think you are the only ones that matter in the world. yet the over whelming number of nations of the world are not affected by so called “islamic” terror.
December 21st, 2010 at 12:04 pm
@JihadBob
http://www.defendtheprophet.com/the-96th-united-states-congress-honors-islam
THE 96TH UNITED STATES CONGRESS HONORS ISLAM
In the Senate of the United States
October 4th 1979
Honoring the Fourteenth Centennial of Islam.
Whereas November 21, 1979, marks the fourteen hundredth anniversary of the founding of Islam, an event which will be commemorated throughout the world, including in the Holy Cities of Islam; and
Whereas Islam is one of the mankind’s great religions in history and today, followed by approximately eight hundred million people encompassing every major region of the world; and
Whereas the word “Islam” derives from Abraham’s willingness to accept all God’s commands, an example profoundly meaningful to all monotheistic religions; and
Whereas the “House of Islam” extended gracious hospitality to philosophy and science in both the East and West when these scholarly disciplines were threatened by narrowness and prejudice, thus preserving this precious heritage for subsequent generations; and
Whereas Islam strives for a world-wide community which, in the words of one Islamic poet-philosopher, “does not recognize the superficial differences of race, or history, or nationality”; and
Whereas the United States and countries of the Islamic world hold in common many benefits and values including the concept of world community, which inspired the founding Fathers of our own country; and
Whereas international understanding and peace are strengthened by free and open communications among nations representing various historical and religious traditions:
Now, therefore, be it resolved by the Senate (the House of Representatives concurring),
Sec. 1. That Islam is hereby recognized for the rich religious, scientific, cultural, and artistic contribution it has made to mankind since its founding.
Sec. 2. The Congress takes note of the contribution of Islam and wishes success to the fourteenth centennial commemoration.
Sec. 3. On the occasion of this anniversary, the Congress pledges its efforts to achieve better understanding, reductions of tensions, and the pursuit of improved relations with all nations of the world.
Sec. 4. The Congress requests that the President forward a copy of this resolution to the Chief of State of each country where Islam has a significant following and where celebrations will mark this important international event.
December 21st, 2010 at 1:43 pm
@ Jihadbob, when you idiots make the claim of “Global islamic” terror, you’re not being honest. Most of the Worlds nations have no incidents of so called “islamic” terror. The isolated random incidents in the USA, UK, Spain,Israel are hardly Global.Not even 50% of the earths nations. But of course we know you “Western” supremacist think you are the only ones that matter in the world. yet the over whelming number of nations of the world are not affected by so called “islamic” terror.
When Saudi and Egyptian terrorists call on Muslims from around the world to travel to Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan, the Philippines and Chechnya to fight Jihad or to send funds for Jihad, that’s global.
You won’t see Christian converts in Brazil travel off to India to fight for the establishment of a Christian theocracy in Northern India, but you will see converts to Islam in America or France or Uganda fight Jihad in Southern Russia or Moroccans join terror training camps in Waziristan.
December 21st, 2010 at 2:47 pm
I didn’t realize Hamas was a glabal organization. I do not remember any act of theirs outside of Lebenon or Israel.
It if funny how the link for the Hamas Charter was posted on Worlde about two hours before you attached the link to this site.
I am all for free speach but to engage Jihadbob and Halalpork in any sort of diologue is just a waste of time. They are not hear to have an open dialogue they are hear to refute every post as an over exacheration by Muslims or Progressives. Both want a one thing. Muslims to leave the West. Which is close to what Al-Qeda wants which is the West to leave the Muslim world. Jihadbob/Halalpork and Al-Qeda/Hamas are two sides of the same hatemongering coin. The only difference is the religion of the innocient people they wanted to see persecuted.
December 21st, 2010 at 4:06 pm
I didn’t realize Hamas was a glabal organization. I do not remember any act of theirs outside of Lebenon or Israel.
You’ll notice that I had two conditions in my post comparing terrorist groups: a) that they were global and b) that they operated on the texts and teachings of a religion.
Hamas fulfills the second condition, so now you know.
It if funny how the link for the Hamas Charter was posted on Worlde about two hours before you attached the link to this site.
Try a few minutes.
Two hours, LoL.
December 21st, 2010 at 4:19 pm
JBob, you said AND not OR for your two conditions, so Hamas only fulfills your 2nd condition not your 1st
December 21st, 2010 at 4:21 pm
When Rabbis ask Jews from all around the world to go and fight for Israel in the military(even if they are citizens of other countries) and live in illegal settlements, I guess they calling for Jewish Jihad, right JBob, according to your criteria?
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:05 am
Muslims of any caste or creed or colour are potential terrorists.All the people who defend them by any means even through web site like this are accomplices in defending those terrorists.Blasphemy laws in Pakistan and other Muslim countries are also contributing factors towards defending terrorism.Jihad and propagation of Jihad in Islam by Mohammad is a Continous form of aggressive terrorism for which they would always find some excuse like the wolf who accused the lamb of polluting the water in the stream although the poor lamb was not responsible for that because the water was flowing towards him from the wolf.But the wolf still found some eccuse to attack and kill it.That is reason that Muslims can never live at peace within them selves and other people because they happen to follow and worship the prince of terror called Mohammad.The sooner they realize that stop trying to find lame excuses ,the better it would be for the peace in this world.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:08 am
Muslims of any caste or creed or colour are potential terrorists.All the people who defend them by any means even through web site like this are accomplices in defending those terrorists.Blasphemy laws in Pakistan and other Muslim countries are also contributing factors towards defending terrorism.Jihad and propagation of Jihad in Islam by Mohammad is a Continous form of aggressive terrorism for which they would always find some excuse like the wolf who accused the lamb of polluting the water in the stream although the poor lamb was not responsible for that because the water was flowing towards him from the wolf.But the wolf still found some excuse to attack and killthe poor lamb .That is the reason that the Muslims can never live at peace within them selves and other people because they happen to follow and worship the prince of terror called Mohammad.The sooner they realize that stop trying to find lame excuses ,the better it would be for the peace in this world.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:47 am
^we don’t believe in caste system pig! You’ll never be at peace because of your hatred towards Muslims. You’ll eventually realize how wrong you are.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:40 am
“You’ll notice that I had two conditions in my post comparing terrorist groups: a) that they were global and b) that they operated on the texts and teachings of a religion.”
I’ve said this two times now. Babbar Khalsa. They bombed an Air India flight off the coast of Ireland that was transporting Canadian citizens to India. It is known as Canada’s 9/11. The goal of the organisation is to create a Sikh homeland in Punjab called the Khalsa, that would be run a according to Sikh teachings. The group is global and receives funding from members of the Sikh diaspora. Obviously, moderate Sikhs have condemned them.
You asked for a global Sikh terrorist group, here you go.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:45 am
HalalPork, you didn’t answer me about how you used a made up Hadith from Robert Morey.
“As it turns out, however, Dr. Morey had been using an earlier edition of the translation which due to a typographical error had the word “thing” instead of “thigh” in the English translation. Not knowing the Arabic, Dr. Morey did not detect the mistake, and used it as a basis for further substituting the word “penis” for “thing.” Thus in his book The Islamic Invasion Dr. Morey wrote that Anas “saw the whiteness of the penis of Allah’s Prophet””
http://shabirally.wordpress.com/2008/12/29/robert-morey/
Oops. HalalPork fails….again.
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Son western terrorists have been letting bombs off in crowded places for years, just look in Iraq and Afghanistan, it may be a war to you but it is terrorism to those effected by it there! And small sausage next time you come over to our house to play with my son please refrain from bringing those magazines, after you left I found my son trying to eat one in a whipped up frenzy, very scary!
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:19 pm
AHH small sausage our hindu friend
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:44 pm
@haram pork, go here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
it’s part of your therapy/deconditioning
Allahu A’lam
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:20 am
@ mOSIZZLE :fIRST OF ALL YOU DENY THE EXISTANCE OF HADITH WHICH DESCRIBES THE COLOUR OF PENIS OF MOHAMMAD BEING WHITE.THEN YOU MENTION THE MISTRANSLATION OF THE EARLIER HADITH.pLEASE MAKE UP YOUR MIND FIRST.HOW COULD THERE BE MISTRANSLATION,IF THERE WAS NO HADITH IN EXISTANCE.NOW COMING TO WHITENESS OF THIGH OF MOHAMMAD BEING WHITE BECAUSE IT WAS COVERED ALL THE TIME.THEN WHY THE THIGH OF BILAL,THE BLACK SLAVE NOT WHITE BECAUSE THAT WAS ALSO COVERED ALL THE TIME?
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:24 am
haram porker,
come on,why are refusing therapy??!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
Allahu A’lam
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:41 am
LOL
He needs more than therapy, M Al Haq,
what amazes me, is how Mosizzle and others have time to rebut this loser’s points, as if he is interested in them. He will come back in another thread with exactly the same nonsense, no matter how many times you try to open his eyes.
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:37 am
^you’re right but I think Mosizzle only responds for the readers not for Porky cuz he’s hopeless.
December 23rd, 2010 at 8:12 am
True. I only respond because I don’t want HalalPork or other people who share his views that are reading this to think that they have won. It isn’t too hard because HalalPork’s logic is so flawed that it only requires a few minutes of my time to take it apart.
Now, I never denied that there was a Hadith. All I said was that Robert Morey, a dumb Islam hater, mistranslated that Hadith. Hence, there was a Hadith but it talked about a thigh not the penis. And the thigh was white, not because the Prophet (PBUH) was white but because the thigh is covered from the Sun. This is because the UV rays do not reach the thigh and cannot darken it. All brown people will notice that their thighs are lighter than their hands which are always exposed. Someone mentioned you were from India, so that means you can check this out. Compare your hands with your thigh, not your penis, remember there might be children reading.
I can’t say anything about Black people’s thighs because I haven’t seen one but Black people’s skin is always black whereas brown people will notice their skin colour varies throughout the year as the level of Sun varies. Brown people who wear watches during the summer also notice that the area of skin under the watch is also white, proving that skin colour does change with exposure to the Sun.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:34 am
Did any one notice an article on huffpost…..Nazi celebrating christmas.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/22/a-nazi-christmas-party-ra_n_800595.html
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:51 am
@SillyGuy – What!!! Have you not read the entire series of comments by JihadBob refudiating the idea that the Nazis were Christians? Or the blog posts by Spamella insinuating that the Nazis were in fact closet-Muslims?
/sarcasm
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
MODERATOR ALERT: PLEASE BAN HALAL PORK.
This is serious – I am really concerned for HalalPork. He is at least borderline psychotic. Every response to him seems to increase his rage and paranoia. Looks like he comes here to justify the murderous rage he feels against Muslims, Jews and women. It is only a matter of time before he will escalate his online rantings and rage to action. I urge the moderators to ban him from this forum – this guy is ticking and needs urgent medical care.
December 24th, 2010 at 1:24 am
Mosizzle,
Weird again!haram porker is trying to trip you up…don’t let him. i don’t even know why he brought up Muhammad’s color. Maybe he saw “Three White men with “Improvised Explosives”" and in his schizophrenic world somehow felt the need to tell us that the Prophet(as) was a white guy. I suppose if the article title read “Three Black Men with “Improvised Explosives”" he’d bring up the hadiths that suggest the Prophet(as) had some black ancestors or he would be going on and on about Bilal(ra)and how he learned bomb-making from the Prophet(as)or some such nonsense.
“All brown people will notice that their thighs are lighter than their hands which are always exposed.”
All that brown people talk seems to assume the validity of race. i hope you are speaking in terms of skin color and not race. Prophet Muhammad(as) could have very well been a white man. Doesn’t make him any less Arab or Middle-Eastern since neither constitutes a race. Race is purely a social, or should i say sociocultural, construct, and the only die hard scientists still clinging to the belief that humans can be categorized into races are some forensic anthropologist who believe that they can identify “racial markers” in skeletal characteristics. And die hard racists who use sciences such as anthropology to confirm their racial beliefs.
So-called black people are brown to very dark brown so the relative term black is used. And many so-called blacks have the same skin color as “whites”. My thighs are lighter than my hands and i’m considered a black person(although a half-East Indian one: what am i a black-brown person, since brown seems to be reserved for South Asians and Middle-Easterners, including many North Africans?).And “Black” people’s skin is never literally black,so the same thing that happens to people of other complexions and skin colors, with respect to skin color variation and sun exposure, happens to “blacks” too. You know that.
Allahu A’lam
December 24th, 2010 at 3:20 am
I second Syed, regarding Haram Pork,. I’m all for free speech and opposing views, but this Pork character is just a spammer. He doesn’t even have fluency in English, leave alone ANY knowledge of world affairs that he can share. He soley comes here to antagonise. He should be banned.
Why do I get the feeling that he was probably dumped by Muslim girl? Am I right Haram Pork? Like Phyliss Chesler, (whose Islamophobia is rooted in her failed marriage to an Afghan man) you start attacking Muslims in revenge.
As for Loon Watch Admin, they probably think Haram Pork and JihadBob, another spammer,is good for stickiness, he stirs people up which motivates them to post. It keeps regulars coming back. Hence it’s good for the site. Sites which allow no dissenting or enemy commentators are rarely successful.
Pray tell, am I right, Admin?:)
Ahhhhhhhh, the sacrifices we make for the cause……bring it on Pork, and kudos and thanks to those who spend the time rebutting Pork and JihadBob.
December 24th, 2010 at 3:22 am
Precisely muhammad and I don’t think that anyone is arguing on the contrary. I myself have been categorized as anything from ‘Anglo-Saxon’ to ‘Chinese’ for crying out loud!
December 24th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Ban HalalPork and the filth that he utters. He is like a parrot, repeats the same line again and again and has genocidal tendencies.
He has clearly demonstrated in many threads that he is a racist (calling Whoopee Goldberg ‘a monkey that belongs in the jungle’). Banning him will bear many fruits(least of it not diverting us away from the topic).
Mosizzle, I appreciate your replying to his outlandish trates, but is it worth the affort to respond to a racist/bigot? His imagination only can go as far as PENIS.
I am all for constructive critism but he is clearly a troll, and a bigoted, sicko! He is on the ends of the lower branches of the loon tree.
Here have a cracker, it’s on me!
December 24th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Sorry for the confusion about the term “brown people”. I myself am a brown person (of the Pakistani variety). This was never a race issue, I was only speaking of colour and that the parts of the skin covered from the Sun end up lighter than the parts left uncovered. It’s common sense really.
When I said brown people, I was not talking about a “brown race”. No, I was only talking about people who happen to have skin colour that can be described as brown. I agree, people keep talking about race as if it matters. There is only one race : the human race.
” what am i a black-brown person, since brown seems to be reserved for South Asians and Middle-Easterners, including many North Africans?”
That’s a bit of a puzzle. All these ‘combinations’ make the whole idea of splitting people into races even more confusing. I’ve even heard the term “Blaxican” to describe the children of Mexican and Black parents.
And the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was an Arab who had light-ish skin. But of course none of it matters.
“All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action.”
From his Farewell Sermon. The fact that such a clear statement was not given by Jesus may be responsible for some of the racism in the Christian world until recently. In fact, some Christians had a hard time accepting Black people were even human. Whilst Jesus had 12 disciples, one for each tribe of Israel to signify he had only come to save the Jews, the Prophet had a variety of companions, from Arabs to Persians, Black Ethiopians to Blonde, Blue eyed Romans, to highlight how he had come for the whole human race.
December 24th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Just to point it out, Arabs aren’t traditionally referred to as brown people. I know this is not the clearest subject in the world but many anthropologists consider any person west of the Caucus mountains and north of the Sahara ‘white’. Thats how the term CAUCASian was coined. Based on that really loose definition, almost all Arabs would be considered white since the Arabian Peninsula is west of the Caucus and most of North Africa is away from the Sahara. Appropriately, many Arabs are also considered a Dark White…I guess thats how they came up with the word Moor when referring to the darker people of the southern Mediterranean (like Berbers). Although I’ve noticed that Berbers are actually very light skinned as opposed to Arabs.
December 24th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
I agree with Muhammad. Race has no scientific basis (and, if you’re a Muslim, no theological basis). I pointed this out in another forum:
http://www.amazon.com/tag/islam/forum/ref=cm_cd_pg_pg8?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx2YU5IAI2FCUZJ&cdPage=8&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=Tx1I0QYWRM7ITLV&displayType=tagsDetail
Immigrants from the Middle East and South Asia who try to pass themselves off as “white” or even “Aryan” in the West are in for a rude awakening.
December 24th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
While we are on this topic, is there any mention of the Prophet’s hair color in any Hadiths or elsewhere ?
December 25th, 2010 at 9:15 am
His hair was black:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad#Verbal_descriptions
December 25th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Nice writing there Michael Elwood, I notice one of the loons pulled up the ‘I bet there is not one Synagogue in a Muslim country’. *sigh*…
December 25th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Thanks, Jack. There’s real discrimination against Jews in some parts of the Islamic world. It makes you wonder why they feel the need exaggerate or lie about it.
December 25th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Mosizzle, some say the The Prophet’s hair was red. It as probably, dark brown, hence called red in the sun, and looked black when it wasn’t sunny. But God knows best.
December 25th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Humans confuse me, loony ones more so
You are what you read, read shite and you’ll think shite.
December 25th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Tru dat.
December 27th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Another article for what if they were Muslim treatment: http://www.tehelka.com/story_main48.asp?filename=Ne010111The_unturned.asp