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Crazy Frank Gaffney in Ultra Fear-mongering Mode

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Even loyal Bush aides are not free from the Islamophobic machine. Suhail Khan debates Frank Gaffney on Anderson Cooper’s 360 and makes Gaffney look like a wacko.

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  • Arturo Wordsworth

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  • Mosizzle

    “That said, labeling myself as “vilekuffir” is more for my own amusement than being for the edification of others. Considering I have been told, on numerous occasions, by Christians and Muslims, that I am going to burn in Hell, the label seems somewhat applicable.”

    Any specific reason you picked the Arabic “Kuffir” (shouldn’t it be Kafir?) ? You can understand my suspicion considering the numerous JWers who use the word “Kaffir” with pride.

    Couldn’t you just say “Vile Atheist” (or whatever you believe that has angered Christians and Muslims).

  • NassirH

    Did the folks who Joseph McCarthy accused of being secret Communists sue him? What about Obama? Is he going to sue birthers like Pamela Geller? Obama could also sue Spencer et al. for suggesting that he is a secret Muslim. Should the folks who were on the attacked Turkish flotilla sue Israel for falsely claiming that they were affiliated with terrorists? Perhaps Fathima Rifqa Bary’s parents should sue their daughter for all the false claims she made against them. I could also mention the Shirley Sherrod nontroversy and the mudslinging that goes on between a dozen other political figures, etc, etc…

    The list goes on and on but you get the point…

  • Mosizzle

    “I don’t give a rat’s hindquarters about Gaffney’s so-called “freedom of speech” as it were.”

    That’s not how most Islamophobes roll, so I assume you have some sense to realise that there are limits to freedom of speech. Anyway, it is Suhail Khan’s decision whether he sues him or not, I was predicting, based entirely on the past record of many Islamophobes, that that would be what would happen if Khan did sue him.

    To be honest, Khan is probably not thinking along those lines anyway. It is more likely he doesn’t find it to be appropriate to sue him, it seems quite “childish” like I’ve said. It seems from your first comment – “Am I missing something here” – that you are implying that Khan is not taking him to court because there might be some truth in those allegations. Is this what you are implying? Why you have asked us to ponder on why Khan is not doing this, as if we know what he is thinking or that we will ask him next time we Mooslims have our secret take-over-the-world meeting. 🙂

    I don’t know why he is not suing him. The moronic Pamela Geller was put in her place by the whopping “$10 million” defamation suit against her by lawyer Omar Tarazi from the Fatima Rifqa Bary trial. As I expected, she did talk about “litigation jihad”, “Sharia” and “freedom of speech”. Let’s hope he Tarazi gets the money and shuts that fool up.

    If you are that concerned with Khan suing him, then why not email him and suggest him to do so.

  • VileKufir

    Mosizzle muses: “It’s going to be difficult for him to sue everyone in Islamophobistan.”

    Irrelevant. He doesn’t have to. He is being handed an opportunity on a golden platter via Gaffney. Pending a successful outcome to the case, any vitriolic upchucking by Geller, Spencer et al would only succeed in further marginalizing their claims. With a court case behind us, we could simply look at the facts, then look, point and laugh at any hysteria surrounding it.

    Mosizzle muses: “By your name, I see you are a proud Islamophobe, isn’t that what you would do — make it seem like Khan was attacking Gaffney’s freedom of speech and scream that the Dhimmi judge is implementing Sharia Law.”

    I don’t give a rat’s hindquarters about Gaffney’s so-called “freedom of speech” as it were. If he is making demonstratively false statements he should pay dearly for his indiscretion. As for the rest of your suggestion I would consider such comments rather unseemly. It is quite unlikely that I would make such meaningless claims.

    That said, labeling myself as “vilekuffir” is more for my own amusement than being for the edification of others. Considering I have been told, on numerous occasions, by Christians and Muslims, that I am going to burn in Hell, the label seems somewhat applicable.

  • Syed said: ‘Stephen G. Parker said, “many Muslim immigrants to the U. S. A. find our Constitution to be more “Islamic” than the Muslim countries from which they came. ”

    shhhh… If the loons get a hint of this they will be screaming, “SEE CREEPING SHARIA …” 😉 ‘

    Yeah, isn’t it amazing how those awful Muslims started their “creeping Sharia” way back with Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, John Adams, Ben Franklin, etc.! 😆 Imagine that. They had our “founding fathers” hoodwinked, so it’s no wonder if we, the descendants, can’t “see the truth”! 😀

  • Mosizzle

    “The danger in not suing him is that he is giving Gaffney airtime that he does not deserve. In a very real sense he is empowering Gaffney through these repeated exchanges.”

    I suppose he is. But why are you so interested if he sues him or not?

    It’s going to be difficult for him to sue everyone in Islamophobistan. I hear Spencer’s going gaga over the news that Suhail Khan is secretly Muslim Brotherhood. Apart from usual screams of “taqqiyya”, he is insisting that Khan is a stealth jihadi and asked rhetorically “You gonna strap on a suicide vest, there, Suhail?”.

    It isn’t just Gaffney, it’s all of Islamophobistan claiming that anyone who is even slightly too Mooslim for their liking is secretly looking to take down the US. It’s Khan’s own choice if he sues or not and if Gaffney continues then he probably will.

    As I’ve said before, the court case will be a huge propaganda event for Spencer and Geller who will take the court case to be an attack on Freedom of Speech and draw parallels between Wilders’ trial and his situation. By your name, I see you are a proud Islamophobe, isn’t that what you would do — make it seem like Khan was attacking Gaffney’s freedom of speech and scream that the Dhimmi judge is implementing Sharia Law.

  • VileKufir

    Ok, I’ve read your comments but do not think the reasoning promoted holds any water. The case in point is that Gaffney is making VERY serious charges against Suhail Khan. Charges don’t get much more serious than what he is accusing him of. Prudence would dictate that this is a matter for the courts to decide.

    That said, I am well aware of the court costs involved. If Suhail Khan could not afford the costs I am somewhat confident that he could raise the necessary funds through donations. With luck he may find an eager beaver lawyer who would take such a high profile case Pro bono publico, to be in the limelight and to see the justice prevailed.

    The danger in not suing him is that he is giving Gaffney airtime that he does not deserve. In a very real sense he is empowering Gaffney through these repeated exchanges.

  • Syed

    Stephen G. Parker said, “many Muslim immigrants to the U. S. A. find our Constitution to be more “Islamic” than the Muslim countries from which they came. ”

    shhhh… If the loons get a hint of this they will be screaming, “SEE CREEPING SHARIA …” 😉

  • Daniel

    Frank Gaffney strikes me very MaCarthyesque. He is a paranoid little man that has no sense of shame, attacking fellow Americans as traitors with zero evidence. Frankly, he should be sued for libel.

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  • Mosizzle

    “I agree. The more I read these articles on Loonwatch, the more attractive your country is to me – loonwarts, and all.”

    Yeah. It’s weird. The more I read this site, even though that involves seeing some extreme American Islamophobia, America doesn’t seem like such a bad place. The Muslims are still better off than Europe and more integrated into society. The Constitution and the early American country definitely reminds me of the state the Holy Prophet had created in Medina 🙂

    Are there any American Muslims wishing they lived in Europe? Probably not.

    Too bad America had to ruin it all by meddling in the Middle East after WWII.

  • Do you know how much court cases cost Mr Kufir? Unlike people like Mr Spenser, Suhail Khan doesn’t have a rich sugar daddy to bankroll him, nor would he gain much from such a court case other than wasted time, lawyer fees and maybe some ‘compensation’ if Mr Gaffney has any money, which I doubt he does. The result in the end would be the same, Mr Gaffeny and his cronies would still rattle on. Far better to just dispute the thing in the media and then, as others have said, take him to court if he doesn’t cease and desist. I’m not a big fan of running to the courts and expecting them to solve everything for me.

  • Masa

    Stephen G. Parker Says:

    “He maintains that many Muslim immigrants to the U. S. A. find our Constitution to be more “Islamic” than the Muslim countries from which they came.”

    I agree. The more I read these articles on Loonwatch, the more attractive your country is to me – loonwarts, and all. I find that the arguments which suggest that ‘Muslims want to take over America and take away our freedoms, etc’ to be wild accusations and just plain silly. I’m a Muslim living in a Muslim country, and I wish MY country had a constitution like yours! It feels more akin to the idea and ideals of Medina, IMHO.

    It was just sad to see that nobody pressed for ‘WHY’ the 9/11 attacks – or any terrorist attacks, for that matter – really happened. It was at such amazing alacrity that Islam became the scapegoat; the reason behind all the terror. And the conversation this past decade has been about ‘why Islam hates us so’. It’s as if ‘Islam hates America’ – ‘the terrorists attacked us because their religion told them to’.

    It’s crazy how many people simply swallowed that BS hook, line and sinker. And everyone’s acting like politics and economics have nothing whatsoever to do with all this. And ten years on, the conversation is still pretty much the same.

    Remember what Yoda said, (US of) America, “Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”

  • Mosizzle

    ” but if someone was making false accusations about me in a very public forum, I’d have them in court faster than they could blink”

    What if the “someone” was a Danish newspaper and the false accusations were in the form of cartoons…

  • Mosizzle

    “I don’t know about you folks, but if someone was making false accusations about me in a very public forum, I’d have them in court faster than they could blink. Am I missing something here?”

    It seems kind of childish to just take him to court. It’s more professional I suppose to confront him rather than punish him for what he might have said. Plus, the Conservatives will get super mad if Khan did that. They’ll make connections that just don’t exist. For example, the money Khan will get will not be compensation but “Jizya”. Pamela Geller will be quick to term it “legal Jihad”. And of course, defenders of Western civilisation will moan about Muslims not respecting “Freedom of Speech”. Oh and something about Sharia Law.

    It’s too early to say. Khan might end up suing Gaffney anyway if he continues (and we know he will).

    If we Muslims started suing people everytime we are slandered then we would all be millionaires.

  • VileKufir

    I don’t put any credence into what Gaffney is babbling about, however I am puzzled why Suhail Khan doesn’t just sue him for slander/libel. Why go on TV to “debate” him? What is the point? Theoretically, suing could serve to shut Gaffney up – for good.

    I don’t know about you folks, but if someone was making false accusations about me in a very public forum, I’d have them in court faster than they could blink. Am I missing something here?

  • JD

    Lol love the logic here……

    Khan says Gaffany has no proof Crazy Uncle Gaffany says there no proof is not true ..

  • MrIslamanswersback

    These silly bigots are going to be the down fall of america. I hope more Americans can see through the stupidity of these sorry ass bigots,and leave them by the waste side.

  • Moorishamerican

    Funny, it hasn’t been the Muslims infiltrating every aspect of American life for the last hundred years.

  • WOW!!!! the Republicans are so afraid that they will turn in on themselves and attack one of there own including his family. I weep for the future if these people ever get control of the Senate, and the Presidency.

  • Frank Gaffney is plainly just another promoter of misinformation. Even if Suhail Khan’s father was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood (and I’ll accept Mr. Khan’s statement that he was not), that would not matter in the least. The Muslim Brotherhood is NOT listed as a terrorist organization by the U.S. Government (see http://terrorism.about.com/od/politicalislamterrorism/a/MuslimBrothers.htm – and http://www.cfr.org/publication/9248/does_the_muslim_brotherhood_have_ties_to_terrorism.html – for instance); and it has renounced terrorism at least since the 1970s. Terrorist groups like “Al Qaeda” have denounced the Muslim Brotherhood precisely because the MB does not share their violent methodology. The MB DOES seek to make Sharia the foundation of Muslim States – but by political means, using the democratic process. They are also dedicated to social welfare. I personally like to visit the MB web site occasionally ( http://www.ikhwanweb.com/ ), and have found nothing there that is terribly offensive (unless one thinks Islam itself is “offensive” – which I do not).

    As for Imam Feisal Rauf’s book “What’s Right With Islam Is What’s Right With America”, I believe that was the first Muslim book I read when I began “investigating” Islam about a year ago. That book convinced me that Islam is not at all incompatible with the US Constitution; in fact the principles of Islam are virtually one and the same with the US Constitution. Whatever differences exist are relatively minor and can be overcome without repudiating either one. At the very least one can say with confidence that Imam Rauf believes that to be the case. He maintains that many Muslim immigrants to the U. S. A. find our Constitution to be more “Islamic” than the Muslim countries from which they came. That certainly doesn’t sound like an attempt to overthrow our Constitutional “democracy”! 😆

    After listening to people like Frank Gaffney, one needs to do what is written in Sura 49:6 of the Qur’an: “Believers, if a troublemaker brings you news, check it first, in case you wrong others unwittingly and later regret what you have done”.

  • NassirH

    I know this may sound harsh, but Gaffney belongs in psychiatric ward, not on CNN.

  • john

    Please stop, Frank, you are beginning to scare the children.

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