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Terry Jones Actually Burns a Qur’an and No One Notices

Crazy old Terry Jones went ahead with his Qur’an burning which he dubbed as an “International judge the Koran Day” after he said he wouldn’t “burn a Koran.” 30 people showed up and they burnt one Koran…and then…everyone went home.

Koran burnt in Florida church

GAINESVILLE, Florida — A controversial US evangelical preacher oversaw the burning of a copy of the Koran in a small Florida church after finding the Muslim holy book “guilty” of crimes.

The burning was carried out by pastor Wayne Sapp under the supervision of Terry Jones, who last September drew sweeping condemnation over his plan to ignite a pile of Korans on the anniversary of September 11, 2001 attacks.

Sunday’s event was presented as a trial of the book in which the Koran was found “guilty” and “executed.”

The jury deliberated for about eight minutes. The book, which had been soaking for an hour in kerosene, was put in a metal tray in the center of the church, and Sapp started the fire with a barbecue lighter.

The book burned for around 10 minutes while some onlookers posed for photos.

Jones had drawn trenchant condemnation from many people, including US President Barack Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, over his plan to burn the Muslim holy book in September.

He did not carry out his plan then and vowed he never would, saying he had made his point.

But this time, he said he had been “trying to give the Muslim world an opportunity to defend their book,” but did not receive any answer.

He said he felt that he couldn’t have a real trial without a real punishment.

The event was open to the public, but fewer than 30 people attended.

Life in the normally quiet city of Gainesville is centered around the University of Florida. And while there were public protests against Jones’ 9/11 activities, this event was largely ignored.

Jadwiga Schatz, who came to show support for Jones, expressed concern that Islam was growing in Europe.

“These people, for me, are like monsters,” she said. “I hate these people.”

Jones said he considered this event a success.

“This is a once-in-a-lifetime experience,” he said.

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  • “Which economic school of thought are the above from?”

    Irrelevant and stupid comment. I’m not surprised you made it though, looks like we have yet another thing you can’t back up bob.

  • NassirH

    BTW Bob, what do you seek to gain from making retarded comments? Is trolling and hating Muslims a hobby for you? May I suggest something more constructive?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatric_hospital

  • Mosizzle

    “Which economic school of thought are the above from?”

    Look, Bob, you made the claim that he is a Leftist. You made the claim, the burden of proof is on you. So prove to us that he is a leftist, and while you do so, please explain why a leftist has such a hatred of all lefties and some, if not most, of his policies are characteristic of European right-wing parties (which are far different to the American right

    Now run along and do that because no one else wants to play your silly game.

  • NassirH

    Why, does he support small government, lower taxes, cutting government services?

    What position of his places him firmly in far right territory?

    Wonderful strawman you have there. Geert Wilders is part of the far right because wants to tax the hijab, ban the Quran, his party suggested banning immigrants from soccer clubs in order to stop “Islamization,” etc. The modern far right is associated with virulent anti-Muslim bigotry and Wilders is a case in point.

  • JustBob

    – Infringement of civil liberties of Muslims and other minorities

    – Calling for deportation of above minorities

    – Scapegoating above minorities for his problems

    Which economic school of thought are the above from?

  • Mosizzle

    You’re actually serious, Bob? You actually think that Geert Wilders is part of the evil Left?

    Everyone sees him as right-wing. They just wonder whether he is far-right or centre-right.
    As for his policies, Euroscepticism and anti-immigration are generally right wing ideas. And the fact that he hates the Left gives him away as well.

    “Ladies and gentlemen, make no mistake: The Left is facilitating Islamization. Leftists, liberals, are cheering for every new shariah bank being created, for every new shariah mortgage, for every new islamic school, for every new shariah court. Leftists consider Islam as being equal to our own culture. Shariah law or democracy? Islam or freedom? It doesn’t really matter to them. But it does matter to us. The entire leftist elite is guilty of practising cultural relativism. Universities, churches, trade unions, the media, politicians. They are all betraying our hard-won liberties.”

  • “What position of his places him firmly in far right territory?”

    – Infringement of civil liberties of Muslims and other minorities

    – Calling for deportation of above minorities

    – Scapegoating above minorities for his problems

    Seems enough to me and I haven’t even started. Now get your arse back to defending your points on the other thread or shall we take it that you concede you were wrong?

  • JustBob

    Geert Wilders is a leftist? Wtf? Yeah, and I’m your friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man. Can you sell troll? Good grief, I thought they banned this idiot.

    Why, does he support small government, lower taxes, cutting government services?

    What position of his places him firmly in far right territory?

  • Generation MuslYm

    Wow Dan, calm done. I can definitely understand why anyone wouldn’t have something nice to say about Pakistan. I agree it is not in good shape and a lot of the Pakistanis can be very arrogant on many issues and very closed minded when discussing religious topics. I know there are a lot of messed up things going in that country, and I despise it as much as you do. But Pakistan is not the only culprit here. Look at countries like Saudi Arabia. Would you rather live in a country that is ruled by an aristocratic regime that does not tolerate any dissent? At least in Pakistan you have some form of a democratic government and has a good potential to change for the best through nonviolent means. Saudi Arabia I see a dark road ahead in its future.
    Look at Iran, you think I have any respect fort that loud mouth pep squeak Ahmadinijad or uneducated mullahs?

  • Khushboo

    ^well, I can’t speak for all but all the Pakistanis I know (family and friends) hate the Taliban and think dictators like Saddam, Qadaffi, and Mubarak are scum. Some of us in the states and other countries also boycotted FB for a week only due to the blasphemous cartoon and we’re certainly within our rights to do that, not that it had much impact sadly. People did vote for PPP but then they didn’t have a choice and were stuck with loser Zardari. I also don’t care for the uppity b/c they haven’t done anything with their money except party and then we have the opposite extreme who are too conservative and narrow-minded. Majority are poor and uneducated. We’re still a young country and do have potential to change for the better if we ever get the right people in power. We have all kinds of people but we really shouldn’t generalize. I guess you’re speaking out of bad experiences but my experience there has been pretty good so far.

  • Dan

    @Khushboo: “Dan, do you still live in Pakistan? My cousins live there and I keep in touch with them via facebook. Where did you get this FB info from? Yes, there are concerns i.e. corrupt politicians and uneducated/bigoted people, recent blasphemy issue, etc. but that doesn’t make me anti-Pakistani. I hope it makes changes soon but there are many people and things there to love. I just pray they don’t become like Afghanistan did b/c of the Taliban invasion.”

    Sorry for the late response. No I don’t live in Pakistan. The FB ban I was referencing to was from last year during the cartoon fiasco (which was only temporary luckily), which I felt was stupid and idiotic and only shows how much power those uneducated mullahs have and how spineless Pakistanis are to combat them. I will never curse Jinnah but I do feel that creating Pakistan was a mistake on his part. And let’s be honest, the fact is that a majority of Pakistanis lack critical thinking skills and jump on any bandwagon to assure their anti-American stance by supporting dictators like Saddam Hussein and praying for the return of the Taliban in Afghanistan in spite of the atrocities they committed. And the government only represents the people, so as far as I’m concerned, it’s the Pakistani people themselves that are also part of the problem. And don’t get me started on the rich elite hypocrites who listen to Pakistani versions of Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck like Zaid Hamid and Ahmed Qureshi and then go in mixed gatherings in their local cafés afterwards. If there’s a Muslim country who will blow things out of proportion and contribute to the downward image of Islam and Muslims, it is Pakistan. Once Pakistanis stop claiming to be the “torchbearers of Islam” while making life a living Hell for its minorities, then perhaps they can get somewhere.

  • Rob

    “It was just a trick to make us say something that would then allow him to drag this conversation into something totally irrelevant.”

    Bingo. Something along the lines of “err…well, to me, that sounds like Islam..err..”

  • Cynic

    *spell

  • Cynic

    Geert Wilders is a leftist? Wtf? Yeah, and I’m your friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man. Can you sell troll? Good grief, I thought they banned this idiot.

  • Mosizzle

    It was just a trick to make us say something that would then allow him to drag this conversation into something totally irrelevant.

    As usual.

  • NassirH

    Seriously, the meaning is pretty self-explanatory. But alas, I wouldn’t expect someone of Bob’s mental caliber to put two words together and infer the obvious meaning.

  • Mosizzle

    “Define ‘far-right’”

    Being more right-wing than is acceptable.

  • JustBob

    Also, Nazism was far-right and reactionary, just like JingoistBob.

    Define ‘far-right’.

  • NassirH

    Also, Nazism was far-right and reactionary, just like JingoistBob.

  • Mosizzle

    Looks like Bob didn’t watch the trial of the Quran. In the final 10 minutes, Jones explains that some people had been telling him that banning the Quran would be better. He recognised that due to the Constitution this would be “difficult”.

    However, he said, Mein Kampf has been banned in Europe for the public’s good, then why can’t the Quran be banned?

    Terry Jones is a Leftist.

  • NassirH

    “Leftists in the Netherlands banned Mein Kampf and Wilders is trying to ban the Koran. Same difference.”

    I can’t tell if you’re getting more stupid or more bigoted, or is it both? Same difference, regardless.

  • Saladin

    JustBob Says:

    “I’ll concede Geert Wilders is a Leftist.

    Leftists in the Netherlands banned Mein Kampf and Wilders is trying to ban the Koran. Same difference.”

    No it not the same difference The Qu’ran religious scripture whether you agree or disagree with it has multiple understandings of it and you have to twist and take it out of context to get hatred from it, it does contain the type hatred found in Mein Kampf it is absurd to even compare the two.

  • “I’ll concede Geert Wilders is a Leftist.”

    Let’s hope that was sarcasm, I don’t think anyone can tell anymore.

    “Leftists in the Netherlands banned Mein Kampf and Wilders is trying to ban the Koran. Same difference.”

    Mein Kampf = crappy book that I had to read once, basically one man’s rant against the world. Formed the basis of Nazism and incites hatred against people *no mater how you look at it, read it or twist it*. Thus has good grounds to be banned (though I wouldn’t becuase I think it’s a good example about how stupid extremists are).

    Qu’ran = nothing like Mein Kampf. Can only do anything ‘evil’ like incite hatred if you really try and twist it as you and OBL and others manage to with your selective, unqualified and junk tafsirs. Thus has no grounds to be banned.

    Not same difference. Observe as above points are ignored and you plow on anyway.

  • Mosizzle

    “I’ll concede Geert Wilders is a Leftist.”

    Lay off the crack. Bob is just shocked that some fool who wants to infringe on freedom of speech is actually on his side of the fence.

    “Same difference.”

    If you have a principle that there should be absolute freedom of speech and that even Nazi crap can be freely distributed, then you stick to those principles and not make exceptions because someone is Mooslim.

    I think it’s ironic that the “Champion of Free Speech” wants to ban a book.

    Why not just condemn him or accept his ideas? Why move the goalposts?

  • Rob

    “I’ll concede Geert Wilders is a Leftist.”

    lol. nope.

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