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The Nuclear Card

Torgerson says Rep. Ellison doesn’t see the U.S. Constitution as ‘supreme’

Posted on 29 June 2011 by Amago

Torgerson says Rep. Ellison doesn’t see the U.S. Constitution as ‘supreme’

By Paul Schmelzer


MSNBC’s The Ed Show on MSNBC turned its focus on Minnesota’s Fifth Congressional District race as candidate Lynne Torgerson spoke with Rev. Al Sharpton about incumbent Rep. Keith Ellison last night. The contentious back and forth centered on Torgerson’s claim that Ellison, a Muslim, doesn’t hold the U.S. Constitution “supreme” over Shariah law. Her beef: Ellison said the U.S. Constitution is the “bedrock” of American law, but didn’t say it was “supreme.”

Torgerson announced her candidacy last week on the Tea Party Nation website, where she called Ellison a “radical Islamist” who “fails to oppose banning Islamic Sharia law in the United States.”  Ellison responded, stating in an email to supporters that “Torgerson intends to run a campaign based on hate, division, and fear. Just like in 2010, we’re not going to let our opponent’s divisive rhetoric set the tone of this campaign.”

On The Ed Show, Sharpton asked Torgerson, “What evidence do you have that he’s not committed to the Constitution?”

Torgerson replied, stating that she’s “not anti-Muslim in any way, shape or form,” before going on to say, “Mr. Congressman Ellison has been long been associated with the most extremist groups around. He has close ties to CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic relations, which was a named co-conspirator to funding terrorism in the Holy Land Foundation trial—”

Sharpton interrupted her to again ask her whether she has evidence to back her claim that the congressman doesn’t hold the Constitution “supreme” or whether she’s “fearmongering and demagoguing to get votes.”

She says Ellison “refused” to answer the question, but Sharpton noted that in a clip played on the show and credited to Torgerson’s campaign Ellison answers it.

“I believe that the United States Constitution, which has been amended well over 25 times, is the bedrock of American law,” Ellison said in the clip. “This whole movement to ban Shariah — bills like this have been introduced in 22 states — in my view is a very thinly disguised effort at religious persecution of people that are Muslim.”

To that, Torgerson said, “Actually, what he said is the U.S. Constitution is the bedrock of American law. That does not answer the question of what should be supreme currently… Mr. Ellison actually evaded the question.”

Ellison’s office sent a statement to The Ed Show underscoring his stance and taking Torgerson to task for her “extreme” and “intolerant” rhetoric:

I took an oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees freedom of religion for all Americans. Religious acceptance is a deeply rooted American value, and regardless of political persuasion, it’s a value we must protect.

It’s too bad that someone can obtain so much attention based on their intolerant rhetoric, especially when unemployment is above 9 percent. On the other hand,  the nation will be able to see how extreme the rhetoric has become. I call on all Americans to reject religious intolerance and embrace our constitution which upholds the promise of liberty and justice for all people.

One other question Sharpton asked: Since Ellison got 68 percent of the vote in 2010, compared to Torgerson’s nearly 4 percent, “Is 68 percent of your district radical Islamic sympathizers?”

“No sir, I wouldn’t say so,” she said. Asked why so many people voted for Ellison, she answered, “I don’t believe people yet know what his associations and his actual agenda is.”

Torgerson, who ran as an independent against Ellison in 2010, tells Roll Call that this time around she’ll be running as a Republican.

Here’s the exchange, via Chris Steller at Patch.com Fridley:

  • Boostava

    Hey Lynne, the 1980′s called. They begged you to keep that ugly hairdo, because they don’t want it anymore.

  • http://twitter.com/modestgrrl @modestgrrl

    Oh HER! I knew I had heard her name from somewhere before. She was one of the douchebags congratulating Sherry Marquez for her derogatory, anti Muslim statements last year. I saw her kissing Marquez’s virtual butt several times on Marquez’s facebook page, before Marquez finally realized she should make her wall private.

  • Dehnus

    Don’t laugh to loud #1, this is how it starts. This is also how it started in the Netherlands, politicians crave power, and how they get it they don’t care about.

    There is footage of Geert Wilders condemning Pim Fortuyn for being “Anti Muslim”, but when he found out he can get more power by being even worse and more like a hick in his language he took it with both hands. We are being played for by both left and right to maintain the status quo of power to the powerful and money to the wealthy. There is no other reason then that. These people will do anything and kill/ruin anybody to get what they crave, including wars and genocides.

  • http://peakofelephants.tumblr.com Peakofelephants
  • http://www.yellow-stars.com eslaporte

    Unfortunately – some on the right seem to think that “patriotism” is limited only to conservative, white, Christians. Since Congressman Ellison is neither conservative, white, Christian, he cannot be a real American patriot!

    The Constitution is NOT a suicide pact! It’s Bill of Rights, the First Amendment, does not actually mean what it says? Since Muslims are not “loyal Americans,” this is questioning Congressman Ellison’s patriotism because he is a Muslims through hateful myths about Muslim-Americans. Also – I do recall that the Constitution states that “there shall be NO religious test for office.” This is a roundabout way of applying a religious test, but with Islamophobia as a filter-test.

    AND – “I don’t hate Muslims, but millions of Muslims cause problems”– this interview reminds me of Geert Wilders’ interview in Copenhagen a few years ago. When pressed for evidence — this lady (like Wilders) cannot produce evidence for claims…as with all Islamophobic myths.

  • Julieann Wozniak

    Is this woman smoking crack? Taking her anti-crazy meds? Joking aside, candidates like her actually end up holding public office, ascending to the limits of their incompetence, and that is the greatest threat to our democracy. Not a patriot like Mr. Ellison.

  • http://mystic444.wordpress.com Stephen G. Parker

    Lynne Torgerson’s “righteous indignation” is just another example of an absurd war over words. Does Keith Ellison regard the Constitution as the “Supreme” law of the land, or “only” the “bedrock” of our laws? That’s a distinction without a difference. It’s like trying to argue over the perennial religious question of “free will”. Suppose someone said that he believes in “predestination” while his opponent “only” believes in “foreordination”, and claims they’re two entirely different things. Who would take such an argument seriously?

    “Supreme” refers to the highest authority, while “bedrock” refers to solid rock which forms the lowest layer on which something is founded – in this case, the most basic humanly devised foundation for all human law within the USA. Whether you call the Constitution the highest or lowest, the meaning is the same. There is no other human law, lawgiver, or law enforcer in the USA which can supersede the Constitution. Not the President, Congress, or the Supreme Court; nor any State or local government.

    However, what person who has any belief in God is going to assert that GOD must “play second fiddle” to our Constitution? That the Constitution is Supreme even over the law of God? I doubt any Christian supporters of Torgerson would be ready to make that assertion. They just want it to be the Bible that has supremacy rather than “Sharia”. :lol:

    The “founding fathers” of the USA certainly asserted that there is a “higher law” which takes precedence even over the Constitution. The Declaration of Independence says that it is “the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God” which gives authority to particular governments; and that human rights are given by the Creator. Governments are established in order the secure for their citizens the rights given by the Creator; and when governments fail in their purpose, they can be replaced.

    It is for this reason that the Constitution can be amended. Even that “supreme’ law is not so “supreme” that it can’t be changed if and when the citizens who are governed by it discern that it either is in conflict with “higher law”, or no longer adequately protects the rights of the citizens in the face of new or unforeseen developments.

    But Mr. Ellison has given no indication that he finds any such inadequacy in the Constitution and wishes it to be “replaced” by Sharia law. Lynne should quit arguing over words and just come out and admit that she opposes Keith Ellison because he’s a Muslim; she’s a hater of Muslims, an Islamophobe.

  • Yusuf

    She is grabbing for attention. She can never win in Minneapolis because it is very liberal. Also, Minneapolis has a large Somali and Palestinian population and being anti-Muslim isn’t the way to get votes. I mean the best voted Pizza place in Minneapolis is a halal Afghan restaurant.

  • mike

    deccal, you should stop your mozlem hating for a minute and realize the state of disrepair this woman’s hair is in!!!!

  • http://www.yellow-stars.com eslaporte

    David Bowie hairdo … from light socket … also fried her brains!

  • deccal

    So the race huckster sharpton has joined up with ellison, why am i not shocked.

  • mike

    How can she expect to win a congressional race if she cant even afford a decent hairstylist!! seriously.. cockatoo and david bowie.. haha totally on point!!!

  • Khushboo

    haha Rev. Sharpton asked 3 times for crazy-haired Torgerson for evidence against Rep. Ellison which she still couldn’t provide. I wonder where she got her law degree from? Since she didn’t mention it, I bet she never received a J.D degree. That’s my evidence ya’ll!

  • Khushboo

    ^oops sorry, wrong place!

  • Khushboo

    Allen West is a disgrace to his own race! Doesn’t he know that by going against one minority group of people, Muslims, he’s helping the white supremacists to soon go after the next group of minorities (Jews, gays, African Americans, Asians, etc.) once Muslims are out of their way. He reminds me of Dave Chappelle’s blind, black KKK member skit. LOL

  • Abdullah67

    How many Christians would say the Constitution is “supreme” over the Bible?

    And wow!…These cowards are labeling CAIR a radical group? Anyone with a shred of knowledge knows how much of a stretch that is. I have plenty of criticisms of CAIR, but to say they are radical or extremist is just an outright lie.

    I notice a lot of people pulling the “Holy Land Foundation” card. The reality is that Muslims donated to that charity to help needy families in Palestine. If some of those funds ended up in the hands of Hamas, you can’t label every donor as a “terrorist supporter”. I wonder how many Red Cross or Christian based donations end up in the hands of shady groups in war torn countries.

  • http://peakofelephants.tumblr.com Peakofelephants

    Seriously, she looks like David Bowie in “Labyrinth”…

  • http://peakofelephants.tumblr.com Peakofelephants

    Um, did she put her finger in an electric socket or what?

  • Kal

    She looks like a cockatoo with that hairstyle.

  • mindy1

    Oh good lord, who would vote for this person D:

  • Michael Akkawi

    I’m sure she lied about the last question. She’s using Taqiyya to avoid embarrassment LOL

    BTW, this woman is not qualified to appear publicly. She can’t even lie well :D

  • MrIslamanswersback

    LOL You could tell she was nervous and had no answer. And Sharpton Handled her well.These damn bigots are pitiful. Sorry ass 4% vote getting loser!!!!

  • Al

    Sharpton totally roasted her.
    lol

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