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Blog Wars: Pamela Geller vs. Gates of Vienna and the EDL?

Posted on 12 July 2011 by Mooneye

Robert Spencer next to his Perpetual Serf Pamela Geller

It has been a while since we addressed the blog wars, the phenomenon in which anti-Muslim hate bloggers such as Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Debbie Schlussel etc. fight with fellow travelers in bigotry or individuals who have reformed themselves of their hate-mongering.

In the past we saw eruptions of in-fighting when Charles Johnson of LGF denounced Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller for allying with neo-Fascist Euro supremacist politicians such as Geert Wilders (the website Gates of Vienna vs. the World vs. LGF covered the events). Then there was the tussle between Debbie Schlussel and Pamela Geller/Robert Spencer, (Spencer at one time called Schlussel a “freedom fighter, for her part Schlussel refers to Geller as “Scamela”), and not too long ago Andrew Bostom and Robert Spencer flung accusations of plagiarism and insults at one another.

Now it seems we have further cracks in the radical anti-Muslim right. Pamela Geller, who has been supporting and defending the EDL for quite some time, calling them “Defenders of Western Civilization” finally made some critical remarks about them due to their open anti-Semitism:

[I]t has become increasingly clear that the EDL has morphed and diverged from its original course. They now have clearly been infiltrated by the worst kind of influences, something that had successfully staved off for years, and they’re no longer staving it off. Roberta Moore, the leader of the Jewish Division, has broken with the EDL…the EDL has done a Charles Johnson…Now that the person whom I most trusted in the EDL, Roberta Moore, has resigned, as she was increasingly uncomfortable with the neo-fascists that had infiltrated the administration of the group, I too am withdrawing my support from the EDL.

Can we just say, “I told you so?!”

Of course, Roberta Moore is also a strident bigot, she was exposed by our European correspondent Remora for comparing Islam to “nazism,” calling Islam a “cult,” and saying Muslims come to the West and live off of “government support.”

It took Pamela Geller ages to realize the hateful character of the EDL, it was only when the gross, malignant and open anti-Semitism of the group became undeniable that she distanced herself from them. She was and is unwilling to condemn their and Roberta Moore’s anti-Muslim bigotry because she shares in the same hatred.

For her condemnation Geller was rebuked by Gates of Vienna, an anti-Muslim site that was (formerly?) an ally of hers. They expressed shock and “astonishment” that Geller would condemn the EDL, and wrote an open letter addressing Geller and asking her to “reconsider your deplorable words and withdraw them.” Numerous anti-Muslim hate sites signed the letter.

How long until Geller and co. suffer further setbacks in their fight against “the Mooslims?” Maybe Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller will be trading shots at each other in the near future.

  • http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com

    EDL ‘Sought Funding from Terrorist Group’

    Alan Cleverley, ‘Commanding Officer’ of the English Defence League’s former Combined Forces (CxF) Division has publically stated that the EDL were not happy with the Jewish Division’s alliance with Terrorist Organisation, the Jewish Task Force, because EDL Leadership were secretly trying to obtain funding from them for themselves.

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    The Jewish Task Force is classified as a terrorist organisation in both the United States and Israel and EDL’s Jewish Divisional leaders, extremists Roberta Moore and Robert Bartholomeus have both stated their full support for the organisation and their actions.

    JTF leader Victor Vancier, commonly referred to by his Hebrew name, Chaim Ben Pesach was notorious for his criticisms of black culture and his views on homosexuality and was imprisoned in the United States for the firebombing of several cars, for a pipe bomb attack on an FBI informers car and the firebombing of a hall where the Soviet State Symphony Orchestra were performing.

    Anti EDL groups have been warning about Moore and Bartholomeus’ extremism for months but it has largely been igorned by EDL Leadership and their extremism has continued on the Jewish Division’s Facebook Group unabated. Only last week Bartholomeus endorsed the Norway Terror Attacks and denounced the children who got killed as ‘scum’ and called for the rape of EDL female members who did not agree with him.

    The full conversation can be found here.

    read more here
    http://www.edlnews.co.uk/edl-news/edl-sought-funding-from-terrorist-group

  • Nur Alia

    Ever notice something with these people..

    When they get together in masse to preach thier anti Islamic rantings, they are waving Israeli flags next to the emblems and flags of thier bigoted groups.

    I know there are good Israeli people and just like Americans..good Israeli people do not condone, and protest and speak against some of the violent actions thier government takes against others when and if they are allowed to do so.

    I think that those people…the people who belive in right, get angry at haters and bigots wave thier national flag while preaching hate and intolarance.

    If we are ever going to end the strife between Muslims and Jews that has been created to make a territorial dispute complicated on purpose, we, the Muslims will have to understand that…because these haters wave the flags of the US and Israel, they in no way represent the heart of the people of those nations.

    We…the Muslims can take the lead on this, and not always invoke Jew and Muslim when we talk about the bigots, haters, and warmongers that make industry of this vile culture.

    I know it is off the topic, but it is just an observation.

  • Michael Akkawi

    Blind people will always collide as they make their way down the path of hatred!

  • marco

    They will all turn on each other eventually. They will self-destruct. It will be a joy to watch on the side-lines.

  • Sam Seed

    No Geller, the EDL are your friends that’s why they wave Israeli flags. As George Galloway would say ‘Put that in your pipe and smoke it’.

  • KnowingTheTruth

    I enjoy it when these Anti-Muslims fight each other.

  • ahmed

    Pamela Geller is a hate-monger simple as she is a fascist and a genocide denier. I will dance when all these Islamophobes start bickering on each other.

  • Anj

    Let me correct you there Persian
    There are three types of people that the European establishment will never acceppt:
    non whites, Jews and Muslims.

    Spot on!

  • Persian

    There are three types of people that Europeans will never accept: non-whites, jews and muslims.

  • Mosizzle

    Somehow “I told you so” just doesn’t do it. We have been telling these morons since day 1 that the EDL is a pile of racist, xenophobic, Islamophobic, anti-Semitic, fascist shit. Only someone as dumb as Geller would not have realised that these people were Nazi sympathisers:

    http://www.indymedia.org.uk/images/2011/04/478043.jpg

    Geller is now claiming that the rank and file of the EDL is still good but some bad eggs got into the administration. Errmm…no. The leaders have always been this crazy. Their token brown member (and spokesman) openly called for Muslims to be burnt on his Facebook profile and as for the men who partake in their demonstrations well…the pictures say it all– they’re all drunk, violent and stupid.

    Pam, only someone as stupid and as allergic to truth as you could have taken this long to realise the EDL hates you for being Jewish just as much as it hates Mooslims.

  • corey

    if that day comes al I am having popcorn.

  • Al

    “Maybe Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller will be trading shots at each other in the near future.”

    That will be a great day! Let’s hope it’s sooner than later

  • http://www.amazon.com/Islamic-Science-European-Renaissance-Transformations/dp/0262195577 Islamic Science and the Making of the European Renaissance

    The drecks like the SIOA attract Drecks like the EDL. Nothing new.

    What about her court case with Rifqa’s lawyer? Can anyone elaborate on possible outcomes, and how long the case will be, and the appeal procedure if any, and what Geller may suffer. Is this the same case that Omar Tarazi is suing too? or is that another one?

  • Noor

    Robert Spencer was on a new Documentary called ‘The Life of Muhammad’ and he tried to spew his usual hateful banality…only to be proven wrong by the amazing journalistic prowess of Rageh Omar! what an absolute cretin…mind you, i recommend you all watch it if you are in the UK the Episode is on here http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b012mkg5/The_Life_of_Muhammad_The_Seeker/

  • Hatethehaterz

    That’s the thing about mindless, unwarranted hate and bigotry. It just propogates more hate. Today they hate Islam and Muslims. Tomorrow it will be each other. I’m always happy to hear these degenerates turning on one another.

  • Mango

    Lets see if Geller can start backtracking on all the other crazy shit she has said.

  • mindy1

    Good lord, this movement will self destruct soon :P

  • Ustadh

    Pamela Geller is a vile cretin, enough said.

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