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Pamela Geller Edits Post to Conceal Violent Rhetoric in ‘Email from Norway’

Pamela Geller Edits Post to Conceal Violent Rhetoric in ‘Email from Norway’

by Charles Johnson

In June 2007, “counter-jihad” blogger Pamela Geller posted the following Email from Norway, from a reader who sounds a lot like the Oslo terrorist, Anders Behring Breivik.

This is what the post looks like today:

I am running an email I received from an Atlas reader in Norway. It is devastating in its matter-of-factness.

Well, yes, the situation is worsening. Stepping up from 29 000 immigrants every year, in 2007 we will be getting a total of 35 000 immigrants from somalia, iran, iraq and afghanistan. The nations capital is already 50% muslim, and they ALL go there after entering Norway. Adding the 1.2 births per woman per year from muslim women, there will be 300 000+ muslims out of the then 480 000 inhabitants of that city.

Orders from Libya and Iran say that Oslo will be known as Medina at the latest in 2010, although I consider this a PR-stunt nevertheless it is their plan.

From Israel the hordes clawing at the walls of Jerusalem proclaim cheerfully that next year there will be no more Israel, and I know Israel shrugs this off as do I, and will mount a strike during the summer against all of its enemies in the middle east. This will make the muslims worldwide go into a frenzy, attacking everyone around them.

Before, I thought about emigrating to Britain, Israel, USA, South Africa, etc. for taxes and politics, but instead (although I believe we are the very last generation on earth before the return of God) I will stay and fight for the right to this country and indeed the entire peninsula, for the God-fearing people, just in case this isn’t the end of the world after all. Doesn’t hurt to have a backup plan.

It’s far from impossible to achieve, after all my people has done it every time before, in feats that match the ancient greek, hebrew and british “legends”.

Oslo and the southeast may fall easily, but there are other lines than “state”-borders drawn across this country since long before there was even a single muslim in the world, and we have held them this long, against everyone else too. We are entering a new golden age for my people, and those of a handful other countrys, but only through struggle.

Never fear, Pamela. God is with you too in this coming time.

But Pamela Geller’s guilty conscience is showing again, because as a matter of fact, she edited her post very recently to take out the most incriminating line. The Internet Archive has a copy of the original:

As you can see, the line Geller edited out is:

We are stockpiling and caching weapons, ammunition and equipment. This is going to happen fast.

Google’s cache also has a copy of Geller’s page, captured on June 30, 2011 — and the line about “stockpiling weapons” was still there at that time.

Obviously, Pamela Geller is going through her archives and scrubbing any violent rhetoric related to Norway, and equally obviously, she’s doing it to cover her tracks.

(h/t: po8crg.)

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  • http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com

    Counterjihad Group of Fjordman, Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer Have The Blood of Children Murdered in Norway on Their Hands

    Posted: August 2, 2011 by pibillwarner

    Assassination Attempts On Pres. Barack Obama Continue To Be Fueled By White Supremacists and Right Wing Anti-Muslim Radicals Like Pamela Geller’s SIOA. Just like in the assassinations of Pres. John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Sen. Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King there is a radical element of hate in the USA that seeks the death of Pres. Barack H. Obama. This radical element of hate in the USA has at it’s forefront right wing groups such as SIOA, FDI, the KKK and other white supremacist skin head groups.

    EXTREME RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVE BLOGS FUEL PLOTS TO ASSASSINATE PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA. All during 2008, Extreme Right Wing Conservative Blogs such as “Atlas Shrugs” by Pamela Geller have called for her readers to help her stop Barack Obama from becoming President of the USA, see comments below from her website and her “Obama Video’s’which she allows to stand on the Internet in this post 9/11 atmosphere of “anticipated reprisals” toward Muslims. See photo above of Pamela Geller with her rifle at target range.

    CENSORSHIP–GOOGLE CENSORING ATLAS SHRUGS , I wonder why, also wonder why the U.S. Secret Service has not paid Pamela Geller a visit ?

    read more here
    http://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/2011/08/02/counterjihad-group-of-fjordman-pamela-geller-and-robert-spencer-have-the-blood-of-children-murdered-in-norway-on-their-hands/

  • http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com

    Bill Warner, the Private investigator who keeps tabs on Pamela Geller has some good updates.

    read more here

    http://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/2011/08/02/al-jazeerah-news-terrorism-in-norway-connections-to-us-extremists-pamela-geller-and-robert-spencer-by-bill-warner/

  • http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com

    Who Inspired Anders Breivik?

    The evidence is in

    by Justin Raimondo, August 08, 2011

    ——–

    I have no doubt that Norwegian law enforcement, if and when they become aware of this particular blog post on GoV, would be very interested to learn the author’s identity. For it certainly seems that if anyone had a clue as to the existence of Breivik’s plot before he went on his rampage, then surely “El Inglés” is a prime suspect.

    —————-

    I would also note that, in the comments section to “On Vigilantism, Part I,” the very first comment is by the now infamous blogger known as “Fjordman,” who was rumored to be somehow involved, and has since revealed his true identity and gone into hiding. Does he condemn the casual references to beating, maiming, and killing? Not at all. Instead he writes:

    “A thought-provoking essay from Inglés, as usual. May I also suggest that we cultivate a form of pan-European ethnic solidarity when it comes to stopping and reversing Third World immigration and removing the Globalist traitor class. Perhaps we can call it “white Zionism.” Since European group solidarity appears to be what the powers-that-be fear the most, perhaps that’s what we should give them. ”An initial step might be boycotting the World Cup in South Africa, in response to the ongoing slaughter of whites there.”

    No one on that thread raised any objections, either: there was some discussion of the value of “random bombings” of mosques, and various other targets. The last comment was a simple question:

    “Where is Part Two, Inglès??”

    There is no “Part Two” posted on Gates of Vienna – unless, of course, it is the news of Breivik’s massacre.

    read more here
    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2011/08/07/who-inspired-anders-breivik/

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    Breivik Inspiration ‘Fjordman’ Reveals Identity

    Charles Johnson Fri Aug 5, 2011

    White nationalist blogger revealed as Peder Jensen

    I strongly encourage any journalists writing about the no-longer anonymous blogger ‘Fjordman’ to actually read what this person has written, because you’ll discover that his disavowals and deflections are designed to cover up not only far right opinions, but overt white supremacism. Over the years, Peder Jensen has become increasingly open about his racism, and it’s quite easy to find examples in his recent writings.

    Here’s the story about Fjordman’s true identity, as he scrambles to delink his views from the mass murderer he inspired: ‘Fjordman’ reveals identity.

    read more here
    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/38977_Breivik_Inspiration_Fjordman_Reveals_Identity

  • http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com

    The Americans Who Inspired the Norwegian Mass Murderer

    Breivik also cited neoconservative Frank Gaffney and his opposition to Turkey joining the European Union. Gaffney’s think tank, the Center for Security Policy, created a website to protest the so-called “Ground Zero Mosque” in Manhattan. He’s also accused President Barack Obama of being a secret agent of the Muslim Brotherhood and claimed radical Muslims have infiltrated the top levels of American government.

    Pamela Geller, author of the blog Atlas Shrugs, is mentioned by Breivik for her postings that attacked the “victory mosque.” Geller is of the belief that Muslims are an inherent threat to American society.

    Brigitte Gabriel is another anti-Muslim activist mentioned in the manifesto. Gabriel has written several books attacking Islam and is a friend of Representative Peter King (R-New York), chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee.

    read more here
    http://www.allgov.com/Top_Stories/ViewNews/The_Americans_Who_Inspired_the_Norwegian_Mass_Murderer_110804

  • http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com

    Did Pam Geller Post Breivik E-mail?

    Jewish-Zionist activist Pamela Gellar denies that self-confessed Norwegian terrorist Anders Breiving Breivik wrote an e-mail to her more than four years ago, where he claimed to be stockpiling munitions for a war against Muslims.

    Breivik’s 2083 is heavily influenced by far-right Neocon writing. As is often the case with copy-paste compilations, it is difficult to assign an accurate lineage to the conglomeration of words and those of compiled authors. However, if 2083 is ever published, the copyrights of David Horowitz and Bat Yeor, Daniel Pipes and Andrew Bostom should be given pride of place. These are the writers who inspired Breivik to commit mass murder.

    read more here
    http://www.therightperspective.org/2011/08/03/did-pam-geller-post-breivik-e-mail/

  • Nur Alia

    A good remedy would be for the victims of this autrocity sue everyone who this guy ‘admired’ the writings of…and those who fund them.

  • Franczeska

    Pamela Geller and the rest all need to do the right thing. Come forward and tell the authorities whatever they know. Innocent human lives are at stake.

  • http://www.yellow.stars.com eslaporte

    Hoi – for those that can read Dutch, the story about Geller and the “email from Norway” is up at Joop.nl. This is also the publication that got threats to take down a cartoon of Wilders as a Nazi camp guard (for those who complain about Danish cartoons…you are hypocrites!)

    Anyhow – use a translator.
    http://www.joop.nl/wereld/detail/artikel/pamela_gellar_publiceerde_brief_van_islamofobe_noorse_wapengek/

  • Mosizzle

    The comments are working now…

  • Mosizzle

    ^They’re off for me as well…

    She must know that the comments section of her pages contain the worst and most violent material.

  • http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com

    Is it me, or does anyone else have a problem accessing Atlas Shrugs comments? Have they been turned off?

    Can someone try as i’m in the middle of collating collections, and suddenly found i can’t access them.

  • HGG

    I think people should use Gawker’s description of Geller more often: Bored rich moron.

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    Glenn Greenwald

    Posted Saturday 30th July 2011
    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/c1v3q8

    In 2007, Pam Geller published a letter from a Muslim hater in Norway that warned of a Muslim takeover and vowed: “We are stockpiling and caching weapons, ammunition and equipment. This is going to happen fast” http://is.gd/cAzcjL

    She recently deleted that line from the post on her site:

    (though it’s still available from the Wayback machine)

    In the comment section to the post at the time, she said she was purposely shielding the identity of the letter-writing — by publishing it anonymously – in order to prevent the writer from being investigated and prosecuted

    If this were an attack by a Muslim group, and a Muslim had something like this on his/her website, the FBI and multiple other groups would be swarming.

  • http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com

    Obama’s whistleblower war suffers two defeats

    http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/07/30/whistleblowers/
    By Glenn Greenwald
    Saturday, Jul 30, 2011

    Here is an issue that needs a lot more scrutiny: Craig Murray, the former British Ambassador to the U.N., and Justin Raimondo, both superbly examine the potential help received by accused Oslo attacker Anders Behring Breivik from the network of Muslim-hating far-right activists. I summarized one aspect of their excellent arguments here (Geller’s deletion of the reference to “stockpiling weapons” in Norway described there occurred this month, apparently in the last 24 hours). In an age where Muslims are swept into intense law enforcement investigations and even prosecutions for even the most tenuous links to those who commit violence, the seemingly pervasive indifference to Breivik’s possible support network is revealing indeed.

  • Farlowe

    “Breivik has also frequently praised the writings of blogger Fjordman.[165] He also endorsed the writings of Australian historian Keith Windschuttle in the 2083 manifesto, as well as former Australian Prime Minister John Howard and Treasurer Peter Costello.” Wiki

    Fair dinkum, Mr Howard and Mr Costello would be horrified.

    “Newspaper Verdens Gang reported that after Breivik bought large amounts of fertiliser from an online shop in Poland, his name was among 60 passed to the Police Security Service (PST) by Norwegian Customs as having used the store to buy products. Speaking to the newspaper, Jon Fitje of PST said the information they found gave no indication of anything suspicious. Despite this, the security service accessed his phone and email but only for 24 hours.” Wiki

    So the police investigated Anders and found nothing unusual. Hmmmmmm.

  • http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com

    Pamela Geller’s lawyer, Yerushalmi, should be on the loon list here,

    ——————
    Behind the anti-Shariah push in America

    http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=145557

    It is not the first time Mr. Yerushalmi has engaged in polemics. In a 2006 essay, he wrote that “most of the fundamental differences between the races are genetic,” and asked why “people find it so difficult to confront the facts that some races perform better in sports, some better in mathematical problem-solving, some better in language, some better in Western societies and some better in tribal ones?” He has also railed against what he sees as a politically correct culture that avoids open discussion of why “the founding fathers did not give women or black slaves the right to vote.”

    On its Web site, the Anti-Defamation League, a prominent Jewish civil rights organization, describes Mr. Yerushalmi as having a record of “anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant and anti-black bigotry.” His legal clients have also drawn notoriety, among them Pamela Geller, an incendiary blogger who helped drive the fight against the Islamic community center and mosque near ground zero.

    A stout man who wears antique wire-rimmed glasses and a thick, white-streaked beard, Mr. Yerushalmi has a seemingly inexhaustible appetite for the arguments his work provokes. “It’s an absurdity to claim that I have ever uttered or taken a position on the side of racism or bigotry or misogyny,” he said.

    When pressed for evidence that American Muslims endorse the fundamentalist view of Shariah he warns against, Mr. Yerushalmi argues that the problem lies with America’s Muslim institutions and their link to Islamist groups overseas. As a primary example, he and others cite a memorandum that surfaced in the federal prosecution of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, a Muslim charity based in Texas whose leaders were convicted in 2008 of sending funds to Hamas.

  • http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com

    The Anti-Islam Blogger and the Weapons-Stockpiling Norwegian

    http://gawker.com/5826208/the-anti+islam-blogger-and-the-weapons+stockpiling-norwegian

    Now, that’s a very interesting email, especially in light of Geller’s vehement rejection of the idea that she or her violent, apocalyptic rhetoric contributed in any way to Breivik’s crime. And yet, sometime after the July 22 shooting, she removed the line about “stockpiling and caching weapons, ammunition and equipment.” (You can still see the original post using the Wayback Machine or in Google’s cache; the excised version is here.)

    Characteristically, Geller didn’t acknowledge the edit until she was called out by Little Green Football’s Charles Johnson and others. Today, in a post entitled “Clarifying the Edit,” she says that the letter is not from Breivik (we’ll take her word for it), and writes that she edited it out of sensitivity concerns “in the light of recent horrific events in Norway.”

    Uh-huh. “Sensitivity concerns” is a much more believable excuse than embarrassment over her admiring publication of an email from a Norwegian with the same violent, xenophobic worldview as Breivik. In fact, we’re sure she’s been in contact with Norwegian authorities regarding her correspondence with a weapons-stockpiling far-right Norwegian “anti-Jihadist”! Probably it’s a false-flag email from a Muslim anyway! As Pamela says, “If anyone incited [Breivik] to violence, it was Islamic supremacists.”

  • NanaO2

    This is my first time hearing those terms of ‘Islamophobe’ or ‘Islamization’ which after the attack in Oslo, one of the local-media brought it up. So I Google those ‘labels’ and how shock I am when I found what that means.

    As someone who born, grow and live in country with biggest numbers of Muslim in this planet, I found myself half-laughing saying “I can’t believe this.” We admired Western such American and Europe, and here, I found that because some of those radical insane madmen came from Muslim they decided to hate all Muslim in this planet including the Islam?

    They kept stating that Muslim is a terrorist. Hm, let’s check this out. I’m a Muslim and 90% of my country citizens are Muslims. Yet we got terrorists that indeed using name of ‘Islam’ but you know what? They came not from our country, but from neighborhood, Malaysia. They bombed Jakarta, they bombed Bali, and they used Sumatra and Java to hide and to train followers they found here.

    You think our polices and counter-terrorists teams are different from them, non-muslim? Au contrary, last time I check through my ex-boyfriend who is a police officer, only few of those officers are not muslims. Yet they do their jobs, they hunted and chased all those terrorists down, trading bullets and even succeeds to kill them on spot.

    So tell me, sirs and madams, why, a nation that believed have lower education and much ‘lesser’ than yours, could be wiser to select which is the right and which is the wrong?

    I need to run for my life twice from bomb-threats on malls, one is close to my university and another is on the capital city of Indonesia, Jakarta. My oldest sister near got killed because she passed by Australian’s embassy where a bomb explode there. Yet, even most of politicians in my place still not yet learn to think about citizens’ wishes, simply think about their own advantages, none of them ever brought religion issue. It seems they are wise enough to never bridge what we called as fundamental etiquette.

    Did by ‘Free speech’ and ‘Free press’ allowed all of those medias and individuals to create propaganda and mislead people led by those haters?

    My nation has free-speech, free-press, but we have rules, etiquettes, to respect each other and not hating one to another. Shouldn’t American as the strongest, richest, smartest, and many ‘-est’ later, could know things better than us who these haters labeled as ‘lesser than them?’ And how come a big enforcement such F.B.I, easily mislead?

    The more they hates ‘Islam’ and ‘Muslim’ in general, the more number of people sympathizing them. That is a very wrong method to fight these criminals. Indonesian Government used different method, instead suspicions and flashing badges with guns, they approached citizens, talked with them.

    60% of terrorists that got caught, the followers in particular, once got interrogate, turned out they have been brain-washed. False imam they have, taught them that to kill even fellow muslim who didn’t follow the correct rules means died in name of Allah. But really, who could judge us better than person next to us? But they did, and yes, we too are a victim.

    We born with multicultural since very beginning, from Sabang to Merauke, from white, yellow till black skin, we have all of them. Yes, there would be clashed between parties, but it seems because we are less-than-smart, we know how to sit down and have peaceful talk and respecting each party, not grab a knife and slashing someone’s throat.

    If those haters encourage a genocide for all muslims, my apology, isn’t that mean, we too have rights to genocide all religions outside Islam in this nation? But we never do so. Not even Communist that terror entire nation with thousands of thousands people got killed in war with them, a real and open war… we never done it.

    By history several times after the freedom in 1945, there were groups that brought ‘Islam’ uprising against governments, how funny that now, our nation held the biggest number of Muslim over 265 million citizens and rising.

    If those haters encouraged other people to stop migration and shunned out all of them who have enter their nations, shouldn’t we too have rights to send all of foreigners that enter our nation? Don’t screaming in angry when we decided to do so.

    It is because your racist mind, you implant seed of hatreds everywhere. Look at your country, struggling to get financial supports, to close their debts. Did they not learn, there will be a nation that would rise up and get all of the attention one day? I know this, as mostly Indonesian started thinking to woo China instead American. Not only they have a lot of moneys which attracted every immigrant, such hatred cases too are not likely came from them, let alone, the expenses are much cheaper.

    China’s items are cheaper, to get education in that place too are cheaper, to live there too are cheaper. If they could offered good quality services and items we seek and wanted, why would we went to U.S. In the end, your nation would get the ‘white-supremacy’ like those haters wanted, but could you face the consequence?

    By that time, no one would care about you. No matter you yell, scream like a lunatic, pointing your fingers to us, we turned our back on you and left. Do you know what that means? No one want to buy your items again. No one want to use your items and services again. And if you keep insist to be heard… shouldn’t we have rights to say, ‘why would we hear you when you never hear us since beginning?’

    ‘Why would we help you when you never help us?’

    ‘Why would we care about you when you never care about us?’

    So yes, I’m not a scholar wannabe, I’m not smart people who love to give comments like this… Pamela something Geller? ‘Your mouth is your tiger’ we took that words to the heart, and thanks to that I prefer to observe in silent, took longer time because ‘less-than-smart’ brain I have, but think about it. Are you America, ready to face the consequence when we decided you are not worth anymore of our attentions?

    You maybe arrogant enough to say you could survive alone, but could you? As the country with biggest number of Muslims, we have our ‘way’ to bring ‘votes’ to our sides. We are nothing but small little country locate in some place in this planet, didn’t worth for your attention, didn’t worth for your care. But continue insulting ‘Islam’ and ‘Muslim’ in general, my, how come, nations that very famous and admired in this planet could be so blind and much fool compare to nations that ‘less-than-smart’ in their point of view?

    How come you can’t use your brain and used your emotion instead? Don’t speak in name of American, for all I know and by history books we learned for 12 years in our nation standard-education, the real American is those people who lived inside small area with poor life. We didn’t need to immigrate, not even those hundred years ago, because we already have lands since beginning. We do have clash, we do have flaws, we do have differences. But we are much better to face those differences by talking respectfully to other party. Don’t say only you who become a victim, we too are a victim. Worse, we are a fellow muslim, yet they keep killing us, everyone outside their groups are evil that is their beliefs. Strangely, isn’t that belief quite similar with these haters beliefs?

    I wonder, could this Pamela something, answer my questions?

  • http://www.yellow.stars.com eslaporte

    Here is an expert from an email Breivik sent to his EDL compatriots, according to the Guradian : http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/26/breivik-manifesto-email-uk-contacts

    “Hello. To you all good English men and women, just wanted to say that you’re a blessing to all in Europe, in these dark times all of Europe are looking to you in such of inspiration, courage and even hope that we might turn this evil trend with islamisation all across our continent. Well, just wanted to say keep up the good work it’s good to see others that care about their country and heritage.”

    Now, the EDL is a “blessing to all in Europe?”
    sicko!

  • http://www.yellow.stars.com eslaporte

    First of all – a true American patriot defends the religious freedom and other freedoms of Muslims. People who claim to be “patriots” and believe nonsense, like local governments “have the right to refuse building of Mosques” are NOT patriots! Patriots would be the ones on the side of religious freedom and the right of Muslims to have mosques and community centers.

    Many human rights documents appear to be modeled after the Bill of Rights.

    Second, as a real Christian, we are to love our neighbors as ourselves. We are also to be concerned with the “least of these.” I am convinced that “Christian conservative” is an oxymoron. It’s hard to claim to love Jesus and than hate Muslims and spit on poor people…

    There is NO better definition of self-hating American than an Islamophobe!

  • http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com

    LOL

    Thanks for the updates Elsaporte, “self hating American?” Amazing how thise fifth columnists can call you that, when the American constitution certainly does not support their agenda. If it did, they would not need an Islamophobia machine to fund and propogandise.

    Ironically, America was built specifically to support liberal and left values. That’s why the EUropean settlers left Europe and went to America.

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