To date Obama has been one of the most pro-Israel presidents ever.
Andrew Adler wrote that he thinks Benjamin Netanyahu should assassinate President Barack Obama because he is not pro-Israel enough. Obama has been one of the most pro-Israel presidents out there and still you got the nutbags on the Right who want him dead.
Imagine if an American Muslim publisher had wrote this? He would be getting water-boarded in Guantanamo as we speak. Also, you could bet that the condemnations from Muslim leaders would barely be recognized, unlike in this case, where the outrage at Adler’s statements from within the Jewish community is highlighted very well.
Uproar after Jewish American newspaper publisher suggests Israel assassinate Barack Obama
(Haaretz)
NEW YORK – The owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, Andrew Adler, has suggested that Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu consider ordering a Mossad hit team to assassinate U.S. President Barack Obama so that his successor will defend Israel against Iran.
Adler, who has since apologized for his article, listed three options for Israel to counter Iran’s nuclear weapons in an article published in his newspaper last Friday. The first is to launch a pre-emptive strike against Hamas and Hezbollah, the second is to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities and the third is to “give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.”
Adler goes on to write: “Yes, you read “three correctly.” Order a hit on a president in order to preserve Israel’s existence. Think about it. If have thought of this Tom-Clancy-type scenario, don’t you think that this almost unfathomable idea has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circles?”
Adler apologized yesterday for the article, saying “I very much regret it; I wish I hadn’t made reference to it at all,” Adler told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency. And in an interview with Gawker.com, Adler denied that he was advocating an assassination of Obama.
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The op-ed in Atlanta Jewish Times. |
The American Jewish Committee in Atlanta last night issued a harsh condemnation of Adler’s article, saying that his proposals are “shocking beyond belief.”
“While we acknowledge Mr. Adler’s apology, we are flabbergasted that he could ever say such a thing in the first place. How could he even conceive of such a twisted idea?” said Dov Wilker, director of AJC Atlanta. “Mr. Adler surely owes immediate apologies to President Obama, as well as to the State of Israel and his readership, the Atlanta Jewish community.”
January 21st, 2012 at 3:45 pm
If he were a Muslim, he would be in Gitmo as you read this.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Ih he were Muslim, he’d be sent to Gitmo where an “unfortunate accident” befalls him, the next day an anonymous government officials tells the NY times that they have intel that this is not an isolated incident that the day before he made a phone call to someone in Yemen, the government does more ” investigating” and uncovers a startling conspiracy involving a terrorist group with cells all over the world, under-ground super complexes, super caves with many rooms where fighters can sleep, eat, store weapons, a tank garage, air radar, computer room, air purification chambers (u think I am making this up? The US media actually reported ‘super caves’ in the run up to the afghan war). They announce that the terrorists’ main base is Yemen. With cooperation of Saleh the US enters the country with drones, apaches’ , special forces. And then the collateral damage bonanza begins. Maybe a drone pilot nerd in Arizona sneezed and hit the fire button accidentally, oops 5 woman and 7 children killed? Aww we didn’t mean it. Or an apaches happens upon a field were a dozen kids are playing with sticks. Gunner calls it in “I’ve got a dozen insurgents heavily armed in the AO, permission to engage” “Roger that black hawk, u are good to go” After the smoke clears and tiny hands still clutching a stick, and tiny heads with holes, tiny bellies with their intestines spilling out, lay strewn across the field the gunner jokes about how that one little boy tried to escape by hiding under his older brothers body. Yeh if it were a Muslim, the Muslim and Arab people would have to pay.
January 21st, 2012 at 4:37 pm
There are better ways to disagree over policy
January 21st, 2012 at 4:41 pm
This is not their worst. There’s children’s blood on Israel’s hand already. What if they were Muslim?
January 21st, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Jewish paper’s column catches Secret Service eye
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/21/us/jewish-president-threat/index.html?eref=rss_latest&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+Most+Recent%29
Atlanta, Georgia (CNN) — The U.S. Secret Service is looking into a controversial column by an Atlanta Jewish newspaper publisher that mulled the assassination of an American president.
Andrew Adler, owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, wrote a January 13 column about the threat of Iran to Israel. He posed three options for the Jewish state to counter the Iranian regime.
One of them called for a “hit on a president in order to preserve Israel’s existence.”
“Give the go-ahead for U.S. based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.”
U.S. Secret Service spokesman George Ogilvie told CNN Saturday, “We are aware of it. We are taking the appropriate investigative steps.”
January 21st, 2012 at 5:59 pm
If he was a Muslim, his apology would be dismissed as “taqiyya”. Overnight, justifications for his comments will appear, as if by magic, from previously unheard of medieval Islamic egal texts and Quranic verses taken out-of-context. Connections will be made between his comments and those of the Prophet, as if the assassination of Presidents was mandated by Islam itself. American Muslims will be suspected of harbouring the same murderous intentions — “after all, they read from the same book, don’t they?” — and those who condemn the comments will be accused of lying in order to spread Islamic law within the US.
Am I exaggerating? Have you ever read Jihadwatch? This process happens every time — literally every time — a story pops up where the perpetrator is Muslim. It is assumed that any thing done wrong by a Muslim, from stealing a car to eating the last doughnut, it is done in the name of Islam and in furtherance of some imaginary conspiracy to take over the world.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:28 pm
JT, indeed, totally agree with you.
But I don’t think this Adler guy is going to get off scott free. The Secret Service is onto him.
I’m a bit puzzled as to why death threats to a President are taken seriously, and other death threats or calls for genocide given ‘free speech’ status.
I don’t advocate assasinating the President of course, nor approve of death threats, nor what this Adler guy said, but since such a hullaballo is made of free speech when calls for genocide are made, why is a death threat to a President not free speech? Again, I don’t want it to be acceptable to issue death threats to Presidents or anyone else, but i’m just stunned at how ‘free’, free speech really is.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Disgusting. Regardless of what you think of the man, to call for the assassination of the President of the United States is the deepest kind of treason. Deport the guy to Israel, if he loves it so much.
And yes, I’d say the same if it came from a Christian, Muslim or atheist…if anyone thinks that the assassination of the President is ok if he or she doesn’t support a particular foreign power enough, then that person should be deported to that country.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Damn, Inspired, you’re real young.
Three words why such threats are taken seriously: John F. Kennedy.
To a certain degree, it is protected speech. That was conclusively found in Watt v. United States. Nonetheless, the Secret Service will look into it any time it looks like it could be connected to, or an incitement for, a plan for action. Nor is it threats to the Presidency alone that are so investigated, but these are the most likely to come to public knowledge.
The assassination of a President can profoundly alter the destiny of the country. Where the Vice Presidency is for any reason vacant and the House controlled by the opposition, it can actually reverse its entire direction. That did not happen in 1963, but I have always wondered what our other history might have been…in a world where November 22 was a day like any other.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:34 am
Inspired, as usual. Anything that would implicate Israel (even if it involves assasination of the President of the USA) is off-discussion for you since Israel can do nothing wrong.
January 22nd, 2012 at 5:15 am
> “Deport the guy to Israel, if he loves it so much.”
So that he unleashes, directly delivers by hand, his hate and rage on innocent Palestinian people?? Very, very bad idea, America should keep her criminal minds, after all its her’s.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:09 am
“Inspired, as usual. Anything that would implicate Israel (even if it involves assasination of the President of the USA) is off-discussion for you since Israel can do nothing wrong.”
WORD!
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:10 am
Géji, too true–my bad. We need to own up to our own bad eggs.
Let’s just send him to Gitmo, ‘Kay?
On a more serious note, it should be observed that Obama (and his immediate predecessor) have been establishing a precedent for wacking people who say bad things. No one deserves that, without due process…not Adler, not Obama, nor certain American clerics living in Yemen.
The poisoned rhetoric is of our nation’s own making. What a sad, sad commentary on what we’ve become. Don’t like someone? Just wack him.
We have met the enemy and they are us.
January 22nd, 2012 at 10:17 am
LOL @ Solid Snake, I would love to buy your book! I just don’t know if it would be fiction or non-fiction.
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:55 am
Garibaldi,
Wow! This guy has quite a nerve. I’m really glad the ADL is speaking out against this guy. Point though, that I disagree on. I don’t think it raises questions as to weather or not he is fit to run a newspaper, I think it proves that he is not fit to run a newspaper. Imagine the shock and outrage there would be by the New York Times readership if someone wrote a commentary in that paper that suggested we assassinate Barrack Obama or even George W Bush.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
@ “AJ” and “khushboo” – “Inspired by Muhammad” and I have our disagreements; but in this case I feel like she (he?) is being wrongly accused. The comment said that she agreed with “JT”, believes threats against the President are wrong no matter who makes them, and points out that the Secret Service is “onto him”. There was no suggestion that the Secret Service should NOT be “onto him”.
The only question she had is why other death threats or calls for genocide are shrugged off as “free speech”. She certainly did not say that death threats are wrong except when it could implicate Israel.
I seem to recall that she is very much in favor of Zionism, and the “two-State” solution to the present controversy. But it doesn’t appear to me that she is as ‘overboard’ regarding Zionism as you would imply. She definitely doesn’t like my “anti-Zionist” position, but she doesn’t appear to take the position that Israel can do no wrong.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:37 pm
AJ and Khushboo
Inspired, as usual. Anything that would implicate Israel (even if it involves assasination of the President of the USA) is off-discussion for you since Israel can do nothing wrong.
There is a need to defend to Israel or any other country from liars like you, because Israel did not make this threat like you are inferring. It was a guy called Andrew Adler sitting in America. So unless you can prove Mossad appointed him as their spokesperson, you are both as out of order as he is.
You and Khushboo (if WORD means she was cheering you on), both owe Israel an apology here.
Reynardine
I understand all that, the security issue and all that. But it doesn’t change the fact, the freedom of speech or ‘first amendment’ is conditional and doesn’t really exist. Not least because it doensn’t have any ‘strings’ attached to it, but ‘strings’ are added later, as and when deemed proper.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Khushboo,
From what I have gathered of your posts here, you’re angry with Obama because he continued or didn’t end the war in Pakistan. In that case, I submit you’re angry because you want Mossad to do it, and you like what Adler says, and hope Mossad does do it.
The same for AJ. I think the American SEcret service should be investigating you two.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Khushboo and AJ are fifth columns. No different to Israel Firsters.
They are sore that Andrew Adler’s threat is not being taken seriously, and that when people like me point out that the secret service is onto Adler, they dont’ like it. They prefer that someone carries out Adlers threat, and blames Israel so that Obama can get him come uppance and Israel get the blame.
That is why AJ (with Khushboo egging him on) libelled me by saying that I was covering the truth about Israel. Israel has nothing to do with this, the threat didn’t come from Israel.
The Secret Service should investigate these 2 wannabe traitors and cheerers on of Obama wishful assasinators.
this is an outrage.
January 22nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
@ “Inspired by Muhammad” – Now you’re the one overreacting. “AJ” and I assume “khushboo” apparently thought that YOU were objecting to people complaining about Adler’s statement. I don’t quite know how they came to that conclusion, unless it was your question as to why Adler was being attacked while other death threats or calls to genocide are considered “freedom of speech”.
But “AJ” (who is female, by the way) certainly has no desire to see Obama assassinated so he can get his “comeuppance”, since she still admires our President (though “all the world” seems to be against her). You are the one inferring things that are simply not true – in this case, at least.
To suggest that the Secret Service ought to be investigating them because they drew a wrong inference from your comment is a bit outrageous in itself.
January 22nd, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Stephen,
Agreed. I do like Obama a lot, still
January 22nd, 2012 at 11:23 pm
The person suggesting the assassination of Obama, probably read and posts on barenakedislam.
January 23rd, 2012 at 5:19 am
“both owe Israel an apology here.”
No offense, but that is a bizarre assertion. I don’t know why AJ and Khushboo implicated Israel (reflex, perhaps) in the rant of a deranged individual but it matters little, why would they owe an apology to a country? and why would the Secret Service need to investigate them? That in particular was a pretty outrageous comment in itself.
No one in this thread has expressed the slightest support to any individual threatening the President of the US of A. I think it’s you who owe a couple of apologies here.
January 23rd, 2012 at 6:08 am
> “They prefer that someone carries out Adlers threat, and blames Israel so that Obama can get him come uppance and Israel get the blame.”
Lol. When did Israel ever got “the blame” for anything à la American ‘way’? or even western ‘way’?
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:16 am
@inspired,
When I simply said “WORD” by agreeing with AJ, I knew exactly what she meant. Neither of us are anti-Israel. In fact, in other threads which I’m sure you’ve noticed, I have defended Israelis saying that many are peaceful people who like me, want a 2-state solution. AJ and I have both noticed that whenever it comes to someone Israeli-related (not all of Israel), you immediately come to their defense (in this case, use the freedom of speech excuse). This has happened many times. Ofcourse I’ll let AJ speak for herself.
As far as the rest of your nonsensical rants, keep talking…you look like the fool!
Thanks HGG but I’m not expecting an apology, just more nonsense from her.
FYI: If I had to choose whom to vote for come November, I would still vote for the less-evil Obama than Gingrich and Santorum.
January 23rd, 2012 at 9:59 am
Has the Secret Service visited this Loon’s house?
This person needs to be on a watch list!
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:34 am
Khusboo
As far as the rest of your nonsensical rants, keep talking…you look like the fool!
No, you are the one looking like a fool, first of all you didn’t even read the thread above, or you’d have seen I didn’t mention Israel nor even think about it. I was surprised at AJ’s comment,
Thanks HGG but I’m not expecting an apology, just more nonsense from her.
Don’t flatter yourself . The nonsense came from you. I did not mention Israel but you took AJ’s comment at face value without reading the thread above.
The mistake was AJ’s, and your mistake was in blindly nodding to something you liked, without verifying if it was true or not.
If you want to pick a fight with me do it on your own, you coward, don’t hide behind AJ
HGG
I think it’s you who owe a couple of apologies here.
I am not the one who should make apologies. Don’t be riduculous. What should I apologise for? AJ said I was defending Israel, when I did not even mention the word. You yourself mentioned above that nobody mentioned Israel.
Since Khushboo and AJ both seemed to be concurring that Israel should be blamed, and that I was defending it or Adler or the comment, ——–that is why I said they should apologise.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:37 am
Khushboo said:
AJ and I have both noticed that whenever it comes to someone Israeli-related (not all of Israel), you immediately come to their defense (in this case, use the freedom of speech excuse). This has happened many times.
and what’s wrong with that? You and AJ above proved why I and others need to do this. We wouldn’t have to if there not liars like you looking to blame everything and every sin on Israel.
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:44 am
by the way, what’s this ‘AJ and I’ as if you are joined at the hip? Are you not capable of independent thought?
AJ seems to be nothing but a troublemaker, what is he your husband?
January 23rd, 2012 at 10:49 am
Troll AJ did not offer an explanation for his misleading comment. I suspect this troublemaker and Khushboo are in cahoots.
Note he wrote an inflammatory comment then offered no explanation for it. Instead Khushboo turned up to snipe and bite.
I’m ready for a fight if that’s what you want
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:28 am
“liars like you looking to blame everything and every sin on Israel.”
Oh look who’s lying now?! and what’s with all the responses over one comment!
You’ve gone apesh!t even after I tried to clarify! You’re not worth talking to since you sound like a paranoid schizo. I’m done.
January 23rd, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Khusboo
Typical huh? stir up a cauldron and say ‘I’m done’.
Your clarification was but a distortion, you didn’t address any of the facts. Did AJ or did AJ not bring in a red herring and throw the subject off topic? Did you or did you not respond to a lie of AJ’s?
Your ‘clarification’ stinks
January 23rd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Ladies please… this is a family forum and not a place for name calling and mud slinging. There are plenty of places where you can do that if you want, I believe the Yahoo forums are very popular for this.
And BMD you really really really really really need to calm down. Its a bloody internet site, not the end of the world if you can’t get the last word in. And yes far to many Muslims are way to keen to blame Israel or The Jews (TM) for everything, I agree. But shouting at them doesn’t change this one bit.
Jack
January 23rd, 2012 at 3:10 pm
@inspired,
“When I simply said “WORD” by agreeing with AJ, I knew exactly what she meant. Neither of us are anti-Israel. In fact, in other threads which I’m sure you’ve noticed, I have defended Israelis saying that many are peaceful people who like me, want a 2-state solution. AJ and I have both noticed that whenever it comes to someone Israeli-related (not all of Israel), you immediately come to their defense (in this case, use the freedom of speech excuse). This has happened many times. Ofcourse I’ll let AJ speak for herself.”
Khushboo, exactly! Just because this guy is asking Israel to assasinate Obama, Inspired thinks its alright and should be protected by freedom of speech. Now if this guy wasn’t Jewish and wasn’t asking Israel, Inspired wouldn’t come to his help. This is an oft-repeated thing with her. ANYONE and EVERYONE can be criticized except Israel or someone related to Israel. It’s quite annoying.
January 23rd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Jack
There’s a lot of it about today
Must be the weather I blame global warming
January 23rd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Jack, thank you for acknowledging that Israel is a used as a butt, but i’m disappointed that you cannot see the dirty tricks AJ is playing with Khushboo as an acomplice. If anyone had accused you, wouldn’t you have responded in a similar fashion?
Loon Watch,
Why is this troll AJ permitted to slander and lie shamelessly here? He has led a thread astray, by making a false accusation, which I did not make, and which for which he is now pretending that I did make.
The troll refuses to answer direct points I made, choosing instead to use this Khushboo character to give him support.
I think some moderation is in order. This is outrageous. Surely a long term contributor should not have to suffer unfair abuse by a troll.
January 23rd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
@Inspired by Mohammad
AJ (who’s a woman) and khushboo are also long-time Loonwatch contributors, and I don’t think any one of you should be dismissed as a troll.
The argument seems to be about who is too critical and who is too uncritical of Israel. khushboo agreed with AJ, but Stephen G Parker and Jack Cope acknowledged your point as well.
I think there is room for mixed opinion on this issue. Maybe the best thing to do at this point is to calmly agree to disagree and leave it behind.
January 23rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Ilisha
Thank you, but with all due respect the argument is not about who is too critical about Israel.
It is about AJ making up lies.
She was saying that I defended this Adler guy because he was Jewish when I did no such thing. AJ also accused me of not blaming Israel or something to that effect.
The truth is an American guy said Mossad should assasinate Obama. You cannot blame Israel or Mossad for what Adler said. AJ’s attack was a spiteful one. More so, because in a normal debate she doesn’t address me directly, but talks over my head to Khushboo. Moreover, I have always said the first amendment is a lie. Free speech doesn’t exist, i’ve said it and given many examples, not least the false propoganda that was spread by the US military and Bush regime during the Iraq war.
AJ’s comment was spiteful, and a personal attack, even bigotry if anyone misinterprets it as an unfair attack on Israel or Jews since she mentioned Jews.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
I can’t imagine what would happen to a Muslim if he did say this. Ugh. Gitmo will only be the beginning.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
He resigned from the paper
January 24th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Mindy1, did he resign or was he errrrrr, encouraged to by his boss, so the Secret Service doesn’t close them down or something:)
January 25th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
The simian is causing more Jew hate that’s for sure
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/24/andrew-adler-atlanta-jewish-times-obama_n_1228538.html
I understand what he wrote is illegal under US law.
As for the Guantanamo Bay its not needed for Jews they don’t do what Muslims do as frequently. NO moral equivalence.
Just as a last point Israel wouldn’t support its only real ally in the world especially with the OIC at the UN, Europe that hates it and the non-aligned. He’s an asshat for saying it I’m pretty sure if one looks you can see comparable statements by others. Mountain out of a molehill springs to mind.
January 26th, 2012 at 12:18 am
@twiceasisraeli,
Oh wow. surprise, surprise, you’re another zionist bottom feeder shilling for israel. If he was a Muslim you’d be all over this like a fly on crap. Threatening the President of the United States is a class D felony under United States Code Title 18, Section 871, but this guy gets to resign and walk away, no charges filed. Talk about a happy ending.
No moral equivalence? If every Zionist terrorist was rounded up and confined you’d need much more then a Gitmo, oh wait thats what the terrorist state of israel is for.
January 26th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Palestine for Palestinians(jews, muslims, christians)
January 27th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
It is still a Federal offence ‘to insuiate, propogate or publicly declare for actions which can directly or indirectly bring bodily harm to a serving President, Vice President, their families or that of former Presidents and Vice Presidents.’ Its the FBI and Secret Service’s responsibility to defend democracy by protecting the President’s family from both domestic and foreigners alike
The editorial clearly opined that a foreign nation take actions directly to harm Obama. The question for the Feds, was “merely opining an option the same as Publicly declaring for the action to harm the President.”
We all know of course that had the editor been a Muslim, a socialist or an Occupy Wallstreeter (99%er), he or she would be charged within a week of the article’s printing