Iranian scientists car blown up by MEK terrorist
This past July I wrote a piece on the collaboration between, and support for the MEK (Mujahideen-e-Khalq) from US congressmen, as well as the intense effort to delist the group from the US State Department’s “designated terrorist” list.
Congressmen (including Democrats) and former government officials have met with the Mujahedin-e Khalq (MEK), an organization that was designated a terrorist group in 1997 when the list was first compiled, and is STILL ON THE LIST–for now.
MEK has a very aggressive and organized lobby effort in Washington D.C. According to one House staffer, the MEK is “the most mobilized grassroots advocacy effort in the country — AIPAC included.” Their mission is to be delisted as a foreign terrorist organization (FTO), push the USA to foment war with Iran, i.e. “regime change,” and have themselves installed into power. Sound familiar?
This exposed several issues which I touched upon in my July article:
1.) It is a felony to provide a designated terrorist organization with “material support,” which many elected officials it can be argued have been doing!
2.) “Numerous Muslims inside the U.S. have been prosecuted for providing ‘material support for Terrorism’ for doing far less than these American politicians are publicly doing on behalf of a designated Terrorist group.” Read Glenn Greenwald’s piece for a far from comprehensive list of Muslims who have been charged for doing far less than what these politicians did! (H/T: Believing Atheist)
Danios has written several pieces on the “Greater Islamophobia,” i.e. “bombing, invading, and occupying Muslim lands.” His and Glenn Greenwald’s analysis of the uptick in war propaganda, covert operations by both the USA and Israel are must reads. It is clear that we are reaching a crucial point from which we will be unable to return: are the wheels turning irreversibly towards war?
According to the Iranian American Islamic scholar Reza Aslan, the fact that there is so much public discussion of “war” against Iran is indicative of a private aversion to confrontation, he told us:
Nobody is going to war with Iran, neither the United States or Israel. I can tell you for a fact that Israel is not going to war with Iran because Israel keeps talking about it. If anybody who has studied Israeli politics at all can tell you anything is if Israel talks about bombing Iran then that means it has no intentions of doing it. When the Israelis want you dead you just die, OK.
Reza’s logic is pretty sound and lets hope he continues to be right, but sometimes, even when no one wants war you get war. History is replete with such a fact.
In the meantime we have the Israeli effort at sabotaging the Iranian nuclear program by targeting and killing Iranian scientists. It has been a not-so-well-hidden-secret that Israel has been using the MEK as a proxy in this war, a claim leveled by Iran for quite some time.
Now we have US officials confirming this fact. Of course, if true, this is nothing less than government sponsored terrorism!
All of these mysteries received substantial clarity from an NBC News report by Richard Engel and Robert Windrem yesterday. Citing two anonymous “senior U.S. officials,” that report makes two amazing claims: (1) that it was MEK which perpetrated the string of assassinations of Iranian nuclear scientists and (2) the Terrorist group “is financed, trained and armed by Israel’s secret service.” These senior officials also admitted that “the Obama administration is aware of the assassination campaign” but claims it “has no direct involvement.” Iran has long insisted the Israel and the U.S. are using MEK to carry out Terrorist attacks on its soil, including the murder of its scientists, and NBC notes that these acknowledgments “confirm charges leveled by Iran’s leaders” (MEK issued a statement denying the report).
The ramifications for this are disturbing to say the least. The hypocrisy and double standards it exposes once again are evident. Greenwald summarizes the questions and conclusions reached from the NBC report far more eloquently than I could, so I repeat them:
If these senior U.S. officials are telling the truth, there are a number of vital questions and conclusions raised by this. First, it would mean that the assurances by MEK’s paid American shills such as Howard Dean that “they are unarmed” are totally false: whoever murdered these scientists is obviously well-armed. Second, this should completely gut the effort to remove MEK from the list of designated Terrorist groups; after all, murdering Iran’s scientists through the use of bombs and guns is a defining act of a Terror group, at least as U.S. law attempts to define the term. Third, this should forever resolve the debate in which I was involved last month about whether the attack on these Iranian scientists constitutes Terrorism; as Daniel Larson put it yesterday: “If true, the murders of Iranian nuclear scientists with bombs have been committed by a recognized terrorist group. Can everyone acknowledge at this point that these attacks were acts of terrorism?”
Fourth, and most important: if this report is true, is this not definitive proof that Israel is, by definition, a so-called state sponsor of Terrorism? Leaving everything else aside, if Israel, as NBC reports, has “financed, trained and armed” a group officially designated by the U.S. Government as a Terrorist organization, isn’t that the definitive act of how one becomes an official “state sponsor of Terrorism”? Amazingly, as Daniel Larison notes, one of the people who most vocally attacked me for labeling the murder of Iranian scientists as “Terrorism” and for generally arguing that Terrorism is a meaningless, cynically applied term — Commentary‘s Jonathan Tobin — yesterday issued a justification for why Israel should be working with Terrorist groups like MEK. As Larison wrote about Tobin’s article:
In other words, Israeli state sponsorship of a terrorist group is acceptable because it’s in a good cause. . . . Because Israel is overreacting to a perceived threat from Iran, Tobin believes it is entirely defensible for Israel to partner with a recognized terrorist group. In other words, Tobin believes that terrorism is “entirely defensible” so long as it is committed by the right people and directed at the right targets. It’s as if he is going out of his way to vindicate Glenn Greenwald.
Of course, as I documented in my last book, those who are politically and financially well-connected are free to commit even the most egregious crimes; for that reason, the very idea of prosecuting Giuliani, Rendell, Ridge, Townsend, Dean and friends for their paid labor on behalf of a Terrorist group is unthinkable, a suggestion not fit for decent company, even though powerless Muslims have been viciously prosecuted for far less egregious connections to such groups. But this incident also underscores the specific point that the term Terrorism is so completely meaningless, manipulated and mischievous: it’s just a cynical term designed to delegitimize violence and even political acts undertaken by America’s enemies while shielding from criticism the actual Terrorism undertaken by itself and its allies. The spectacle whereby a designated Terrorist group can pay top American politicians to advocate for them even as they engage in violent Terrorist acts, all while being trained, funded and aided by America’s top client state, should forever end the controversy over that glaringly obvious proposition.
Here is the original NBC Report:
By Richard Engel and Robert Windrem (NBC NEWS)
Deadly attacks on Iranian nuclear scientists are being carried out by an Iranian dissident group that is financed, trained and armed by Israel’s secret service, U.S. officials tell NBC News, confirming charges leveled by Iran’s leaders.
The group, the People’s Mujahedin of Iran, has long been designated as a terrorist group by the United States, accused of killing American servicemen and contractors in the 1970s and supporting the takeover of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran before breaking with the Iranian mullahs in 1980.
The attacks, which have killed five Iranian nuclear scientists since 2007 and may have destroyed a missile research and development site, have been carried out in dramatic fashion, with motorcycle-borne assailants often attaching small magnetic bombs to the exterior of the victims’ cars.
U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the Obama administration is aware of the assassination campaign but has no direct involvement.
The Iranians have no doubt who is responsible – Israel and the People’s Mujahedin of Iran, known by various acronyms, including MEK, MKO and PMI.
“The relation is very intricate and close,” said Mohammad Javad Larijani, a senior aide to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, speaking of the MEK and Israel. “They (Israelis) are paying … the Mujahedin. Some of their (MEK) agents … (are) providing Israel with information. And they recruit and also manage logistical support.”
Moreover, he said, the Mossad, the Israeli secret service, is training MEK members in Israel on the use of motorcycles and small bombs. In one case, he said, Mossad agents built a replica of the home of an Iranian nuclear scientist so that the assassins could familiarize themselves with the layout prior to the attack.
Much of what the Iranian government knows of the attacks and the links between Israel and MEK comes from interrogation of an assassin who failed to carry out an attack in late 2010 and the materials found on him, Larijani said. (Click here to see a video report of the interrogation shown on Iranian televsion.)
The U.S.-educated Larijani, whose two younger brothers run the legislative and judicial branches of the Iranian government, said the Israelis’ rationale is simple. “Israel does not have direct access to our society. Mujahedin, being Iranian and being part of Iranian society, they have … a good number of … places to get into the touch with people. So I think they are working hand-to-hand very close. And we do have very concrete documents.”
Two senior U.S. officials confirmed for NBC News the MEK’s role in the assassinations, with one senior official saying, “All your inclinations are correct.” A third official would not confirm or deny the relationship, saying only, “It hasn’t been clearly confirmed yet.” All the officials denied any U.S. involvement in the assassinations.
As it has in the past, Israel’s Foreign Ministry declined comment. Said a spokesman, “As long as we can’t see all the evidence being claimed by NBC, the Foreign Ministry won’t react to every gossip and report being published worldwide.”
For its part, the MEK pointed to a statement calling the allegations “absolutely false.”
Ali Safavi, a long-time representative of the MEK, underscored the denial after publication of this article,
“There has never been and there is no MEK member in Israel, period,” he said. “The MEK has categorically denied any involvement. The idea that Israel is training MEK members on its soil borders on perversity. It is absolutely and completely false.”
The sophistication of the attacks supports the Iranian claims that an experienced intelligence service is involved, experts say.
In the most recent attack, on Jan. 11, 2012, Mostafa Ahamdi Roshan died in a blast in Tehran moments after two assailants on a motorcycle placed a small magnetic bomb on his vehicle. Roshan was a deputy director at the Natanz uranium enrichment facility and was reportedly involved in procurement for the nuclear program, which Iran insists is not a weapons program.
Previous attacks include the assassination of Massoud Ali-Mohammadi, killed by a bomb outside his Tehran home in January 2010, and an explosion in November of that year that took the life of Majid Shahriari and wounded Fereydoun Abbasi-Davani, who is now the head of Iran’s Atomic Energy Organization.
In the case of Roshan, the bomb appears to have been a shaped charge that directed all the explosive power inside the vehicle, killing him and his bodyguard driver but leaving nearby traffic unaffected.
Although Roshan was directly involved in the nuclear program, working at the huge centrifuge facility between Tehran and Qom, Iran’s religious center, at least one other scientist who was killed wasn’t linked to the Iranian nuclear program, according to Larijani.
Speaking of bombing victim Ali-Mohammadi, whom he described as a friend, Larijani told NBC News, “In fact this guy who was assassinated was not involved in the nitty-gritty of the situation. He was a scientist, a physicist, working on the theoretically parts of nuclear energy, which you can teach it in every university. You can find it in every text.”
“This is an Israeli plot. A dirty plot,” Larijani added angrily. He also claimed the assassinations are not having an effect on the program and have only made scientists more resolute in carrying out their mission.
Not so, said Ronen Bergman, an Israeli commentator and author of “Israel’s Secret War with Iran” and an upcoming book tentatively titled, “Mossad and the Art of Assassination. (Read the rest)
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I will end by saying that this hypocrisy and double standards are nothing new to us. We reported back in July on the collaboration between US politicians and the material support they were clearly lending to a “designated terrorist organization.” Muslims and Islamic groups who have far less power than these hypocritical politicians are tarnished with the “unindicted terrorist” label and hence marginalized while the politicians roam free and actually put money into their pocket books from these terror groups.
Israel’s lies, distortions and terror are also well known to us. This is not the first time Israel has delved into “government sponsored terror” and it likely won’t be the last! On a daily basis Israel is terrorizing the Palestinians, a point many seem to miss! The question is when will we wake up and hold our political class to account for the hypocrisy, the double standards, the erosion of our civil liberties or are we willing to give it away for the false mirage of “security?”
February 10th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
@Garibaldi,
Thank you for the hat tip.
February 10th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
This is NOT going to end well
February 10th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Israel pays Islamist extremists to bomb mosques, but Mossad keeps the job of blowing up foreign synagogues for itself.
February 10th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
I think the Quds force should respond.
February 10th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
I thought that Loonwatch.com was not a terrorist spin control network, because this website’s self-proclaimed and only aim is the exposing of “Loons” Yet, the website publishes this article?
Why not publish articles about all the Islamic terror in the world, as well?
February 10th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Isn’t this the same MEK that Peter King (R-IRA) and Rudy Gulaiani pal around with?
February 10th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
“Orcca” is definitely a troll from the jihadwatch twilight zone world that Eric Allen Bell entered.
I leave his post up for people to view, be bemused by, etc. Obviously “Orcca” has the reading comprehension of Bell. Otherwise he would see the correlation between Islamophobia and the report that Israel is funding actual “terrorists.”
There are several ways in which this correlates directly and indirectly to Islamophobia, does anyone have the energy to spell this out for poor “Orcca”?
the “Greater Islamophobia,” i.e. “bombing, invading, and occupying Muslim lands.”
“Numerous Muslims inside the U.S. have been prosecuted for providing ‘material support for Terrorism’ for doing far less than these American politicians are publicly doing on behalf of a designated Terrorist group.”
February 10th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Re: Orcca i.e. beached whale:
To put is simply (as indeed you must be a simpleton) and as a matter of fact the Zionist apartheid colony known in lesser circles as “Is-it-real?!” and Dominionist, Evangelical Christians, as well as repugnant Republicans and other friends of “Is-it-real?!”, publicly condemn “terror” tactics and “terrorism” while engaging in it, if not directly, through economic and political means, i.e. support of the MEK, a KNOWN TERRORIST GROUP!
Isn’t that hypocritical if not downright LOONY?
Thanks for playing, LOL
February 10th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
@Orcca
It’s not like Loonwatch has exposed the unknown terrorism of Zionistan, or is being antisemitic for exposing the rogue state. Israel is already a terrorist state in the eyes of millions of people world-wide, including prominent Jews. Ask Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomskey and they will tell you why.
And sorry, but I can not have preferences, neither does loonwatch I suppose, when it comes to Muslim extremists abusing people based on religion and Jewish extremists who occupy somebody else’s land because the Old Testament told them to. All types of extremism are condemnable.
The difference is: Islamophobes like Spencer want you to think that you should not trust Muslims because you can not tell a good one from a bad one. Loonwatch, on the other hand, never equates Israel with Jews, and never said that “you can not distinguish a Zionist from a peaceful Jew so you should distrust all Jews”.
Now here’s my challenge for you.
Run a google search for the phrase “there is no reliable way to distinguish a peaceful Muslim” on Jihadwatch.org, and you will find 2,100 results.
I have done the homework for you if you feel lazy, here you go:
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=Robert+spencer+%22there+is+no+reliable+way+to+distinguish+a+peaceful+Muslim%22+site:jihadwatch.org&pbx=1&oq=Robert+spencer+%22there+is+no+reliable+way+to+distinguish+a+peaceful+Muslim%22+site:jihadwatch.org&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=1536l1536l0l3478l1l1l0l0l0l0l93l93l1l1l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=bb30518a1a45f2ba&biw=1366&bih=664
I have been reading loonwatch.com for over a year, and I dare you to find a single article that asks you to distrust normal Christians or normal Jews!
That’s the difference between racists and anti-imperialists/anti-loons.
Good luck with your search.
February 10th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
If a foriegn government trains, supports, and funds the murder of a civilian of a country in the civilian’s country…isn’t that an act of war?
In other words, everything Iran does from now on is self defence.
February 10th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Wouldn’t this fall under “material support of terrorism”? I’d assume we’d have to indefinitely detain the US government or deport them.
February 10th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Yet, the website publishes this article?
Some loons have seats in the best Congress money can buy.
February 10th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
At Geller-Spencer’s CPAC Panel, Anti-Muslim Activist Says He’s Proud of Attacks on Mosques
Speaking today at the unofficial CPAC panel “Islamic Law in America: How the Obama Justice Department Is Selling Us Out,” sponsored by Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer, James Lafferty of the Virginia Anti-Sharia Task Force was “proud to say” that most of the mosques attacked in the US were in the South: CPAC: Anti-Muslim Activist James Lafferty Says He’s ‘Proud’ of Attacks Against Mosques.
“Well with what the gentleman was saying about the Justice Department, I went to the briefing, the hate crimes summit, and I went there and it was all Muslim officials speaking and they had all these pictures of some mosque somewhere, and it was usually in the South I’m proud to say where a guy would drive a pickup truck right into the mosque. They had I bet 20—it looked like the same picture after a while because they just kept showing these same pictures, and each Muslim speaker got up, and remember this is a Justice Department meeting, and really ragged on two groups: the FBI and the NYPD. So whatever they’re doing they’re doing something good.”
This is far from the first example; Geller and Spencer are usually too cunning to express this kind of open support for anti-Muslim violence, but their associates … not so much: Pamela Geller Associate John Jay Openly Calls for Mass Murder.
Meanwhile, after ranting earlier this week that no one reads LGF or takes me seriously, and that I was a “boil on the ass of the blogosphere,” Geller blocked me on Twitter, then proceeded to tweet the following to me today — even though, since she blocked me, I was unlikely to even see it. (I only saw it because one of her followers retweeted it.)
Pamela Geller @Atlasshrugs
Breitbart, Geller, Spencer – we’re coming to get you, Chuckie! twitpic.com/8i1kz8 @AndrewBreitbart @jihadwatchRS @Lizardoid
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/39903_At_Geller-Spencers_CPAC_Panel_Anti-Muslim_Activist_Says_Hes_Proud_of_Attacks_on_Mosques/comments/#ctop
February 11th, 2012 at 4:43 am
There is a war now going on between Muslims and the Kuffar at the behest of Islam.Islam is occupying so many Non-Muslim LANDS for the last 1400 years which have got to be taken back by force-the only language Muslims understand.If you give them an inch,they will go for a yard.In fact Islam and terrorism are the two sides of the same coin-the coin minted by Mohammad who claimed’I HAVE BEEN MADE VICTORIOUS WITH TERROR’But we have to tell his followers the words of JESUS:THOSE WHO LIVE BY THE SWORD,THEY ALSO DIE BY THE SWORD.That is how Islam and Muslim will face their end.
February 11th, 2012 at 6:21 am
The funniest is that these Iranians were recruited in London by Mossad from a recruitment session held for people of Muslim background by M15 and M16. The Mossad agents came through the backdoor thanks to friends made from within and introduced themselves as CIA agents.
These Iranians and many others are still under the impression of working for CIA or M15/M16 and ofcos the very nice inducements that cannot be turned down.
To make matters worst, USA and UK both appointed ambassadors of certain extraction and ethnic affiliations to Israel. One example is the former UK man in Tehran called Mathew Gould with a record of repeating his Zionist commitments in public and private.
February 11th, 2012 at 6:51 am
If a foriegn government trains, supports, and funds the murder of a civilian of a country in the civilian’s country…isn’t that an act of war?
In other words, everything Israel does from now on is self defence.
(So easy! War for everybody!)
February 11th, 2012 at 7:59 am
MEK have been looking for a sponcer since there last one ( a Mr S Hussain of Bagdad ) was unable to fund them anymore.
They are still trying to recruit members in Western based Iranian communities, most of the time getting the equiverlent of two word replies( §§§§§ off in Fasi ) Strangly the ones I met seemed all to wear dark blue hijab or sweat shirts and were not that pleased to be told their images were on the security cameras and a copy would be sent to Special Branch
February 11th, 2012 at 10:41 am
@HGG…
In a civilized society we are ruled by law that makes all people the same. There are no ‘chosen people’ in the eyes of the law. There are no people given special privilage based on thier ancestry, thier religion, thier skin tone, thier country of origin, family name etc.
Again, we are ruled by laws that make all of us equal in a civilized soceity.
In a civilised society, when we have a grievance with someone else, we use the law…not guns, drones, airplanes walls, check points…etc on other people’s property without thier permission. In a civilised soceity, when a crime is committed, justice is brought to an individual based on his crime to another individual…and he is punished as an individual.
For example if someone drives an airplane into a building in your country…you do not retaliate by bombing a city in another land. Revenge is not a civilised way to handle disputes. Certianly, you bring the offenders to justice, and punish those DIRECTLY involved in the plot using EVIDENCE against individuals as proof…and not guilt by association.
In a civilised society no law will cover you if you…steal your neighbour’s property, imprison, intimidate or threaten him to leave it, kill him to take it, or take it by fraud. You cant ‘lose’ property becuase the thief has an overwhelming offensive against gaining it back.
In other words, you cant claim self defence against the legal owner of property you have stolen, or those acting in the legal owners behalf. If you have used force to take his property, he is intitaled to use force to get it back. The thief is not in a posistion to call of compromise, or negotiations unless the legal owner is willing to grant it to the thief.
Now…using these peramaters of a civilised society, tell us why Israel is at war. What legal right do they actually have against Iran, or anyone else to ‘self defence’ of what exactly?
Unless, you are going to claim that Israel is not civilised. Hopefully you arent going to do that…since we know much better than that.
February 11th, 2012 at 11:08 am
@Nur Alia: You say, “In a civilized society we are ruled by law that makes all people the same. There are no ‘chosen people’ in the eyes of the law. There are no people given special privilage based on thier ancestry, thier religion, thier skin tone, thier country of origin, family name etc.” I thought you lived in Malaysia. If so, why would you imply that your country is not civilized? (Articles 153 and 160 of the Malaysia constitution do exactly what you claim is not a mark of a civilized society.) For the record, I was recently in KL and found it civilized, despite what may be inferred from your comment!
February 11th, 2012 at 11:28 am
@truth denier
It’s not like you live on a land you inherited from your white Christian grand grand fathers. Go back to Europe yourself, compensate indigenous Indian tribes, and then babble about restoring the lands which the Muslims have occupied.
Here’s a crash course on imperialism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_imperialism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_colonialism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_imperialism
Evidently, Islamic imperialism is not the worst or most despicable.
February 11th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
A few weeks back Atlanta Jewish Times editor Adler advocated killing of President Obama “through Mossad in US”.
This article was discovered by a blogger and CNN dared to print it in a sidebar. But the major papers like NYTimes, Washington Post et el didn’t bother to mention it at all.(so far) It was an open blackmail to our President and they slyly swept it under the rug. Thanks to the Internet, we intelligent, concerned people can get the truth out.
Good work Garibaldi! Keep up the good work, loon watch.com. Articles like these will never be published in a major way by Zionist run US media.
Also, to cover your expenses, you should allow donation via PayPal or something.
February 11th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
“Now…using these peramaters of a civilised society, tell us why Israel is at war. What legal right do they actually have against Iran, or anyone else to ‘self defence’ of what exactly?”
The same one you nonchalantly seem to give to Iran.
February 12th, 2012 at 1:01 am
I hope the Iranians are building a serious deterrent to deal with the American and Israeli terrorists.
February 12th, 2012 at 7:48 am
“Much of what the Iranian government knows of the attacks and the links between Israel and MEK comes from interrogation of an assassin who failed to carry out an attack in late 2010 and the materials found on him, Larijani said.”
I assume he admitted to being an Israeli agent under torture, right?
February 12th, 2012 at 9:35 am
HGG
A FORIEGN government entity recruting, funding, training, supporting, defending, or otherwise aiding groups or individuals to kill a citizen on his own soil is an act of war.
The recruted entity becomes exactly the same as a bomb or gun of the foriegn government, because the recruited entity is being used as a weapon to murder civilians.
So again, everything Iran does from now on is self defence, simply because by killing a civilian on his own soil with a weapon sent from Israel in the form of a man trained to murder, is a first strike.
February 12th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Jack…
I am sure too that the torture of a man resulted in ‘evidence’ used to invade, occupy and destroy a nation, resulting in the murder of thousands of innocent people.
So…lets not get too self righteous here.
February 12th, 2012 at 9:45 am
@Just stopping by…
I posted a basic guide to what determines a civilised society. I posted nothing about what I agree or disagree with.
Yes, I was born and raised, and live in my homeland…Malaysia. I love my nation as much as you do…hopefully at least on your part.
I am sure you agree that, although you might disagree with some things your nation does, or some of it’s laws, you love where you live, and think of it as modern, forward thinking, and progressive.
You think of it’s laws…for example as sometimes ‘righting a wrong’…such as America’s version of an affirmative action statues. No, they dont seem fair at face value, but in the context of the history of your nation, they make sence.
I never said I agreed with ‘citizenship laws’ in Malaysia when I made my post in the forum.
The laws of Malaysia are irrelevent in this forum…nor are my feelings about them.
February 12th, 2012 at 11:11 am
And on another note:
A Los Angeles attorney is accusing 200 Catholic priests of sexual abuse across California.
According to NBC affiliate in Los Angeles, attorney Ray Boucher has mapped out at least sixty locations of where suspected priests reside in California.
“Many if not all these priests have admitted to sexual abuse,” Boucher told NBC Los Angeles. “They live within a mile of 1,500 playgrounds, schools and daycare centers.”
One of the alleged victims, Dan Smith, graphically detailed his incident with a local priest when he was a child.
“He would rape me and then say this is what God’s love feels like,” Smith told Los Angeles NBC.
Boucher represents over 500 suspected victims suing the Los Angeles Archdiocese for sexual molestation. The LA Archdiocese reached a $660 million settlement with most of the victims in 2007.
But the archdiocese is being accused of a cover up by letting priests leave the country or hide in rehab until the legal deadline for prosecution runs out.
WATCH: Video from NBC affiliate in Los Angeles, which was broadcast on February 11, 2012.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/12/priest-allegedly-told-rape-victim-this-is-what-god%E2%80%99s-love-feels-like/
February 12th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
The Iranian regime often call for the destruction of Israel, they blame everything on Israel and they deny the Holocaust, they also fund and arm the terrorist organisations which murder Israelis and demand the destruction of Israel and genocide of the jews.
It would be surprising if Israeli agents weren’t busy in Iran.
February 12th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
A FORIEGN government entity recruting, funding, training, supporting, defending, or otherwise aiding groups or individuals to kill a citizen on his own soil is an act of war.
The recruted entity becomes exactly the same as a bomb or gun of the foriegn government, because the recruited entity is being used as a weapon to murder civilians.
So again, everything Israel does from now on is self defence, simply because by killing a civilian on his own soil with a weapon sent from Israel in the form of a man trained to murder, is a first strike.
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So easy to justify war from either side!
February 13th, 2012 at 5:31 am
@NurAlia; Self-righteous? Apparently, you’re assuming I’m somehow a spokesperson for the US.
Either way, it’s a tu-quoque argument. We know that torture leads to false information. People will admit to just about anything under torture. If you torture somebody, threaten his family… sure, he’ll admit to being an Israeli agent.
But that doesn’t make it necesserily true.
February 15th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
This fiasco with Iran and Israel is causing too much confusion.
February 18th, 2012 at 10:44 am
“I will end by saying that this hypocrisy and double standards are nothing new to us.”
I would say maybe the Americans do think, after the debacle in Iraq, we have to fight those Islamic fundamentalists with their own means, since nothing else seems to work. They assume the problem justifies all means. Or is terrorism (‘Jihad’) only the exclusive right of Islam !?
February 18th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
@A_Hakbar, I can’t tell whether you’re being serious or joking. There’s sarcasm throughout your post, but to who is directed?