NurAlia – Ok, I get it. I see now. Sorry…

What I mean is that there is a whole other discourse when the suspect of a violent crime is a Muslim. What do you think the discourse in the media and government would be if “it was found out that One Goh was converting to Islam?”

We can only see past cases of violent criminal events to see how crimes by Muslims are treated differently and put into “terrorism and national security” discourse. The “jihad terrorist” shootings in France are reminiscent of the Theo van Gogh murder, that it was “an act of terrorism” and the truth could be that the murder was not “an act of terrorism.” From the Theo van Gogh murder we have a whole genre of “jihad in the Netherlands” books under “terrorism and security” discourse. In reality, the only one who called Mohammed Bouyeri a “terrorist” and Hofstadgroep “an international Islamic terrorist organization” was the Dutch intelligence group, AIVD, nobody else. The truth could very well be that Hofstadgroep was just an ethnic Moroccan street gang and nothing more.

The turning of the murder of Theo van Gogh into “an act of international terrorism” has resulted in the justification of policies and practices by the Dutch State that would not be tolerated against non-Muslims. This includes “radicalization models” that turn legally protected religious and political activity into “a national security issue.” Sharia4Holland is actually dangerous than the PVV is to Dutch democracy.

Yep – you are someone who understands Machiavelli’s basics. In diplomacy, not every handshake and agreement with the diplomats of another nation should be taken as totally honest. There must be an assumption that when leaders and actors of the State are involved – one must be suspect of the actions, policies and statements. Turning the Theo van Gogh murder into “terrorism” has helped advance agendas of various actors, both outside and inside Dutch politics and government. What the “terrorist” murder also did was to alter relations between the Dutch State and other nations, including the United States. Note that everytime a Dutch government official comes to the US, the discussion is almost always on “security, cyber security, counter-terrorism and police in counter-terrorism.” We have the murder of Theo van Gogh defined as an “act of terrorism” at the root of this rubbish .

@Aspie and Atheist- It’s shameful how two of the three North African French paratroopers that were killed were given Islamic burial rites (one was buried at home in Morocco with military honors)- there is no concern about these victims.

What “fundamentalism” is there in France? A single gunman goes on a shooting rampage – and we “have a problem with Islamist networks.” No you don’t! There is no problem from “Islamist networks” in Europe like there is with the radical right, like the English Defense League. There are probably vastly more radical right and Nazi networks than so-called “Islamist-jihad” networks.”

@ NurAlia – you are falling into the trap of believing that crimes by Muslims are “terrorism.” A week later, there was a shooting with seven people dead in a nursing classroom at a college in Oakland, California. The gunman, One Goh, was a Korean American. The shootings in France by Mohamed Merah can be compared to the shootings in Oakland California. Remember horrible crimes by Muslims are “terrorism” and “jihad,” but horrible crimes by Non-Muslims are horrible crimes due to insanity or “anger management problems.”

These arrests are nothing more than political theater. If this “Islamist network” (what baloney!) was so dangerous, why not make arrests BEFORE the shootings? Also – most of those arrested have been released. It’s time to start “cracking down” on the LePens and the Wilders of the world, the radical right must go…

Why are French candidates immediately reactive to murder of Jews but whenever Muslims are killed they seem so much more indifferent?

@Crow, because hate increases stress, lowers the immune system…