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The Nuclear Card

Why Do They Hate Us? They Don’t.

Posted on 26 April 2012 by Danios

Mona Eltahawy, an Arab-American journalist, created a firestorm when Foreign Policy Magazine published her article “Why Do They Hate Us?”.  If you thought the they and us refers to Muslims and Americans, you’d be wrong.  In fact, they is Arab men, and us is women.  Her article is a stabbing critique of Arab culture, which she finds to be heavily misogynistic.

If that wasn’t provocative enough, she goes further: according to her, these Arab men hate women.  ”Yes: They hate us. It must be said.”  To prove her argument, she issues a challenge: “Name me an Arab country, and I’ll recite a litany of abuses [against women] fueled by a toxic mix of culture and religion.”  The rest of the article is a recitation of that litany, interspersed with jazzy catchphrases such as “[w]e are more than our headscarves and our hymens” and “poke the hatred in its eye.”

There is no way to deny the basic premise that the status of women’s rights in the Arab world is abysmal.  Why then did Mona Eltahawy evoke such a hostile reaction from even the Arab women whose rights she seeks to protect?  The easy answer, one that Eltahawy and her supporters might argue, is that these women are simply brainwashed.  Too much “Islamism” in their little brains.  The problem with this argument is that it’s sexist.  It’s basically saying Arab women are too stupid to think for themselves.

The real reason that Arab women recoil after reading Eltahawy’s article is that, while she tries to connect to them based on their gender, she attacks other aspects of their core identity: their race, nationality, religion, and culture.  In fact, her racist (and somewhat babbling) screed is nothing short of a vicious attack on their entire civilization.

Eltahawy cites “a toxic mix of culture and religion” as the source of the abuses against women.  Oddly, she later says, “You — the outside world — will be told that it’s our ‘culture’ and ‘religion’ to do X, Y, or Z to women.”  Yet, it is Mona Eltahawy herself who is arguing precisely that.

By attacking their core identity, Eltahawy has succeeded in alienating her own audience.  Imagine, for instance, an American feminist arguing for greater rights for African women, while at the same time assailing the black race, African culture, and traditional tribal religion.  How receptive or thankful do you think these African women would be?  How pleased would the black or African community be if someone was writing articles about how backwards their culture is?

Mona Eltahawy’s article engages in trite, racial stereotypes.  Legitimate problems in the Arab world are sensationalized.  They hate women.  What an absurd exaggeration!  They have mothers, sisters, wives, and daughters–and it is reasonable to assume that, like other human beings on earth, they love them.

A man can love his wife and still abuse her.  He can have undying affection for his daughter but still wrong her in horrible ways.  But, by going so far as to say they hate women, Eltahawy has dehumanized them.  One recalls similar invective against Palestinian parents: they don’t love their children.  The message being sent is: they are worse than animals.

Women’s rights is an area of concern in many parts of the developing world, not just the Arab world.  Why single out Arabs?  Women face major obstacles in India.  Should we demonize the Hindu religion and the great Indian civilization?

Eltahawy lists off “a litany of abuses”, bringing up extreme cases to make her point.  By citing isolated cases and stacking them all up together, she ends up portraying an imbalanced and biased picture of the Arab world.

Racists don’t see nuance.  They lump all people of a certain group altogether.  That’s exactly what Mona Eltahawy does in her article.  She paints the entire people of that region–or at least its men–with one broad bush.  They hate women.  All 170 million of them.

In fact, not all Arabs are alike.  During my travels in the Muslim world, I saw all sorts of people, with a broad diversity of views.  I met conservative Muslims, liberal Muslims, atheists, Christians, Communists, hippies, you name it.  No sweeping generalization could be made about them (aside for, perhaps, their disgust of American foreign policy).

It is true that I was deeply disturbed by the mistreatment of women, religious and ethnic minorities, poor people, servants, and animals.  But, I also met people there–men, no less–who were also deeply disturbed by these things and would have no part in it.

Just as the viral Kony 2012 video drew criticism for reinforcing the idea of White Man’s Burden, so too does Mona Eltahawy’s article tap into historically racist Orientalist attitudes towards the Arab world.

By firmly pegging abuses against women to the Arab culture and Muslim religion, Mona Eltahawy’s article was nothing short of bigotry.  Indeed, one could hardly tell the difference between Eltahawy’s article and what could normally be found sprawled on numerous Islamophobic websites, such as Robert Spencer’s JihadWatch and Pamela Geller’s Atlas Shrugs.  It is almost a surety that her article will be approvingly cited on such sites, which pit “our civilized, freedom-loving civilization” against “those barbaric, women-hating peoples.”

Had Mona Eltahawy been just any ole’ Islamophobe hacking away at the keyboard–had she been a Robert Spencer or a Pamela Geller–her article would hardly have made headlines.  It would have been just one of thousands and thousands of such hateful rants on the internet by anti-Muslim trolls.  But, like Irshad Manji and Asra Nomani, Mona Eltahawy has an official “I’m a Muslim” card.  That’s even better than the official “I’m an ex-Muslim” card that bigots like Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Nonie Darwish proudly carry.  It’s probably even a step above the “I’m a former jihadi terrorist” gold card.  Eltahawy holds the platinum card and gets extra points for being a woman.

As other pundits have noted, Mona Eltahawy is–along with Irshad Manji, Asra Nomani, Tarek Fatah, Zuhdi Jasser, etc.–acting in the role of the “native informant.”  Monica L. Marks writes on the Huffington Post:

Why Do They Hate Us?” asks the latest cover of Foreign Policy magazine. Beneath the title stands a cowering woman wearing nothing but black body paint resembling the niqab, or full Islamic face veil.

Egyptian feminist Mona Eltahawy authored the article. Her central contention — that Arab Muslim culture “hates” women — resurrects a raft of powerful stereotypes regarding Islam and misogyny. It also situates Ms. Eltahawy’s work within a growing trend of “native informants” whose personal testimonies of oppression under Islam have generated significant support for military aggression against Muslim-majority countries in recent years.

Books by these “native voices” — including Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s “Infidel,” Azar Nafisi’s “Reading Lolita” in Tehran, and Irshad Mandji’s “Faith Without Fear” — have flown off the shelves in post-9/11 America despite being roundly rebuffed by leading feminist academics such as Columbia University’s Lila Abu-Lughod and Yale’s Leila Ahmed. Saba Mahmood, another respected scholar, noted that native informants helped “manufacture consent” for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan by serving up fear-inducing portrayals of Islam in “an authentic Muslim woman’s voice.”

Although such depictions have proven largely inaccurate and guilty of extreme generalizations, they have become immensely popular. Why? Because these native “testimonials” tell us what we in the West already know — that there’s something inherently misogynistic about Muslims and Arabs.

By stirring up our sympathies and reinforcing our prejudices, individuals like Ms. Hirsi Ali and Ms. Eltahawy have climbed to the top of the media ladder. Their voices are drowning out the messages of more nuanced, well-respected scholars.

Marks goes on to say:

Her fault lies in extrapolating broad cultural judgments from context-specific abuses, implying that Islam and Arab culture writ large are have toxically combined to create a hopelessly backward region that “treats half of humanity like animals.”

These native informants just tell us what we want to hear.  Their job is to increase hatred of Arabs and Muslims, something that is needed in order to sustain our multiple wars of aggression in that part of the world.

Native informants do not help fix the problems they point to.  Why, for example, did Mona Eltahawy choose to publish her article in Foreign Policy, an American magazine?  Why didn’t she write it for an Arab/Arabic publication, with a primarily Arab readership?

Instead she chose Foreign Policy Magazine, which was founded by none other than Samuel P. Huntington.  His famous Clash of Civilizations theory pit the Judeo-Christian West against the Muslim world.  How very fitting that Mona Eltahawy’s us vs. them article was published in the magazine he founded.

Eltahawy’s audience is clear:

You — the outside world — will be told that it’s our ‘culture’ and ‘religion’ to do X, Y, or Z to women.

Monica Marks writes:

 It is important for her readers, however, to understand the dangers of sensationalist coverage that over-simplify complex matters of gender, politics, and religious observance in Muslim-majority countries.

History is rife with examples of seemingly women-friendly arguments hijacked in the service of imperialistic and aggressive ends. While emotional and sensationalist portrayals such as this most recent Foreign Policy cover will sell copies, they do little to deepen our understanding of the contexts and conditions shaping women’s oppression in Arab countries today.

Indeed, the issue of human rights was routinely used by the colonial powers to justify the conquest and expropriation of land.  The Americas, including the land that is now the United States, was brutally conquered and stolen by Europeans on this very basis.  The indigenous peoples were portrayed as savages needing civilizing.  The white man would bring them “democracy”, “freedom”, and “civilization” (Operation Iraqi Freedom?).

In her article, Mona Eltahawi enumerates numerous abuses Arab women face.  However, none of these inhumanities–not even female genital mutilation–can be considered as problematic as the cannibalism and human sacrifice that the indigenous peoples of the Americas sometimes engaged in.  And yet, whatever failings the indigenous peoples had in their culture and civilization, it is now widely understood who the real savage was.

We can continue to pat ourselves on the back for how civilized we are, how free our women are, how we are so much better than them.  But, none of that will change the fact that we are the ones waging wars of aggression and occupation in the Muslim world.  We are the ones killing hundreds of thousands of their innocent men, women, and children.

It was in another article, also published in Foreign Policy with almost the exact same title–Why They Hate Us?–that Prof. Stephen Walt calculated the number of Muslim lives the U.S. has extinguished:  “a reasonable upper bound for Muslim fatalities…is well over one million, equivalent to over 100 Muslim fatalities for every American lost.”  To use a jazzy catchphrase of my own: mutilating a baby girl’s genitals is horrible, but dropping a bomb on her head is much worse.

Danios was the Brass Crescent Award Honorary Mention for Best Writer in 2010 and the Brass Crescent Award Winner for Best Writer in 2011.

  • Zakster

    This brainless, all-too-eager-to-please lady is supposed to speak for independent, strong and observant Muslim women?

    What a joke…

  • Believing Atheist

    @Zangi,

    No, the Jewish state was legally established before WW2 or the Holocaust. It was acknowledged by the Balfour Declaration of November 2, 1917, and re-affirmed by the Mandate of the League of Nations. This declaration and mandate further have legal precedent via Article 80 of the UN Charter.

    Anyway this is not even the topic of this thread, so I am going to stop talking about it.

  • Nesim

    Am I the only one that finds it funny that the treatment of Arab women is literally being treated like it is a unique and utterly Arab issue?

    I also find believing atheists trolling hilarious and you guys need to stop feeding the idiot so he can go back to his home under the bridge.

  • Believing Atheist

    @Nur,

    I am really losing my patience with you. Where did I say that people are trying to deny her freedom of expression? I would like a quote of me saying this. Provide one to me.

    @aiman,

    Oh the the Nakba features very much in my analysis. I have stated several times that it happened and cited the New Historians to do so. I said it here in the comments for instance,
    http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/01/yehuda-bauer-israels-genocidal-nationalists/

    But if you are for the one state solution, how will you convince Israel to accept this plan? If not what is your solution. Yes I see you presented some historically accurate problems but what is the solution and how will it be achieved?

  • zangi

    @BA “Zionism is a legal right given to the Jews through international law to assert their self-determinism in the land of their ancestors. This right was given to them before WW2 or the Holocaust.”

    If international law is all it requires to justify an injustice then you should philosophically have no problem with these as well; when some one more powerful (who knows who will be the “international law” in a century or two) grants this very right to the following groups of people

    *The rights to native American to drive out (former) Europeans who settled in their land and ethnically cleansed them?
    *And the aborigines in Austria will have right to drive out the (former) Europeans in the same way.
    *Or to give the land back to Palestinians and give then the right to drive out (Israeli)Jews . after all if its ok to repeat 2000 year old history then it should be Ok to repeat 64 year old history.

    BTW no amount of arguments from Zionists can obscure the fact that Israel was created and made possible only by ethnic cleaning of Palestinians (Muslim and Christians). It was not accidental, it was planned. And the plan hasn’t ended, it is still work in progress.

    If mass murder and ethnic cleaning is a crime today, it was a crime in 1948 too.

    BTW if you are referring to sykes picot accord then that wasn’t international law. That was a treaty to cheat Arabs.

  • Mohammed Al-Arabi

    @TimothyHThe Arabs colonised those lands from other empires. Are you saying international law is shaped by special interests that panders to Arabs because they don’t tell them to give up their colonial interests? Should the Arabs give up their territories which they grabbed from the Christian Byzantines? If you bring colonialism into it, then you have to accept that the Christian Byzantines were colonised by Arab colonials. Nu?
    You do realize that much of the Arab world is made up of Arabized populations including those in Palestine? The Levantines are a mix of various groups that settled in Palestine over the centuries, including Greeks, Hebrews, Syriacs, Assyrians, and Arabs. The latter exerted the greatest influence over the local culture. If anything, the Muslim and Christian populations of pre-1948 Palestine, including perhaps the Jews of Safad (or all non-Aliyya Jews) were native to the land. The Jews of the Aliyyah were of a completely different stock by all means.

    Also, you cant really apply a colonial discourse on pre-modern societies. Core-Periphery discourses and imperial categories (or extractionary mechanism) are of course, relevant (we do speak of ‘Empires’ afterall) BUT questions of identity were irrelevant. This is why we use to have Universal Empires in the past – the Habsburgs, the Ottomans, the Qing…etc so talking about ‘Byzantine’ ownership of Palestine is nonesense. Heck, the very idea of the sovereign state only begins to emerge a 1000 years after the Arab conquest, in Westphalia…

  • Corey

    After reading the comments here and elsewhere on other websites, I wondered whether I missed something on Eltahawy’s article. Well, no, I hadn’t. The author makes it abundantly clear that she lays the blame for the horrific treatment of Muslim women on Arab culture and governments. Unfortunately she conflates culture with religion and deliberately lays responsibility on Islam for the abuse of women. She deliberately ignores that Arab governments have abused the tenants of Islam for decades to further their own oppressive agendas. While she does attack some men, she limits her criticism to a handful, yet manages to paint all Arab men with the same board brush. Having said that, her documentation of government abuses of women is solid and backed up by human rights organizations and the UN. If her critics are ready to dismiss the findings of Human Rights Watch, the UN, etc., then that’s another issue. But let’s not be fooled that Eltahawy’s is courageous by writing such an article. She is a Western feminist writing a Western narrative. She could write for an Arab language publication and focus her argument in Arab speaking women, but I suspect she believes she has no audience there and her Western rhetoric carries no credibility. She has a broader audience in the West. I am sure that Elawahy recognises that she only serves the West, but she is only writing for an echo chamber. I believe she unwittingly served with this article to further the cause of conservative warmongers. She is not quite the ex-Muslim-Islamphobe-Irshad-Manji-Hirsi type, but she has now crossed the line into neo-conservative realm of saving Arab women from themselves and the evil Arab men. I know many Saudi women who categorically reject Eltawahy’s brand of feminism, and now those doors for Eltahawy are closed forever after she attacked their husbands and fathers. Eltawahy lost the moral ground with her generalisations of Arab men but her overall argument is based in fact. Danios could of done a better job of making the distinction. For readers to speculate on the author’s private life or motivations is cheap and lazy. To point out the transgressions of other cultures and religions is also lazy. There is nothing wrong with holding a spotlight to Arab governments. Unfortunately for Eltahawy, she destroyed her credibility with the “why they hate us”introduction and her generalisations.

  • http://danielibnzayd.wordpress.com/ Daniel Ibn Zayd

    The major problem here is with mediation: English, in Foreign Policy, directed at a non-Muslim audience, talking about Muslims in a way that maps onto every aspect of every other Orientalist, racist, Othering non-Arabic language article/book/etc. directed at non-Muslim audiences talking about Muslims.

    The other major problem is the insinuation that this discussion hasn’t previously nor is currently taking place in Arabic, Urdu, Farsi, Turkish, etc. Among women, and among men and women of the Islamic faith.

    So this piece is riding the prevailing wisdom—the dominant discourse—and thus accomplishes nothing on the ground; it is thought without action; a useless spinning of wheels that calls all of us into defensive mode, wasting more energy that could be devoted to more fruitful endeavors.

    I agree with the response above that speaks of pan-Arabism in thinking that the level of inequality in this region is not doubted, but let’s please look at the economic, political, social, and cultural causes of that. Second, the potential for liberation, from within the faith, is leagues greater than anything the so-called civilized West has managed to come up with.

  • NurAlia

    It is very distructive to people who are out in the fields working for human rights, especially for the rights of women when a woman actually incites an arguement against men.

    What she did is the same thing that Terry Jones did by threatening to burn Qur’ans…not actually thinking of the concequenses of his actions…and perhaps trying to incite a ‘hopeful’ responce by them.

    People like Mona…at least in this article do not think of the impact thier words have on the people who are trying to change bad behaviors. When those who fight for women’s rights go into the places where Arabs live, and try to show that women have rights…we become ‘Monas’, and it is just one more obsticle they have to overcome to do thier job.

    No one is saying (believing athiest) that she doesnt have the right to say what she did…it is that alot of the time, what people say and do in the regard of ‘free expression’ is not reflective of the real world we live in…and in order to change wrongs, the non thinkers create more obsticles.

    I just want us to be mindful of this…because some of us have to deal directly with the actions of someone else who sits in a confy chair, behind thier computers…advoctaing the right of hate speech…and not thinking of what impact that hate speech has on those REAL WORKERS who try to make things good happen

  • HGG

    “Could someone please post a source confirming what Mona said”

    It’s from the UNICEF:

    http://www.unicef.org/media/media_57613.html

  • Sir David : Man on a phone with a french spell check

    Pablo
    She just wants to sell books I think she knows its not as simple as she portrays :-)

  • TimothyH

    To Some Guy

    You said:

    “As international law is shaped by special interests, particularly western plutocrats who have absolutely moral authority telling the very arabs whose lands were colonized that they need to make room for incoming jewish colonialism.”

    The Arabs colonised those lands from other empires. Are you saying international law is shaped by special interests that panders to Arabs because they don’t tell them to give up their colonial interests? Should the Arabs give up their territories which they grabbed from the Christian Byzantines? If you bring colonialism into it, then you have to accept that the Christian Byzantines were colonised by Arab colonials. Nu?

  • Abdul-Rahman

    @Ibn Mikael

    Good points, this clown Mona Eltahawy (clearly serving her imperialist, Zionist masters) just regurgitates the same usual anti-Muslim propaganda. As for one thing you mentioned marriage age, you made a good point. Even in the US people in most US states can marry before the age of 18. I know that many states allow marriage at 16 and I think I’ve heard lower like around 14 or so maybe (with parental approval) in some American states till this day. The majority of marriages in the Middle East today are at or after the age of 18. In fact many Islamic scholars note that people are delaying more and more as they seek a career path and people are not marrying until their 30s in some cases. In Islam we know this is not recommended as Islam does not allow sex outside marriage, so we are encouraged to marry as soon as we reach adulthood if possible.

  • http://www.muslimheritage.com Muslim Heritage.com

    Could someone please post a source confirming what Mona said:

    That 90% of Egyptian women have been clitorectimised.

    Why don’t these stupid ignorant men follow the tradtion of the Prophet who did NOT circumcise his daughters?

    In any case, i’d like to see some proof of this claim.

  • aiman

    BA: “I really don’t know what to say to that. So let me just quote Finkelstein”

    Proven by genetics? It is proven by genetics that we are all from Africa. Your comments on the Israel-Palestinian conflict indicate that are you are unfamiliar with post-colonial thought, how colonialism works, and the dispossession of Indigenous people around the world at the hand of rapacious power. The difference is that the Nakba doesn’t feature in your analysis. Through this selective quote mining, you define Zionism as a legitimate struggle, failing to note that it is not an original idea and is a common theme in all fundamentalist movements. Neither is suffering of a people a unique experience, fundamentalism usually follows suffering. While acknowledging the suffering of Muslims, I cannot sympathise with extremism. Similarly, while sympathising with the suffering of Jews and Hindus in their time, I cannot sympathise with right-wing Indian nationalism or Zionism.

    One of the best advices I have received is: “Be the shepherd, not the sheep.” I reserve my right to disagree with both Chomsky and Finkelstein. I think they are both wrong on BDS, the one state solution, international law (the US has been vetoing every reprimand against Israel), and in their failure to recognise that Zionism has no redeeming features. If it did, we could say the same for every unethical form of nationalism and that would make it incredibly problematic on how we define oppression. I would say that some Muslim posters on this site have made more accurate critiques against Saudi Arabia than delivered by Chomsky against Israel. Fortunately there are many Jews who recognise Zionism for what it is. Just as there are many Muslims who recognise “revolutionary Maududism” for what it is, an affront and heresy against the message of Islam.

  • DrM

    @Genie
    “I am not under the impression that Mona likes men.”

    Mona and Asra both had failed marriages. Irshad had daddy issues. A young Geert Wilders suffered from travelers diarrhea while in Egypt. So of course Islam, and all Muslim men are responsible. Just like I hold every Mexican responsible for the food poisoning I endured 15 years ago thanks to Taco Bell. La Raza be damned!

    Genetic studies(which are open to interpretation) cannot be used by Jews to justify their invasion of Palestine. African American don’t get to invade Africa either. So these studies have to looked at in a wider frame.
    A genetic study entitled, “The Journey of Man,” undertaken in 2002 by Dr. Spencer Wells, a geneticist from Stanford University, demonstrated that virtually all European males carry the same genetic markers found within the male population of the Middle East on the Y chromosomes.
    That is simply because the migration of human beings began in Africa and coursed its way through the Middle East and onward, stretching over many thousands of years. In short, we are all pretty much the same.

  • Believing Atheist

    @Some Guy,

    I am glad you responded. You and Shlomo brought the same disagreement on the Marwan thread here (though more Shlomo than you):
    http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/04/where-is-the-palestinian-nelson-mandela/

    But if you notice, you didn’t answer any of my questions so here they are again.

    If you choose to ignore international law who determines what is right and what is wrong on an international level?

    If you wish to ignore international law, this also means that no country is bound by it and so each nation can do whatever it pleases, so do you wish to have a world of utter anarchy?

    You cannot be an agnostic on the law. It is a one package deal as Finkelstein said. If you have a right to walk on the green it means that you have an obligation to stop on the red (also from Finkelstein).

    So if you believe international law has no validity, then the right of self-determinism also has no validity and say goodbye to Palestinian rights.

  • Pablo Palacio

    Interesting critique and somewhat interesting responses. Besides all the intellectual mud flinging I am wondering what useful message one can bring out from this “discussion.” There is some consensus here among the more informed about lack of nuance and questionable motivations. But do we think Mona feels a responsibility to “get it right” or does she just want to shake the hornets nest?

  • Ibn Mikael

    What exactly she do that was even remotely “courageous?” She just spouted off a litany of typical refrains: FGM, marriage to individuals under 18–which I will not call child marriage, because different societies have different views on when one ceases to be a child, beatings (hardly unique to any particular society), torture (which happens to both men and women), etc. etc.

    Nothing new in the article; just another way for her to draw attention. If she was actually interested in changing Arab culture, she should have published it in an Arab newspaper/magazine, not in a poorly circulated English language magazine that deals with a subject most Americans could care less about (foreign policy).

  • khushboo

    “90 percent of ever-married women in Egypt have had their genitals cut, for example — and doesn’t pull punches”

    Where did she get that info. from? I guess I must only know of the 10% who are not mutilated.

  • Genie

    I’m a western woman married to Palestinian and Mona’s article certainly does not speak for my circumstance, my man nor our sexual intercourse. None of his females relatives have been sexually mutilated and it is far from customary practice. I read her article on her blog last night. I question why Mona writes on Arabic culture for a western audience who can’t discern. For what purpose? This is what Ayyan Hersi does. Yes, it’s a job. And finally, I am not under the impression that Mona likes men.

  • Believing Atheist

    @Palestinian,

    I am not saying it science is saying it. Science says that both the Palestinians and the Jews share a a common pool of Y chromosome, indicating that the Jews that immigrated to Israel/Palestine are also the indigenous people of Palestine
    http://www.pnas.org/content/97/12/6769.short

    @Solid Snake,

    Thank you for your kind words as well.

    @Danios,

    I disagree but I won’t drag this debate any longer. You to your judgment me to mine

    @AJ,

    You can do so. But it would be up to me as an atheist to acknowledge those crimes and do everything within my power to prevent it next time (this can be done through raising awareness, lobbying, donating money to human rights orgs) etc. I wouldn’t make excuses for my community (not saying you’re doing so, but many have on this thread).

  • fox news

    Stereotyping it for the western audience is because they know how westerners easily fall for it and help their liberal agenda in Muslim countries. This crap she just said would go down the gutter if it was published in a Muslim country. She would be a laughing stock. But like the Israeli Zionist control over American minds that effects politics in other parts of the world, these guys are developing their own base of control to influence western nations to support their liberal agenda in Muslim countries. The timing of the article though seems like her bitterness of Muslim brotherhood winning elections over their own tool a.k.a Democracy.

  • http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/04/where-is-the-palestinian-nelson-mandela/ Some Guy

    @ Believing Atheist

    “I fail to see how being a liberal Zionist is like being a liberal supporter of Maududi. Zionism is a legal right given to the Jews through international law to assert their self-determinism in the land of their ancestors. This right was given to them before WW2 or the Holocaust.”

    Repeating previous errors once again I see ?

    Sorry but international law is utterly irrelevant on matters of judging zionism. As international law is shaped by special interests, particularly western plutocrats who have absolutely moral authority telling the very arabs whose lands were colonized that they need to make room for incoming jewish colonialism.

  • Abdul-Rahman

    Mona Eltahawy is a fraud and servant of Islamophobes and Western imperialist interests. Sister Heba Ahmed destroyed the lies of Mona in TV debates http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KabbzQXbZM

    This fraud Mona’s claims are both absurd on their own and also similar to some of the ridiculousness that comes out of modern Western “feminism”. I’m talking about Western “feminism” that know has branches that claim that pornography and prostitution of women allegedly “empower” women. And the absurdity of some Western “feminists” who make ridiculous statements like “well men can go around in public bare chested why can’t women?!” and then if they were to ever do this they would quickly shout “men are objectifying me!!”. These are the same Western “feminists” who also get angry if it is simply mentioned that the average man is physically stronger than the average woman (a scientific reality).

    Then as for Islam, Mona certainly knows that pre-Islamic Arabian society regularly buried their daughters alive. It was Islam that not only stop this evil practice but also brought women the right to own property, the right to inherit, the right to divorce, the right to choose their spouse, etc. As for the things Mona and other enemies of Islam try to bring up let me offer a refutation to their assertions.

    First, regarding female circumcision there is a difference between female circumcision and the extreme cutting that is known as “female genital mutilation”. With this difference noted, it should also be noted that neither of these happens in any sizable amount in the Middle East. In fact what is called “female genital mutilation” is actually more correctly termed Pharaonic circumcision and is in Africa and goes back to (as the name suggests) the practices of the ancient Pharaohs and the royal women of Ancient Egypt (i.e. certainly pre-Islam!). The few places, mostly in Africa, that do still have people practicing Pharaonic circumision include non-Muslim peoples in Africa and also contrary to what many would claim these are largely not even driven by the males of the society it is largely run by the older women of the society. Meaning it is the adult women who do practice on the younger women of the society (without men being directly involved) viewing it as part of becoming an adult (other regions of Africa have similar things with ceremonial markings made on the skin, elongation of the ears, etc)

    Then as for another common claim these people bring up, women not being allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia. This is one of the most ridiculous things Islamophobes go on and on about. First, here is a high level “Israeli” rabbi in the Zionist entity passing his own Jewish religious edict forbidding Jewish women from driving cars in “Israel” http://edition.presstv.ir/detail/158562.html. Also while I don’t agree with this silly Saudi law forbidding women from driving in the Kingdom, people need to keep perspectives in mind! Having personal knowledge of Saudi society I know that women play a powerful role in the society (even if largely “behind the scenes”) via suggesting marriages, etc. Also Saudi women are in the workplace, and Saudi women (who should be given the right to drive) get personal chauffeurs (which shows the Saudi monarchy’s silliness as this puts Saudi women, who should be allowed to drive, in close proximity with non-Mahram men).

    So just to close Mona is a pathetic imperialist puppet and liar.

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