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Ayaan Hirsi Ali: Sympathizes with Terrorist Anders Behring Breivik

Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Ayaan Hirsi Ali‘s autobiography is one in which she is the perennial victim of “Islam” and Muslims. When she first burst onto the scene in Europe she was received enthusiastically, as a “brave” woman who was informing the West about the dingy, backward and oppressive “Mooslims.” Ali positioned herself as the standard-bearer of Enlightenment values, affirming the superiority of the West over the Muslim East, confirming the wild-eyed-Orientalist essentializations and fears about pending Islamization.

Ali has always been a useful militant voice for the anti-Muslim movement, expressing vividly the racism and hate that they could only ponder in their minds but dare not speak. Take this sample of her extremism, in an interview with Reason Mag,

Reason: Should we acknowledge that organized religion has sometimes sparked precisely the kinds of emancipation movements that could lift Islam into modern times? Slavery in the United States ended in part because of opposition by prominent church members and the communities they galvanized. The Polish Catholic Church helped defeat the Jaruzelski puppet regime. Do you think Islam could bring about similar social and political changes?

Hirsi Ali: Only if Islam is defeated. Because right now, the political side of Islam, the power-hungry expansionist side of Islam, has become superior to the Sufis and the Ismailis and the peace-seeking Muslims.

Reason: Don’t you mean defeating radical Islam?

Hirsi Ali: No. Islam, period. Once it’s defeated, it can mutate into something peaceful. It’s very difficult to even talk about peace now. They’re not interested in peace.

Reason: We have to crush the world’s 1.5 billion Muslims under our boot? In concrete terms, what does that mean, “defeat Islam”?

Hirsi Ali: I think that we are at war with Islam. And there’s no middle ground in wars. Islam can be defeated in many ways. For starters, you stop the spread of the ideology itself; at present, there are native Westerners converting to Islam, and they’re the most fanatical sometimes. There is infiltration of Islam in the schools and universities of the West. You stop that. You stop the symbol burning and the effigy burning, and you look them in the eye and flex your muscles and you say, “This is a warning. We won’t accept this anymore.” There comes a moment when you crush your enemy. 

Reason: Militarily?

Hirsi Ali: In all forms, and if you don’t do that, then you have to live with the consequence of being crushed.

Ali is still used as a potent symbol by the acolytes of the anti-Muslim movement whenever they want to trot out the horrors of Islam, (remember her article on “The War on Christians”) and as their vision of what a “Muslim should be.”

Unfortunately for Ayaan H. Ali, her personal story is full of lies. She never saw war in Somalia, her family fled to Kenya. She was not forced into marriage, but willingly consented to it. She was never threatened with death or honor killing by her family.

Even though Ayaan H. Ali’s compulsive lying and long and detailed radical anti-Muslim activism is catalogued and a matter of record, she is still a darling of the Right. In this respect she lines up well with the fake ex-terrorists/fake ex-Muslims: Nonie Darwish, Wafa Sultan, Ergun CanerWalid Shoebat, Kamal Saleem and Zacharia Anani‘s of the world who routinely fleece crowds for untold sums, in return for providing the service of bashing Islam and making the crowd feel better about themselves.

Just as Walid Shoebat was recently paid to tell a crowd of Texans about the evils of Islam, and to once more recount the false story about how he transformed from terrorist to Jesus-freak, Ayaan Hirsi Ali was invited to Germany to receive the Axel Springer Award, to recount her “escape” from Islam.

Sympathy for the Devil

In her acceptance speech, Ali expressed her sympathy for terrorist murderer Anders Behring Breivik. Her writings were included in Breivik’s manifesto and she took the opportunity of the speech to try and distance herself from his actions while squarely putting the blame for Breivik’s massacre on his targets.

[T]hat one man who killed 77 people in Norway, because he fears that Europe will be overrun by Islam, may have cited the work of those who speak and write against political Islam in Europe and America – myself among them – but he does not say in his 1500 page manifesto that it was these people who inspired him to kill. He says very clearly that it was the advocates of silence. Because all outlets to express his views were censored, he says, he had no other choice but to use violence.

Firstly, notice the weaselly double-talk on behalf of Ali, she says she is only against “political Islam,” but the fact is, as we showed above, she wants “Islam crushed.”

Secondly, who exactly are the “advocates of silence” that are part of the grand conspiracy of aiding “Islam” in “overrunning” Europe? Presumably the Leftists, as David Vickrey writes sarcastically,

Yes, the “advocates of silence” left Breivik with no other choice than to hunt down teenagers systematically.  Who wouldn’t be driven to desperate acts by this terrible “leftist” conspiracy?

Shockingly, and perhaps because Ali gave her speech in English rather than German the crowd responded with a standing ovation. Vickrey notes,

Maybe because Ayaan Hirsi Ali was speaking English her words didn’t provoke outrage among the German listeners.  On the contrary, her speech was met with a prolonged standing ovation.  The first to leap to his feet and clap was the writer Henryk Broder – cited by Anders Behring Breivik numerous times in his manifesto as an inspiration.

However all was not lost, there was a voice of reason that stood up in the crowd,

Fortunately for us, however, a voice of reason was in the audience, and his reaction was reported in Cicero:

„Träume ich oder passiert das gerade wirklich?“, fragt raunend Daniel Gerlach, Chefredakteur der Zeitschrift Zenith, der im Publikum sitzt. „So reden rechtsradikale Verschwörungstheoretiker. Das ist der Gipfel, den Massenmord durch Breivik damit zu erklären, dass die islamische Gefahr in Europa von dunklen Mächten verschwiegen worden sei.“ Gerlach scheint einer der wenigen Zuhörer im vollbesetzten Festsaal zu sein, die über die Rede entsetzt sind.

(Am I dreaming, or did this really just happen?” asked an astonished Daniel Gerlach, editor-in-chief for the magazine Zenith, who was sitting in the audience.”This is how right-wing conspiracy theory believers talk.  This really takes the cake, explaining Breivik’s murderous rampage as the result of mysterious dark powers keeping quiet about the dangers of Islam in Europe.”  Gerlach seems to be one of the few listeners in the packed hall who is shocked by the speech.)

Breivik, like many in the Islamophobic right was an admirer of Ali’s, and there is no better way to conclude than the way Vickrey did,

In his 1500-page manifesto, Breivik expresses his deep admiration for Ayaan Hirsi Ali, writing that she deserves the Nobel Prize.  For the time being, she will have to make do with the Axel Springer Bild-Zeitung Prize.

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  • Steve

    “What evidence do you have that Muslims are selling Halal meat without labels?”

    I haven’t said muslims are selling halal meat without labels. I have said that unlabelled halal meat is being sold – several supermarkets in the UK sell unlabelled halal meat.

    “Oh I forgot you’re the same clown who suggested crudely painted swastikas on mosques couldn’t be the work of retarded neo-Nazis”

    I didn’t say that either, I said it wasn’t a nazi swastika I didn’t rule out that it could be the work of a particularly dumb neo nazi.

    “and that Islamophobia is just a figment of oversensitive Muslims’ imagination”

    I didn’t say that either.

  • han

    I’m always amazed how great the loss how reality is in such Persons.

    Btw its not the first time such persons and individuals openly show solidarity to justify crimes by the claim “the weren’t allowed to say anything against Muslims” despite the actually profit by the exact opposite situation in reality

    The come from the same kind of people who feel offend by the media reporting on Nazi political crimes as “patriots” demanding ethnic minority treated the same way for being the ethnic same.

  • HGG

    “I would encourage you to ignore any comments or commenters that are bigoted, I don’t think they are representative of most commenters here.”

    No, I don’t think they are, either.

    The majority of those who post in this blog are nice people and I enjoy reading their insights. Yes, I don’t tend to post essay-length replies because, more often than not, I’m not familiar with the subject (“Better to remain silent..”) and that’s why I come here, to learn. Ignorance, I believe, is the main source of bigotry. Poll after poll those who are bigoted against Muslims are those who have never even met one and whose knowledge of Islam comes from the absurdly biased filter of people like Spencer and Geller and organizations like Fox News.

  • Solid Snake

    @JSB

    Lol Alright thank you for the advice. Rest assured that I am much more careful in school than I am on the internet. Most likely because I am being graded 🙂

  • Garibaldi

    I’m nearly at wits end with comments, many of our commenters are mature, civil folk with the ability to debate and agree to disagree. Many commenters are also very knowledgable, and excellent tippers.

    We want to encourage that, but then we also have a deluge of hostile and bigoted insult hurlers on top of trolls who consistently engage in spamming from various IP addresses.

    @Amina, I would encourage you to ignore any comments or commenters that are bigoted, I don’t think they are representative of most commenters here.

  • Just Stopping By

    @Solid Snake: “tl;dr,and a cornucopia of recently invented words” Well, thanks to you and Google, I learned what “tl;dr” means!

    “If you have to worry about something, worry about the death of proper English and not my irrational aversion to commas!” I’ll give you props for the use of the word cornucopia, but proper English is suffering from your irrational aversion to those floating commas that we call apostrophes in “cant” and “dont” in your latest comment! 😉

    Good luck in school. As I said on a prior thread, I wouldn’t make these remarks if I did not believe that you were smart enough to benefit from them. From what I have seen in the business world, there are many people who think that they can write sloppily in personal communications without that affecting their writing in formal settings; frequently, they are wrong. And I have seen people lose out on jobs and internal job opportunities because of (perceived) poor writing skills. So, while attempting to change an Islamophobe’s thinking may be hard and often a fruitless task, I hope to achieve something positive today if I train my efforts on you. 🙂

    Now I have to proof this five times so that you don’t find a mistake in my writing…

  • DrM

    HGG,

    Comparing me to kosher porky again? You tried that before and ran off when I took you to task for that. I have no intention of letting up on illogical, irrational and increasing violent Islamophobes, they SHOULD be insulted, humiliated, ridiculed and have their “arguments” ripped apart. If an atheist twerp like you can’t handle that, well..that’s just too bad.
    Maybe you’ll have something of value to add..when you’re not weeping over Hitchens’ death or discussing comic books.

    DaMan,

    Uh, why post that link then? Sorry if I misunderstood you.

  • Solid Snake

    @JSB

    Yes! I am transferring to a four year University this fall, cant believe I will be a Junior this year! InshAllah all goes well for me!

    Sometimes we have to fore ourselves to dissect hostile and aggressive comments of new posters in hope of figuring out what they are trying to convey, and then providing the necessary refutation/explanations etc. But people who make it their calling card to post aggressive and hostile comments usually dont care for other peoples opinions.

    Lol I apologize 🙂 I usually write in a stream-of-consciousness style usually typing whatever idea/word comes up. And…wait a minute why am I explaining myself? This is the Internet, my dear JSB, where letters like LOL, OMG, tl;dr,and a cornucopia of recently invented words exist and mean something! If you have to worry about something, worry about the death of proper English and not my irrational aversion to commas! Damn those commas! :@

    Oh and by the way there are cheats that give you infinite ammunition, and in MGS simply wearing a bandanna gives you infinite ammunition.

    But on a serious note, your criticism is duly noted. I, will, try, to, use, commas, more, often.

    😀

  • Just Stopping By

    @Solid Snake: So, the college-age kid (if I remember correctly) is showing that he has a more mature attitude toward commenting than a lot of other people. 😉

    You and HGG are right that commenters who use a barrage of insults are generally not worth engaging with. At best, you can try to weed through the aggressive tone to see if there is any interesting thought in there, but that is usually not worth the effort. In my view, the more civil the commenter, then, generally, the more likely it is that they are actually willing to listen to what others have to say and to perhaps change their opinion on a topic if given new evidence. Those who tend to spew a stream of insults probably are more interested in asserting how correct they are rather than collecting information and challenging their own views. (Feel free to add in some proverb about God giving people two ears and only one mouth for a reason.)

    And, at a minimum, if you want to insult somebody, at least make it interesting, like questioning whether people who name themselves after video game characters realize that, unlike ammunition, the supply of commas for use in comments is not limited. 🙂

  • Géji

    HGG Says: Just ignore them. People like “DrM”, just like their counterparts like “Halal Pork”, are not worth time or effort.

    Outch!! halal pork!!!

  • Solid Snake

    @HGG

    You are correct sarcasm and irony are usually the best substitutes for the multi-adjective insults that I see being hurled about on LW comment section. I really really despise insults especially juvenile ones like ‘Bit#$’ ‘Whore’ ‘[FILL IN THE BLANK] Pig’. Although I have to admit in my anger i usually describe Islamophobes knee-jerk reactions and rabid militarism as ‘instinctual reactions akin to animals in the wild’ as if they are just reacting based on instincts and not reason. We all make mistakes here and there but some posters on here have made it their MO to begin their posts by using a long string of insults and having a very aggressive ‘tone’ in their posts, and to be honest I dont read those posts anymore.

  • DaMan

    You like me when I write at your blog DrM, why you insulted me, and call me dubm, I think you are the best Islamophobe blogger better than Loon Watch

  • HGG

    “What happened to respectful debate based on logic and facts?”

    Some are impervious to that, Amina.

    Just ignore them. People like “DrM”, just like their counterparts like “Halal Pork”, are not worth time or effort.

    “Although I have to admit it is tough having the patience to deal with some hostile posters here.”

    And yet, you’ve always managed to, Solid. Sometimes with sarcasm and irony (IMO, two of the best weapons against ridiculous statements) but never with insults.

  • DrM

    Stevie blunder,

    Angry? Hardly, I’m just fed up with your smug bigoted hypocrisy. What deluded you into thinking you were capable of debate, atheist troll? You’re repeating yourself like a broken without an iota of truth. What evidence do you have that Muslims are selling Halal meat without labels? None. Doing so would mean no Muslim would buy from them. Oh I forgot you’re the same clown who suggested crudely painted swastikas on mosques couldn’t be the work of retarded neo-Nazis, and that Islamophobia is just a figment of oversensitive Muslims’ imagination. You don’t realize how utterly ridiculous and disingenuous you sound. Don’t you have a date with Tommy Robinson?

    “DaMan” aka Dumbman,

    Wrong. Amina is too sensitive and ill prepared in dealing with the usual suspects, I have NO intention of taking it easy on liars and bigots, some of whom wholeheartedly endorse war and genocide. You’ve posted a link to a post by an anti-Arab Zionist idiot who took issue with my rejection of the obsolete 18th century definition of antisemitism i.e. Jews ONLY. He simply took a sentence from a post and repeated the already refuted charge. The simple fact of the matter is that Arabs are the largest group of Semitic people on Earth, and no amount of Zionist revisionism is going to change that.
    It didn’t work then, and it wont work now.

  • Géji

    Barbara says: “concepts like Jihad (perverting Christianity)”

    Ah! Remain us again since when comes about that Jihad concept means “perverting Christianity”?? I know there’s alot of Islamophobic perversions of Jihad’s concept out-there, but by Allah this is the first I’ve heard Barbara’s perversion.

    Hey Miss Barbara, how about you for once stop Islamophobically perverting Islamic concepts? per-favore?

  • Géji

    @Solid Snake & Amina

    Although both of you are right, I think straightforwardness sometimes can also be a benefit to help bring back to earth those that think they’re above the rest of common mortals. We’re only humans, so at times its very hard to stay nice all the time in the face of such hostility, its very hard to use kind words in the face of harsh and cruel ones. Sometimes, its best to let know that the Muslims although yes are instructed to counter the bad with kindness, doesn’t translate that they’re being bunch of cowards that’ll plays dead when intentionally walked upon.

  • Sam Seed

    @DaMan

    I am wrong? Please site an example. Have you had a recent success in debating an Islamophobe/troll my friend?

    I can debate with a rational mind that doesn’t resort to insults and name-calling, if a debate is what they want. I have no patience for those who copy and paste lies from hate sites. Like Critical Dragon has said it took him a while to realise the truth behind the lies and it wasn’t necessarily via Loonwatch.

    Insults are hurled back and forth all the time and debates do get heated but at the end of the day we are trying to defend ourselves from racists/bigots who peddle their hate on hate sites. Oh but that’s not enough for them, they have to come to Loonwatch to do the same.

    @Critical Dragon

    Thanks for clarifying, I can see that you’re the genuine article.

    @Solid Snake

    I echo the same sentiment on your last sentence.

  • Solid Snake

    @Amina

    Excellent post. Everyone should read it and take a minute. Even if they are trolls or irrational Islamophobic bigots, we must counter the bad with what is better and good. Although I have to admit it is tough having the patience to deal with some hostile posters here.

  • @DaMan

    Sam Seed is well aware that I’m a former Islamophobe. Unfortunately it took me a very long time to accept reality, despite all the overwhelming evidence against my old beliefs and despite the fact that those conspiracies are not something you’d expect someone to want to believe in. Part of the problem may have been that I didn’t want to admit that I was wrong, since it would mean admitting what I had been a part of for all those years. I read things in books and saw things that should have changed my mind instantly but, unfortunately, I either didn’t accept them or I came up with some ridiculous excuse for why they didn’t matter, and on the one or two occasions when I genuinely started to question it, earlier on, I allowed myself to be talked back into it way too easily. Maybe I just didn’t want to admit to myself what I had become a part of.

    When I stopped being an Islamophobe myself and started trying to fight against it, I wasn’t really surprised by how hard it was for me to change anyone who thought the way I used to think. Some of them are even worse than I ever was. For those reasons, I can understand why he doesn’t feel like debating anti Muslim bigots. Its usually not easy to change such people.

  • DaMan

    Sam Seed, you are wrong. You can debate with Loon Watch’s purpose is to debate with Islamophobes, there are ex Islamophobes here, like CriticalDragon777, the comments Amina is describing were written by DrM or Dr Maxtor, for some reason he doesn’t link to his blogger site, he is well known,

    “Dr. Maxtor” and Anti-Semitism
    http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/004409.html
    drmaxtor.blogspot.com

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