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The Nuclear Card

Sam Harris, “Profile the Muslim Looking People!”

Posted on 02 May 2012 by Haddock

Sam Harris continues the absurdist act that he has something intelligent to say when it comes to topics other than Neuroscience. We also learn that he possesses a 9mm, and travels with 75 rounds of ammunition, if the religion-bashing industry doesn’t work out maybe he can be the new spokesman for the NRA?

In a recent blog post, the pop Atheist guru writes that “we” should specifically profile Muslims at airports, and “be honest about it.” He is sick of the “tyranny of fairness” in which airport security searches people randomly when we all know that it’s the “Mooslims” who want to kill everyone on the plane. He concedes that he hasn’t “had to endure the experience of being continually profiled…”, and that he would find it “frustrating” if he had, but if someone looks like they may commit a crime (based on their ethnic appearance), they should be targeted for extra scrutiny.He uses the comedian Ben Stiller’s appearance as an example:

“But if someone who looked vaguely like Ben Stiller were wanted for crimes against humanity, I would understand if I turned a few heads at the airport. However, if I were forced to wait in line behind a sham search of everyone else, I would surely resent this additional theft of my time.”

Attempting to speak on behalf of the very people he wants profiled, he implies that Muslims should “welcome” profiling, at the very least it would “save them time!”

He goes on;

We should profile Muslims, or anyone who looks like he or she could conceivably be Muslim, and we should be honest about it.

Maybe Sam will want Muslims to wear crescent and star badges so as to be identified as “Muslim?” By saying “conceivably be Muslim” Sam is really saying any Brown, Middle Eastern or South Asian looking person, perhaps someone with a turban?

In a very poor attempt to soften the racialist tone, he adds this caveat;

And, again, I wouldn’t put someone who looks like me entirely outside the bull’s-eye (after all, what would Adam Gadahn look like if he cleaned himself up?)… (emphasis added)

As with most advocates of procedures that single out specific people for harassment, Sam Harris himself doesn’t have to experience the frustration that comes from this harassment. It’s easy to say, “Muslims should just cooperate and make it easier on themselves and everybody else” when one doesn’t have to experience such situations, multiple times, themselves.

He recounts earlier in the blog post an ironic experience he had at the airport whereby he “accidentally” smuggled nearly 75 rounds of ammunition past the inspectors, while a three-year old was momentarily taken from her family so that her sandals could be inspected.

I once accidentally used a bag for carry-on in which I had once stored a handgun—and passed through three airport checkpoints with nearly 75 rounds of 9 mm ammunition.

Question: What the hell is Sam Harris doing with 75 rounds of ammunition?

As of today (May 1st), he has added an addendum to his blog, complaining that some people didn’t take too kindly to his simply presenting the “facts” as he sees them. One of those basic “facts” is;

“…that, in the year 2012, suicidal terrorism is overwhelmingly a Muslim phenomenon. If you grant this, it follows that applying equal scrutiny to Mennonites would be a dangerous waste of time.”

He must have not read the report which stated that only 6% of terrorist acts committed in the United States from 1980-2005 years were committed by Muslims, and that even in 2012 an American is more likely to get struck by lightning than to be killed/hurt by a Muslim terrorist.

He goes on;

“1. When I speak of profiling “Muslims, or anyone who looks like he or she could conceivably be Muslim,” I am not narrowly focused on people with dark skin. In fact, I included myself in the description of the type of person I think should be profiled (twice). To say that ethnicity, gender, age, nationality, dress, traveling companions, behavior in the terminal, and other outward appearances offer no indication of a person’s beliefs or terrorist potential is either quite crazy or totally dishonest.”

Well that’s a sigh of relief! It’s not “just” dark-skinned Muslims that he wants to be profiled, but all Muslims! What universalistic spirit!

It has already been established that the more “Muslim” a person looks at the airport, the less likely they are to attempt anything violent on the plane. It simply would make no sense for a person to raise a thousand red flags in the minds of airport security, before they even board the plane. The entire point of a terrorist is to accomplish their goal, not to raise the suspicions of everyone around them before they get the chance to do so.

Since the stereotypical image of a Muslim in the minds of many is that of a “dark-skinned man of the Orient,” Muslim profiling is for all practical purposes racial profiling.

Juan Cole wrote about this on his blog nearly a year ago, when two Muslim clerics were forced to exit a plane because the pilot refused to fly if they were still on board;

“The terrorist costume is a simulated reality, circulated in Hollywood and countless news broadcasts, that evokes a causal relation between appearance and action. The terrorist costume is familiar to nearly all Americans: a thick beard, an ashen robe, brown skin, sandals holding dirty feet, and some sort of headgear, usually a turban (Sikh style, of course). The terrorist wearing this costume often sports a Qu’ran, so the audience can be certain that he is a Muslim.

Yet the acts of terrorism that have been committed by radicals of Muslim heritage involved perpetrators, like Mohamed Atta, who didn’t at all resemble the image of the Hollywood terrorist. Rahman and Zaghloul dressed in a way that set off alarms in some of their American co-passengers because the latter entertained Orientalist fantasies. Ironically, Muslim-American clerics are among the more law-abiding people in the country.”

Harris’s pro-profiling views are not shocking to anyone who knows his history of loonieness. Harris after all is the same unprincipled and bigoted individual, who has, as Bob Pitt noted;

backed Geert Wilders, joined the hysterical campaign against the so-called Ground Zero mosque and claimed that “the people who speak most sensibly about the threat that Islam poses to Europe are actually fascists.”

  • NurAlia

    I asked Geoff and Peter to tell us how they would identify a Muslim in a crowd of people in an airport.

    Both of the ‘justify’ the use of ‘profiling’, but neither of them can tell us how it works…what the ‘identifiers’ would be, and exactly what is a ‘devout Muslim’…and how he would act in an airport.

    I flew to China last year, and sat next to a Christian elderly woman who prayed the whole time she was on the flight…and held my hand because she was afraid to fly. Now…does that make her bad to pray to God in her own way in her own language?

    I wonder what Peter and Geoff would do if I prayed to God in my own way because I was afraid to fly? Would I be treated differently that the elderly woman for being ‘devout’?

    Tell us Peter and Geoff…how would you ‘profile’ a Muslim at an airport.

  • Adam

    Alright you stupid old man, tell me how you would profile a muslim?

    How then would you tell the difference between a serbian christian and a bosnian muslim? Both are white people.

    Or a blond haired blue eyed syrian muslim vs a blond haired blue eyed of another race and religion?

    Tell me how you would tell the difference you retard?

  • JT

    “Don’t come crying the next time a plane goes down because no one profiled the Muslim Arab.”

    And don’t you come crying when a plane goes down because security guards took Harris’ advice and focused only on Muslim-looking people and a terrorist who didn’t fit that description went through unimpeded.

    There are more useful and succesful ways of preventing terror attacks that don’t involve racial or religious profiling.

  • Pat Condell

    Once again, the PC liberal left try to jeopardize people’s safety because they don’t want to offend Muslims. Boo hoo. Don’t come crying the next time a plane goes down because no one profiled the Muslim Arab. Sam Harris is the Churchill to LoonWatch’s Chamberlain-esque appeasement lobby. Peace.

  • Benjamin Taghiov

    The Arab who saved my boy

    I remember the first time I realized that as a religious/rightist/settler I was expected to hate Arabs, or at least treat them as second-class citizens. It happened in high school, during a trip to Jerusalem. We passed through the Muslim quarter’s market and I wanted to purchase a small drum. I finalized a good deal with the peddler, when suddenly one teacher called me over, and quietly whispered: “We shouldn’t support the Arabs.”

    About six months ago, my partner and I decided to happily leave bourgeoisie life behind and move to a community located beyond the Green Line, for the sake of our children’s future. We are Zionists who love the land, yet it was not an idealistic move. We simply liked what we saw, liked the people living there, and stayed.

    Since then, I see them every day – cars packed with local Palestinian laborers undergoing security checks at the entrance to the community en route to our new construction project. I never gave much attention to them. It seemed natural to me that Arabs are building our community, until the week where this strange status quo shattered.

    It happened when I was on the way to kindergarten with my child. I met a neighbor and stopped to talk to her, when suddenly he let go of my hand and ran to the road to look at a tractor driving in reverse. One of the laborers who saw him immediately leapt to the road and pulled my child away. “It’s very dangerous here,” he told me. “Lucky thing you were here,” I responded, and added: “Thank you, you saved my child.”

    A day later, I left the community to go shopping and saw the same laborer waiting for a ride. Should I stop? I asked myself. It was a matter of seconds, and I just drove past him, leaving dust in my wake. “Chances are that he is a good person,” I thought to myself later. “Yet his friends already murdered six hikers in the nearby wadi. I can’t take a risk.”

    Indifferent to all of them
    I see them every day. They dive into the water at the spring next to the community, cut my chicken breast at the supermarket, and pack my bags at the cash register. On the eve of Independence Day, one of them even wished me a happy holiday (how was I supposed to respond – “Have a good Nakba day?”)

    They are almost always nice, smiling, and provide excellent service. At times I can’t help but ask myself: Why doesn’t it work between us? Why are they good enough to fix my pipes and build my home, but are not reliable enough for me to give them a ride?

    Why is it that every time I have a chance to return the favor, I’m thinking about horrific, racist scenarios such as: Maybe he’s a terrorist? Maybe he’s a rapist? Why is it that when the time comes to put my faith in people, I only trust Jews, as if there were never any rapists, murderers or criminals amongst us?

    But that’s life, and there’s no justice. A large group of people that only want to live peacefully are forced to pay a heavy price for the actions of a small, dominant and bloodthirsty group. What do good Arabs look like? I don’t know. I’m indifferent to all of them, including ones who truly don’t deserve it.

    Today, as is the case every day, I passed through the French Hill junction. Two Arab boys, apparently from the nearby village, cleaned the windshields of passing cars. Suddenly one of them walked over and started cleaning my windshield. “No, thanks. I washed my car yesterday,” I told him.

    “A shekel…” he whispered. “Just one shekel…” His face was full of scratches, and a huge scar adorned his neck. “In a different world, it could have been my own child at that junction,” I thought to myself, and was shocked by the very thought. The light changed and people started honking. I quickly pulled out my wallet and grabbed a 50 shekel bill. “Do good things with it,” I muttered to the boy.

    I drove on, and wouldn’t stop crying all the way to work.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4224464,00.html

  • Ilisha

    @Believing Atheist

    Nice post.

    Also, thanks for the tip. That AlterNet article is good, and I’d have posted it were it not for technical difficulties.

  • JD

    Land mines found in luggage at Newark airport

    Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/01/2777944/land-mines-found-in-luggage-at.html#storylink=cpy

    NEWARK, N.J. — A type of explosive widely used during the Vietnam War has been found in luggage at Newark Liberty International Airport.

    Officials say three Claymore mine casings were found in a New Jersey woman’s luggage as she passed through security at Terminal C on Tuesday morning.

    The Transportation Security Administration says two of the three casings were packed with shrapnel but none featured explosives or detonators.

    The woman told security officials she was attending explosives demonstration. She was permitted to re-book her flight to San Francisco and continue her trip without the weapons.

    Claymore mines are land mines that discharge steel fragments.

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    Ohh look the metal detectors and explosive detection system at the airport work and we dont even have to profile

  • http://www.youtube.com/dawahfilms DawahFilms

    I purposefully wear my traditional Islamic attire when I go to airports, just to prove a point. When people give me a hard time I ask them “did the hijackers wear this?” and they usually shut up.

  • Believing Atheist

    @Peter,

    Oh no, I linked that piece to show you the cause of terrorism. So if Sam Harris or you wish to stop terrorism in the U.S., a better strategy is to simply stop wars of aggression abroad. You know, it’s a cause and effect relationship.

    Now Peter you say that “but I wouldn’t agree that therefore abandoning all military alliances and operations abroad is the solution.”

    We are an uninvited guest in the ME especially but in other parts of the world as well e.g. Latin America. The people in the ME do not like our presence and so we install dictators to perpetuate our own stronghold there. Saudi monarchs, the monarchy of Bahrain, formerly Mubarak these are all backed by western funding and they use the money to put their citizens down.

    Now that creates hostilities and resentment and this is unnecessary. Better to abide by a non-interventionist foreign policy. Remember non-interventionist does not mean isolationist. So we can still cooperate with people in those regions and trade with them and have cultural exchanges we just won’t intervene in their politics.

    Isn’t that a more cost-effective mechanism to reduce terrorism, then say profiling is?

  • Peter

    “It is a simple fact that the overwhelming majority of terrorism in America is committed by non-Muslims.”

    If you count spraying graffiti as terrorism, no doubt.
    But we’re talking airliners blown to pieces. That’s the reason of the enhanced security after 9/11, not property damage.

  • Peter

    @Believing Atheist
    “I would like Peter and LW to both read this article published today on alternet.”

    I have read about half of it but it doesn’t touch the subject of profiling.
    I would agree that the US meddling in foreign countries’affairs provokes terrorism, but I wouldn’t agree that therefore abandoning all military alliances and operations abroad is the solution.

  • Sean

    If I were a brown-skinned Muslim terrorist, I would dress in a keffiyah and dishdasha and transport my bomb in my carry-on luggage. This would be much more likely to succeed than setting off a car bomb at any of the border crossings between Mexico and the US, where I could dress like a Mexican laborer commuting to my job across the border and blend right in.

    Makes as much sense as anything else this racist neocon twit says, which isn’t much.

  • Geoff Cavendish

    “My criticism of Islam, as of any other religion, is aimed at its doctrine and the resulting behavior of its adherents. I am not talking about races of people, or nationalities, or any other aspects of culture.” (Harris the end of Liberalism)

    Then why this, Sam

    “It is not enough for moderate Muslims to say “not in our name.” They must now police their own communities. They must offer unreserved assistance to western governments in locating the extremists in their midst. They must tolerate, advocate, and even practice ethnic profiling.” (Sam Harris, Bombing Our Illusions, 2005)?

  • Link182

    Peter posted: ‘’So you would abolish checks on everybody? Don’t you think that will invite another 9/11 attempt?’’

    Nobody is suggesting that checks should be abolished. We are simply observing that it is not rational to suggest that Muslims should be subject to ethnic profiling. (Of course, there is no such race as ‘Muslim’ but Harris appears to believe you can tell just by looking). It is a simple fact that the overwhelming majority of terrorism in America is committed by non-Muslims.* Consequently, calls for the ethnic profiling of Muslims are based either on ignorance or the perpetuation of racist stereotypes.

    *http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/

  • Link182

    Daniel posted: ”He may be a brilliant scientist, but beyond his area of expertise, he is an idiot and a bigot.”

    An idiot and a windbag he is but a brilliant scientist he is not. Harris did not receive a university degree until he reached the age of 40 (which was very recently). He has produced nothing whatsoever of note in neuroscience other than an entirely unremarkable paper in which he proved he could use an fMRI machine. To attach superlatives like ‘brilliant’ to this person is to commit an unforgivable and grotesque misuse of language.

    By the way, did Harris provide any evidence in support of his claim that the vast majority of suicide terrorism in 2012 is carried out by Muslims?

  • Believing Atheist

    I would like Peter and LW to both read this article published today on alternet. Maybe then Peter may change his mind, I would also like LW to republish the article here if it deems it worthy.

    Title: The Obama Team Just Doesn’t Get It: US Violence and Occupation Spark Terrorism
    The subtitle of the article is: There is almost no discussion about why so many people in the Muslim world object to U.S. policies so strongly that they are inclined to resist violently.
    http://www.alternet.org/story/155246/the_obama_team_just_doesn%27t_get_it%3A_us_violence_and_occupation_spark_terrorism/?page=entire

    Please read it both LW and Peter.

  • Cockatiel

    Sam Harris only called himself a scholar of Islam after tuning in The Bill O’Riley Show.

  • Peter

    @NurAlia:

    “The security check is simply a phycological tool to keep Americans in fear”

    So you would abolish checks on everybody? Don’t you think that will invite another 9/11 attempt?

    “[Bin Ladin] wanted to destroy American ideals, values, intergaty, moral and ethical values, and replace it with fear, hate, and bigotry.”

    Some people tell me that he wanted to punish America for it’s crimes, like sanctions in Iraq, it’s presence on Saudi soil and the support of Israel.

    “when you define your enemy by the way he looks, you have given him a weapon to use against you”

    Everybody is profiling. When you cross a lonely street at night, you’re probaby more suspicious of a male following you than a female. You would be right, because the vast majority of sexual attacks if committed by males. So should I feel offended when a women looks over her shoulder because I am a male? Should i feel like I am dehumanized and that society made me an enemy?

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/GargamelGold?feature=mhee CriticalDragon1177

    @Haddock

    Must read,

    Another atheist, Chris Stedman, Argues against Sam Harris’s position and asks him to visit a mosque with him, hoping to change his mind when it comes to Islam.

    Sam Harris, Will You Visit A Mosque With Me?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-stedman/sam-harris-racial-profiling_b_1472360.html

  • JD

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    They pretty much all have arab names.
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    Malik Sealy Baskey basketball player not muslim also black
    Ibrahim Hooper works for CAIR muslim and white
    Omar Sharif Actor Christian
    Nassim Nicholas Taleb Professor of Mathematics at the Polytechnic Institute of New York University not muslim
    Fawaz Gerges works for ABC not muslim

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    Look, the purpose of post-9/11 airport checks is to prevent planes from exploding, not to ease delicate sensibilities.If muslims prefer their lives more than their “honor”, sure they should welcome profiling.
    Muslims know full well that Christians or Jews or Hindus or Atheists are not going to engange in a suicide mission, and the government has no obligation to pretend otherwise.
    ================

    There are a billion Muslims around the world, and millions of Muslims in the U.S. Only a very small percentage of these Muslims have attacked, or plotted to attack, airplanes. It would be a huge waste of the government’s time and money to interview and search all Muslim passengers, since most of them are innocent. Collecting intelligence before passengers get to the airport is a more effective way to stop people who pose a threat. For example, the 2006 plot to bomb planes flying from London to the U.S. was stopped before any of the plotters got to the airport.
    And Yes Black Americans should be ok with random pull over on the Highway because its more honorable to be picked out in a crowd profiled humiliated time wasted because of a ASS-sumtion that your a criminal.

  • Daniel

    JT, well said. Terrorists may be evil, but they are generally not stupid. Even the 9/11 hijackers knew better than to wear traditional garb or even wear beards. Secondly, names are not necessarily an indication, either–many Muslims have non-distinctive names, and many Arabic Christians (or even Hispanic people of any religion) have “Muslimy” names. It is clear that no matter how much one tries to say “it’s not racist, it’s religious” (as if religious bigotry was any better) it ultimately becomes racist being that only certain ethnic peoples will end up looking “Muslimy”.

    Might as well start profiling black young kids in “white” neighborhoods wearing hoodies…it worked out well for George Zimmerman, didn’t it?

    Oh, and I like how “suicide bombers”=”terrorist”. While suicide may be repugnant (though to many it seems morally neutral at worst), it is the PURPOSE and the TARGET that something is a “terrorist” attack. Attacking the military of a foreign nation occupying your country is not “terrorism”, unless you want to reclass all resistance movements throughout history as “terrorism”.

  • Young & Free

    Not this genocidal piece of S#%# again! He used to be just genocidal, and now he’s a racist as well @_@ LOL at him believing in psychics. Cue the X files sound track.

    To the person who asked about his position on Israel, he supports it. His argument is something like “As a non practising Jew, I support Israel because I hate Arabs, and they’re all terrorists, and the ones who aren’t are irelevant”. Paraphrasing :P http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/islam-and-the-future-of-liberalism Make of it what you will.

  • Truth Seeker

    A bad name is worse than a bad deed .Sadly,the Muslims will have to live with that for some time now.Good deeds are often forgotten quickly but the bad ones stick longer in memory.Unfortunately,Muslim history has been full of bloodshed,rapes,injustice and mostly cutting one anothers throats.I hate the inconveniece during air travel now.It used to be such a pleasure once with beautiful heavenly creatures looking after you through out the flight.Alas,After 9/11,all that has changed.Thanks to the Janna seeking terrorist friends.I hope,they are enjoying 72 young virgins each instead of old CATHOLIC VIRGINS there.

  • Peter

    “anyone who thinks terrorists will walk into an airport with a turban, beard, in full robes and sandals and with a Qur’an in hand, has been watching too many films.”

    Well first i’d like to note that Hollywood doesn’t make films about islamic terrorists because they’re scared of “stereotyping”. “The Sum of all Fears” had islamic terrorists originally, but after the 9/11 attacks the scripts was changed in order to avoid offending muslims.
    Instead, they made countless films against the “war on terror” like Rendition, Taxi to the Dark Side, Lions for Lambs, Redacted, No End in Sight, Standard Operating Procedure, War Inc, Battle for Haditha, Body of Lies, Green Zone etc. etc.

    And sure you’re right that potential muslim terrorists boarding a plane would try to look “western”. Mohammad Atta had the common sense to shave his beard because he knew he’d raise suspicion when “flying while muslim”. That doesn’t mean profiling is useless, just that authoraties have to be a little more creative than just spotting signs of islamic piety. Even if we don’t catch one terrorist by looking for arab males, were making it infinitely harder for terrorist groups to find recruits, because 99% of willing “shaheeds” are arab males. And really, what is the chance for a 80 year old white woman or an 8 year old chinese-american to be an Al Qaeda member. Just leave these obviously harmless people alone!

  • JT

    Peter, profiling people who you think are Muslim won’t help. If airport security are allowed to do so, they will go along with your assumption that only Muslim-looking people (brown, bearded preferably with a turban) are terrorists, and then they will only check those people.

    And while the security guards will be patting themselves on the back that they are safe because the brown people are being searched extensively, Al-Qaeda will send in some clean shaven, blue eyed white man and he’ll be let right through.

    Juan Cole is spot on, anyone who thinks terrorists will walk into an airport with a turban, beard, in full robes and sandals and with a Qur’an in hand, has been watching too many films. Terrorists don’t look like that. Al-Qaeda will respond to any changes in American security procedures, so there’s no point inconveniencing all Muslims. It will make you less safe, because security guards will work on wrong assumptions and you’ll lose support of the Muslim community.

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