@Skeptic

Yeah, the thing is, your first statement would be pretty powerful if it was actually correct.

Oh really, you call such a powerful movement, recognition by over 100 nations, and increasing international sympathy with increasing condemnation an exercise in futility. Take the example of South Africa, my friend, and see for yourself how these movements grow.

What the f**k are you talking about? No one is talking about bringing down Israel. That is certainly not my position.

Um, maybe they f***ing could build themselves back up if they weren’t being colonized, kept In horrible conditions, and held by other oppressive means by Israel!

The reason why they experience poverty is because of Israeli policies to begin with. I wish you could see this, but you keep insisting illogical and bizarre shit like how those who advocate for human rights and who are anti-apartheid are trying to destroy Israel, etc.

Those who are against Israeli policies actually largely do not intend to destroy or bring Israel to it’s knees. Many, such as myself, would like to see the situation rectified by seeing tat Israel discriminatory and apartheid policies are put to an end, and for a one state solution to manifest.

You talk of Palestinians in very condescending and dehumanizing terms. Such rhetoric is typical of people like you.

@Al-razi,

I am not a zionist or I have special relations but I call it like I see it.

It is nothing but an exercise in futility really.

Well, they can continue on with their current mindset in hopes of bringing down Israel or they can start focusing building themselves up like the defeated WWII countries and Vietnam.

Israel will probably be around for next few hundred years and the Palestinians will continue celebrate nakba after nakba while living in abject poverty and voting crappy leaders who brainwash them all the time.

Even if Israel disappears, all these won’t change. Even after every UN resolation + world nation votes, it won’t affect anything.

I will keep laughing when I see and hear about palestinian supporters talk about bringing Israel to their knees while their GDP and economy remains unaffected.

Their Choice.

Oh really?

1) I think you are the one who is silly, observing your statements. I think you live In a fantasy world where you see, where you Jews as constantly under attack. You seem to forget that it was Jewish zionists who established Israel to begin with, forcing the Palestinians out of their homeland. Jews aren’t persecuted anymore, now in Israel since the inception of the state they have been the persecutors, within the Israeli context. Just because one group, the Jews, have been persecuted in the past does not give them the right to attack others.

2) There is no other alternative? HA! That’s a good one. What?, there is no other alternative to robbing land from a native people and committing ethnic cleansing against them in the name of a barbaric doctrine? I am not surprised by the utter lunacy of this statement, within Israeli and amongst Zionist ranks therein lies many who adhere to a surprisingly warped way of thinking and viewing the world. One example of this warped thinking is the belief that what Israel is doing to the Palestinians is somehow justified.

3) Your bizarre, childish, and inverted way of thinking quite amuses me. You hold on to that ridiculous belief that at any moment Jews are threatened with their very existence if you want to, but again, I sincerely ask you to reevaluate that thinking. You can live in your little bubble where it’s 1938 again, but just keep in mind the difference between that bubble and reality.

4) If only leftists from western nations cared, then why have over 100 countries recognized the Palestinian state? Why is there a growing movement within the world on a global scale to attain justice for the Palestinian people. Why has the UN condemned Israel for its actions and respective violations of international law? Even within Israel itself, there are human rights groups which strive for Palestinian justice.

No one is using the Palestinians as a political tool, contrary to your outlandish claim. The world is becoming increasingly concerned about Israeli apartheid against Palestinians.

Yes, you have made many ridiculous claims here, but once again I am not surprised. People like commonly live in a fantasy bubble where Israel is the ‘golden city on the hill’. No matter how revolting and horrible an action is committed by Israel against the Palestinians, you people will always try to justify it, through primarily ridiculous and incredibly bizarre assertions.

@Skeptic

Lol, unless you consider ethnic cleansing and offence to be defense.

I never said that people shouldn’t defend themselves. What I said was that Israeli policies regarding the Palestinians are atrocious and much of the current ideology responsible for these crimes is because of Zionism, which in turn draws much of its justification from a book that should have been left in the dustbin to rot hundreds of years ago.

If you call illegal settlements, ethnic cleansing, and apartheid because of religious doctrines defense and security, then I sincerely ask you to reevaluate your thinking. Yet I am not surprised at the irrationality displayed here by you, as people who adhere to such ridiculous religious doctrines/associated ideologies usually are incredibly inverted and childish, not to mention bizarre in their thinking.

@Al-razi,

Yeah Jews should not be allowed to defend and provide security themselves right?

How dare they!

What do you expect from low life ziotrash who are protected by the idf, the most immoral army in the world?

Judaism, like other religions, is so ridiculous and idiotic in it’s claims that it simply doesn’t fail to amaze me to know that many people actually believe it.

The chosen people, Leviticus, barbaric laws, sexism, a belief that they are entitled to a special area of land that was meant just for them- I really don’t know how painfully mentally inhibited one has to be to believe all of that bullshit.

I support a one state solution. And Israel should NOT be a Jewish state. It should be a democratic state where everyone is given equality, and one in which Jews are not favored above anyone else.