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The Nuclear Card

Muslim and Jewish Students Debate Islamophobia and anti-Semitism

Posted on 14 June 2012 by Emperor

Interfaith gathering, getting to know one other and discussing ways to combat hate:

Muslim and Jewish students debate Islamophobia and anti-Semitism

by Habeeb Ali (BikyaMasr)

Toronto, Canada – When I told people that I wanted to organise a speech competition for youth on anti-Semitism and Islamophobia, the most common reaction I received was, “That would be hard.” However in late April 2012, 16 students from Muslim and Jewish schools, as well as public schools, in Toronto came together at the North American Muslim Foundation to participate in the 10th occasion of this annual event.

Despite some initial discouragement, I felt the connections between anti-Semitism and Islamophobia were important. These two issues are often dealt with separately by Muslim and Jewish communities in Canada, but both groups have a great deal to offer each other as they work to overcome prejudice.

As such, my colleagues at the North American Muslim Foundation and I brought together a group of interested young people to address the question: do Jews and Muslims face the same challenges and do these challenges present opportunities for joint solutions?

Many of the participating students talked about personal experiences, such as their synagogues being vandalised with graffiti, or facing increased scrutiny at airports in the post-9/11 era.

Though the experiences were different, many felt that they were speaking with the same voice, only from different religious and cultural perspectives.

One young Muslim competitor described how she came to see criticism for wearing the hijab, or headscarf, in school as an act by one person and not an entire group. A Jewish student agreed, saying that when his synagogue was vandalised with graffiti it wasn’t a statement from the entire community, but a crime by one individual against a community.

A Jewish student reminded an audience of Jews, Christians and Muslims that working for harmony and standing up for religious freedom is every person’s duty.

Another Muslim student, whose experience of Judaism had previously consisted only of negative stereotypes, acknowledged that this speech competition changed her mind. As she reflected on the ways that both communities have struggled with stereotypes, she found common ground in the struggle to overcome them.

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  • Steve

    @Sir David, I don’t speak or read arabic

  • Sir David Illuminati membership number 16.69

    Steve

    as you say, the koran has nothing but praise for judaism he must have heard some of that given he is a muslim.”

    Nope never said that .
    Its much more complex than that ,thats why I suggested that you read the Quran.

    David

  • JT

    Grace, there is no such thing as a doctrine of “taqiyya” that allows Muslims to lie freely:
    http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/08/taqiyya-the-ultimate-intellectual-cop-out/

    If you still believe it exists, you are stupid.

  • Géji

    @AJ

    The likes of Steve cannot even get their own pressure ‘on’, let alone get someone else’s ‘up’. It seem all they’re capable of doing is perroquet the same old tunes their Islamophobic masters teach them way-back some 11 years ago. Their brain incapable of anything else other than chant in repeat, I sure you heard of – Put the blame on Islam boy, Put the blame on Islam … Put the blame on Islam girl … Put the blame on Islam … ! –

    As well as, one of their other favorite tune, titled – Its Raining Bombs .. in Mecca … Raining Drones .. in Medina … ! – which is precisely the tune another loon named daccal singed for us today. Maybe its time for Muslims to produce – Obsession: Radical Islamophobia’s War Against Mecca & Medina.

    My little niece who was setting beside me when I was replying to him, said and I quote – “If he ever touch Mecca! I’ll cut-off his ziz@@!!”, lol, which as fireee as she is (shes French), I’m sure she meant it. Although she’s young and has not been to Mecca yet, she developed a passion for it, always collecting posters and watching hajj videos. But what worries me more concerning this sickness named Islamophobia, and those that resides in her primitive village like the likes of Steve, daccal, Susanna, Proverb, and the rest of LW loonatic screws, is the fact that Muslims kids in the West are growing up to this, which I’m sure none of those simpletons give a hoot about it. But I agree that they do not worth to waste breathe over, at least until they decide to leave the primitive village of Islamophobia.

  • Grace

    I wonder if there is a connection between jihad/sharia/Caliphate and Islamophobia!

    Taqiyya: No of course not!

  • JT

    Steve, if the person is a non-Arabic speaker he/she will have to use a translation of the Qur’an but you can’t assume every Muslim has. I only know a few Muslims who have actually read the whole Qur’an in English. Everyone has read it in Arabic and recite it daily in prayers, but it’s an extra effort to read it through entirely in English and unfortunately too many Muslims don’t make that effort.

    So it is in fact very reasonable to assume that the Muslim in question may not have read those verses that refer to Jews as the people of the book who believe in the same God etc. It’s very stupid of you to think that every Muslim will be aware of every verse of the Qur’an. It’s no different to asking Christians whether they’re familiar with a certain passage from Exodus and Deuteronomy, because almost no one has ever read the whole book these days.

  • Steve

    Ok, I get that, it is impossible to be a muslim unless one is fluent in koranic arabic

  • Ilisha

    @Steve

    The Qur’an is only in Arabic. If it is translated into some other language, it’s always considered an interpretation. A translation never yields precisely the same meaning, and great effort has been placed in keeping the Qur’an in its original form, down to the last letter.

  • Géji

    @JT, for Allah sake don’t feed the troll, for Steve is just not “possible” for him to hold something smart, other than to let us know how he daily “experience” anti-Muslim bigotry due to because its Islam faults if he do so!!

    But Steve, Islam as my daily order of the day, ask me to say, say! – Steve is an anti-Muslim bigot! so there you have it Steve. And I’ll let you know tomorrow what the Islamic order of day is !

  • Steve

    “The Qur’an is in Arabic. If he doesn’t speak it, it’s possible he may not have ever learned the meaning of those passages”

    I have seen loads of korans which weren’t in arabic

  • http://aayjay.wordpress.com AJ

    Geji,

    Don’t get your blood pressure up over Steve. He/she/it is just a troll and has nothing meaningful to say except to rile people up.

  • Steve

    Geji, I am sorry you misunderstand me. I am genuine in my questions. How can a muslim lead a life “whose experience of Judaism had previously consisted only of negative stereotypes” – how is that possible given the entirely positive stance the koran has on judaism?

    It’s a genuine question. It isn’t my quote, it is from the muslim who is reaching out to other faiths (and surely we all welcome that)

  • Géji

    Steve Says: “I meant given he is a muslim surely he attends a mosque where the koran will be read so surely he has heard all the great and positive things the koran says about Judaism”

    Wow!! I cannot get more Islamophobically @Steeeve than that!! So, this is what you had in mind when you asked you’re bizarre question? you where looking for some bad worms like you to immediately blame Islam and its “koran[sic]” or its Mosques or Imams ect.. for the kid’s negative impression of Judaism? à la because of course Islam orders her to do it, right!? Of course it can never be “possible” her parents maybe be Palestinians, or that hence because of the Jewish state behavior, or never “possible” that it may be simply because of some of her fellow students and friends whether they’re Christians or Muslims, no Islam orders her right!! So how orders YOU to be Islamophobic?

    > “yet apparently his “experience of Judaism had previously consisted only of negative stereotypes” – surely being a muslim he will have been exposed to all the wonderful, positive, things in the koran about the jews and judaism yet he claims never to have read or heard those passages.”

    So her negative impression is because “surely being a [sic]muslim” right? Steve, you’re just a bigot among the bad-apples I’ve talked about that are poisoning this world, from you crap tower all you see is black and white, you cannot even locate where your ass is from you mouth! lets alone what the “koran[sic]” is. But of course it says Islam orders us Muslims stupid!!!!

  • JT

    “What has arabic got to do with it?”

    The Qur’an is in Arabic. If he doesn’t speak it, it’s possible he may not have ever learned the meaning of those passages. We don’t know, but that’s one possible reason he may never have read those verses. But I agree with you, if someone does read and understand the Qur’an properly, as well as the Hadith, then there’s no way he will hate or have negative stereotypes of all Jews.

  • Steve

    @Sir David, I know what it mentions.

    I suppose some might feel that way because of Israel. I suppose the same could be said about members of the islamic faith and the actions of nations such as saudi arabia.

    I am not questioning that though, I am questioning the assertion that his “experience of Judaism had previously consisted only of negative stereotypes” – given, as you say, the koran has nothing but praise for judaism he must have heard some of that given he is a muslim.

  • Sir David Illuminati membership number 16.69

    May I suggest you read the Quran yourself Steve , in English it mentions the people of the Book , thats jews and christians ,quite often .
    Dont you think some of the political actions of the state of Isreal might by some chance be taken as refecting bady on members of the Jewish faith worldwide?
    ( I am very proud of how diplomatic that last sentance is ;-) )

  • Steve

    @JT, I didn’t say it was definitely due to the koran, quite the opposite in fact, yet apparently his “experience of Judaism had previously consisted only of negative stereotypes” – surely being a muslim he will have been exposed to all the wonderful, positive, things in the koran about the jews and judaism yet he claims never to have read or heard those passages.

    What has arabic got to do with it?

  • JT

    Steve, how can you be so sure the negative stereotypes are definitely due to the Qur’an? How do you know the student even understands Arabic?

    There’s plenty of negative anti-Jewish stereotypes out there that have nothing to do with the Qur’an.

  • Steve

    “But anyway, what do you mean by “How is that possible?””

    I meant given he is a muslim surely he attends a mosque where the koran will be read so surely he has heard all the great and positive things the koran says about Judaism

  • Just Stopping By

    @Géji: Well said.

  • Géji

    The author says — “Another Muslim student, whose experience of Judaism had previously consisted only of negative stereotypes” —

    @Steve replies: “How is that possible?”

    Here we go again! Steve, have we decided to go “aside” yet again? perhaps trying to dig-up some bad worms?

    But anyway, what do you mean by “How is that possible?” which part do you not get as “possible” happening from that you quoted? – Are you suggesting its not “possible” for others to experience negative stereotypes about other religions other than the religion of Islam? in this case Judaism? — Or are you suggesting its not “possible” for Muslims to have negative stereotypes about other religions while certainly its “possible” for non-Muslims (like you) do so about theirs, and quite proudly LOUD about it. But more importantly, what was those reasons that provoked your negative felling that made “possible” for you to “dislike” Islam? was it because your experience of Islam consisted of something like .. I don’t know .. negative stereotypes ?? maybe if you look a little deeper at those reasons that made you “dislike” Islam, you’ll be able to find the answer to own question!

    And by the way, before you hastily threw us yet one of your “aside” well-thought questions. Did you ever give a though that maybe the kid’s negative impression about Judaism consisted of people around her stereotyping Judaism for the bad deeds some Jews do? or that they do it because Judaism “orders them”? you know, kind of à la when Islam constantly orders Muslims to produce bad deeds on daily basis? which I’m sure you “experience”, hence very logical to “dislike”.

    But two things to get from this Steve. First, just like any other community, unfortunately there are in the Muslim community some Muslims who do stereotype Judaism for the bad deeds of some Jews. And second, just like any other community, unfortunately there are some in the Jewish community that happens to do bad deeds in the name of Judaism. But at the end, what we get is that while we all have few bad-apples in our midst, neither our entire communities, nor our entire faiths, should be blamed for. Its simply too irrational to “dislike” all things entire community, or all things entire faith, for the their few bad-apples here and there, which at the end, proves only the person doing the ‘dislike’ of entire faiths/communities its just a member of those few bad-apples. After all, human beings are to make mistakes at times, it is a God-giving right, for which even He accept, for He allows chances to come-back from. Another human being ought to look down at the mistakes from his own backward, before stretching his neck sniffing those of his neighbors.

  • Khalid

    Islamophobia is just as moronic as anit-semitism.

    Anti-semitism relies on the “wealthy elitist” stereotype (even though most Jews live in Israel) because Jews are amongst the world’s smallest religiious minority.

    Islamophobia on the other thrives on demographic dellusions and “outbreeding” and “Eurabia” that have also been chewn up and spit out; seeing as how Muslims account for 1.7 billion

  • MC

    Great event, helps bring people together

  • Steve

    “Another Muslim student, whose experience of Judaism had previously consisted only of negative stereotypes”

    How is that possible?

  • mindy1

    Things like this make me feel good about humanity-now how to make it world wide…

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