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Norwegian Far Right says Breivik Correct to Fear Muslims

Confessed mass killer Anders Behring Breivik sits in the courtroom in Oslo, Norway, on Friday 1 June, 2012. (AP / Heiko Junge, Pool)

Confessed mass killer Anders Behring Breivik sits in the courtroom in Oslo, Norway, on Friday 1 June, 2012. (AP / Heiko Junge, Pool)

(Via IslamophobiaToday.com)

Norwegian far right says Breivik correct to fear Muslims

By Balazs Koranyi, Reuters

(Reuters) – Norwegian far-right leaders told the court trying Anders Behring Breivik on Tuesday the mass killer was right to fear his nation’s “planned annihilation” by Muslims, even if his method of combating it was wrong.

Breivik killed 77 people on July 22, first detonating a car bomb outside government headquarters and killing eight, then gunning down 69 people, mostly teenagers, at the ruling Labour Party’s summer camp on Utoeya Island.

He argued his victims deserved to die because they supported Muslim immigration, which he said is adulterating pure Norwegian blood.

“The constitution has been cancelled, we’re at war now,” Tore Tvedt, the founder of far-right group Vigrid told the court.

Tvedt, 69, with greying hair and moustache, addressed the court in a firm voice.

“When they get their will, the Nordic race will be exterminated,” he said of Muslim immigration.

Breivik’s defence team called Tvedt and other far-right supporters to the stand to support their argument that Breivik is sane since his ideology is shared by others, even if their numbers are few.

“Take a look at society in Pakistan, look at the 57 Islamic states. People there live in a regime of terror and slavery, that’s what we had under national socialism and in the Soviet Union, people were trapped in a terror state,” Arne Tumyr, the head of an anti-Islam group told court.

Tall, thin and with a full head of hair, Tumyr, 79, spoke softly and insisted on testifying top the court standing up.

“If nothing is done, Norway will be taken over my Muslims,” he said.

Members of Islamic communities make up about 2 percent of Norway’s five million people, though their numbers were growing faster than those of Christians, Statistics Norway said.

All witnesses argued against Breivik’s violence but said Norway’s passivity toward the issue would eventually lead to a Muslim takeover.

The court’s main task in the 10-week trial is to decide whether Breivik is sane and whether he should be sent to jail or a psychiatric institution.

One court-appointed team of psychiatrists concluded he is psychotic, but a second team came to the opposite conclusion. The five judges hearing the case will take a final decision on his sanity at the end of the trial.

If deemed sane, Breivik faces a 21-year jail sentence which could be indefinitely extended for as long as he is considered dangerous.

Breivik has said he should either be executed or acquitted, calling the prospect of a prison sentence “pathetic”. If he were to be declared insane, he has said, that would be “worse than death”.

The court had hoped to deliver a verdict before the first anniversary of Breivik’s attack, but said a ruling may not come before August 24.

(Editing by Jon Hemming)

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  • Bill Olson

    It’s no wonder and no brainer. Of course, they are going to side with him even if he killed many people based on his beliefs.

  • Sam Seed

    @Steve, you said:-

    “@Zakiyra Ali Sher, I certainly wouldn’t want to go on holiday to the Maldives, it might look nice but holidaying in a place where freedom of religion and freedom from religion is illegal would be ethically wrong. It is a great shame that the foreign office in the UK doesn’t do more to dissuade people from holidaying in a place with no regard for human rights”.

    No regard for human rights? What are you talking about?Do you know someone who ahd their human rights violated?

    But I thought you were an athiest. Besides, people go there for a good time, not for spiritual enlightenment.

  • Reynardine

    InPeace, if Al Jazeera is a hate site, then your own utterances are???

    I wouldn’t vacation in the Maldives. I live a mountainous 31′ above sea level, and that’s the front of my lot. The back is more like 24′. That leaves me just a little more margin for error than they have in the Maldives. I don’t have an ark, and I’m too old for strenuous swimming.

  • Nick McConnell

    And what is it that confuses you?

  • truth

    @ nick I meant really. You aren’t making any sense to me.* Still laughing*

  • Nick McConnell

    truth,

    First, I wonder if you know what ‘truth’ means. I expect that you’d learn more than you now know by clicking on my name and going to my book’s Chapter T1 entitled “‘Truth’ and Knowledge”.

    Second, what does your word ‘reall’ mean?

    Third, do you use the sign-off Lol to mean “Left Out Loser”?

  • truth

    @ nick reall? Lol

  • Nick McConnell

    Khalid, in response to your request, “can someone please enlighten me” (about the “slavery” and “terror” in Islamic states), I expect that Tvedt was referring to the “terror” and “enslavement” of people by clerics who promote wild speculations about the existences of gods and about associated terrors after death (unless the people do as the clerics dictate). The result was (and in Islamic states, still is) enslavement of the people, enabling the clerics to live as parasites on the producers of the world.

    Such clerical con games were established in ancient Egypt about 4,000 years ago, promoted by Zarathustra about 3,000 years ago, some of Zarathustra’s nonsense was incorporated into Judaism by Ezra and other clerics about 2500 years ago, then the Christian clerics who wrote the New Testament promoted similar nonsense about 2,000 years ago, and then, Muslim clerics promoted it with gusto more than 1,000 years ago. In the West, since the Enlightenment began about 500 years ago (when Epicurus’ ideas finally resurfaced and people began to realize that there are no gods – and never were any gods – and that the lame-brain and con-artist clerics had simply devised their terrorizing schemes to enslave the people), we began to break free. Robert Ingersoll beautifully described the resulting freedom:

    “When I became convinced that the Universe is natural – that all the ghosts and gods are myths – there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood, the sense, the feeling, the joy of freedom. The walls of my prison crumbled and fell, the dungeon was flooded with light, and all the bolts, and bars, and manacles became dust. I was no longer a servant, a serf, or a slave. There was for me no master in all the wide world – not even in infinite space.

    “I was free: free to think, to express my thoughts – free to live to my own ideal – free to live for myself and those I loved – free to use all my faculties, all my senses – free to spread imagination’s wings – free to investigate, to guess and dream and hope – free to judge and determine for myself – free to reject all ignorant and cruel creeds, all the ‘inspired’ books that savages have produced, and all the barbarous legends of the past – free from popes and priests – free from all the ‘called’ and ‘set apart’ – free from sanctified mistakes and holy lies – free from the fear of eternal pain – free from the winged monsters of night – free from devils, ghosts, and gods.

    “For the first time I was free. There were no prohibited places in all the realms of my thought – no air, no space, where fancy could not spread her painted wings – no chains for my limbs – no lashes for my back – no fires for my flesh – no master’s frown or threat – no following another’s steps – no need to bow, or cringe, or crawl, or utter lying words.

    “I was free. I stood erect and fearlessly, joyously, faced all worlds. And then my heart was filled with gratitude, with thankfulness, and went out in love to all the heroes, the thinkers who gave their lives for the liberty of hand and brain, for the freedom of labor and thought – to those who fell on the fierce fields of war – to those who died in dungeons bound with chains – to those who proudly mounted scaffold’s stairs – to those whose bones were crushed, whose flesh was scarred and torn – to those by fire consumed – to all the wise, the good, the brave of every land, whose thoughts and deeds have given freedom to the sons of men. And I vowed to grasp the torch that they had held, and hold it high, that light might conquer darkness still.”

  • Steve

    @Ahmed, I would prefer everybody accused of anything to have an open trial.

    In some cases (Ahmad and Qatada amongst them) they are held in prison awaiting extradition – endless appeals mean they stay in prison a long time although qatada seems to be in and out on a regular basis. I haven’t particularly followed the cases and I am uneasy about the extradition treaty the UK has with the US.

  • Ahmed

    @Steve,

    Well, I wasn’t referring to the Abu Qatada case. I was referring to Babar Ahmad. Still, at least it is good to see you’re willing to see Abu Qatada given an open trial.

  • Steve

    @Ahmed, that would rule holidaying pretty much everywhere. Are you referring to the Qatada case? He has had more judgements than almost anybody else, had millions in tax payers money spent on him in legal fees and housing, feeding etc. him and his family and has involved lawyers and judges in various countries. Personally I would like to see him put on open trial and if found guilty put on the next plane to Jordan.

  • Ahmed

    @Steve,

    Do you think people should not holiday in the UK because certain people do not have the right to an open and fair trial?

  • Steve

    @Zakiyra Ali Sher, I certainly wouldn’t want to go on holiday to the Maldives, it might look nice but holidaying in a place where freedom of religion and freedom from religion is illegal would be ethically wrong. It is a great shame that the foreign office in the UK doesn’t do more to dissuade people from holidaying in a place with no regard for human rights

  • InPeace

    Twenty or thirty years from now, we will likely be laughing about how racist people of this era were

    Yeah, you.

  • InPeace

    I think its fairly obvious that Breivik was influenced by them

    Unlike Breivik, Muhammad Merah was influenced by the internet – particularly al-Jazeera and other hate sites.

  • Zakariya Ali Sher

    I agree with you Khalid. I wouldn’t want to live in a dumphole like Saudi Arabia, and places like Somalia and Afghanistan aren’t too safe right now (though that has as much to do with foreign intervention as anything else), but the majority of Muslim states are doing fairly well. Malaysia, Turkey, the Maldives. Seems Europeans want to go vacation in these spots. Heck, the UAE is becoming the new place for trendy jetsetters.

    As far as jihadwatch, I think its fairly obvious that Breivik was influenced by them, just as Benjamin Nathaniel Smith was influenced by Matt Hale and the ‘church of the world creator.’ Time will show that Geller, Spencer and the rest of the cowards have been inspiring violence against Muslims. Mark my word. Its unlikely they will ever be prosecuted, mind you, but they will fade into obscurity. Twenty or thirty years from now, we will likely be laughing about how racist people of this era were, and their former supporters will be embarrassed and pretend they never bought their books or attended their rallies.

  • Khalid

    What “terror” states are these? can someone please enlighten me ?

    What “slavery”? maybe Mauritania or Sudan ?

    But most of the 57 countries are not terrorist-headed or slaveocratic.

    Breivik’s lunacy was probably formed out of Jihadwatch.com but they all deserve to be thrown into the looney bin.

  • Zakariya Ali Sher

    So this Tvedt guy has a mustache, huh? I’m betting dollars to doughnuts that its one of those little Hitler type mustaches. Anyway, I suppose Breivik has ample reason to fear me. If I saw him walking down the street, I’d kick his ass without hesitation. Considering he will likely be released within a couple decades, it seems a very real possibility.

  • @Umayr,

    He’s sane, but his thinking is totally messed up!

  • Umayr

    He sane and also insane.

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  • mindy1

    What is going on in the world?!

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