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“Atheists Ignore Islamophobia at their Peril” by Chris Stedman

Posted on 30 August 2012 by Emperor

A very important article on why it is perilous for Atheists to both engage in and ignore Islamophobia. The response to the article is filled with Islamophobia, so if you have time please do check it out and respond to some of the haters.:

Atheists Ignore Islamophobia at their Peril

by Chris Stedman (Religion Dispatches)

When I first heard that a white supremacist opened fire on a Sikh gurdwara in Oak Creek, Wisconsin a few weeks ago, I froze. My stomach lurched and my thoughts turned to the friends I’d made in the Sikh community through my work as an atheist and interfaith activist.

In the wake of the horror I reached out to friends directly and logged on to Twitter to express my shock, outrage, disgust, and sadness—as a Millennial, I suppose you could say this is one way I engage in the collective processing of such traumas. Within minutes of my first tweet, I began to get responses from other atheists saying that interfaith work is bad, that I should be more concerned about atheists than Sikhs, and that “religion poisons everything.” The next day, I was called “a traitor” when I tweeted about efforts to raise funds to rebuild a mosque in Joplin, Missouri that was burned to the ground. When I tweeted about reaching out to the Sikh community and expressing solidarity, I was accused of trying to make atheism a religion.

And I wasn’t alone in facing such criticism. When skeptic blogger Kylie Sturgess wrote a post about the Joplin mosque she was called “a terrorist” by a commenter.

Of course, it’s hardly reasonable to be concerned solely on the basis of comments made by Internet “trolls.” Unfortunately, there are worrying indicators that public figures in the atheist movement are perpetuating and enabling a hostile stance toward Muslims—in many cases, above and beyond the criticisms they direct at other religious communities. One of the most widely-known atheists in the world, Bill Maher, for example, is alarmed by the number of babies being named Mohammed in the U.K., and said the following of Muslims and Islam: “What it comes down to is that there is one religion in the world that kills you when you disagree with them. They say, ‘Look, we’re a religion of peace and if you disagree we’ll cut your fucking head off.”

In December of last year, the president of American Atheists posted a status update to his public Facebook profile that read: “Never give up a right without a fight. I will defame Islam if I want to. It doesn’t mean I hate Muslims. It means Islam is a shitty religion that worships a pedophile as morally perfect.” When I expressed my concern about those comments, atheist blogger JT Eberhard wrote the following:

Islam is a shitty religion (more shitty than most, and try me if you don’t think we can defend that statement) and Muhammad was a pedophile, which has resulted in several Muslims continuing the practice. If Chris doesn’t like the word “shitty”, I wonder what adjective he would suggest. Horrible? Morally repugnant? Should we greet the anti-science, morally fucked up religion of Islam with an, “Oh shucks, that is pretty anti-humanity and doesn’t make much sense now does it?” How softly would be enough to get Stedman to relinquish his iron-clad grip on his pearls?  Frankly, to call Islam shitty is like calling the surface of the sun warm.

Later in the post he claimed to just be “factually criticizing” Islam and Muslims, but even if that were his aim, several of the claims he put forth about Islam and Muslims were not only false, but were framed in a way that is likely to inflame anti-Muslim sentiment. Another example is Ernest Perce V, the Pennsylvania State Director for American Atheists, notorious for a lawsuit resulting from his depiction of “zombie Muhammad” (the judge, who called Perce “a doofus” and ruled against him, was forced to relocate shortly after the ruling due to safety concerns over threats made against him). Perce has also made several statements that have inflamed anti-Muslim attitudes in Pennsylvania—his latest being that he plans to publicly flog a Koran on the Pennsylvania state capitol steps next month in protest of a state resolution to name 2012 the “Year of Religious Diversity.”

There is No Such Thing as Islamophobia

While these issues have been the subject of debate in segments of the atheist movement for some time, events this month have got me thinking about a new aspect of this issue: the problem of silence. As the Sikh community reeled from the tragedy in Oak Creek and prominent figures from a plethora of religious communities reached out to express their solidarity and sympathy, I was surprised that I didn’t see more notable atheists speak up. Browsing some of the most trafficked atheist blogs I saw that they posted little or nothing about the shooting—until Pat Robertson blamed atheists for the tragedy, an accusation that a sizable majority of atheist websites then addressed.

RationalWiki, an atheist wiki featuring a newsfeed and articles like “Atheism FAQ for the Newly Deconverted,” contained no mention of the Sikh shooting, but it did list an instance where a Florida door-to-door salesman was shot, and noted the recent mass shooting in Aurora, Colorado. PZ Myers, who is among the most visible atheist bloggers in the world, did write about the shooting twice, though one of his posts simply referenced the shooting as a way to condemn America’s “gun culture,” while the other focused on Pat Robertson’s comments. (Most of the more than 35 other dedicated bloggers on Freethought Blogs—a massive atheist blog network he co-founded—didn’t address it at all.)

But while this silence is deeply troubling, I don’t want to suggest that, like some of those mentioned earlier, the atheist community at large necessarily has an Islamophobia problem—or that legitimate criticisms of Islam (or any other religions) constitutes Islamophobia. The problem, I think, lies in a lack of sensitivity to or awareness of the rampant Islamophobia sweeping our society. A key offender in this respect is bestselling atheist author Sam Harris.

The day after the shooting in Wisconsin, Harris published a lengthy blog post decrying Internet trolls; bizarrely, though, he included yet another defense of his position that Muslims should face extra scrutiny at airports. He and I engaged in a back-and-forth about this issue earlier this year after he wrote a post where he first argued that “we should profile Muslims, or anyone who looks like he or she could conceivably be Muslim, and we should be honest about it.” In my response, I challenged his claims that talk of Islamophobia is “deluded” and that “there is no such thing as Islamophobia.” He responded, but largely neglected my concerns about Islamophobia.

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  • Ilisha

    @yonseiite

    Nice post. Thank you for adding that perspective.

  • yonseiite

    As an atheist, I am also very alarmed by the specifically Islamophobic stance that many atheists are taking these days. We need people like Stedman in the atheist corner to offer Atheist different viewpoints. It does not bode well to blame the world’s problems on Islam and Muslims. We should remember that there have been wars launched by the Western powers in Iraq and Afghanistan for almost 10 years now, and war very possibly spreading elsewhere soon. When we see shocking scene of brutality in the conflict zones, instead of saying – how awful “Islam” is, why don’t we say how awful “war” is and then do something about the wars.

    Atheist often pride themselves on being rational, logical and examining evidence to come to conclusions, yet when it comes to Islam they completely lose it. Take Richard Dawkins, as a scientist, he should know that if A happens (say suicide bombers) when B exists (bomber just happens to be Muslim), A did not necessarily cause B. He has to show the causal relationship, not just a coincidence, and he never does. This is a very basic principle in science that even a high school student would know. He is either being dishonest, or political, or just a very, very bad scientist. Yet no one ever calls him on it. Dawkins is just one example, and there are others.

    There are some admitted atheists reading this blog, and we should be joining Stedman in his call for cooler heads to prevail, and resist political atheism (or anything) in spreading more hysteria about Muslims. If you are an atheist, support Stedman in whatever way you can. If you can write, create an atheist blog to deal with the issues of Islamophobia. Let other atheist know that atheists with other view points are out there.

    Thanks for posting this article. It is has been very interesting.

  • Bird

    Miguel
    It’s funny how those young ‘educated’ teenagers are associating themselves with those Young-Earthers from America

  • Miguel

    Very good article. In my experience (with a couple of exceptions), the majority of the most rampant Muslim haters have been atheists. But I’m from the UK, might be different in the US

  • Ilisha

    “What it comes down to is that there is one religion in the world that kills you when you disagree with them. They say, ‘Look, we’re a religion of peace and if you disagree we’ll cut your f**king head off.”

    I wonder if many atheists know about this chapter in the Quran:

    Surat Al-Kāfirūn (The Disbelievers)

    109:1 Say, “O disbelievers,
    109:2 I do not worship what you worship.
    109:3 Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.
    109:4 Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.
    109:5 Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.
    109:6 For you is your religion, and for me is my religion.”

    http://quran.com/109

    Where’s the call to hate and cut the “f**cking heads off” of people who disagree? It seems more like a solid basis for “agree to disagree” co-existence to me.

  • Sarah Brown

    Striking post – I’m an atheist – the first thing that springs to mind is the (?)former association between Pat Condell and the National Secular Society. I would define myself as a secularist – but I’ve been accused of ‘accommodationism’ …

  • Adam

    Why……am I wasting my time debating these folks?

    Will they even read this?

    http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-true-stories-that-will-restore-your-faith-in-humanity/

  • DrM

    There are plenty of Atheist redneck(non-geographic) losers, check out youtube.

  • Adam

    Anyone read the comments? Wow Chris Stedman’s article went waaaay over many heads.

  • http://www.yellow-stars.com eslaporte

    One of the claims of Pim Fortuyn was that “Islam threatened Dutch values,” that includes humanism and atheism. Fortuyn pushed the notion that to “protect Dutch values” – REAL Dutch values and traditions needed to be undermined and even abolished. Religious tolerance became a threat to peace.

    Of course, “Islam” to Fortuyn is found in example where someone or someones of Muslim background engage in violent conduct – and claim to be doing it for “Islam.” From here, we get the mentality that all forms of Islam are “a violent ideology” and that all Muslims should be blamed for the actions of individuals, forget their possible other motivations. This is what happened after Theo van Gogh was murdered on an Amsterdam street.

    What can be called a real tragedy is that many atheists fell for the mentality that “all Muslims” are to blame for the actions of a few and that “Islam” cannot embrace a democratic society where individuals are free to chose their own religious faith.

    The reality is that religious bigotry against Muslims can and will come back to bite atheists too.

    Those that champion religious bigotry against Muslims have Christian fundamentalists, Christo-Fundies, as friends and colleagues (as we know), like Geert Wilders, who has gone to great efforts to hide his Christo-Fundies supporters on the Western side of the Atlantic. We know that Christo-Fundies that support Wilders don’t have a high view of atheists, humanists, Gays and feminists.

    This is why Wilders and PVV party are dangerous to very “Dutch values” that they claim to protect. The Christo-Fundies, I suspect, would like to come in and start preaching and take away rights for humanists, Gays, feminists – and atheists – after they take them away from Muslims.

    Atheists have no idea that they are working against their best interests…

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/GargamelGold?feature=mhee CriticalDragon1177

    @Emperor

    I’m glad we have people like Chris Stedman.

  • mindy1

    Well put sir, we should not engage in the hostile rhetoric that we accuse others of doing, otherwise we are hypocrits.

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