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The Nuclear Card

Libyan Citizens Drive the Extremists Out

Posted on 24 September 2012 by Emperor

(h/t: Critical Dragon)

Libyan citizens drive the extremists out

by Sheila Musaji (The American Muslim)

An important event happened in Benghazi Libya on Friday.  Ten days after the terrorist attack on the American Embassy that left Ambassador Stevens and three other Embassy staffers dead and the Embassy destroyed, the Libyan people themselves turned on the extremist minority that had carried out that attack.

This really should be HEADLINE news as it shows that the hope engendered by the Arab Spring has given ordinary citizens in countries formerly under dictatorial rule, real belief that they have the power to change the situation.

TAM posted last week about previous demonstrations in Libya against the Embassy attack.  Libyans protesting in Benghazi: Images You Won’t See in the Media.  If you type “Libya” into the TAM search engine, many articles will come up about previous developments in Libya.  Also, in our collection of statements and condemnations Muslim, Arab, & Interfaith Organizations Condemn Attacks on U.S. Embassies you will find many statements by Libyans themselves.

Here are key points about this incident from media around the world.  There is a lot happening, and it requires reading a lot of different sources to put together even the outline of what is going on.

Al Arabiya reports that an estimated 30,000 Libyans came out for a “Save Benghazi” protest against the influence of militias, and those who attacked the American Embassy.  Hundreds of the protesters attacked the main Salafi militia base and burned it, forcing the Salafis out.  At the same time as the large protest, a jihadist group Ansar al-Sharia could only attract a few hundred people.

Al Jazeera reported Al Jazeera’s Hoda Abdel-Hamid, reporting from Benghazi, said: “We went there to see their slogans and basically what they’re saying is that they refused insults to the Prophet but they also refuse terrorism in their city.”  “They have also called for the disbanding of the militias, chanting: ‘What are you waiting for?’. They’re asking the government how long it will take before they do that.”  They gathered to pressure the national congress to pass legislation criminalising militias and codifying the law on bearing arms, organisers said.  They were also demanding the withdrawal of all armed groups from state buildings and institutions and full support for measures to revitalise the police and army.

The Globe and Mail reports that at least 11 people died and at least 70 were injured in the assault on the militia base.  Demonstrators paid tribute to Ambassador Stevens and carried banners calling for justice to be done.  For many Libyans, the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi was the last straw in one of the biggest problems Libya has faced since last year’s ouster and death of longtime dictator Moammar Gadhafi: the multiple mini-armies armed with machine-guns and rocket-propelled grenades that are stronger than government security forces. …  While the late Friday protests were planned in advance though social networking sites and flyers, the storming of the heavily armed militia headquarters took many by surprise. After breaking off from a huge anti-militia march — the biggest in the eastern city since the fall of Col. Gadhafi’s regime last October — protesters overtook a building used by Islamist militia Ansar al-Sharia, set fire to a vehicle and offices after freeing three detainees held in an underground cell. The group is linked to the killing of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens.

Big Story reported that signs mourned the killing of Stevens, reading, “The ambassador was Libya’s friend” and “Libya lost a friend.” Military helicopters and fighter jets flew overhead, and police mingled in the crowd, buoyed by the support of the protesters.  Residents of another main eastern city, Darna, have also begun to stand up against Ansar al-Shariah and other militias.  The anti-militia fervor in Darna is notable because the city, in the mountains along the Mediterranean coast north of Benghazi, has long had a reputation as a stronghold for Islamic extremists. During the Gadhafi era, it was the hotbed of a deadly Islamist insurgency against his regime. A significant number of the Libyan jihadists who travelled to Afghanistan and Iraq during recent wars came from Darna. During the revolt against him last year, Gadhafi’s regime warned that Darna would declare itself an Islamic Emirate and ally itself with al-Qaida.  But now, the residents are lashing out against Ansar al-Shariah, the main Islamic extremist group in the city.  Leaders of tribes, which are the strongest social force in eastern Libya, have come forward to demand that the militias disband. Tribal leaders in Benghazi and Darna announced this week that members of their tribes who are militiamen will no longer have their protection in the face of anti-militia protests. That means the tribe will not avenge them if they are killed.

The Telegraph reported  The uprising has emboldened the Libyan government to issue a 48-hour deadline for militias not directly under its command to leave bases around Tripoli.  Brig-Gen Hamed Belkhair, commander of the official Benghazi garrison told the Daily Telegraph, that Ansar al-Sharia, the militant group whose members were implicated in storming the US consulate when ambassador Chris Stevens was killed had been disbanded.  “Its individual members may remain but it is finished as a force, God willing,” he said.

Yahoo News reported that the crackdown on militias has spread to Tripoli.

Those are the bare bones of the story to date.  Here are two of the best analyses so far:

Prof. Juan Cole provides an analysis

The attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11 was seen by many observers as a sign of Libyan radicalism or instability rather than the work of a small, violent and unrepresentative group.

It is a little hard to understand this point of view, since Libyans had just voted in what observers felt were free and fair, transparent elections, and they had elected moderate, mainstream politicians. Even the Muslim Brotherhood lost in the elections. When I was in Benghazi in late May, I found people enormously proud of their municipal and then-planned national elections, and relieved finally to have escaped the nightmare of Qaddafi rule. The US ambassador killed in the consulate attack, Chris Stevens, was wildly popular among Libyans, and I, as an American, was warmly greeted wherever I went.

On Friday during the day, the people of Benghazi demonstrated in their tens of thousands for peace and against al-Qaeda-style radicalism. Many placards called Chris Stevens “a friend,” though sources on the ground cautioned that the rally was not primarily about foreign affairs. The crowds were angered by continued poor security, and by the affront to the honor of their city, the leading municipality in the revolution against Muammar Qaddafi (Gaddafi) in 2011, committed by radical Muslim groups when they attacked the US consulate. The demonstrations were an affirmation of Free Libya and a signal that the people did not overthrow the mercurial Qaddafi just to be dominated by pro-al-Qaeda thugs.

Then on Friday night, their frustration with the militiamen of the “Ansar al-Shariah” and other lawless groups boiled over, and they attacked three of their headquarters and drove them out of the city. One of the groups they attacked, the Rafullah Sahati Brigade, has Muslim fundamentalist tendencies and is rumored to be connected somehow to hard line fundamentalist elements in the Libyan Ministry of the interior, according to al-Hayat the attackers had some armed men among them. The battle lasted two hours, and in the end the militia decided to withdraw from the city. …

Max Boot on Commentary also provides an analysis

…  Fed up that Libya’s nascent, moderate government is unable to disarm militias, the people have taken the task into their own hands, forcibly disarming several militia groups and storming the headquarters of the extremist Ansar al Sharia group. Some 30,000 people marched through Benghazi, bearing signs that included “We want justice for Chris” and “The ambassador was Libya’s friend.” Protesters even chanted at Ansar al Sharia members: “You terrorists, you cowards. Go back to Afghanistan.”

This is, to put it mildly, heartening, and it shows that the people of Libya are hardly the anti-American radicals that many imagine them to be based on the actions of a few hotheads. One obvious takeaway is that the Middle East is not a uniform mass of sharia-spouting, America-hating crazies–which is, alas, the crude stereotype which remains popular in too many corners of the West. There are, in fact, complex forces at play and, while the radicals may grab the headlines, there is a “silent majority”–in the case of Libya, silent no more–that is more interested in peaceful social and economic development than it is in waging jihad against the West.

A second lesson from the Libya protests is that this is the payoff from an intervention to topple a hated dictator–America has plainly won the hearts of many in Libya, just as it did previously in Bosnia, Kosovo, and the Kurdish region of Iraq. That does not, of course, mean that all Libyans love us–the extremists who killed our ambassador plainly did not–but it does mean that there is an undercurrent of sympathy for America that is not present in countries where we are associated with unpopular dictatorial regimes. We now have an opportunity to win popular favor in Syria or else suffer the opprobrium of allowing a terrible bloodletting to occur while we do nothing–which many Syrians will no doubt interpret as tacit American support for the hated Assad regime.

A third and final lesson is the need for follow-through–it is not enough to topple a dictator; it is just as important to establish order in his wake–something the Bush administration failed to do in Iraq and Afghanistan and that the Obama administration failed to do in Libya. The counsels of those of us who favored the dispatch of an international peacekeeping force to Libya after the successful NATO intervention were ignored. The result is the continuing chaos (although admittedly it is by no means a sure thing that an international force could have imposed order; it might even have sparked greater conflict). It is not, however, too late: Libya now has a moderate, pro-American government that is struggling to control its territory. While some isolationists in Congress argue that, in the wake of Stevens’s death, we should cut off aid to Libya, our proper course is just the opposite: We must increase aid, including the dispatch of military equipment and advisers, to create a national army and police force robust enough to keep order.

SEE ALSO:

Furious Libyans attack militia linked to U.S. ambassador’s deathhttp://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2-killed-libya-clashes-rage-protesters-extremist-militias-linked-ambassador-death-article-1.1165374#ixzz27EZWQRtK

People power drives Islamist militias out of Libyan townshttp://www.theweek.co.uk/africa/49167/people-power-drives-islamist-militias-out-libyan-towns

Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/africa/49167/people-power-drives-islamist-militias-out-libyan-towns#ixzz27JlnrWSR

Protestors apologize to US; overtake Islamist group’s HQ in Benghazihttp://wtvr.com/2012/09/22/protestors-apologize-to-us-overtake-islamist-groups-hq-in-benghazi/

Tens Of Thousands Of Libyans Stage Anti-Militia Protest In Benghazi, Zack Beauchamp  http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/09/21/890161/libyans-protest-militias-benghazi/

Wingnut Bloggers Claimed Photos Showed ‘Muslims Dragging Stevens’ – Actually Showed Libyan Rescuers, Charles Johnson http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/wingnut-bloggers-claimed-photos-showed-muslims-dragging-stevens-actually-sh

  • RDS

    Brought to you by a HuffPo Anti Loon, in response to this story:

    “Have you noticed that the cons here are actually shamelessly ROOTING FOR the terrorists? Good, brave Libyans who want to embrace the hope of the Arab Spring and support their new government have taken up arms to drive out the terrorists and religious extremists who attacked their greatest ally, us. They have shown their support to us with signs..written in English for us to read..telling us that “this is not Libya…this is not who we are” and now they’ve taken up arms and spilled their own blood to prove it. And what to the cons do? Dismiss it. Poo poo it. And cravenly, cravenly gloat that the terrorists will prevail. That evil will win. Because they know they need that to score a couple of percentage points in the polls over here. Notice that they say they “want Obama to fail.” Not that they THINK Obama will fail. Not that they would advice Obama to change course, but that they want him to fail. Meaning that if it’s possible he might succeed, they want to prevent that. Well? If it’s possible he might succeed then there’s no reason to try to prevent him from doing so, right? Because success is success.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/21/libya-militia-protests-benghazi_n_1905288.html

    WARNING: Comment section contains hate and stupid. Some are not, but too many to count are.

    Some people take the maxim “Without a villain, there can be no hero” too close to their hearts it seems.

  • leia

    This is a really awesome development in Libya! Congratulations my libyan brothers and sisters for doing something amazing. I don’t think many ppl around the world will fully understand or appreciate exactly what happened here. Some negative incidents like 11 ppl dying and so many wounded is sad, but the spirit of the protest shows thhere are great things to come for libya.Some of the recent rising of extremism, like the destroying of graves of saints, and the tragic embassy killings were really worrying. the recent protests show that most of the free hated what happened, and were ready to take a powerful stand against injustice, something that few ppl around the world, west and east are ready to do. on another note. About politically being pro-american. i don’t think that what that term indicates is realy accurate. the libyan ppl do not need to be pro-american, they just need to be just and ready to fight for the greatest of goods. America has nothing to fear if they follow these highest of ideals. The libyan ppl have shown they have a sense of justice, and judgement, and here it is the US that is the receiver of their mercy, however unfitting that sounds. i find the ‘pro-american’ term too politicised. as if there is good-for America- and evil if you are against her.black and white. As for aid/ Now here is the really tricky and scary part of This Whole Business. Although America gives aid with the best of intentions, and i’m sure very admirable ideals, it is essential for Americans to realise that free money is always dangerous. without meaning to insult, as i’m sure this was not intended by Americans at all,this is a scary fact: American aid has helped to destroy, control, enslave and starve whole nations. i repeat, this is not because Americans are any of these things, or intend to do any of these. It is what happens when the weak are forced by money to not do what their ppl want but what a foreign goverment, which has very little understanding, or strategic interest in the ppl of that nation, and is guided by about what their electorate thinks of them, and not of the ppl of a third world country, in their dealings with tht third world country. American aid was what kept in power many authoritarian governments in the middle-east. the blood and pain of all those ppl was created by corrupt and horrible governments, who in some cases only cared about the continous supply of’aid’ that ultimately was used for their own personal needs. This aid was continously given, because it was thought that the alternative- a free people chosing their own government, and standing up for justice( a justice that is perhaps feared by the rich and powerful?) will be worse for the strategic interests of a certain rich & powerful country. Americans thank you for your aid, it was kindly mesant, i’m sure. Libyans pls kindly decline this help. free money was never anything good. instead,what they need is the dream that they have and will strive for. and their honor, shown in their protests for justice. Libyans need to know that however poor thay are they can stand up on their own, with dignity,and are worthy of respect as an equal to all the world powers.( not a dumping ground for ‘charity’) the libyan ppl have shown they are better than many powers around the world, and can acheive greatness as a nation if they just hold on to that dream. i apologise if i’ve hurt or insulted anyone unfairly in my comments, or if they were excessively harsh.

  • http://www.fivechinesecrackers.com/ Tinka Boutit

    As I understand it (according to mainstream Islam), it was completely wrong to kill a non-combatant i.e. the late ambassador.

    However, I wonder, regarding all those who condemned those protestors who used non-lethal force, will condemn the use of killing in the name of that very ambassador?

    Is that pacifism only an example of expedient opportunism?

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  • http://www.youtube.com/user/GargamelGold CriticalDragon1177

    @corey

    Actually what Spencer wrote really was for all intense and purposes a “so what article”

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/GargamelGold CriticalDragon1177

    @corey

    Than maybe you should take a shower, get you’re mind off of it.

  • corey

    @criticaldragon1177
    wow you know I was actually thinking it would be more of a “so what” article on that in fact I went looking on sites such as atlas drugs, bare naked islam, and that jackass “sheikyermami” to see if they had anything to say about this, but no just the same hate mongering bullcrap one would expect from websites of the so called “counter jihad movement. (and yes I actually do feel dirty for doing so after all going on those websites is the equivalent taking a bath in sewer water.)

  • Reynardine

    No, I really did see it featured on CNN and several other outlets as well.

  • Julie

    I can’t believe this didn’t make the news here. What a great development to see the Libyans taking back their own country from the violent thugs in their midst.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/GargamelGold CriticalDragon1177

    @corey

    You wrote,
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    I wonder if any of our favorites from the moron brigade will say anything on this hey geller, spencer are you ever gonna write an article about this like at all *crickets* well guess not but then again shouldn’t be surprising.
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    Believe it or not, I think Spencer has, but all he said was something along the lines of “If Islam was a religion of peace we should expect to see protests like all the time, but we don’t, therefor Islam is not a religion of peace.” I was searching Jihad Watch and other such sites for bigoted commentaries for Loon Watch to debunk, when I came across what he had to say about what’s happening in Libya. I think he maybe trying to downplay this because it hurts his agenda, and maybe even he realizes how stupid simply shouting “Taqiya” will look given the large number of protestors. Yet so many people are reporting on this, that he probably feels compelled to comment on it, since he realizes someone is bound to bring it up.

  • mindy1

    Debbie Schlussel is already insulting the late Ambassador-she says calls him a stupid dhimmi who sacrificed security to appease the Libyan Muslims :’( It’s sad, he wanted a better world and all she can do is make fun of those who try their best :(

  • mindy1

    OMG awesome :D thanks for caring, good citizens of Libya :D

  • corey

    I wonder if any of our favorites from the moron brigade will say anything on this hey geller, spencer are you ever gonna write an article about this like at all *crickets* well guess not but then again shouldn’t be surprising.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/GargamelGold CriticalDragon1177

    @Emperor

    Wow! that was fast! I know you guys would love this story. Its nice to see the Libyans standing up for their freedom like this. I remember watching, I think it was CNN and they also mentioned this. So we have another major news outlet covering the story. Maybe its not being treated as headline news by most news organizations yet, but hopefully a lot of people will still hear about this.

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