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Pamela Geller Stokes anti-Muslim Hatred

I agree with this point by Nick Lowles and have observed it myself,

We are entering a very dangerous period where ‘Counter-Jihadists’ and Islamist extremists are feeding off each other’s extremism to justify their own activities. I’ll be writing more about this shortly.

Though in all fairness this has been going on for quite some time now, though it seems to be escalating.

(h/t: Jai)

Geller stokes anti-Muslim hatred

by Nick Lowles (HopeNotHate)

US ‘Counter-Jihad’ activist Pam Geller is stoking anti-Muslim hatred by producing a poster for the New York subway which declares Muslims as ‘savages’.

The advert, which will go up in ten subway stations next week to coincide with the opening of the UN General Assembly, reads:

“In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel. Defeat Jihad.”

The New York City Metropolitan Transit Authority (MTA) initially refused the posters but have been forced to by a court order.

Geller told Sky News: “I will not abridge my freedoms so as not to offend savages.

“I won’t take responsibility for other people being violent.

“I live in America and in America we have the first amendment.”

These posters are obviously designed to stoke up hatred against Muslims and coming so shortly after the Innocence of Muslims film, again produced by Counter-Jihadists, will create a reaction from Muslims and give ammunition to Islamist extremists.

We are entering a very dangerous period where ‘Counter-Jihadists’ and Islamist extremists are feeding off each other’s extremism to justify their own activities. I’ll be writing more about this shortly.

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  • Ilisha

    @Dave

    “In fact, the Zionists are setting us up for another war to benefit Israel and their pockets.”

    The US has been militaristic since its founding, even before Israel existed:

    “We’re at War!” — And We Have Been Since 1776: 214 Years of American War-Making
    http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/12/we-re-at-war-and-we-have-been-since-1776/

    Pretty amazing, those wily “Zionists,” influencing America on behalf of Israel, even BEFORE it was founded!

    Bizarre conspiracy theories about “the Joos” destroying Western civilization by opening up the floodgates to the Muslim hordes are both Antisemitic and Islamophobic, not to mention simply absurd.

    We’ve addressed this in a previous, somewhat related article that might also be of interest to you. Note this is *sarcasm*, not an actual affirmation of bizarre conspiracy theories:

    Stop the Judeo-Mestizo Islamization of North America!

    …As it turns out, immigration seems to be influenced largely by economics and labor markets, and not some cabal of puppet masters from a certain religious or ethnic group. But why let facts stand in the way of a juicy, hate-filled conspiracy theory?…

    http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/05/stop-the-judeo-mestizo-islamization-of-north-america/

  • Dave

    What we are seeing is that Jewish money is now being used to promote hatred of Muslims. This is why they finance groups like the EDL in the UK and several anti-Islam films. While Jews do not allow non-Jewish immigration into Israel, or even allow non-Jews there to marry Jews, they promote third world immigration into all western countries:

    [Snipped: Links to hate sites are not allowed. Ilisha]

    If multiculturalism is going to ease tensions between races, why is it promoted everywhere except Israel.

    In fact, the Zionists are setting us up for another war to benefit Israel and their pockets.

  • http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=can-north-africa-light-europe-solar-power Muslim

    “What is wrong with these people? Stop selling oil to enemy states”… “And bankrupt themselves?”

    There are plenty of customers for the most vital product/s of industrial civilization e.g. China. Furthermore, energy is just one aspect, the other includes chemical industry precursors.

    Not only that, the Global Village IS symbiotically inter-dependent.

    The Muslim nations sit astride one of the most important strategic regions on the planet i.e. betwixt 3 continents. They have vast amounts of the most important natural resources for industrial civilization. Just one example is Europe’s need for energy in the form of solar energy from North Africa (DESERTEC).http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=can-north-africa-light-europe-solar-power

    China & India are scrambling to grab resources e.g. Africa. The North Atlantic treaty Organization is morphing into the North’s Anywhere Treaty Organization. AFRICOM is being peddled.

    PNAC is in full flow. The existentialist rhetoric of dead-ender Zionism is dragging in the Abrahamic cultures into one big catfight in a M.A.D. scenario. I do not think that a militantly secular world government backed by its own armies is the solution to a diverse world, just a panacea.

    “Freedom” > not that simplistic, both nations have differing RELATIVE (not ABSOLUTE) Freedoms.

  • Jai

    Garibaldi,

    Another excellent new article from Nick Lowles at Hope Not Hate:

    Link: http://hopenothate.org.uk/blog/article/2184/muslims-rise-up-against-islamist-extremes-but-counter-jihads-remain-silent

    Full article:

    Muslims rise up against Islamist extremes but ‘Counter-Jihads’ remain silent

    posted by: Nick Lowles | on: Saturday, 22 September 2012, 09:15

    While the anti-Muslim haters of the self-defined ‘Counter-Jihad’ movement whip up fear and hatred against all Muslims, over in Libya there is a real, grassroots ‘Counter-Jihad’ operation going on. Tens of thousands of people have protested against Ansar al-Sharia and other Islamist groups, who people believe were responsible for the assault on the US consulate and the deaths of four Americans, including the US Ambassador.

    Militia compounds have been taken over and the headquarters of Ansar al-Sharia has been set alight.

    While the assault on the US consulate might have been the spark, this popular uprising reflects a more general unhappiness with the activities of the Islamist militias since the overthrow of Col Muammar Gaddafi.

    So you would imagine that the self-defined ‘Counter-Jihadists’ would have been cheering on this popular anti-Islamist uprising. But no, they were too busy spreading their general anti-Muslim hatred.

    Pamela Geller’s Atlas Shrugs website focuses on her anger that CNN cut short an interview about her new poster campaign on the New York subway, in which she describes Muslims as “savages”.

    Robert Spencer’s Jihad Watch reports on US collusion with the Muslim Brotherhood, whilst the English Defence League website simply tells the “Muslim world” that they “should get used to being offended.” Over at Gates of Vienna, probably the most important international ‘Counter-Jihad’ blogsite, they carry a clip from SUN TV where “Michael Coren talks about the House of Civilization versus the House of Islam.”

    In fact, I’ve just spent the last 30 minutes going through as many of the so-called Counter-Jihadist websites that I can and I cannot find a single mention of the popular protest in Benghazi. But then again they wouldn’t report it as it does not find into their general mindset that all Muslims are the problem.

  • Steve

    “What is wrong with these people? Stop selling oil to enemy states”

    And bankrupt themselves?

    In what way are they enemy states? I know that the freedoms available in the US are anathema in saudi arabia and I find it very disturbing to see UK politicians pretending to respect the saudi state but the oil producers and the oil providers need each other. It’s a symbiotic relationship, while oil keeps flowing the west turns a blind eye to the human rights abuses endemic in the oil producing states. It won’t last though. Saudi internal oil consumption is predicted to outstrip saudi oil production in the next couple of decades.

  • Rights

    Those who use the First Amendment or any other part of the US Constitution to advance nefarious purpose neither understand nor respect that amendment, or, for that matter, the Constitution. Such people are mischief makers at heart. I think Pamela Geller is such a person. While she may not want to abridge her freedoms – and no one should want her to – I doubt that the freedom she envisions and the manner in which she exercises it are the same that the Amendment meant. Technicalities of jurisprudence and polemics aside, common sense says the free speech the First Amendment meant is not the kind that slaughters the very souls of millions of fellow citizens. Speech that inflicts extreme pain and terrorizes the minds of millions of people leaves the realm of speech meant by the First Amendment. It becomes hate-speech, pure and simple. Geller’s speech is of the soul-slaughtering sort. It is hate-speech. It is an insult to the very amendment she uses to shield it.

  • FYI

    The ‘Pro-Israel’ Network Behind the Innocence Video
    by Justin Raimondo, September 19, 2012
    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2012/09/18/the-pro-israel-network-behind-the-innocence-video/
    he central figure in all this is reported to be one Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a 56-year-old Egyptian immigrant: although Nakoula presented himself in an interview with the Associated Press as “Sam Bacile,” a 56-year-old “Israeli-American” real estate developer, he is a Coptic Christian, a member of a persecuted minority in Egypt — and a convicted felon. Media reports portray him as the central figure in the making of Innocence: he denies this, and describes his job as arranging “logistics” for the film. Nakoula’s role seems to have been that of a facilitator — gofer — rather than “creative director,” and in any case he hardly seems the type to have originated the idea for the movie. Having been released from jail — where he was serving a sentence for bank fraud — barely a month before filming started, Nakoula was hardly in a position to undertake such a project. Chances are he was recruited by someone else, the real originator and driving force behind Innocence— but who is that someone?

    Public records show a filming permit was taken out by “Media for Christ,” an outfit run by one Joseph Nasrallah Abdelmasih. His group sponsors Christian programming in Arabic, including “The Way,” a production that has featured such prominent Islamophobes as Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer. The Geller-Spencer collaboration goes back to the protests against the New York City “Ground Zero” mosque in which the duo achieved national notoriety: Nasrallah was one of the speakers at their rally. The idea for just such a movie as Innocence showed up on Geller’s blog in February, in a post entitled “A Movie About Muhammad: An Idea Whose Time Has Come.” Ali Sina, an ex-Muslim and board member of Geller and Spencer’s “Stop the Islamization of Nations,” exhorted Geller’s readers to support his movie project:

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  • Reynardine

    FYI, we are not an enemy state. Pamela Geller is a mean, loony ricadueña playing “Let’s You and Him Fight (I’ll Hold Your Coat)”

  • FYI

    Why aren’t Muslim countries boycotting American goods? That is their right.

    Why aren’t the oil countries doing what King Feisal of Saudi Arabia was going to do? Use the oil weapon.

    What is wrong with these people? Stop selling oil to enemy states. That is their right. Just as these countries have the right to have free speech to insult religions.

  • Jai

    Garibaldi,

    “I agree with this point by Nick Lowles and have observed it myself,

    [Quote:] We are entering a very dangerous period where ‘Counter-Jihadists’ and Islamist extremists are feeding off each other’s extremism to justify their own activities.”

    The always-excellent historian William Dalrymple eloquently made exactly the same point in his brilliant book The Last Mughal. Dalrymple also provided a slightly modified version of the relevant quote at the end of this Guardian article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/may/10/comment.india

    “In a curious but very concrete way, the fundamentalists of all three Abrahamic faiths have always needed each other to reinforce each other’s prejudices and hatreds. The venom of one provides the lifeblood of the others.”

  • Bob

    I am sorry, too, that she (and a disproportionate number of Islamophobes) are members of my tribe. Most are die-hard Zionists who reject multiculturalism and seem to also hate Blacks, Hispanics, and gays too.

    I at first thought it might be a “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” or “the enemy of my friend is my enemy” thing. But upon further reflection, the same xenophobia, racism and malice that motivates Islamophobia also underlies Zionism.

  • mjasghar

    big surprise geller getting air time on Sky news – which is owned by Rupert Murdoch ie UK equivalent of FOX news

  • mindy1

    I am ashamed she is a member of the jewish tribe :( Jews have been the victims of hate, so to see one act like Goebbels is very disturbing :(

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