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Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer Raise Funds for EDL Leader’s Legal Defence

By on October 31, 2012 in Feature, Loon Blogs

Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer are raising money for head EDL boss Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (aka Tommy Robinson) who was arrested for using a false passport to enter the USA and attend Geller’s anti-Muslim rally on 9/11.

Geller and Spencer are both raising funds for Yaxley-Lennon, and involvement in the conspiracy to illegally bring Yaxley-Lennon over may includeNew York State Senator David Storbin. (h/t: Jai)

Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer Raise Funds for EDL Leader’s Legal Defence

(Barth’s Notes)

Pamela Geller writes about the plight of English Defence League leader Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (aka “Tommy Robinson”), who was recently arrested:

Many of you have responded to my article “Darkness Descending in England” by asking how to help. Legal funds are badly needed. Tommy’s situation in prison is terrible, and they urgently need to raise funds to pay lawyers to address this situation and provide him with the best possible legal defense.

Donations to Tommy’s legal fund can be made online via the EDL website here. Please, do it. SION as well as AFDI are contributing, in addition to all of the other work we are doing, This is a priority. Robinson and Kevin Carroll are part of our international team, members of SION’s President’s council, key players in the worldwide struggle for freedom.

…Demand equal treatment for Tommy Robinson rather than sharia inspired victimisation!

Robert Spencer, as ever, is providing the chorus, with a piece entitled “Urgent: Help defend Tommy Robinson from a monstrously unjust leviathan state apparatus”.

Carroll and Robinson attended an anti-Islam conference organised by Geller in New York on 11 September; Carroll memorably waved around British tabloid newspapers bearing headlines about Christianity in the UK. Robinson’s presence was curious; as the anti-EDL site EDL News noted:

…in September 2010, Robinson travelled over to the United States to attend a 9/11 event with other far right extremists. Upon arrival he was detained at John F Kenedy airport for several hours, refused entry and was then deported. No doubt due to his links with the far right and his lenghty criminal record, which has increased significantly since then with a spell on remand in the UK, a conviction for assault and three days inside a Swiss prison for a rooftop protest that went wrong.

One explanation is someone in high places has pulled strings for Robinson to enter the country. Robinson claimed on Twitter last night that he was sat next to New York State Senator David Storobin.

Now, however, it has been reported that

He tried to use a passport in the name of “Andrew McMaster” to enter the United States on September 10 this year, Southwark Crown Court heard.

Of course, at this moment in time the claim is just an allegation, and we should not infer guilt ahead of legal action. However, it is difficult to see in the arrest evidence of “sharia inspired victimisation”. It has also been noted that Robinson sent a Tweet to Geller on 10 Oct, asking for her phone number and adding ”Think there will be some activity this week about my trip to the usa”.

Robinson has also mentioned another allegation:

Arrested on suspicion of assault on Sayful Islam yest in B.Park? U can’t make this up. He still not been arrested for assaulting me on tv?

I blogged on Islam’s assault on Robinson (a slap through a car window) here. It should be remembered that Robinson is reluctant to involve the police in such matters.

A second element in the story is the arrest of 53 EDL members on a motorway soon afterwards; according to the BBC:

The men were heading to a location in east London, but police have not revealed where they were due to gather.

All 53 were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to cause public nuisance, the Metropolitan Police said.

Geller wrote:

The arrest of over 53 people in the United Kingdom is the beginning of the end for once-great Britain. The leaders of the English Defence League (EDL), Tommy Robinson and Kevin Carroll, were among those arrested, as well as Paul Weston of the British Freedom Party (BF).

…According to Carroll, Robinson was incarcerated for leaving the United Kingdom and entering the United States fraudulently for our September 11, 2012 Stop Islamization of Nations free speech conference in New York City.

…This is a defining moment in British history, as significant as any major turning point. It is in many respects like the Night of the Long Knives, which marked the point of no return from Nazism for Germany.

Geller’s historical parallel means that she’s comparing the EDL to the Brownshirts, although presumably this is unintentional. Carroll was arrested separately, while Weston was later arrested for breach of the peace while “demanding” information about Robinson at Wormwood Scrubs prison in west London. This turned out to be the wrong location; Robinson was in fact at Wandsworth.

Up until the middle of last year, Geller and Spencer were wary of association with EDL; the alliance was finally cemented in June. Having invested so heavily in the organisation, they have no other option than to continue aggressively to assert a narrative of political persecution; but one wonders if privately they have reservations. The video below, uploaded by “MrlaughingattheEDL” and expanded upon by EDL News, suggests there is good reason for them to be cautious.

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    • Fred

      @Watcher.

      ‘Every one who opposes Islam is called a fascist’

      No, it’s just those like Spencer, Geller, the EDL and affiliates who are intolerant and hate-filled against people of a particular other faith.

  • Sir David ( Illuminati membership number 5:32)

    Jai said “Draw your own conclusions about Pamela Geller, considering her continuing actions. Geller has either been tricked by her closest American & British allies, or she is completely lacking in self-respect, or her self-proclaimed “Jewish” identity is fake”

    I vote for all of the above

Michigan City: Judge Bans Pamela Geller’s anti-Muslim Ads

By on October 30, 2012 in Anti-Loons, Loon at large

Sounds like a lot of legal minutia that could have gone either way. At the end of the day I don’t think it would be a big issue if Pamela Geller‘s ads about “Leaving Islam” were to go up. I find her racist Ayn Rand “Savages” ad more problematic and likely to be rejected.

Of course Geller is going bonkers over the issue, framing it as “Shariah law” submission and the whole lot, when it has to do with technical legalese rather than any impending “dhimmi” capitulation to “Islamization.” But what do you expect?:

Michigan City Bans Anti-Islam Bus Ads

(Opposing Views)

CINCINNATI (CN) – The public transit authority in southeastern Michigan has the right to ban advertisements that it deems political for targeting Islam, the 6th Circuit ruled.

Though a federal judge in Detroit had previously granted the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI) an injunction, a three-judge appellate panel upheld the viewpoint-neutral ban on political advertising enforced by the Suburban Mobility Authority for Regional Transportation (SMART).

AFDI, a nonprofit that “acts against … government officials, the mainstream media and others,” had said that SMART violated its First Amendment rights in refusing to run its ad promoting the website RefugeFromIslam.com.

The ad read as follows: “Fatwa on your head? Is your family or community threatening you? Leaving Islam? Got questions? Get Answers! RefugefromIslam.com.”

In granting the injunction last year, U.S. District Judge Denise Hood noted that SMART had allowed an atheist advertisement by the Detroit Coalition for Reason.

The appellate panel rejected this comparison, however, because “the atheist advertisement could be viewed as a general outreach to people who share the Detroit Coalition’s beliefs, without setting out any position that could result in political action. The fatwa advertisement, however, addresses a specific issue that has been politicized.”

Advertising space on SMART buses is a nonpublic forum, according to the ruling. “SMART … has completely banned political advertising, showing its intent to act as a commercial proprietor and to maintain its advertising space for purposes that indicate that the space is a nonpublic forum,” Judge John Rogers wrote for the court. “Allowing the discussion of politics would likely decrease SMART’s revenue,” he added. “For example, if a fast-food restaurant sold advertising space on the side of its store to a neo-Nazi political group for a campaign advertisement, the restaurant would be likely to lose business. Similarly, SMART’s ridership likely would diminish were SMART to allow political advertisements.”

AFDI argued that the ban on political advertising was unconstitutional, but Rogers countered by citing the 1974 case Lehman v. City of Shaker Heights, writing that “an outright ban on political advertisements is permissible if it is a ‘managerial decision’ focused on increasing revenue to limit advertising ‘space to innocuous and less controversial commercial and service oriented advertising.’”

After confirming that SMART’s policy against political advertising is permissible, the panel concluded that “it was reasonable for SMART to conclude that the content of AFDI’s advertisement – the purported threat of violence against nonconforming Muslims in America – is, in America today, decidedly political.”

The panel cited AFDI’s own complaint for evidence of its political agenda, writing that “the complaint explains that AFDI ‘promotes its political objectives by, inter alia, sponsoring anti-jihad bus and billboard campaigns, which includes seeking advertising space on SMART vehicles.’”

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    • mr.ed

      Political speech is the most highly protected in the US. The ads, as distasteful and untrue as they are, will eventually go up.

  • mindy1

    WOOT Go Michigan

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon Arrested, Will Pamela Geller Be Next?

By on October 22, 2012 in Loon People

Stockholm, 8/4/12: US Islamophobes, Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller proudly stand shoulder-to-shoulder with co-founder and EDL thug, Stephen Lennon, aka Tommy Robinson.

(h/t: Jai)

SION’s closest UK allies are in deep water. On top of 53 EDL activists being arrested, EDL leader Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (aka Tommy Robinson) was also arrested by Met police for entering the USA illegally.

Following yesterday’s police operation that saw 53 EDL activists including EDL leaders Tommy Robinson and Kevin Carroll arrested, things are looking a little bleak for the tiny tinpot racist.

Tommy has been released on bail pending further enquiries and he has taken to Twitter to reveal how much trouble he is actually in.

Not forgetting several court cases that are pending with Robinson, he appears to be on the point of being remanded in prison for entering the USA illegally last month.

Tommy writes “Been arrested for fraud for flying to America for invitation to speak in new York on Sept 11th. Met police are a joke …#political policing”

He also claims he has been arrested on suspicion of assaulting the Luton based Islamic extremist Sayful Islam.

Tommy isn’t happy, but if his Twitter claims are true I am !!

For more on the arrests of Yaxley-Lennon and his comrades, see: “Tommy Robinson Remanded: In Custody for Entering the US Illegally“, “Tommy Robinson and 53 EDL supporters held after Police Motorway Sting,” and the “Statement by the Met Police.”

This may bode ill for Pamela Geller considering the fact that (according to an article by the British anti-racism organisation “Hope Not Hate”) at the time Geller is also on record as claiming that she was involved in “sneaking Yaxley-Lennon into the country,” it will be interesting to see if she is arrested/prosecuted by the relevant US immigration authorities too. Yaxley-Lennon appears to have been aware that he was in trouble about all this, as last week he tweeted Geller about his recent trip to the US and expressed his wish to privately discuss matters further: http://twitpic.com/b3ceqv/full.

Pamela Geller is going hysterical at the moment on her blog ranting with the usual verbal diarrhea about the UK government being “dhimmis” and “weak” and how this is an unprecedented attack on “freedom fighters” like herself, etc. Sounds like she is scared that she will be exposed  in this mess as well.

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    • Jai

      “New Europe” have published an excellent article summarising recent events, cross-published by Hope Not Hate. I’ve highlighted a few key areas in bold below.

      Links: http://hopenothate.org.uk/news/article/2465/british-far-right-collapses, http://www.neurope.eu/article/british-far-right-collapses

      Full article:

      British far right collapses New Europe by Andy Carling | Tuesday, 23 October 2012

      Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, leader of the English Defence League (EDL), has spent years in a controversial campaign to see “extremist Muslims” imprisoned and is now complaining that the prison he is now in is “full of Muslim extremists.”

      Yaxley-Lennon and 52 others have been arrested in a dramatic police swoop as they travelled to London for an unofficial demonstration outside a mosque. The far right extremists, including candidate for Bedfordshire Police Commissioner, Kev Carroll had hired trucks for the extremists to hide in as they attempted to reach their destination unnoticed. The police were aware of the operation and stopped the vehicles and arrested the occupants.

      Yaxley-Lennon has been charged with assault and using a false passport to attend a demonstration in New York in September, which carries both the risk of being extradited to the US or a sentence of up to 10 years in the UK.

      This may be the same false identity he used to enter the European Parliament earlier in the year for a covert meeting of extremists, including several repeatedly praised by Norwegian killer, Anders Breivik.

      Sajjad Karim MEP, whose house was invaded by EDL thugs, three of which were imprisoned for the demonstration said, “It is deeply alarming to hear that such a high profile extremist figure was able to enter and exit America with false documentation. And this comes after his anti-Islam speech in the European Parliament in July where again he entered by using false documents. This lunatic is a danger to society and must be reprimanded.”

      The fortunes of the EDL have faded over the last year, to a point where they can no longer bring people to demonstrations in significant numbers. A high turnout now is around 10% of their peak.

      They have also failed to transform themselves into a political force. Not only have they failed to articulate a policy agenda, in May Yaxley-Lennon and his cousin Kev Carroll became vice-chairmen of the British Freedom Party, an organization with a tiny membership, founded by Paul Watson, formerly of UKIP.

      [Yaxley-Lennon] resigned from the party in October, after a disastrous EDL demonstration in Walthamstow in London. The poorly attended rally was halted by local people and the EDL leaders ran back to Luton, leaving their members to be arrested and held for hours.

      The EDL members have not provided a boost to the BFP membership. However, Yaxley-Lennon has been courted by American ‘counter-jihadists’ like Pamela Geller, whose demonstration he attended in New York, which has now landed him in trouble.

      Paul Weston has tried to stand by the EDL leader. He visited Wormwood Scrubs prison in London demanding to meet Yaxley-Lennon but was arrested for causing a breach of the peace. The ineptitude of the far-right party can be seen from the fact that Yaxley-Lennon was actually in Wandsworth prison, some distance away.

      The EDL have promised to return to Walthamstow, but with all 53 of those arrested barred from the area, it is hard to see how it will be anything but another failure.

      However, as the EDL collapses into chaos, and there is further trouble coming as they search for the informer behind the latest arrests, members’ attitudes have hardened, with more open threats of violence and even acts of terrorism are debated between them, not only privately but on social networks.

      The decline is mirrored in the British National Party, who now only have one MEP, Nick Griffin after his colleague, Andrew Brons quit the party. Many were surprised that Brons was still a member, having been at odds with Griffin for some time. Brons claims that “80% or 90% of the party’s membership, activists and former officials have left it and disappeared in several different directions.”

      Griffin may be joining the EDL leader in prison. After a recent court ruling where a gay couple were compensated for being turned away from a guest house, run by Christians, the BNP leader sent messages over the social media service Twitter, spreading the couple’s home address and promising that they would be visited by “a British Justice team.”

      Griffin has announced that he was prepared to go to jail over the issue, telling a Christian radio station, “I don’t want to, but the fact is that we are in, now, a totalitarian society where the indigenous majority of Christians and heterosexuals are the oppressed majority and I’m prepared to go to prison to protect their rights.”

      With the EDL and BNP, who detest each other, short of funds, having their political ambitions thwarted and the membership dissolving into competing splinter groups or giving up entirely, the far right in Britain is dying.

      This is not surprising. They are convinced that Islam is about to enslave the world. In the real world, people are concerned over the financial crisis and the effects of austerity. Instead of addressing this, the far right has been living in a paranoid fantasy world, completely disconnected from the hopes and fears of ordinary people.

      Yaxley-Lennon is due in court 7 January 2013.

    • Rights

      I am certainly pleased on account that the law enforcement agencies are willing to arrest those potential terrorists who are not Muslims and whose only association with Muslims and Islam is their hatred of Muslims and Islam.

    • Heinz Catsup

      @Xithurel

      Animal? Really? Okay, humans may be mentally superior & all but I feel comparing Geller to an animal is an insult as animals are far better than humans like her as they do not wish to hurt you unless they feel threatened or abused and wish to defend themselves as a result.

    • Nevermore

      “I guess that Geller and all these arseholes believe they are above the law.”

      They only like the law when it manages to find ways to club Muslims over the head. Whenever the law doesn’t work in their favor, they’ll shriek about ‘liberal enablers’ and ‘creeping shariah law.’ It’s a remarkably schizophrenic attitude, all things considered.

    • moosern

      It is illegal to aid someone into the US illegally. The penalty is a fine and/or 5 years in prison. Unless it was done so for financial gain then it’s 10 years. Oh, the irony of someone who wants to deport immigrants going to prison for being a coyote.

  • wajjpuff

    Dear oh Dear…..how can you takes loons like tommy robinson seriously when he pulls stunts like this.

    his joke of a movement the EDL gets their ass’s handed to them whenever they make a public appearance in the UK……..long may that continue

    as for tommy lets hope the americans are not gentle on him at all

“Jewish” Pamela Geller’s “Christian” EDL ally rants about non-Christians being “pagans”

By on October 22, 2012 in Feature, Loon People

Robert Spencer – Kevin Carroll – Pamela Geller – Stephen Yaxley-Lennon – Stockholm August 2012

Original guest article by Jai

Readers will be aware that Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller’s main British allies are the English Defence League/British Freedom Party leadership. The EDL’s “second-in-command” is Kevin Carroll, who is also the BFP’s co-deputy leader. Along with EDL leader/BFP deputy leader Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (aka “Tommy Robinson”), Kevin Carroll was involved in hosting the anti-Muslim demonstration in Stockholm in August 2012 alongside Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, BFP leader Paul Weston, and European neo-Nazis.

Kevin Carroll at Pamela Geller’s “SION” anti-Muslim conference in New York

Along with Yaxley-Lennon, Kevin Carroll was also one of the main speakers at Geller’s anti-Muslim conference in New York on September 11th 2012, a fact that Geller has enthusiastically publicised on her “Atlas Shrugs” website. Other speakers included David Yerushalmi, who has represented Geller in various lawsuits. Kevin Carroll himself repeatedly made false claims about the current situation in the United Kingdom and continued his long-term behaviour pattern of hijacking Christianity. He previously attended Geller’s demonstration against the so-called “Ground Zero Mosque” in New York in September 2010.

Kevin Carroll’s views on non-Christians

Ironically, in December 2010, Kevin Carroll wrote a number of very revealing comments on Facebook which were posted online on his behalf by Yaxley-Lennon’s PA Hel Gower (multiple screenshots here). In these comments:

1. Kevin Carroll ranted about executing “traitors”, ie. opponents of the EDL. 2. Kevin Carroll continued by ranting about Britain being “a Christian country not a multicultural one”, and he also explicitly described Christianity as “the fundamental culture” of Britain. 3. Kevin Carroll is clearly (mis)using “multicultural” to mean “multireligious” (and similarly, misusing “culture” to mean “religion”). 4. Kevin Carroll ranted about Britain being a Christian country absolutely everywhere. 5. Kevin Carroll explicitly described non-Christians as “pagans”. 6. Kevin Carroll ranted that he will never “bend or bow” to such “pagans”. 7. Apart from confirming the EDL/BFP leadership’s fanatical religious supremacism, Kevin Carroll’s statements also:

a) Confirm their extreme bigotry towards non-Christians in general, not just Muslims, including the various non-Christian groups the EDL/BFP leadership are cynically trying to court as allies against Muslims;

and b) Most revealing of all, Kevin Carroll’s bigoted statements about “pagans” also expose the EDL/BFP leadership’s real attitudes towards their American Jewish allies Pamela Geller, David Yerushalmi, and Robert Spencer’s “boss” David Horowitz.

It is currently unclear whether Geller, Yerushalmi and Horowitz are aware of what their main British allies actually think of them, or whether they are so utterly lacking in self-respect that they are happy to be formally allied with individuals who are on record as explicitly stating how much they despise non-Christians and regard them as “pagans”.

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    • Géji

      JSB, “or why you are so bothered by evidence that Israel is neither completely evil nor completely good.”

      You still not seeing? “Israel”, IS Palestine.

    • Just Stopping By

      @Géji: “JSB, lets drop it! clearly you don’t see Palestine.”

      I’m not sure what you mean. I support a fully independent state of Palestine and an independent state of Israel, the two-state solution. If you mean that I don’t support a one-state solution, that is true mostly because I don’t think that it would be successful but would devolve into a civil war in which people of many religions and ethnicities would die. I have no desire to support a plan that I think would increase the amount of bloodshed all around, though I respect those who think that such a plan would be successful.

      And, with the two-state solution, I do not think that either state should be ethnically pure, but that both should treat their minorities as full citizens with equal rights.

      I understand you may not support my position, but I don’t see why it bothers you so much, or why you are so bothered by evidence that Israel is neither completely evil nor completely good.

    • AJ

      @Géji,

      I think JSB sees Palestine.

      @JSB,

      If you are a certain poster with their first name beginning with S, I am positive you see Palestine.

      In any case, there is God and there will be justice, insh’Allah!

    • Géji

      JSB, lets drop it! clearly you don’t see Palestine. And I certainly never saw a “Jewish State” in Palestine.

  • Just Stopping By

    @Zakariya Ali Sher: “Also, has Pipes not gone on record claiming that there is ‘no such thing’ as moderate Islam or some such? I might be getting him confused with other Islamophobes.” Close. Here’s what he said at one point: “Moderate Muslims do exist. But, of course, they constitute a very small movement when compared to the Islamist onslaught.” http://www.danielpipes.org/4426/bolstering-moderate-muslims

    @Géji: I brought Danios’ statement into this because I wanted to show that some of Pipes’ statements are pretty much the same as those of people you may admire. However, as I said above, Pipes also makes outlandish statements that essentially say that no Muslim is to be trusted in the US government, and Danios has absolutely never (to my knowledge) made any type of analogous statement. The question I originally addressed dealt with how Pipes can maintain some degree of connection with the mainstream Jewish community, and the answer is that he has a lot of reasonable-sounding material that he can use to claim that he is moderate; only when people investigate him do they find the bigoted material.

    “tell me, what are the difference & similarities of between current regimes leading the ‘Jewish state’ vs that of Gaza?” Israel has growing Christian and Muslim minorities. All Jews were expelled or fled from Gaza around 1949 (they of course came back as settlers but left again recently), and the Christian population in Gaza is shrinking dramatically. The charter of Hamas, the elected leadership in Gaza says, “For our struggle against the Jews is extremely wide-ranging and grave,” while Israel’s Declaration of Independence says, “we yet call upon the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to return to the ways of peace and play their part in the development of the State, with full and equal citizenship and due representation in its bodies and institutions – provisional or permanent.” I certainly won’t say that Israel has fully lived up to those statements in how it treats its citizens (to say nothing of how it treats non-citizens in the West Bank and Gaza), nor would I deny the racism in Israel, but it also has affirmative action programs to increase educational and workforce attainment by what is called “the Arab sector” and has had or still has Arabs in positions such as government minister, ambassador, military general, and Supreme Court justice. Also, it may be the only “Western” country that pays Islamic courts to administer rulings according to shariah.

This is What You Can Expect From a Mitt Romney Presidency: Islamophobia

By on October 16, 2012 in Feature, Loon Blogs, Loon Politics

It’s going to be Islamophobia on crack if Mitt Romney wins (thanks for all who sent in tips):

Pamela Geller, for all those who’ve forgotten is the looniest blogger ever. Everything out of her mouth competes with everything she has said in the past to be more over-the-top, racist, hateful, and Islamophobic.

Just take look at a sampling of her positions over the past three years:

Pamela Geller calls for the destruction of the Golden Dome;  Obama is a Mooslim, Jihadist, Pimp, anti-Semite who is aiding the Iranian Nuclear program;  Sharia Coke is taking over the world, it is defamation of Judaism and Christianity for Islam to include Moses and Jesus as Prophets of Islam;  Pamela Geller is a Holocaust Revisionist who claims that Hitler and the Nazis adopted Jihad;  Not only is Obama a secret Muslim, but according to Pamela Geller,  “Obama is bringing his jihad to Illinois…Obama’s treachery is breathtaking“;  Pamela Geller calls for the nuking of Mecca, Medina, and Tehran;  Pamela Geller promotes a genocidal video, Pamela Geller shows sympathy towards white supremacist;  Screenshot of Pamela Geller’s post on June 25th wherein she posted a video claiming that Muslims engage in bestiality;  Pamela Geller left speechless when called out for drawing a picture of the Prophet Muhammad with a pig’s face.

More serious than Geller posing in a pic with Mitt Romney is the insidious nature of Romney’s ties with the Islamophobia movement. Romney’s senior foreign policy adviser is none other than former Bush era UN Ambassador John Bolton.

One can only hope that in tonight’s debate the moderator questions Romney about his ties to radicals and inclusion of Islamophobes like John bolton on his staff. Gus from Little Green Footballs has compiled an incisive compilation of the ties between Bolton and Geller.:

Exhibit C: Mitt Romney Campaign Senior Foreign Policy Adviser John Bolton and Pamela Geller

Romney foreign policy adviser with hate group leader Pamela Geller in numerous meetings.

About John Bolton:

John Robert Bolton (born November 20, 1948) is an American lawyer and diplomat who has served in several Republican administrations. Appointed on a recess appointment, he served as the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations from August 2005 until December 2006. He resigned in December 2006, when the recess appointment would have otherwise ended, because he was unlikely to win senate confirmation.

John Bolton and Mitt Romney

Bolton is currently a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), frequent op-ed contributor to the Wall Street Journal and the National Review, Fox News Channel commentator, foreign policy adviser to 2012 presidential candidate Mitt Romney, and of counsel to the law firm Kirkland & Ellis, in their Washington D.C. office…

The reader should be reminded of the connection between Anders Breivik and Pamela Geller. There is also a connection between Anders Brevik and Robert Spencer.Tommy Robinson’s hooliganism and right-wing extremism is notorious and too extensive to cover here. You can however find many articles covering his organization, the English Defence League, which has been covered extensively at LGF including his connection to Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer.

There is no vast conspiracy at play here. However, it should be disturbing enough that the senior foreign policy adviser to Mitt Romney, John Bolton, has the ear of anti-Islam extremist, Pamela Geller. Her connection with the EDL makes this plainly obvious. This my friends is the post-modern conservative movement, where we find odious characters in the Republican big tent whose lives are intertwined; in this case from Mitt Romney to Pamela Geller; Tommy Robinson (EDL), Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller; and most importantly, the close relationship of John Bolton and Pamela Geller.

Update I: Michael Elwood reminds us that another Islamophobe, Walid Phares is also a part of the Romney’s inner circle,

John Bolton isn’t the only Islamophobe in Romney’s inner circle. His main Middle East advisor is Walid Phares:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/10/walid-phares-mitt-romney-lebanese-forces

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/10/2011102673018375864.html

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    • Michael Elwood

      Is his blog up and running againg? What’s with all the glitches?

    • Michael Elwood

      Did Kunwar Khuldune Shahid take down his Telegraph blog? If you google his name, the first result was his Telegraph article (even ahead of his facebook and and twitter page). And right under his article was my refutation of it that I posted on Oct. 23. He also abruptly stopped tweeting on the 23rd (except for one tweet on the 25th):

      https://twitter.com/khuldune

      His friends at the Council of Ex Muslims also mentioned his Telegraph article, then abruptly stopped talking about it on the 23rd:

      http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=bf47039694cc8ae3a6a85e94d14fa201&topic=22152.30

      What a bunch of phonies! I guess they had to do this to keep Kunwar’s career as a professional ex- Muslim (a la Wafa Sultan and Ayaan Hiirsi Ali) from ending before it even began. Let me post my other two comments here since the “brave” and “courageous” atheist took down his blog like a punk:

      I jokingly said you should call yourself a neoconservative instead of a paleoconsevative because some paleocons, including Muslims like Dr. Robert D. Crane and Prof. Richard S. Voss, aren’t Islamophobes. I disagree with their political views, but they are reasonable in their views of Islam and Muslims.

      paleocon44 says: “Kinda IS the point. There’s Islamic violence in many Countries throughout the world.”

      It kinda isn’t the point. Do you see what I mean by circular reasoning? How is the violence that you see everywhere “Islamic” when Islamic scripture prohibits wanton violence? Because you keep insisting that it’s “Islamic”?

      paleocon say: “I like the “living in peace” obfuscation since an absence of Terrorist acts is NOT necessarily ‘peace’.”

      The absence of violence is the very definition of peace.

      paleocon44 says: “Hopefully, we in the USA can avoid the obvious results of attempting to placate Islamists, stop immigration for a while to sort things out and stop enforcing Islamic Blasphemy Laws (so-called Hate speech which opposes Freedom of Speech) for a start.”

      LOL! Many American Muslims aren’t immigrants. Me, Robert D Crane, Richard Voss, Melissa Robinson, Kelly Wentworth, Keith Ellison, Andre Carson, Fire Marshal Kevin James, Dave Chappelle, Ryan Harris, Jermaine Jackson, Fatimah Jackson, and millions of other American Muslims and their families have probably been in this country longer than you and your family. Ironically, many of the Islamophobes like Sam Bacile, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Nonie Darwish, Wafa Sultan, Walid Shoebat, Brigitte Gabriel, Jamie Glazov, etc. are the ones who are immigrants. If you stop immigration, you’d hurt Islamophobia more than you’d hurt Islam.

      As for “enforcing Islamic Blasphemy Laws”, I already demonstrated in my previous post that there is no clamor among American Muslims for “blasphemy laws” and there is no support for it in Islamic scripture. Stop projecting your beliefs onto Muslims! The Pussy Riot may get jail time for blasphemy against Christianity in Russia, but no one has ever gotten jail time for blasphemy against Islam in America.

      paleocon44 says: “As for the rest of your screed: It’s silly of you to try to deflect me and it’s silly of you to pretend, here, that the Islamic writings of the Quran, Hadithic, et al, do NOT justify the violence we can see all around the World.”

      What’s silly is your claim that the Quran justifies violence (which I refuted in my previous post). Equally silly is the implication that Islam is whatever “Muslims” do. I’d be willing to except that only if you also agree that Judaism, Christianity, atheism, etc. is whatever Jews, Christians, and atheists do.

      paleocon44 says: “‘Allahu Ackbar is the cry of Islamic rioters, rapists, murderers et al, the World over. . . .”

      Whoop-dee-doo! What’s the cry of Christian rioters, rapist, and murderers around the world like Anders Brevik, EDL, Golden Dawn, Ku Klux Klan, Christian Identity, Hutaree, Blackwater, Lord’s Restance Army, Caballeros Templarios (Knights Templar), La Familia Michoacana (the Family), National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT), and Manmasi National Christian Army (MNCA)?

      paleocon44 says: “But they’re asking questions. They see Malaysia, Mali, Indonesia with their new Muslim majority destroying Holy sites of non-Muslims, tearing down Christian/Hindu/Indian, Natives, etc, places of worship, kill their fellow-Muslims (Shia vs. Sunni and both killing Alawites, etc.) EVERYWHERE they gain authority.”

      Malaysia, Mali, and Indonesia, have been majority Muslim for centuries. There’s nothing “new” about that. What is new is the Sunni minority trying to impose itself on the non-Sunni majority. According to a Pew survey, 56% of Indonesians identify themselves as “just Muslim” while only 26% identify as Sunni. 55% of Malians identify as “just Muslim” while only 20% identify as Sunnis. If I said Christians are trying to impose a Papacy and Canon Law in America you wouldn’t take me serious, if only because Catholics are a minority in America. Yet you expect me to take you seriously when you claim that Sunni minorities are going to impose a Sunni Caliphate and Sunni law not only in their own secular democratic countries, but around the world.

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      paleocon44 says: “lololol….. How many of you guys are working this ‘line’, anyway? Two? Three, I think.”

      It’s just me, Michael Elwood. I logged in with a Telegraph account because I was having trouble logging in with Facebook.

      paleocon44 says: “Well done! I usually escape the endless, meaningless… from your side, natch… l;-]… pre-canned arguments you trot out when you encounter idiots… well meaning, but idiots… like me.”

      If it makes you feel any better, supposedly smarter secular Islamophobes don’t do any better.

      paleocon44 says: “For anyone else following this fruitless back-n-forth who would like to learn more on this subject of Islamazation, I recommend the Gates of Vienna blog: Calm discourse without a ‘rabble-rouse’ to be seen. Urgent though… Islamic darkness is descending over the UK, EU et al.”

      If you want to learn more Gates of Vienna, I suggest the following links:

      https://www.loonwatch.com/2011/09/gates-of-vienna-incites-for-muslim-holocaust/

      https://www.loonwatch.com/2011/10/fjordman-back-at-gates-of-vienna-whose-tipsters-include-caroline-glick/

      https://www.loonwatch.com/2012/07/gates-of-vienna-hateblogger-ned-may-speaks-at-european-parliament-whines-about-lgf/

    • @DrM

      By the way, I agree with everything else you wrote in you last comment. Other than that it was spot on. Watcher really doesn’t think critically and it shows.

    • @DrM

      I happen to know a couple of Zionists who aren’t deranged. Try not to lump people together.

    • DrM

      watcher blabbed :

      “Let me make a prediction, if Obama gets re-elected, he will betray Israel in the second term.”

      So that’s what this is about, spoken like a typical deranged zionist(there are no other type). Never mind the fact that all your rubbish talking points have been refuted. According to you, Obama is killing Muslims with drones to maintain a pretense. Talk about teabagger spin and wishful thinking. I guess this is the natural result of chewing on Spencer’s excrement. Get back to me when you find those mythical Iraqi WMDs, idiot.

    • @Watcher

      Doesn’t large numbers of Muslims killing and betraying other Muslims go against the entire idea that Muslims are united front? It doesn’t exactly support the idea that most if not all Muslims are working together to take down America and Israel and the west in general. As for Obama’s views on things like Abortion and Gay Marriage, haven’t you heard of liberal Christians? Not all Christians support the religious right or the Republican party. Have you ever heard of people like Reverend Barry Lynn?

      http://www.au.org/about/people/lynn

      He doesn’t exactly think the government should outlaw gay marriage, and believes Abortion should remain legal under all circumstances. Come out and say he’s not a true Christian and you have committed the “No True Scotsmen” fallacy.

      Obama’s leftwing political views do not change the fact that he’s a Christian. Individual Christians have radically different interpretations of the faith, and what role, if any it should play in the government. The same goes for Muslims as well. There are Muslims who are anti Abortion and anti gay marriage, as well as Muslims who support Roe V Wade, and think that gays should be allowed to get married.

      I have friend whose a liberal ex Muslim turned atheist, whose upset with her Muslim father because he still supports the Republican party, in large part due to their opposition to gay marriage. I wouldn’t be surprised he also supported their anti abortion stance. Based on What she told me, her dad doesn’t really seem to care much about all the Islamophobia in the Republican Party, in spite of the fact that he’s a Muslim.

      As for Obama’s Cairo speech, it was only suspicious to people who already believed that he was a secret Muslim plotting the over throw of America. Him, praising Egypt, proves nothing. He wants them to be our ally. Why wouldn’t he say nice things about them and their country?

      Also even if America goes bankrupt under Obama, it wouldn’t give us any reason to think it was on purpose. If it was his fault, it would be far more likely to be due to mistakes, rather than some deliberate conspiracy to destroy America. As President, its not exactly in his interest to destroy the country he’s in charge of.

      As for Israel. I would be willing to bet you, that no matter what happens you’ll accuse Obama of betraying Israel, just so you won’t have to admit you were wrong. You have no good reason to think he’s planning on betraying Israel, when he hasn’t already, especially considering the fact that all your arguments are utterly pathetic.

    • Watcher

      @CriticalDragon1177

      Muslims killing and betraying Muslims isn’t that a huge part of the the Arab-spring !?

      Obama’s politics concerning abortion and gay-marriage proved his false claim concerning Christianity and the motive behind this is the Christian vote in America. Also his Cairo speech was very suspicious. Then there is the devastating politics of having Muslims in the US Army. The justification of the murder of the ambassador in Libya, etc.

      Just recently, Ahmadinejad suggested the US going bankrupt and one of the tactics is luring the US in an exhausting war against terror. For America going bankrupt, Obama comes in handy.

      Let me make a prediction, if Obama gets re-elected, he will betray Israel in the second term.

    • @Watcher

      Yes we should come to the conclusion that Obama is a Muslim extremist just because of couple videos. One that’s incredibly vague and other that was likely a slip up, which in no way proves he’s not a Christian like he says he is. In addition he’s having the US military kill genuine Muslim extremists as cover, the same Muslim extremists who would be the ones most likely to want to do the things you suspect him of secretly doing. Tell me, how does that make any sense?

      Also even after the elections, lets say Obama really did want to replace the constitution with Sharia, and turn the united states into theocracy based on an extremist interpretation of Islam like Saudi Arabia. How exactly would he do that, given the fact that most Americans, including most Muslim Americans wouldn’t support him?

      What Is Truth About American Muslims : Interfaith Alliance http://interfaithalliance.org/americanmuslimfaq

    • Watcher

      @Zakariya Ali Sher

      ‘If Obama is so ‘friendly’ towards Islam, then why did he up the drone attacks in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen? Why doesn’t he pull troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan?’

      – end quote

      Obama needs to keep up the pretension, he can not be to obvious about his real purposes. This all for the sake of being re-elected. After his re-election he will have a kind of freehand to implemented his true intentions:

      The following recordings are telling:

    • Michael Elwood

      @Chameleon

      It seems to be working now. I posted a response to him (along with some links to Loon Watch). But I don’t intend to engage with him for much longer.

    • Chameleon

      @Michael,

      You say, “But I couldn’t respond because I’m having trouble logging in. I don’t know if that’s by accident or design.”

      That is one reason I prefer to post on Muslim sites or strongly independent sites. Another reason is that I am writing primarily for the benefit of other Muslims, not just to win arguments against zombies who are incapable of a proper rebuttal and just parrot propaganda all day long. That said, since you had trouble posting, I put in a post on your behalf to the guy who replied to you, just for some entertainment value.

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MondoWeiss: Pamela Geller’s 9/11 gathering features speaker calling for Islam to be ‘wiped out’

By on October 6, 2012 in Loon People, Loon Politics

Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer cozy up to Islamophobes who echo their own sentiments about wanting to see “Islam wiped off.” Spencer laughs at Hindu nationalist speaker at SION 9/11 event who compared Islam to bacteria, Muslims to rats and said “Islam will be wiped out.”

A few choice words by Dr. Babu Suseelan, a Hindu activist in Pennsylvania, provided one of these occasions.

“If we do not kill the bacteria,” the jowly Suseelan scolded the audience, “the bacteria will kill us.” Otherwise, he warned, “Muslims will breed like rats and they will be a majority.” Still, he concluded hopefully, “Islam can be stopped! And it can be wiped out.”

Spencer laughed, but Geller covered her face, as if witnessing the antics of a naughty child.

Pamela Geller’s 9/11 gathering features speaker calling for Islam to be ‘wiped out’

by Alex Kane (MondoWeiss)

On September 11, most Americans carried on with their day, perhaps pausing for a moment to reflect on the terrorist attacks in 2001. But not the crew of Islamophobes who have exploited the attacks as an opportunity to foment hatred of Muslims and profit off that hatred.

Leading anti-Muslim bloggers Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer held a September 11 gathering in New York City titled “D-Day in the Information Battle Space.” An initiative of what they call the International Freedom Defense Congress, the conference focused on “Islamic supremacist attempts to restrict the freedom of speech in the free world, and the smear campaigns against freedom fighters in newspapers and media institutions in the West,” in the words of Geller.

The gathering brought together speakers from anti-Muslim movements around the globe, including Tommy Robinson of the English Defense League, a violent far-right group. David Yerushalmi, the racist Orthodox Jewish lawyer who has lived in an illegal Israeli settlement, was a speaker as well. And David Storobin, the Brooklyn state senator who created some buzz after being photographed in an Israeli army uniform, spoke to Geller’s conference too.

It was the latest attempt by Geller and her cohort to forge cross-continental links to other anti-Muslim activists. The precursor to this event was a gathering in Stockholm, Sweden that likewise brought together a host of anti-Muslim activists from around the world. Before that, there was the founding of the Stop Islamization of Nations group, “designed to promote an umbrella network of counter-jihad groups across Europe and the US,” as The Guardian reported.

Brooklyn-based writer Aaron Labaree attended the New York September 11 gathering for Guernica Magazine. Labaree reports that Geller opened up the conference with a speech to attendees that called on “every single one” of them to “be a soldier” in the battle to “save the republic.”

By far the most disturbing aspect of Labaree’s report is this snippet:

A few choice words by Dr. Babu Suseelan, a Hindu activist in Pennsylvania, provided one of these occasions.

“If we do not kill the bacteria,” the jowly Suseelan scolded the audience, “the bacteria will kill us.” Otherwise, he warned, “Muslims will breed like rats and they will be a majority.” Still, he concluded hopefully, “Islam can be stopped! And it can be wiped out.”

Spencer laughed, but Geller covered her face, as if witnessing the antics of a naughty child.

Geller may have covered her face, perhaps in slight embarrassment that the activists she cavorts around with have no problem calling for the “wipe out” of an entire religion. But these are her allies.

But the fact that this rhetoric was inevitable may have caused the most high-profile speaker scheduled, John Bolton, to decide it was against his better interest to attend the conference. Bolton is a top neoconservative and a former official in the Bush administration, and is now advising Mitt Romney.

Bolton is an ally of Geller, as The Nation’s Wayne Barrett noted. “Bolton, who has campaigned repeatedly with Romney, is so close to Geller and Spencer that he wrote the foreword to their 2010 book, The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration’s War on America, and has done several interviews with Geller, cozily discussing Middle East policy in couch videos,” reports Barrett. In the midst of a campaign season, though, Bolton appearing at a conference like this was bound to attract attention that the Romney campaign could do without. So even though Bolton was advertised as being a speaker at the conference, he never planned on showing.

I emailed an assistant to Bolton, Christine Samuelian of the American Enterprise Institute, before the gathering took place. Samuelian told me that the event was “not on his calendar…He has done it in the past and they may have assumed he was going to do it again this year but he did not commit to anything.”

But think again if you take this as a sign that the GOP is trying to ditch its anti-Muslim wing. The optics of a Romney adviser meeting with people who call for Islam to be “wiped out” would not be good, but the larger alliance is still there. As Labaree explains:

National politicians generally don’t get photographed with anyone who talks like Geller or Spencer, but they are happy to be associated with them at just one level of remove. Last weekend, the Family Research Council held its annual conference in Washington, D.C. The FRC’s Executive Vice President, retired General Jerry Boykin, has gained notoriety for his paranoid rants against Islam, which he has called “the religion of Satan.” The FRC conference’s featured speaker this year was Paul Ryan. And the Ground Zero Mosque affair of 2010 drew plenty of politicians of national stature, including Newt Gingrich and Rep. Peter King, of New York, who made opposition to the “mosque” his signature issue.

These politicians take SION’s position because it’s popular. Most Americans don’t get high on outrage the way Geller and Spencer do, but many are receptive to their ideas about Islam. A recent poll by the Public Religion Research Institute and the Brookings Institution found that almost half of Americans surveyed believe the values of Islam are incompatible with American values; the same percentage would be uncomfortable with a mosque being built in their neighborhood. This is theoretical, of course. Most people don’t have a mosque in their neighborhood: as of 2011, Muslims made up less than 1 percent of the U.S. population (Jews account for 1.6 percent, Mormons 1.9 percent, atheists and agnostics 15 percent). So far, the struggle in which SION attendees are supposed to be soldiers is a fantasy. But if Israel and Iran go to war, if there’s a major terrorist attack on U.S. soil—counter-jihadists and their allies will likely see their star rise. Meanwhile, Geller instructed the troops assembled to keep on blogging.

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    • AJ

      @JSB,

      “I’m sure. But, even if asked in jest, I treat that question as a great compliment!”

      Awwww thank you JSB!

    • Just Stopping By

      @AJ asks me, “You sure you not a closet Muslim? :-?”

      I’m sure. But, even if asked in jest, I treat that question as a great compliment!

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Robert Spencer’s Attacks on #MyJihad Campaign Debunked

By on October 5, 2012 in Loon Blogs

Robert Spencer’s Attacks on #MyJihad Campaign Debunked

Garibaldi of Loonwatch wrote about a recent twitter exchange between terrorist inspirer and pseudo-scholar Robert Spencer and Civil Rights activist Ahmed Rehab. Spencer was forced into undermining his career long effort to demonize Islam and Muslims, reluctantly conceding that the term Jihad means more than “terrorism” and “violence,” a position he is loathe to share on a daily basis with his readers since it doesn’t fit his scheme of evil Muslim hordes Islamizing the universe.

This fits a pattern of doublespeak on Spencer’s part: on the one hand he tells his audience that there are “no distinctions between peaceful and violent Muslims” and that the “only good Muslim is a bad Muslim,” yet when pressed in public about his positions he backtracks, and says things like, “Islam makes a lot of people be very moral and upright and live fine lives.”

This brings us to Spencer’s recent double speak, in which he tells his fans that the “true meaning” of Jihad is the one that is forwarded by radical Muslim preachers. Intriguingly, Spencer finds himself in the unenviable company of agreeing with extremists such as Omar Bakri, Anjum Chaudhry, Osama Bin Laden and others who believe that the targeted killing of innocents is a legitimate expression of Jihad in Islam.

Spencer’s article begins by first trying to delegitimize the #MyJihad campaign, he writes,

“The deceptive and misleading #MyJihad campaign…”

Off the bat one can see that Spencer has already made up his mind, for him anything that runs counter to the “Jihad is evil” mantra is unacceptable. That is why he is eager to hide the true import of the campaign: giving voice to how millions of Muslims relate to Jihad in their daily lives. The #MyJihad campaign also clearly states on both its website and Facebookpage that its goal is, “taking back Jihad from anti-Muslim and Muslim extremists alike.”

One would think that if Spencer was honest about promoting peace and justice (words he bandies about meaninglessly), and not being anti-Muslim he would welcome such an initiative. Of course Spencer would be out of a David Horowitz Subsidized job if he welcomed the campaign. Spencer goes on to write,

This campaign is designed to foster complacency among Americans, and to blind them to the fact that Islamic jihadists are committing violence in the name of jihad around the world every day.

Spencer is worried by the educational potentiality of the #MyJihad campaign and attempts once again to obfuscate its message. Clearly Spencer missed the memo about what this whole campaign actually is about, let’s repeat it for him,

“taking back Jihad from anti-Muslim and Muslim extremists alike.”

Robert Spencer’s many faulty claims regarding Jihad have been directly debunked in Danios’ Understanding Jihad series. In this series Danios tackles Spencer’s assertions one by one, adding context and facts and also criticizing the enormous falsities Spencer forwards about Jihad, thereby putting “Jihad” in proper perspective. This may be the reason why to this day Robert Spencer refuses to reply to Danios’ rebuttals in the series and has also ran away from Loonwatch’s open invitation to debate.

Also read Sheila Musaji’s article: AFDI/SIOA Roll Out 8 More Anti-Muslim Ads

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    • Jai

      Emperor,

      Robert Spencer’s many faulty claims regarding Jihad have been directly debunked in Danios’ Understanding Jihad series. In this series Danios tackles Spencer’s assertions one by one, adding context and facts and also criticizing the enormous falsities Spencer forwards about Jihad, thereby putting “Jihad” in proper perspective.

      Sheila Musaji’s article, mentioned at the end of the main Loonwatch article above, is definitely worth reading in full: http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/afdi-sioa-roll-out-another-anti-muslim-ad/0019401

      Not only does Pamela Geller plan at least 9 more anti-Muslim ads, but (no doubt in response to the escalating backlash) Robert Spencer himself has disingenuously started trying to publicly distance himself from the ad campaign.

      Furthermore, as Sheila Musaji’s article documents, it turns out that Robert Spencer is on record as publicly admitting that the word “jihad” certainly doesn’t necessarily mean anything negative, including “violence” or even “holy war”. Sheila’s article includes the URL link to Spencer’s own recent JihadWatch article on the subject: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/10/islamic-supremacist-writer-discovers-that-jihad-is-sometimes-connected-to-terrorism.html

      Quote from Spencer’s JihadWatch article:

      Robert Spencer: “This page [explaining Spencer’s decision for choosing the name “Jihad Watch”] has been linked to the front page of the Jihad Watch website since October 2003, and all that time it has said this: “Jihad (Arabic for ‘struggle’) is a central duty of every Muslim. Muslim theologians have spoken of many things as jihads: [for example] the struggle within the soul…..I discuss the various meanings of jihad, including that of spiritual struggle, in my 2003 book Onward Muslim Soldiers and many times elsewhere. On hundreds of radio shows over the years I have explained, as part of my basic explanation of the word, that “jihad” in Arabic has as many connotations and shades of meaning as “struggle” does in English — as I explained in this 2008 interview: “The word means ‘struggle,’ and has as many connotations as the English word ‘struggle’ does. The Islamic Republic of Iran has a Department of Agricultural Jihad, which has to do with the struggle to increase crop yields.””

      It proves that Robert Spencer & Pamela Geller are perfectly aware that they’re deliberately promoting misinformation about Islam & Muslims during their continuing anti-Muslim propaganda campaign, including the current ads in New York.

      Some enterprising organisation should simply create posters quoting Spencer’s statement above and display them right next to Geller’s ads in NY.

    • Hatethehaterz

      Nice article. I think one thing about the term jihad that deserves emphasis is that even in the context of violence and/or war, it only refers to self defense. This is something which I believe Danios also noted well in his series. It is never acceptable in Islam to be the aggressor in violent confrontation. Violence in Islam is only permitted for self defense or the defense of loved ones, or the weak or opressed. That is why the term “counter-jihad” will never really make sense. They are “countering” our right to defend ourselves? Of course we all know that term is simply a veil meant to obfuscate the true meaning of their “movement.” Which is merely anti-Muslim bigotry.

  • Seeker

    How’s Danios doing, anyway? Haven’t seen anything of him for a while. Starting to get a little nervous – you never know what kind of hateful people are out there. Other than that – quite interesting piece here. Loving the #MyJihad campaign.

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