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James Holmes and “Retrospective Jihad”

By on March 24, 2013 in Feature, Loon-at-large

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by Emperor

“Every action is based on intention”–Islamic maxim

What more can one say about the loony, imbecile world of the “counterjihad,” any and everything, no matter how obscene and absurd confirms a preset conclusion; Islam and Muslims are inherently evil.

As if reading out of the Protocols of the Elders of Mecca the desperate legions of anti-Muslim invective made haste to proliferate a Daily Mail article about the alleged jailhouse conversion of James Holmes and his supposed ex-post-facto justification of the atrocity perpetrated in Aurora, Colorado.

FrontPageMagRag‘s favorite genocidalist Daniel Greenfield ran the story, saying it may be another prisoner going “Mohamedan behind bars.” Those self-proclaimed “Jihad experts/reporters,” Spencer and Geller, found the story too juicy to pass up, claiming Holmes was just acting out his own #Myjihad, with Geller speculating if “it was a recent conversion or was there some knowledge about his leanings before the shooting?”

Interestingly, the Daily Mail article itself notes that Muslim inmates are “not happy” about Holmes trying to link his massacre to Islam. So what you have in effect is an allegedly nutty James Holmes and the Islamophobes agreeing with one another about what is and can possibly be Jihad, and the third party, ACTUAL Muslims telling us that there is no way their religion could possibly have anything to do with Holmes’ horrific actions. Oh, the irony!

One does not even have to wonder whether the media or Islamophobes would react in a similar manner if Holmes converted to Judaism or Christianity and proclaimed to justify his actions through those religions!

In any case it is important to highlight the fact that the report on his “conversion” is unverified and relies on “anonymous” sources.

Did Aurora Shooter Convert to Islam?

James Holmes, the alleged Aurora, Colorado, movie theater shooter, has reportedly converted to Islam while in jail. Emphasis on reportedly.

Holmes’ rumored religious conversion has been widely rumored, yet scrutinized by some media sources, citing a lack of credible evidence.

The Daily Mail first ran with the story that Holmes converted to Islam in jail and is now a dedicated Muslim who prays five times a day.

The newspaper received the tip from a prison source, who noted Holmes’ beard, in his most recent court appearance, as evidence of his conversion.

“He has brainwashed himself into believing that he was on his own personal jihad and that his victims were infidels,” the source said of Holmes.

He now abides by a Muslim diet and studies the Quran, supposedly.

The prison source said other Muslim inmates are not happy, given that “They don’t want their religion to be connected to that awful shooting.”

Questions about Holmes’ conversion to Islam started circulating once the Washington Times published the story, with Salon offering heavy scruntiny.

The site discusses the questionable sourcing, noting the unnamed prison source as a problem, as well as the Daily Mail’s history of false reports.

Salon’s main point was that people just ran the rumor as fact:

“It’s entirely possible that Holmes has converted to Islam, and even that he brainwashed himself into ex-post-facto justifying his killing,” the site says.

Yet while “James Holmes is severely disturbed, by all accounts, and could delude himself into thinking anything,” ties to Islam are far from established.

Salon contends that Islam itself has become the story here:

“If Holmes suddenly became a devout Pentecostal or Hindu in prison, would bloggers be connecting the religion to the shooting in the way they are now?”

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    • Awesome

      The comments are always going to be idiotic because those are the only types of comments they permit. Propaganda and Message Force Multipliers that are based on falsehoods lose their effectiveness if you allow dissenting views to thrive, which is why Spencer, Geller, the Daily Mail, etc. censor them.

      Also, like any fad, their campaign needs to constantly be renewed with stories (fake or real) to keep the whole thing running. This is why they put up fake stories like this every now and then when things start to slow down. After all, if the moral panic ends then so do their careers.

    • Seeker

      You spotted it !!!! Despite my red herring you on to thorin’s track !!!! Awesomeness !

      You are the 3rd person to decode this, the first being Honorable Deacon Spender and Her Lady Geller, of course. Please collect your free pass from Michael Jackson.

    • Talking_fish_head

      I had the same problem, it seems to be a problem from the LW severs

    • Talking_fish_head

      Gandalf is the Ayottolah according to their logic

    • golden izanagi

      I forgot gandalf has a beard too could that mean he has for the two thousand years he has walked middle earth has been secretly spreading the sharia under the guise of stopping a great evil from taking over the world?

    • Seeker

      For some reason, I get confused between this guy and Breivik.

    • Seeker

      Yes, that movie sent a secret message out to all the Muslims. It was in Thorin’s beard!!! You’re going to have to watch the movie again to figure it out. If you didn’t get it, I can’t explain it. I’m practicing taqiyya !

    • I hope not, but that’s exactly the same problem I’ve been encountering.

    • Razainc_aka_BigBoss

      So do I I keep getting “Are you sure you want to do this?”

    • I’m not sure either. The last few times I used it, it appeared that it was not. I hope Loon Watch is able to fix it soon.

    • mindy1

      I wanna give him toxic e.coli as for the Geller type haters-GTFO

  • mindy1

    tried to go down the Mayor’s chimney again

Anti-Islam Rightists Target German Youth

By on March 23, 2013 in Loon-at-large

German Rightists Target Youth Online

This organization seems identical to the French organization Generation Identitaire who last year stormed a mosque and occupied it.

Anti-Islam Rightists Target German Youth

Seeking a bigger support among German youth, a rightist group is using Facebook, YouTube and other social media websites to spread its racist, anti-Islam message.

“They are clearly racist,” Alexander Häusler, an expert on right-wing extremism at University of Applied Sciences in Düsseldorf, told Deutsche Welle.

“They are making a major affront on Germany’s multicultural society, composed of immigrants,” he said.

“They mostly criticize the alleged Islamization of Germany.”

Häusler was talking about a German right-wing movement, die Identitäre Bewegung (The Identity Movement), which has been gaining attention through its so-called “fun campaigns” recently.

Putting identity, or the alleged German identity, as its fixed point, the movement focuses on spreading its message mostly on the Net, via Facebook and YouTube.

“We are the identity-generation,” the site states, while declaring itself a protector against the threat of Islam.

“100 percent identity – 0 percent racism,” its website states, while calling for “the protection of the [its] continent from infiltration by foreigners, mass immigration and Islamization.”

These posts on the Identity Movement’s homepage, however, revealed a racist agenda.

“Here, they spread scenarios of a racial apocalypse,’” Häusler said.

“The message is, ‘We are the last generation which can avert the risk of the so-called German identity dieing out.”

The movement’s Facebook page has more than 4,000 fans.

Last November, a new study has revealed the right-wing extremism is notably rising in Germany, particularly in the east of the European country.

The study, “The Changing Society: Right-wing Views in Germany 2012”, found that the number of Germans identifying themselves has grown.

The report indicated that 9 percent of Germans have adopted extreme right-wing beliefs, up from 8.2 percent two years ago.

Veiled Racism

Trying to win public support, the Identity Movement has been portraying itself as modern and funny, boasting that it names social grievances publicly.

“It is a very professional presence, which is very attractive and has an unbelievable number of pop culture references that can be understood by younger people,” Johannes Baldauf of the Amadeu Antonio Foundation, said.

Yet, the movement’s racist views appeared in its symbol, manifesto and online posts.

In its ideology, it reaches deep into the barrel of the new right – the known concept is called “ethnopluralism.”

“They are calling for every race, or let’s say ethnic group, to keep to itself. There especially shouldn’t be any mixing,” Baldauf explained.

The Identity Movement’s manifesto, which is also in its elaborately made video, confirms this.

“We are the generation of the ethnic violations, [the generation] of the total failure of coexistence and of the forced mixing of the races,” the video states.

Maintaining a fascist aesthetic in its symbolism, the group’s logo also shows the Greek letter lambda on a yellow background, like one from the 300 Spartan soldiers who wanted to stop the Persians at Thermopylae in the Hollywood film “300.”

The lambda symbol appears again and again on the homepage, the Facebook page and in the web videos.

The movement is trying “to anchor [itself] on the Internet,” Häusler explained.

A text on its site refers to the “ghetto subculture of migrant youth that is affected by violence, hate, primitivity, criminality and Islam.”

The aim of all this is to “spread racism more effectively,” subliminally, said Häusler.

Germany has between 3.8 and 4.3 million Muslims, making up some 5 percent of the total 82 million population, according to government-commissioned studies.

Germans have grown hostile to the Muslim presence recently, with a heated debate on the Muslim immigration into the country.

A recent poll by the Munster University found that Germans view Muslims more negatively than their European neighbors.

In August 2011, Germany’s daily Der Spiegel had warned that the country is becoming intolerant towards its Muslim minority.

According to a 2010 nationwide poll by the research institute Infratest-dimap, more than one third of the respondents would prefer “a Germany without Islam.”

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    • Leftwing_Muslim_Alliance

      Might it not be better to visit your local mosque ? Then you can meet real muslims and talk to real people rather than talking heads of unknown provinance on the net Sir David

    • Leftwing_Muslim_Alliance

      Bill Why dont you ask a muslim about Islam ? Rather than getting your information from the rightwing gutter Sir David

    • Géji

      The latest Euro-regimes-sanction ban saga, oppressive/persecutive targeting Muslim difference in Europe coming from the stuck-in-medieval but yet so-called “Enlighten/never-again” continent was concerning the ban of a tiny vocal Muslims that were not holding allegiance to Eurocentrism, while the resurrected Eurocentric fascists is running wild again ….. Untouched!

    • bill reitzes

      I recently read on Family Security Matters that the Germans are overrun with Turkish Muslims, who are vastly under employed and living off the dole. Islam, is Germanys second largest religion representing about 6% of the total population. From what I read, only 20% are employed while 80% live off of welfare. If this is true, these are staggering numbers and could lead to a push back by the host country Germany.

    • Talking_fish_head

      im not sure exacty why that is, but it maybe due to economical reasons, people are upset about how the economy was handeled and they need a scapegoat to place the blame on (in this case Muslims), and that far-right politicians have been gaining traction throughout europe since at least 2005 (after the Madrid, and London Bombing), scaring the population in believing that “Evil brown barbarians are flooding our white secular Utopia”

    • Talking_fish_head

      lets hope not

    • Talking_fish_head

      “”Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it””

      George Santayana

  • mindy1

    Is history about to repeat itself?? hope not

Ahavath Torah Congregation and Great Neck Synagogue Give Platform to Hate Group Leaders

By on March 20, 2013 in Loon Rabbis

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by Emperor

It is sad and dangerous when a religious institution actively allows itself to be used as a platform for hate-mongers who have inspired terrorists and incite hatred and prejudice against Muslims.

Ahavath Torah Synagogue, led by the Betraying Rabbi Jon Hausman has a long history of allowing itself to be used in such a way, for instance making the pulpit available to the likes of Geert “no religious freedom for Muslims” Wilders and Wafa “nuke ’em” Sultan.

Both Ahavath Torah Synagogue and Great Neck Synagogue should be ashamed of themselves; real embarrassments to Judaism.

Lars Hedegaard, Robert Spencer, Andrew Bostom, Tiffany Gabbay to speak on panel discussion regarding “Sharia’s Assault on Free Speech.”

Lars Hedegaard Robert Spencer Tiffany Gabbay Dr. Andrew Bostom Moderated by Michael Graham*

Each of these individuals possess deep knowledge forged by years of involvement. No doubt this will prove to be an enlightening evening.

*This event is co-sponsored by Act for America and Michael Graham’s “New England Talk Network”.

When: Wednesday March 20, 2013 Time: 7:00PM Address: Ahavath Torah Congregation, 1179 Central Street, Stoughton, MA Price: $15 per person in advance, $20/$25 at the door, $10 for students with valid student ID.

Pamela “the looniest blogger ever” Geller will be speaking to Great Neck Synagogue:

On Sunday Morning, April 14, at 10:00am, the Great Neck Synagogue Men’s Club presents Pamela Geller, Founder of the influential “Atlas Shrugs” blog and Executive Director of the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI) and Stop Islamization of America (SIOA).

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Geller will be introduced by Greg Buckley, whose son, Lance Corporal Greg Buckley, Jr., was one of three Marines killed in a “Green on Blue” insider attack on his military base in the Helmand province, Afghanistan on Aug 10.

Related: –ACT! For America is Better Known as Hate! For America

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    • Stephen G. Parker

      JSB – You’re quite correct, of course, that context makes a huge difference. With respect to Pam Geller’s statements, context is not at all difficult to determine. With respect to Amie, though, it’s an entirely different matter. I have no context in which to place Amie. Perhaps you do? It seems to me that you’re just making a ‘knee-jerk’ assumption regarding Amie’s 2 simple statements. Because you know very well that there are indeed people who believe that all Zionist Jews (and in reality all Jews) are inherently evil and ‘Islamophobes’, you have assumed that Amie’s statements (without any context with which to relate them) indicate that she is among those people.

      As to whether or not you’re really correct, I guess we’ll just have to leave it up to Amie to determine. If she wishes to clarify her views, that’s fine. So if she says something like: “Well of course all Zionist Jews are vicious ‘Islamophobes. Everybody knows that!” – well, we’ll know you’re correct in your assumptions. Or if you can produce other statements by Amie (from a blog, or former comments on Loonwatch, etc.), you will also prove your assumption correct.

      Until such time, though, I will prefer to give her the benefit of the doubt and presume her ‘innocent’. She just made two statements that are clearly true with regard to Pam Geller and the synagogues in question, without making further generalizations about “all Jews” or “all Zionist Jews”.

    • Just_Stopping_By

      Pamela Geller puts up subway and bus ads with provocative statements from individual Muslims or statements taken out of context from the Qur’an. Pamela Geller also uses the word “jihad” in those ads without defining it. So, Pamela Geller has said nothing explicitly false in those particular ads, but context does matter.

      If Geller were just condemning individuals without trying to tie their statements to a religion, it wouldn’t be a big deal. But, her implication is that Islam is problematic, and that is something I object to strongly, even if each individual quote Geller provides is technically accurate as a quotation. Same thing here.

      As an aside, while we all know who Geller and her ilk are and the hatred they spew, I have no idea how well known she is in general. If the synagogues did not know that those speakers had a bigoted agenda, they should apologize and disinvite those speakers. If they did know, that is truly awful, and they should apologize even more profusely.

    • Stephen G. Parker

      Thank you for the reply, “Just_Stopping_By”. However, I still think that you’re being too quick to jump on Amie for supposedly exposing herself as someone who is an “Anti-Jewish” anti-Zionist.

      Amie made two statements, both of which are clearly true. (1) Pam Geller is a Zionist Jewess. Surely one can’t get upset because she pointed out the obvious. (2) Amie suggested that perhaps the synagogues shared Pam’s views. I can’t see here any suggestion that the synagogues must share Pam’s viewpoints simply because they’re Jewish. What seems clear to me is that because the Jews of one of the synagogues has invited Zionist Jewess Pam to speak (and it’s unlikely that they’re unfamiliar with Pam and what she espouses); and another synagogue has invited 3 other anti-Muslims who share Pam’s viewpoints to a large degree; then isn’t it pretty clear that those synagogues share Pam’s anti-Muslim viewpoints?

      It’s not as if Amie had said that Pam is Jewish and Zionist, therefore all other Jewish Zionists must agree with her. But when a Jewish synagogue deliberately invites her to speak there, and another deliberately invites 3 other ‘Islamophobes’, then it seems like a very justified conclusion that those Jewish synagogues might perhaps have ‘Islamophobic’ viewpoints. There’s just no reason to jump to the conclusion that Amie is demonstrating anti-Jewishness by her statement.

    • Just_Stopping_By

      SGP:

      I know you are being tongue in cheek, because we all know that many (indeed, presumably most) Jews are Zionists. And I give you credit for recognizing that the Neturei Karta are clearly anti-Zionist Jews. So, at least you are not arguing from a position of ignorance.

      So, why am I “overly sensitive”? It’s largely the implication that being Jewish or Zionist, and presumably especially both together, makes one anti-Muslim. There is a difference, for example between “Barack Obama attended Jeremiah Wright’s church and so may share his views” and “Barack Obama is black and attended Jeremiah Wright’s mostly black church, so Obama may share Wright’s views.” I view the first statement as fair game for debate, but the second as offensive.

      If one wants to condemn the synagogues for hosting those speakers, then get in line and join me, because I do so. But I would condemn any organization hosting those speakers without the need to bring up the organization’s religious background, with the implicit suggestion that that religion is to blame.

      As you note, there are Jews who are not anti-Muslim, and, in fact, the Gallup survey suggests that once you match Americans on various characteristics, Jews are actually less likely to be anti-Muslim, or at least less likely to appear to be so to Gallup. And since most American Jews are Zionists, one can pretty much say, based on the Gallup survey, that Zionist Jews in the U.S. are actually less likely to express anti-Muslim views than other Americans (using the same types of matching or controls that Gallup used). It’s a complicated issue dealing with similarity in religious views (tawhid), practices (such as the concepts of dietary restrictions or religious courts), history (the Golden Age of Judaism in Muslim Spain), being a religious minority in the U.S., and even Middle East politics (more complicated, but most Zionists do want Israel to have good relations with Muslim-majority countries, though they may not be willing to support the types of actions that would make that more likely).

      There are certainly prominent Islamophobes in the Jewish community, but there are prominent Islamophiles as well, and simple claimed or implied associations between bigotry and adherents of any religion are more for the types of blogs LoonWatch opposes than for us.

  • Stephen G. Parker

    My goodness, you sure are overly sensitive about using the word “Jew” (or “Jewess”) together with the word Zionist!

Rev. Deacon Robert Spencer Thinks Garibaldi is Nathan Lean

By on March 16, 2013 in Feature, Loon Pastors, Loon Sites

Spencer resembles someone here.

by Garibaldi

Hate group leader, Far-right Catholic fanatic and anti-Muslim Crusader/terrorist-inspirer, Rev. Deacon Robert Spencer of Our Lady of the Cedars Church, a full-time paid shill for racist David Horowitz has been pretty sore that I exposed the fact he is an ordained deacon. The only person that he should be upset at however is himself, he’s the one who irresponsibly left an internet trail that could easily be found by anyone with basic google searching abilities.

It is understandable why Rev. Deacon Spencer, who claims to be an objective “reporter” on so-called “Islamic violence” was so upset, any remaining veneer of “objectivity” and feigned concern for “freedom” was permanently abolished; once again Robert Spencer’s sectarianism was exposed through his own words and deeds.

This point is buttressed in a post yesterday by Rev. Deacon Spencer in FrontPageMagRag, it is the first post by Rev. Spencer on new Pope Francis I. What does the good Deacon have to say? Well, he slams the Second Vatican council’s positive statements regarding Islam as reflecting “the outlook of a vanished age,” equal in its irrelevance as statements by the likes of Pope Benedict XIV of the 18th century and Pope Callixtus III of the 15th century. (By the way, Rev. Spencer is opposed to Vatican II for more reasons than just statements regarding Islam).

Bizarrely, Spencer still cites the two Popes quite approvingly, the hostility they had towards Islam and Muslims is strikingly evident in two quotes Spencer reproduces,

…Pope Benedict XIV, in 1754, reaffirmed an earlier prohibition on Albanian Catholics giving their children “Turkish or Mohammedan names” in baptism by pointing out that not even Protestants or Orthodox were stooping so low: “None of the schismatics and heretics has been rash enough to take a Mohammedan name, and unless your justice abounds more than theirs, you shall not enter the kingdom of God.” Pope Callixtus III, in a somewhat similar spirit, in 1455 vowed to “exalt the true Faith, and to extirpate the diabolical sect of the reprobate and faithless Mahomet in the East.”

Spencer absurdly believes the Vatican II reforms are in parity with quotes about “extirpating” Islam. Look up “Extirpate” in the dictionary, it still means “to root out and destroy completely.”

It appears Rev. Deacon Robert Spencer is setting himself up for a lifetime of disappointment. Pope Francis I will not be the kind of fanatical anti-Islam/Muslims-rolling-back-Vatican-II-type-pope that Spencer wants him to be. After all, the new pope is named after St. Francis of Assisi whose two chief concerns were to convert people to Christianity and to help the poor.

In fact, St. Francis came to oppose the Crusades (read: The Saint and the Sultan by Paul Moses) which Rev. Deacon Robert Spencer falls all over himself to defend, as he loves to remind us of the Crusader slogan, “God wills it!“

The story goes that St. Francis’ parents wanted him to go out on the Crusade so that he could be knighted.

He later set out for the Crusades in Northern Africa, but while on his way to join up with his batallion he heard a voice that asked him where he was going.

Francis responded “to the Crusades” and the voice asked him “why he served the squire instead of the Master.” The voice told him to return to Assisi where he would be told what to do. Later, after much prayer and penance, Francis was praying at a small chapel outside of Assisi, San Damiano and he thought he heard a voice that came from the crucifix. The voice said, “Francis, go repair my Church, can’t you see that it’s falling into ruins.”

The new Pope Francis I will focus on repairing the Catholic Church which is struggling in many ways and will not focus on breeding Crusader-esque civilizational conflict.

Rev. Deacon Spencer thinks I am Aslan Media editor Nathan Lean, I reveal my true identity

Rev. Deacon Robert Spencer’s irrelevance both to Catholicism and scholarship on Islam is only matched by his delusional indulgence in conspiracy theory. Unable and unwilling to respond to numerous Loonwatch rebuttals of his faulty pseudo-scholarship and “police blotter reporting,” and a very long outstanding fear to debate Danios has now given way to Spencer claiming to have uncovered my identity–unbeknownst to me I am actually supposed to be Aslan Media editor Nathan Lean!

What is Rev. Spencer’s smoking gun? A cross-post from the hate site Logan’s Warning claiming “evidence” that I, Garibaldi, am Nathan Lean. Recall the only time we’ve mentioned Logan’s Warning, a post titled, Amusing Islamophobia Blog Wars: Logan’s Warning vs. Brigitte Gabriel, in which Christopher Logan attacked Brigitte Gabriel for even hinting that there might be such a thing as a “moderate Muslim.” The heresy! Logan’s website is replete with an abundance of commenters who call for Crusading violence against Muslims and racism against Arabs, as was shown in screenshots in my post.

So it’s no surprise that Spencer would cross-post from Logan’s Warning, as we know “birds of a feather flock together.” It is also unsurprising that Spencer, with a track record for weak scholarship would be so gullibly convinced by Christopher Logan’s “evidence.”

Logan’s “evidence”:

Evidence 1: Recently in writing about Mr. Spencer, Garibaldi wrote this in a comment on his own article about Spencer’s private life: 

GaribaldiOfLoonwatch Mod Leftwing_Muslim_Alliance • 13 days ago

He is not celibate, he’s married. In the course of digging on the internet, I also learned the name of his wife and children, though that isn’t really germane to the discussion so I won’t advertise it.

Who else has dug on the Internet and found the names of Mr. Spencer’s wife and children? Nathan Lean. Spencer has written of Lean: Nigeria Jihadists threaten country’s top spies by publishing their home addresses and names of family 

Four months after that, he sent Mr. Spencer an email calling him a “dumb fuck” and adding “But, having a look at this, I kind of pity you,” which was followed by a link containing a photo of a woman in the same city. The woman has the same surname Spencer; apparently Lean thought she was his wife.

Spencer apparently thinks this is evidence. Anyone who has access to google can find out the names of Rev. Deacon Spencer’s family, it’s all over the internet. I thought Spencer was supposed to be in mortal fear for his life? If so he’s doing a poor job of covering up the identities of his family and place of residence. The fact is we have had people who’ve wanted to share information regarding his personal life and whereabouts since 2010.

One commenter on Spencerwatch named “Abdullah” wrote on the site in 2010 saying:

Abdullah says:

I have all the information on Spencer, his address, real date of birth, and information on his family. I want nothing more than to share it, please e-mail me.

We responded to Abdullah by letting him know that we were not interested in Spencer’s personal information:

admin says:

Abdullah,

That will be unnecessary. We have no interest in Spencer’s private life. We are only interested in exposing the shallow, deceptive, and bigoted nature of his anti-Muslim work.

– SW Admin

My comment is consistent with our long-held position that our only interest is rebutting and exposing Rev. Deacon Robert Spencer’s faulty arguments, lies, hate, deception and distortions, we can care less about Spencer’s family.

Evidence 2:
Garibaldi wrote of Mr. Spencer in a comment:

But the shaggy walrus beard and so forth indicates its him.

Reza Aslan said to Mr. Spencer: The Incredilbe Reza Aslan automated insult generator

I told you. I’m into women not walruses.

Nathan Lean works for Aslan.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I freely admit here and now that I actually picked up the walrus reference from my interview with Reza Aslan, it still gives me a chuckle!

Evidence 3: Garibaldi interviewed Aslan for Loonwatch. Most of the interview was made up of nasty ad hominem attacks on Mr. Spencer: https://www.loonwatch.com/2011/11/exclusive-loonwatch-interview-with-reza-aslan/

I’ve also interviewed Haroon Moghul. Does that mean I’am Haroon Moghul as well? And why am I Nathan Lean and not Reza Aslan? Or maybe I am all three-in-one, like a super stealth Islamist-Leftist trinity?

Evidence 4: Jonathan Schanzer wrote a scathing review of Lean’s book for the Wall Street Journal. Loonwatch published a petulant and defensive response piece viciously attacking Schanzer. Who wrote it? Garibaldi. https://www.loonwatch.com/2013/01/bush-era-neo-con-schmuck-jonathan-schanzer-shills-for-nasty-islamophobia-movement/

Yes, Schanzer did get the vicious Garibaldi treatment, but that was more so because he’s a Bush era, warmongering neo-Con schmuck who wrote an Islamophobia-denial piece in the mainstream Wall Street Journal that sought to exonerate war criminals like his former boss George W. Bush and Islamophobe pals such as Daniel Pipes and the useful idiot Zuhdi Jasser. I fail to see how this can be described as evidence and not more appropriately as “worthless conjecture 4.”

Evidence 5: Nathan Lean has frequently called for opponents of jihad terror to be denied free speech rights:

Editor-in-Chief of moderate Aslan media endorses cyber terrorism

Nathan Lean is a Thug

Garibaldi wrote a piece at Loonwatch celebrating the vandalism of AFDI’s anti-jihad ads: https://www.loonwatch.com/2012/09/mona-el-tahawy-and-spray-painting-pamela-gellers-hate-ads/

Reza Aslan also called for that vandalism: Reza Aslan Calls for fascist vandalism of AFDI pro-freedom ads 

Loonwatch is actually consistent in its opposition to hacking, we ourselves have been victim to vile hatemongering “counterjihad” hackers. As for my article it actually did not celebrate Mona Eltahawy’s protest of the racist AFDI/SIOA hate ads. In fact I was critical of her, writing,

Mona’s method of protest was therefore ineffective, aesthetically unappealing and not the best expression of street art. It is unclear if Mona was going to spraypaint a message before her confrontation with Hall, but using a hot pink spraypaint can to completely erase or cover the hate ad, which is what she was doing, is a bad way to register such a protest. It is poorly planned, poorly executed and at the end of the day strays from the goal of highlighting the most important aspect of such a protest: the message.

I happily admit however that I am not really moved to condemn any protest against the racist AFDI/SIOA hate ads. Just as I wouldn’t condemn protests against ads describing Native Americans as “savages,” or Blacks as “N—–s.”

Interestingly, this most recent foray into conspiracy theory by Rev. Deacon Spencer wasn’t even convincing to Spencer’s most ardent fans. Kinana of Khaybar, in what could be the most understated comment on JihadWatch ever wrote,

This is entertaining, but to me does not add up to sufficient evidence that Nathan Lean is Garibaldi.

One also has to wonder if Logan and Spencer even thought about asking themselves why Nathan Lean, who has been speaking, writing and publishing publicly for quite some time would decide he needed to be anonymous? He is already calling out Spencer, Geller and other Islamophobes under his own name.

As for my real identity…

I am actually….

<drum roll>….

the second love child of Malcolm X and Stanley Ann Dunham, and my name is Barack Hasan Shabazz!

There you go, the secret is finally out! Thanks a lot Spencer!

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    • Tanveer Khan

      I am The Penguin

    • Tanveer Khan

      Where is The Great One?

    • Mjasghar786

      But you’d have thought the BBC would have done their research before they treated him as an expert. Isn’t the BBC supposed to have higher standards than that?

    • mjasghar786

      Weirdly he didn’t say any of the derogatory stuff about the prophet that he has written – proof that he just says what people who pay him want to. And it will make him look like an expert to have that on his résumé As for the BBC I think they were aiming this at the us market so asked someone for an American writer on the prophet. Makes me wonder who recommended bob Even more ironic a month or so after it was broadcast bob published that book saying the prophet didn’t exist – my guess is that was for another bunch of paymasters

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Melbourne Mosque Get Go Ahead From Local Council

By on March 13, 2013 in Anti-Loons, Loon Pastors

Doveton No Mosque sign

A happy end to an anti-Mosque campaign in Doveton’s industrial area.

Melbourne mosque get go ahead from local council

Supporters of a mosque in Doveton’s industrial area have urged anti-Islamic cleric Pastor Danny Nalliah and his followers in the Catch the Fire Ministries to learn to live with it.

Outside Casey Council chambers on Tuesday night, supporters were quietly jubilant after Casey councillors ticked off the mosque in accordance with a recommendation from their planners. But Mr Nalliah, who has led the campaign against the mosque, described the decision as “a sad day for Australia” and said his group would appeal to the Supreme or Victorian Court to overturn it.

A spokeswoman for the applicants, Sherene Hassan, urged Mr Nalliah and his followers to follow Jesus’ precept and “love thy neighbour”. “That’s what we plan to do,” she said. “But we haven’t felt much love from this group.” The mosque is being built next to Catch the Fire’s new headquarters and church, and Ms Hassan said they would welcome visitors from the neighbouring church.

Mr Nalliah was in the public gallery, along with about 60 supporters, who were watched closely by four police and four security officers. The atmosphere was tense but there was not the disruption from the gallery of a previous meeting.

Councillors voted nine to one to approve the mosque despite 33 objections and 14 petitions containing more than 2000 signatures opposing it. They accepted the recommendations of the planning department, whose report stated that “fears of the unknown” were not valid grounds for rejecting the mosque.

Objectors cited traffic concerns, lack of public transport, loss of amenity for neighbours, the height of the mosque, noise concerns and concerns that Islam “teaches hate”.

In their report, the planners cited an earlier ruling by the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal in relation to a Romanian Orthodox Church in Narre Warren North which made it clear “fears of the unknown” were not appropriate grounds for refusing a permit. “It follows that religious or cultural differences (or fears) are not within the realm of the planning scheme assessment.”

They stated the application was consistent with state and local planning policies and there were two approved places of worship near the proposed site, 27-31 Green Street, including the new headquarters of Catch the Fire Ministries next door.

The sole councillor to oppose the mosque, Rosalie Crestani, asked repeated questions of the planning department but did not raise the anti-Islamic objections she had raised in previous meetings.

Casey Weekly, 12 March 2013

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    • mindy1

      Good on them-do the haters really think they are following the plan of god?

    • Tanveer Khan

      Yeah i agree. To my knowledge only very few have accepted they cant change the results now matter what they do.

    • I’m glad as well. I have a feeling through that the people who were determined to stop this, won’t give up until its finished being built and the first worshipers arrive. Even than they may still try to shut it down somehow, although, I’m not sure what they’ll be able to do legally other than just complain.

    • Tanveer Khan

      I am really happy that despite the opposition the councillors were good enough to give it the go ahead. It makes me so happy i think im gonna cry….

What if they were Muslim? Burundi: Catholic sect ‘clashes with police kill six’

By on March 12, 2013 in Loon Pastors, Loon Violence

Zebiya

There are issues of state interference in this Catholic sect’s activities but the resort to violence by sect members is pretty appalling.

What if they were Muslim? Just imagine how such an incident would be reported. (h/t: Sir David)

Burundi: Catholic sect ‘clashes with police kill six’

(BBC)

The violence broke out after police tried to block followers of 30-year-old Zebiya Ngendakumana from praying in Kayanza region, the official added.

Ms Ngendakumana says she sees visions of the Virgin Mary on the 12th day of each month.

The authorities are worried her sect could threaten public order.

The sect, formed more than a year ago, has developed a following across the country and in neighbouring Democratic Republic of Congo.

Kayanza Governor Athanase Mbonabuca said hundreds of sect members, some “armed with clubs and stones”, resisted police attempts to prevent them from meeting on a hilltop on Tuesday, the day Zebiya Ngendakumana said she would see her visions, AFP news agency reports.

‘Sanctuary destroyed’

“There were violent clashes. At least six people are dead and 35 wounded,” he is quoted as saying.

All the dead are believed to be followers of Ms Ngendakumana, with four policemen seriously wounded, AFP reports.

The sect has had a tense relationship with Burundi’s government since its formation, says Florentine Kwizera of the BBC’s Great Lakes Service.

Last year, police destroyed a sanctuary of the sect in Kayanza – its stronghold – and its followers retaliated by breaking up a Sunday service at a local Catholic church, she says.

Most Burundians are Catholic and the official church has distanced itself from the sect.

The sect has also urged its followers to boycott the government’s community service programme.

It is not clear why it is opposed to the programme, which sees residents of towns and cities engage in activities such as cleaning streets and refurbishing schools every Saturday.

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    • GaribaldiOfLoonwatch

      I am a bit disturbed by the shirt she has of a White Mary and baby Jesus.

    • GaribaldiOfLoonwatch

      The title is the same as the BBC article, so no we are not implying that it was others who were killed.

    • Leftwing_Muslim_Alliance

      Too busy watching for the white smoke in Rome I suspect Sir David

    • Al

      Where are the moderate Catholics denouncing this?

    • mindy1

      My 2 cents-as long as they are not hurting anyone, leave them be.

Palestinian assailed by Israeli women, stripped of hijab

By on March 1, 2013 in Loon Violence

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Palestinian assailed by Israeli women, stripped of hijab

(Al-Akhbar English)

A Palestinian woman waiting at a light rail station in Jerusalem on Monday was attacked and stripped of her headscarf by religious Jewish women, Israeli newspaper Ma’ariv reported Tuesday.

According to bystanders, a young Jewish woman punched the Palestinian suddenly as she was passing by the station. A friend of the assailant began aiding her in beating the Palestinian, pushing her against the wall, and ultimately ripping off her headscarf.

The Palestinian was accompanied by an old man who tried to push the attackers away to no avail.

https://twitter.com/Karim_AboHatab/statuses/306533291123695616

The event occurred at about three o’clock in the afternoon. It is unclear whether the incident involved only the two assailants mentioned in witness accounts, or a larger group shown in the photo.

“There were about 100 Orthodox and yeshiva students who disembarked the tramway and spotted an Arab woman accompanied by an older man,” a witness, who photographed the event, told Ma’ariv.

“It developed into arguing and yelling, and I don’t know what the content was that everyone jumped on her.”

According to the witness, an activist named Dorit Jordan Dotan, a municipality security officer passively watched the event and seemed to be smiling. Many residents also stood by.

“The entire time, the guard stood and smiled and did not even try to break up the fight,” a witness said.

Dotan confirmed that the incident took place at the station where a group of young people had just arrived from the train, but seemed to downplay the event by suggesting the attackers were intoxicated.

“Young people drink a lot of wine for Purim. Screams were heard everywhere. A woman tried to fight [the Jewish students] but they yelled at her not to dare touch the Jews and continued to beat [the Arab woman],” Dotan said.

Following publication in Ma’ariv, police launched an investigation into the case.

“It’s a shame that the Arab whore didn’t die”

On the day the report was published, Israeli police officer Ariel Shapiro re-posted the article on his Facebook page and issued a chilling endorsement: “Very good,” wrote Shpiro “It’s a shame that the Arab whore didn’t die.”

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The message was publicized by Palestinian Member of Knesset Ahmad Tibi.

Israeli army and police officers have come under fire in recent weeks for showcasing dehumanizing images of and slogans about Palestinians. The most famous of these is an Instagram photo of Mor Ostrovski, 20, showing the crosshairs of a rifle being aimed at the head of a Palestinian boy.

(Al-Akhbar)

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    • Blackops

      Don’t you actually have better insults than the typical libturd/muzzie idiots always seem to muster up from their walnut sized brains ? Also…we will nuke the fuck outta you.

    • Hasan karim

      Let us make something clear, we muslims have nothing against the jewish. The quran calls you the people of the book. We are against the opressors, racists and the ones who use and abuse the jewish faith for their political agenda, their name is ZIONIST movement. Jewish faith has nothing to do with what is happening in Israel and Palestina.

    • Seeker

      Not a good idea to pray for the punishment of hereafter for another person.

  • Seeker

    Ok, everybody else has already got on your case for this but I’ll add in anyway. I wish you wouldn’t. Come away from the guilt-by-association because no soul should bear the burdens of another’s sins.

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