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Pathetic “World Leaders”: Photo-Op By Some of the Greatest Violators of “Free Speech”

Look at this pathetic contrast:

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This was just an opportunity for many of these politicians to score some points in the media and claim that they are at the forefront of “freedom” and the so-called existential battle for “free speech.”

Jeremy Scahill was on DemocracyNow! where he deconstructed this cheap “circus of hypocrisy“:

JEREMY SCAHILL: Yeah, well, I mean, first of all, you know, what we saw yesterday on display, on the one hand, was very heartening, to see so many people come into the streets. And, you know, one of the core issues of press freedom, if this is a moment where the whole world is saying we have to have a free press, and that no matter how controversial or hateful some of the speech is or may be interpreted in some communities, that we judge a free press by how we treat the journalists or the stories that we don’t like or that we’re offended by.

But on the other hand, this is sort of a circus of hypocrisy when it comes to all of those world leaders who were marching at the front of it. I mean, every single one of those heads of state or representatives of governments there have waged their own wars against journalists. You know, David Cameron ordered The Guardian to smash with a hammer the hard drives that stored the files of NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden. Blasphemy is considered a crime in Ireland. You had multiple African and Arab leaders whose own countries right now have scores of journalists in prison. Benjamin Netanyahu’s government in Israel has targeted for killing numerous journalists who have reported on the Palestinian side, have kidnapped, abducted, jailed journalists. You know, there’s this controversy right now: Why didn’t President Obama go, or why didn’t Joe Biden go? You know, Eric Holder was there already and was representing the United States.

I think that we should remember—and I was saying this on Twitter over the weekend—that Yemen should have sent the Yemeni journalist Abdulelah Haider Shaye as their representative. He, of course, was in prison for years on the direct orders of President Obama for having reported on secret U.S. strikes in Yemen that killed scores of civilians. Or Sudan should have sent Sami al-Hajj, the Al Jazeera cameraman who was held for six years without charge in Guantánamo and repeatedly interrogated by U.S. operatives who were intent on proving that Al Jazeera had some sort of a link to al-Qaeda. So, you know, while there is much to take heart in, in terms of this huge outpouring of support for freedom of the press, hypocrisy was on full display in the streets of Paris when it came to the world leaders.

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  • Ricardo Hotatio

    Let me quote my self: I became a Christian when I was 30 years old, it was a combination of a miracle a dream and the reality of the changing power of God in my life which I received from Him as a respons to my faith in the form of receiving His Spirit in my life, which gives me the victory over the powers of sin and death in life, this proces is called redemption. So to me the reality of a changed life is a personal witness of His grace in my life. Freedom, Joy and peace with God, that is what the Gospel is all about. His Grace is sufficient for me.

    I said this, because the promises of God are a reality in my life, this means that God has set me free from the power of sin, there is not any logic in attributing this to the enemy of God!

    In my belief there is no discrapancy between what I know, what I experience and I do have the inner witness of Gods Spirit in my life which guides me in all truth. It is the Spirit of God that establishes truth and which at the same time gives me the discernment to recognise deception. Although the establisment of the scriptures was a bit of a slow proces, the whole proces was being overlooked by the Spirit of God (see again Psalm 82:6)

    The question about the authenticity of the Quran is not relevant, since it has not a divine source of inspiration anyway.

    Christians know how the enemy works, through disputing the word of God. But if you have the Spirit of Christ and know His truth, nothing can separate you from the love of God.

    1John 3:8 He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work.

  • Again you invoke a scripture we do not consider authoritative as an authority.
    ?
    As for “proof,” the oldest manuscript we have, the Rylands fragment, dates from ninety years after Jesus (as) ascended.
    Ninety years. In an environment with no internet, no telephones, and excruciatingly slow travel.

    JFK was assassinated only fifty-two years ago, and despite video and photographic evidence, hundreds of witnesses, and decades of work, people STILL cannot agree on what took place in Dallas that morning.
    Consider that, combined with:
    1) the fact that there are, literally, thousands of orthographic differences between surviving manuscripts of Biblical books,

    2) the fact that the Christian canon was not established until CENTURIES after the ascension of Jesus (as)
    3) the fact that numerous extant manuscripts exist which completely contradict the testimony of the “orthodox” canonical books
    4) the fact that such manuscripts were actively sought out and destroyed by the forces of Christian “orthodoxy”

    I would say yes, there is plenty of room for error, and plenty of possibility that Pauline Christianity is in fact a heresy of what Jesus (as) actually taught.
    Is it “proof?” No, it’s evidence, evidence which points to the truth revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (saw) that Christian scripture had been tampered with and did not accurately reflect the teachings of the prophets (‘alayhis salaam to them all) or their doings.
    It’s revelation, one which we believe and you do not.
    That is what is called an “impasse.” You invoke books we do not consider as authoritative for your doctrine, we invoke books you do not consider authoritative for ours.

    The end.

  • Thank you for proving my point that even overtly violent passages of scripture ought to be read in context.
    Exactly like Qur’anic verses and hadiths are to be read: IN CONTEXT.

    It applies to Christian writing but you refuse to use the same nuance when reading Muslim writings? Why would that be?

    I see you continue to refuse to cite a single verse in support of your claims concerning what we believe (!).

    “Concerning opposing Jihad, I don’t see sincere condemnation of these acts,”

    You have thus far shown an inability to distinguish between “jihad,” which is a religious obligation, and acts of terrorism, which are forbidden.
    Please stop misusing the term “jihad,” it makes you look foolish especially when you have had the meaning explained to you several times over.

    Let me help you some more:
    “Jihad” means “struggle.” For us to struggle in the way of God (swt) is an obligation.
    Military jihad may only be engaged in against military targets occupying your homeland and oppressing you. It can also only be undertaken under the aegis of the ruler of your homeland. Specific rules apply, e.g., non-combatants may not be killed in military jihad.
    The other types of “jihad” are spiritual in nature: jihad an-nafs, struggle against the self (the “ego”); jihad al-hawa, jihad against desires; jihad al-shaytan, jihad against Satan; jihad al-dunya, jihad against the material world.
    Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya referred to these as the “most obligatory” of jihads (“afrad al-jihad”).

    So no, there is not condemnation of “jihad” per se, that would be foolish.

    “Raymond Ibrahim” is actually another notorious liar, you are correct.
    There is a reason why Daniel Pipes is chums with him. A truthful person would only undermine Mr. Pipes’s ideological stance, since his career is based on lies.

    Speaking of lies and ignorance, if you are are so besotted that you are unable to see the vast amount of condemnation of terrorist acts by the majority, there is probably no help for you. I’ll try anyway.
    Here you go:

    http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-… iraqs-christian-brothers-120656878.html

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-282

    http://www.islam21c.com/politi… on-isis/

    http://www.icna.org/us-muslim-… isis/

    http://www.reuters.com/article

    http://www.beliefnet.com/colum

    http://www.islam21c.com/politi

    This last one
    (above)
    conveys Muslim frustration with ISIS quite well. The Syrian scholars
    state that they are surprised they even have to issue a fatwa on the
    matter since the real Muslim position should be clear to all; yet ISIS
    and the media have distorted public discourse to the extent that the
    scholars have to issue this fatwa to make it explicit.

    http://mg.co.za/article/2014-0

    http://myjihad.org/myjihad-inc

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/m

    http://www.dnaindia.com/india/

    http://www.bizpacreview.com/20

    http://www.independent.co.uk/n

    http://www.theislamicmonthly.c

    http://www.independent.co.uk/n

    http://www.isna.net/isna-conde

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-P

    And THAT is just a small sample of Muslims speaking out against ISIS, specifically.
    I can multiply examples like these all day.

    All.
    Day.

    These are stories that no news outlet promotes as front-page stuff or gives interviews over; least of all yellow outfits like “FrontPageMag” or WND.

    If, after perusing these links, you still find yourself unable to use Google to discover more examples, then your eyes are blinded and your heart hardened (John 12:40), and there is quite possibly nothing anypony can do except for God (swt) Himself.

  • “Large scale?”
    One only need take two percent (2.0%) of the Muslim population–the estimated percentage of sociopaths in a given group–to have FAR more terrorist attacks than what we currently see.
    There are 1,570,000,000 of us (give or take a few).
    Let’s reduce it by over a third–say there are only 1,000,000,000 of us. Two percent gives us 20,000,000. That’s 20,000,000 sociopaths. 20,000,000. Enough to supply ISIS, Boko Haram, and every terrorist act in the world.
    Three fighters for every one Israeli (because everypony knows that all Muslims, even our little Muslim babies and our cats, want to nuke Israel).
    Why is Israel still standing? Why are there any cafes, barber shops, airplanes and hotels left in the world?
    It’s because
    A) the percentage of Muslims who sympathize with or engage in terrorist acts is exceedingly small, and
    B) there are also millions of Muslims who put their lives on the line–and sometimes lose them–every day in order to fight terrorism.

    Our scholars–by the thousands–have condemned terrorist acts extensively and in no uncertain terms.

    Muslim organizations and public figures have done the same.

    Regarding the link you posted: The Middle East Forum [sic] is run by Daniel Pipes, a known liar. Don’t trust him as far as you can throw him. I’ve caught him in two blatant lies just in the handful of times I’ve read his dreck. An amazing truth:lie ratio.
    If you doubt where Pipes is coming from, just examine the contents of the “Comments” section. Case dismissed. Next.

    In the meanwhile, still waiting on that Qur’an verse–thanks for saving me the trouble of including the Deuteronomy verse about turning your disbelieving friends and family over to the authorities to be executed for their unbelief.
    In for a penny…

  • Part of Muslim belief is the idea that the scriptures of the People of the Book have been tampered with in order to promulgate doctrines which are incompatible with what Moses (as), Jesus (as), and all the other prophets (‘alayhis salaam to them all) actually taught.
    So for a Muslim to accept the authority of the Christian scriptures for the derivation of doctrine is, to say the least, problematic.

    Despite this, out of sheer curiosity show me in the synoptic Gospels–not the Epistles, Acts, or John–where Jesus (as) says directly, with no possibility of misinterpretation, “I am God.” [astaghfirullah]

    If it were that central to Jesus’ (as) message, he (as) should have come right out and said it somewhere.
    Yet he did not, which is why non-Trinitarian Christian sects exist; and they use the same scriptures you do.

    “Son of God,” since it is used throughout the Bible to refer to persons other than Jesus (as), does not count unless you want to make even more Gods [astaghfirullah].

    Speaking of coming right out and saying things, David (as) explicitly calls the military Judges “gods” and “children” of God (swt):
    “I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.” Psalms 82:6

    But as I said it is, for me, just a matter of curiosity since I don’t accept the authority of the Bible in its current form.

  • “judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful.”

    I agree with this statement wholeheartedly. That is why in Islam we are encouraged to be kind and merciful.
    That being said, neither James nor Acts are in the Muslim corpus of scripture.

  • Ricardo Hotatio

    There are two problems with your statement: To consider Christ a great prophet has no value if his message is being disregarded. Second, the divinity of Christ is at the core of the Gospel, to contradict His divinity should therefor be defined as blasphemy.

  • You seem to be unaware that we regard Jesus (as) as a great prophet.
    He (as) and Muhammad (saws) are not “mutually exclusive.”
    The only reason you would think so is that you are completely ignorant of what the Prophet (saw) taught.
    Regarding what the Prophet (saw) taught, we Muslims know infinitely better than you do.
    The beliefs of a religion are by definition the purview of the believers, not of outsiders.
    The less you try to tell us what we believe (!) and the more you educate yourself, the better off everypony will be.

  • ” i suspect when you hear of some horrible event you secretly pray its not a muslim who did it.”

    So…the unwillingness of Muslims the world over to associate heinous deeds with Islam is..secretly PROOF that Muslims condone heinous deeds in the name of Islam?
    Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
    Back!
    BACK into the intellectual pesthole from which you emerged!
    And do not come out until you learn logic.

  • So let me get this straight: every time some Christian Identity hatemonger speaks, he represents Christianity, right? Because, after all, they say they represent Christianity, so it must be true!

    The same goes for Westboro Baptist church. Fred Phelps SAID he was a Bible-believing Christian, so he speaks for all Christians!
    The KKK also speaks for all Christians. Oh, and when Martin Luther wrote antisemitic harangues he spoke for all of Christendom, right?
    Although the most shining example of Christian values has to be Anders Breivik. His actions epitomize what the Christian West stands for because, hey, he said so!

    I could do this all day…
    tend to the beam sticking out of your own eye.
    (Matthew 7:1-5, which you have clearly never read)

  • Evil?
    Find a verse in the Qur’an–just one–which commands the killing of all the men, women, children, and animals in an entire city–then burning the city down–if any of its inhabitants is engaged in missionary activity.
    Like this:
    Deuteronomy 13:12-16

    “12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the Lord your God is giving you to live in 13 that troublemakers
    have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock. 16 You are to gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the Lord your God. That town is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt.”

    One cannot find any verse in the entire Qur’an which justifies anything approaching this scale of violence.

    Not any.
    None.
    Zero.
    Evil is never permissible in Islam.

    If you want somepony to learn about Christianity, do you:

    1) refer them to a bunch of books written by supposed “former Christians” blathering about how evil it really is? There are plenty of them.

    2) direct them to the nearest atheist message board so they can learn the “Truth” about Christianity?

    3) teach them all the right quotes out of context?

    4) include what the Jews wrote about Jesus (as), since Christianity is considered by many to be a heresy of Judaism?

    Especially the parts about him being the bastard son [astaghfirullah] of a prostitute and a Roman soldier [astaghfirullah] who deceived people with black magic [astaghfirullah] and is currently in Hell boiling in a vat of shit [astaghfirullah!]?

    5) tell him all about how Christianity “stole” from Judaism?

    6) make sure he pays attention to all the details whenever a Christian commits a violent crime and ignores all other news?

    7) teach him all about the Lord’s Resistance Army but don’t even whisper the name of Boko Haram?

    Of course you wouldn’t do any of that. That’s not how one conducts legitimate research on anything.

    So why use the same shoddy criteria to judge Islam?

    “For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.” (Matthew 7:2)
    Wisdom.

    As it stands, you are only repeating falsehoods you have been fed, mistaking those falsehoods for “knowledge” about Islam. You have been lied to, repeatedly. People are deceiving you, using the methods I outlined above. Punish them, Ricardo. Make them pay for brazenly lying
    to your face again and again with no conscience. Don’t punish those who are being falsely maligned, i.e., us.

    Inshallah I will never stop saying that I was once as you are. I may very well have stayed that way for the rest of my earthly life if I hadn’t studied Persian for a government job and then realized that everything I thought I knew about Islam and the Middle East was utterly wrong. This, despite having had almost three decades of study in Comparative Religion under my belt.

    We know infinitely better than you do concerning what is or is not permitted in our religion.
    When, therefore, you pop up saying things about Islam which every Muslim knows to be false, you become a credulous simp in the eyes of the very people you are trying to engage with!

    And I’m pretty sure you don’t need that.

    Thanks, Peace.

  • I must have missed the place at the top of the page where it says “Loonwatch: For The Discussion of Christian Doctrine In The Light of Christian Scripture.”
    Seriously, if Muslims believed that the scripture you are quoting is in any way authoritative, we wouldn’t be Muslims now would we?
    We would be Christians.
    It’s great that you believe, really. But you seem to entertain odd notions about what we do or do not believe.
    Muslims also believe in sin; and the devil; and that God’s (swt) infinite mercy and grace alone can save us.
    And at least one can get out of Muslim Hell; while we believe that God (swt) is Just, we also believe that His Mercy outweighs His Justice.

  • Deception?
    Look in the mirror pal.

  • ” It would be nice if the Muslim nations had a gathering to examine this violent strain in their own religion.”
    Been there, done that. And we’re still doing that, and will continue to do so inshallah.
    Try using Google. If, after this salutary exercise, you still believe no Muslims are scrutinizing the actions of our (claimed) coreligionists, let somepony on this site know and you shall be given abundant examples.
    As far as “self-examination” on this site in particular, you seem to be confused. Specifically, you seem to be laboring under the idea that every source of information regarding a subject–no matter how specialized–must therefore expound upon every aspect of that subject.
    If I want an expose of papal politics, I do not pick up a catechism. Nor do I read the program to a Wagner opera when I want to read about the NSDAP’s use of his music for propaganda purposes.
    When I go to a sushi bar I do not sit in the lobby wondering aloud why there is no tempura even though it, too, is Japanese [via the Portuguese].
    This site is specifically geared toward debunking the lies and insanity of anti-Muslim loons.
    Hence the name of the site.
    There are plenty of other sites which primarily deal with Islamic beliefs and praxis. That, however, is not the primary focus of this site

  • Just_Stopping_By

    “Unless you pasted this from somewhere, you wasted a lot of time typing.”

    A version of the “not happy Muslims” is found on page 25 here: “The ninth image is a form of hate speech OHPI has documented previously on a range of anti-Muslim Facebook pages. It is titled ‘Unhappy Muslims’ …. It presents Muslims as a cultural threat.”

    Sounds like OHPI (Online Hate Prevention Institute, based in Australia) is on target here.

  • Ricardo Hotatio

    Ah, a member of the religion that is slaughtering people all around the world uses the word ‘Christofascist’! Should I be surprised? I don’t think so, it is the perfect explanation for this unscrupulous evil.

  • Trimmercastle42

    Its as if he’s claiming that before Islam, there was no evil or suffering and everyone has holding hands and singing campfire songs.
    Evil has exisited since man first walked on earth and is not limited to a single group, “Annihilating” islam will not solve the problem of terrorism nor will evil suddenly disappear.

  • Hate_the_haterz

    “Freedom is speech is justified and required to address evil, not to provoke evil.”

    And do you believe if freedom of speech for Muslims? How about freedom of religion for Muslims?

  • Hate_the_haterz

    ” all comes down to the credibility of the sources”

    What makes your sources any more credible than those of other religions? Your rant here just sounds like a bunch of Christian supremacist garbage. It’s not Muslim majority countries invading, attacking, bombing and drone striking Christian majority countries. It is the other way around. So if you want to talk about violence and religion, look to your own glass house before throwing rocks at anyone else.

    A better line of discourse would be about mutual respect and tolerance between followers of different faiths.

  • Hate_the_haterz

    “Is not it wonderful that within Islam every evil means is permissible to turn this world into a ‘peaceful’ place”

    It’s not Muslims invading, attacking, bombing, and drone striking other countries.

  • Hate_the_haterz

    “Then why is every thing within the Islamic world blown to peaces !?”

    You can thank your western christofascist buddies for that. Iraq, Afghanistan, drone strikes in Pakistan, bombings and cruise missile strikes on tons of other Muslim countries… Indeed, why IS the west blowing up everything within the Islamic world?
    Also, your stupid questions have little/nothing to do with the topic of the article.

  • Hate_the_haterz

    “within Islam every evil means is permissible to turn this world into a ‘peaceful’ place”

    Any evidence to back the is assertion, besides the waste coming out of your backside? Murder and oppression are grave sins in Islam. There is no evil permissible in Islam. Please show us where Islam permits evil.

  • Hate_the_haterz

    “Jihad crimes?” You do realize that even in the context of war, Jihad can only be undertaken in defense. Not aggression.

    The crusades, the inquisition, the genocide of Native Americans and Australian Aborigines, Salem Witch trials, Holocaust of the Jews, world war 1 and 2… Were these all part of the 1400 years of “Jihad crimes” you speak of? Oh that’s right, that was Christians that did all that. Spare us your selective Christofascist memory. Western colonialism /imperialism, and christofascism are responsible for far more “crimes” than Muslims.

  • The greenmantle

    since Jihad means struggle I expect so having read the Book of Job .
    Man did he get some shit .

    Sir David

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