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Dear White Officials: Killing of Blacks is Made in the USA, Not the Middle East

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(L) Killer cop: Ray Tensing. (R) Sam Dubose.

By  Mooneye

America is aflame due to systematic racism. Murders after murders of innocent Black Americans by authorities come to light daily. This isn’t a new phenomenon but one that is being highlighted because of the instant and quick distribution of videos caught by passerbys and/or body cameras.

Many Whites are in denial of this situation, in fact when such crimes and killings occur one often sees political officials downplay it, while right-wing sites and stations such as Fox run amok and do their utmost to blame the victims.

The recent video of University of Cincinnati officer Ray Tensing pulling over Sam Dubose and then killing him execution style has once again put in stark relief the inherent racism within the USA.

Interestingly, the Hamilton County Prosecutor, Joseph T. Deters, while noting the killing as “senseless and asinine” preceded to make his own asinine assertion, stating.:

“This doesn’t happen in the United States, OK?” he said. “This might happen in Afghanistan. People don’t get shot for a traffic stop.”

Excuse me?

Mr. Deters is supposed to be an intelligent individual, after all he is a prosecutor for the state! What explains his cognitive dissonance and bias? This DOES happen in the USA! This HAS been happening in the USA for a long, long time!

Projecting this onto other cultures with such implicit racist statements is completely ignorant and problematically feeds into the false notions of American exceptionalism and superiority over other cultures that are deemed “inferior.” What’s doubly problematic is that Afghanistan is a nation that we have invaded and occupied. Many of those killed in Afghanistan have been killed by US Army personnel!

Deters is not alone in this demeaning attitude. Recall that Sen. Lindsey Graham (a presidential hopeful), stated after the massacre of 9 Black Churchgoers in Charleston by the White supremacist terrorist, Dylann Roof, that,

“I don’t know how you can sit with somebody for an hour in a church and pray with them and get up and shoot them. That’s Mideast hate,” Graham said Wednesday on the Senate floor. “That’s something I didn’t think we had here, but apparently we do.”

No, Sen. Graham that is American Hate! This hate was born, bred and perpetrated in the good ‘ole USA. It’s time for you and others to admit and come to terms with it.

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  • Tanveer Wan Khanobi

    YOU are the idiot. Anyone who simply takes the time to scroll down and read later comments will know why.

  • Tarig Musa

    You’re a funny rambling troll. It’s funny that you say intelligence agencies know a lot, I agree. After all where do you think I got the FACTS, I’ve stated earlier, as opposed to the hyperbole you’re offering up? I’m done speaking to you now, good bye.

  • Tarig Musa

    So you state there are several reasons for a conflict, then as matter of factly state that Afghanistan was invaded to remove the terrorists that were in control of it (the same terrorists that were invited to LA months before 9/11). Do you not see the contradiction in that statement? If not I can’t help you.

    Tell me whilst you’re at it, if countries can be invaded to remove a ‘terrorist’ regime (it can’t, this is a war of aggression which is the supreme crime against international law, a greater crime than genocide), then tell me, why are the governments of the two biggest state sponsors of terrorism, Saudi Arabia and Israel, not being invaded and overthrown? Oh right, they’re good terrorists who do the wests bidding right!

  • Tanveer Wan Khanobi

    Phone thing?

  • jkings

    Its ok. You defend Bin Laden. You can be on that side but there are a few that understand me. If he did do what he was accused of that is not a very cool side to be on. But hey, you didnt do 911 and I would hope you dont want anyone to die needless deaths anywhere in the world. I dont. So God bless anyhow. Take care.

  • Saleem

    I know but it was worth a note, nevertheless. And that phone thing still has my vote.

  • Tanveer Wan Khanobi

    The lower echelons thing was a joke 😀

  • Tanveer Wan Khanobi

    Ah, I see. Just like Saddam Hussein wasn’t deemed a tyrant and a murderer whilst he was gassing kurds and invading Iran. Or how the gulf countries don’t seem to be considered “radical islamists”. It’s all clear now.

  • Tarig Musa

    What on earth does that even mean? This is probably the worst attempt at a response I’ve ever heard! Everything I’ve stated is documented fact. The only conspiracy is that Afghanistan was invaded to ‘free’ it’s people, evidence proves this a lie!

  • Tanveer Wan Khanobi

    I’m quite confused to be honest. I don’t know if I’m just out of my depth right now or if I’m just being plain stupid…or perhaps both.

    It seems to me like you have no problem with America having supported “radical islamists” because supporting these people was useful to American interests (namely, winning the Cold War) but as soon as America’s interests are achieved (namely defeating the Russians), having more or less the same “radical islamists” in power suddenly becomes unacceptable and the treatment of the civilian populace is now of utmost concern – so much so that it is now imperative for America to wage a war against its former allies.

    Have a good day too

  • Tanveer Wan Khanobi

    The lower echelons don’t matter. Who cares about the lower echelons? No one, they are simply unwanted and unloved 😀

    And I swear my phone changes my comments behind my back… I read that comment numerous times. Weird. XD

  • Just_Stopping_By

    On invading Afghanistan, I think that those in charge did it solely for political purposes. To the extent that claiming to help Afghans made it sound like an easier sell to the public, I’m sure they welcomed that as a side benefit.

    On your “issue” with America, I think there are many layers. Some of it is a willingness to accept “collateral damage” to achieve military and other goals. It’s particularly notable because many of our strikes are in open areas and not defensive (e.g., taking out anti-aircraft guns or missiles aimed at our population), so civilian deaths are tougher to blame on a need for an immediate strike before the enemy disappears or fires on us. They are, I believe, generally due to where we draw the line on how accurate we insist that our intelligence be before we authorize a strike.

    Also, if you want to avoid repetition, you should start by looking back at your “in the upper echelons of echelons of power” in your most recent post. 🙂 And why does no one ever seem to discuss “the lower echelons of power”?

  • Tanveer Wan Khanobi

    Perhaps members of the public supported the war thinking it would somehow help the Afghans but I doubt anyone in the upper echelons of echelons of power had any such motives. Do I sound dismissive and cynical saying that? XD

    My main “issue” with America is not that it kills civilians (I say “issue” because the killing of civilians is most definitely something one should take issue with but, a lot of the time, it is to be expected) but the extent to which it will kill civilians for its own interests.

    Also, I’m thinking of changing “you really think” to “do you seriously think” in order to avoid repetition of “really”…. What do you think? XD

  • Just_Stopping_By

    “I mean, really, you really think a country will wipe out 1,147 innocents for simply 41 men (http://www.theguardian.com/us-… ) but still care about innocent people being oppressed?”

    To be fair, I think that countries often do have multiple motives. It’s just that they often put own their political objectives above caring about innocent people in other countries when the two are in conflict.

    That’s one reason why I strongly support publicizing the death and harm that a country or other political entity causes to innocents. That may not deter a group like ISIS or others that actually celebrate deaths, but it may at least help pressure others to make different choices sometimes, even if only because of how those deaths may appall their own citizens and those in the rest of the world.

  • Tanveer Wan Khanobi

    Firstlyl, the edit button exists for a reason. Making three separate comments when you’re responding to one person is simply unnecessary.

    Secondly, please use paragraphs, reading a massive block of text is very difficult and unpleasant.

    Thirdly, the 5 second comment was more sarcasm/hyperbole to demonstrate a point although, admittedly, that wasn’t shown very clearly.

    ‘What the Taliban did at the time, (implementing Sharia law and taking over the government), put all people of Afghanistan in a state of complete oppression.’
    What did you think the the US backed Mujahideen wanted to do?

    ‘Also, why did the US support them when they were known as the Mujahideen?’
    Why the US supported them changes nothing. You call the Taliban the “bad guys” who forced the hand of the reluctant warrior of justice, America, and yet, you don’t seem to have any problem with the fact that America was supporting more or less the same people around 2 decades earlier. Where was America’s concern for the Afghan people back then?

    All the US cares about is its own interests. It doesn’t give a toss about the Afghans or common people in general. If they did would they be droning people going to weddings? Slandering any military aged man murdered within a 3 mile radius of a drone strike as “militants”? Raping prisoners with dogs at Bagram? I don’t know if you are genuinely ignorant or just being disingenuous.

    Then there is America’s lovely behaviour in Iraq, Yemen and Pakistan and they only further demonstrate America’s disregard for civilian life. I mean, really, you really think a country will wipe out 1,147 innocents for simply 41 men (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/24/-sp-us-drone-strikes-kill-1147?INTCMP=sfl ) but still care about innocent people being oppressed? I could perhaps forgive you for having such a high opinion of America is such knowledge was not out in the open but, as it is, I don’t know how you can say America is motivated by the suffering of common people and expect to be taken seriously.

    ‘If there was a large effort to actually help them and not such an effortto smear the West, (resulting in even more fighting and war) the militant bad guys wouldn’t have a leg to stand on.’

    http://rs895.pbsrc.com/albums/ac159/GIFsforhire/Facepalm/facepalm.gif~c200

    🙂

  • Tanveer Wan Khanobi

    ‘Even though more whites get shot by cops, blacks getting shot by cops gets far more attention, but that is fair right?’
    You daft nugget, I’m not entirely clued up on problem of racism in America but even I know that it’s not solely the fact that black people are killed but the fact that they are disproportionately likely to be killed and yet twice as likely to be unarmed.

    http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-killed-police/19423
    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/01/black-americans-killed-by-police-analysis

    Videos such as the one showing the difference in police response when a black man carries a gun in public and a white man carries a gun in public also explains why people are putting the police’s treatment of black people under more scrutiny.

    Then there’s also the way protesters in Ferguson are treated and how (armed?) biker gang members are treated.

    ‘There are neighborhoods in this country that need invaded, but not by you.’
    Excellent statement, I agree. Now apply this to America. We don’t need one of the greatest criminals of our time acting like the world’s policeman. One criminal enacting justice on another? Ridiculous idea.

  • Tanveer Wan Khanobi

    Would you support us invading America in order to stop out of control cops from murdering blacks? True, cops don’t control the government but the issue of senselessly murdering black people every 5 seconds, I think, is widespread enough to warrant an invasion.

  • Tarig Musa

    That Taliban didn’t seem to be an issue when they were being invited to the states mere months before 9/11 to discuss a pipeline (which incidentally they refused to build and were invaded and overthrown a few months later, guess what happened next?) The Taliban also openly and repetitively agreed to hand OBL over to the ICC if evidence of his guilty was provided (which was never done, apparently it was better to invade, occupy, cause chaos and the deaths of tens of thousands of people till today than to try a person in a court of law, I wonder why that is)!

    This exceptionalism and superiority complex you are exhibiting is exactly the point being made!

  • jkings

    “Projecting this onto other cultures with such implicit racist statements
    is completely ignorant and problematically feeds into the false notions
    of American exceptionalism and superiority over other cultures that are
    deemed “inferior.” What’s doubly problematic is that Afghanistan is a
    nation that we have invaded and occupied. Many of those killed in
    Afghanistan have been killed by US Army personnel!”

    Why would anyone want to go to Afghanistan and invade and occupy it? Was it because terrorist took over the government and implemented their cult laws on defenseless civilians? Also didn’t they view terrorist as heroes and gave them a country to hide in? What sort of things were happening in that country before the invasion? I am not surprised to hear people speak against the Iraq war, but its telling when people act like the Taliban were innocent and weren’t strong arming a country and cutting off limbs.

  • Friend of Bosnia

    Ever wonder why the police and armed forces in Yugoslavia were totally Serb-dominated from 1945 on. Never mind that Tito wasn’t a Serb, but Croat-Slovenian. (So what? Stalin wasn’t an ethnic Russian either but Georgian. So was Beria.) A majority of the army officers, the police officers, the secret service (UDBA) were, and continue to be, Greater serbo fascists We have seen the fruition of this in 1992-95 and we are seeing it still today.
    I think in Rwanda it was the same, and only after the Hutu misrule and tyranny was overthrown there was a change. Remarkably, even though today a majority of army and police officers in Rwanda are Tutsi we haven’t heard about oppression or discrimination of Hutu. I wish for an outcome as in Rwanda for BiH too. It will be the only protection and prevention of Serb “Reconquista” and of an outcome as in Spain after 1492. Because there arte lots and lots of Serbs who want just that.

  • JD

    Report: C. African Republic Muslims forced to convert
    http://news.yahoo.com/report-c-african-republic-muslims-forced-convert-120527585.html

    DAKAR, Senegal (AP) —
    Muslims in the western part of Central African Republic are being forced
    to hide their religion or convert to Christianity under threat of
    death, Amnesty International said Friday.

    Central African
    Republic has been rocked by violence since the mostly Muslim Seleka
    rebel coalition toppled the longtime president in 2013.

    Widespread
    human rights abuses committed by Seleka led to the formation of a
    Christian militia known as the anti-Balaka, who have targeted Muslims
    and sent tens of thousands fleeing to neighboring countries.

    Muslims told Amnesty International they’ve been forced to convert or hide practices.

    “We
    had no choice but to join the Catholic Church. The anti-balaka swore
    they’d kill us if we didn’t,” said a 23-year-old man in the
    Sangha-Mbaere prefecture, whose name was not given to protect his
    security.

    A Muslim trader said it was effectively illegal to pray.

    “We have to hide, do it quickly, and do it by ourselves,” he said.

    Amnesty
    International said the bans are happening outside areas under the
    protection of United Nations peacekeepers and renewed efforts must be
    made to protect Muslims under threat and bring back those who have fled.

  • Reynardine

    Both the SPLC and the FBI have credibly reported that white supremacists have been systematically infiltrating police departments since the 1990s. We are seeing the fruition of this now.

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