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For The Coming Year: What Would You Like To See?


By Garibaldi and Ilisha

Dear Loonwatchers,

First, I want to thank you for your continued commitment to reading and engaging, you have made the site worthwhile and better. I will admit that over the past year, and even before then, the output of our content has really slowed, and I want to apologize for that. The main reason for this is that we, the writers (all volunteers), just cannot commit the hours of research, writing and editing necessary to produce good material AND balance work-life responsibilities (i.e. we need to recruit MORE writers).

The election of Donald Trump as president of the United States has emboldened the same Islamophobes that we have challenged, refuted and exposed for years now. Many of these same Islamophobes will be in positions of power or close to the “officials” who will make up the incoming administration.

Paying attention to and investigating the inner machinations, policies and programs formulated by Trump and his team of bigots is going to be crucial for the next four years (Trump may not last that long but his administration will). I’d like to say that I feel the media and social media activists are up to the task but our present-day reality is that we are traversing uncharted waters, where “fake news” and lies are given credence and repute over facts and truth. For quite some time the trend of online media consumers has been to consume that news which already conforms to one’s worldview or ideological and political convictions. (So my question here is how can we be effective in this environment?)

The new political and media landscape means we have to change things up here at Loonwatch, it isn’t 2009 anymore. Your feedback as how best to realize this change is vital. Our initial remit has been fulfilled: taking on the loons and Islamophobes on the internet. Many of our articles, have helped shed nuance and light in the conversation on Islam, Muslims and Muslim Americans. The same articles have challenged the prejudiced narratives about Islam and Muslims. When it comes to legitimacy, the likes of Spencer and Geller have been defeated on the plane of ideas and banned from travel to the UK; a nation with strict laws against hate speech. While Spencer and Geller may have been defeated their propaganda has been taken up by others who have political cache, and with Trump’s election has propelled the ideas of the Islamophobia movement into a greater relevance.

I hope you can share what you would like to see this year? How can we improve? What topics, issues should be covered? I can predict that for sure, consistent content is on the top of the list. As a way of starting us off I want to ask: how valuable and interested are you in seeing more satire? Would you like more articles and media that take on concepts that are twisted by Islamophobes, such as articles done by Danios in the past on Jihad, Taqiyyah, etc.? Any of your thoughts and ideas, whether it be related to design of the site, content and media, integrating social media, and animation are welcome, don’t hold back!

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  • Khizer

    Yeah I was shocked when I reread the first article, especially on a the site like the ‘scientific american’ which is a very logical site.

    The last two articles clearly go against the pathetic points made in the third article. Here are some of the first two articles’ points,

    ‘The U.S. contributes to violence—and the threat thereof–in other less direct ways. The U.S. is the dominant innovator, manufacturer and exporter of arms in the world. Aggressive U.S. development and deployment of drones and cyber-weapons have inspired other nations to pursue these technologies.’

    ‘Rather than eliminating violent extremism, U.S. military actions have arguably exacerbated it. According to The New York Times, one of the suspects in the Charlie Hebdo massacre was allegedly radicalized by “fury over the United States’ invasion of Iraq in 2003, particularly the mistreatment of Muslims held at Abu Ghraib prison.” ‘

    ‘Costs of War does not estimate the number of civilians killed directly by U.S. forces. But according to the reputable group Iraq Body Count, between 2003 and 2001, U.S.-led coalition forces were directly responsible for 15,060 civilian deaths in Iraq.’

    And these are just points from the last article I linked to, so when I read the first one, my jaw literally dropped from the absolute stupidity.

    Read the last two, they are actually very informative and point out the U.S. in creating terrorism.

  • I’m skimming more than reading as I have things to do today, but I’ll make a couple of observations.

    [Al Qaeda] has progressed from the so-called terrorist organizations to an ideology that aspires to world domination.

    Where is the evidence of this? When Bin Laden stated the reason for Al Qaeda attacks on America, he gave a list. Nowhere on the list was “world domination.” It’s vitally important the analysts recognize terrorists want freedom from WESTERN GLOBAL DOMINATION, and they say that over and over and over and over again themselves. These people simply are not listening.

    A terrorist philosophy may be propagated by any of several vectors or vehicles, one of the most prominent being the mosque, where young Muslims are inculcated with an unquestioning reverence for Allah.

    Reverence for Allah is not the cause of terrorism. Young Muslims see the West slaughtering MILLIONS of people worldwide and this is what makes them feel angry and helpless. This entire article is garbage because it never gets to the root cause of terrorism.

    If you do not properly diagnose the problem, there is no point discussing various solutions. It’s like medicating a patient when you have yet to figure out what illness they have.

    Look at the very next sentence:

    The Middle Eastern prisoners whom a team of psychologists led by one of us (Post) interviewed in 2002 consistently cited the mosque as the place where most members were initially introduced to the Palestinian cause.

    So what is it they learned? About the PALESTINIAN CAUSE. Yes, Muslims worldwide are united behind Palestine. The obvious conclusion is that by forcing Israel to make good on its promise of democracy and have ONE STATE for all the people would diffuse the situation greatly.

    But of course the whole point of this article and nearly ALL Western discussion of terrorism is to avoid indicting Western foreign policy. It doesn’t matter how often or how clearly terrorists state their motive is retribution and deterrence in response to violent, unjust foreign policy, ‘thinkers’ int he West will continue to ignore them and make up other reasons.

    So as for the idea of which metaphor we should use (war, legal matter, disease), it doesn’t matter. You can call is whatever you want but what is really is boils down to a three-letter word: LIE.

    They are lying. Pure and simple. I don’t believe they are mistaken. They are not that stupid.

    The Western imperial powers want to go on slaughtering and robbing people with impunity, so elaborate lies have to be made up to cover their tracks. One of the easiest cover ups is to blame Islam and say “they do in the name of Allah!” This way people will hate Muslims and feel they need to kill as many as possible to “drain the swamp,” while never looking into what their own elites are actually doing.

    I guess the idea the public is supposed to accept is:

    <bHuman beings will fully accept being bombed and robbed for 200 years and NEVER fight back, unless they read the Qur'an.

    That is the premise YOU MUST BELIEVE to accept their logic. Yet when America was attacked on 9/11, the bloodletting began and has never stopped.

    Logically we must either admit that people do not lie down and die quietly when attacked, or we must admit that Western leaders were reading the Qur’an and it is for this reason they wanted retribution.

    Which do you think it is?

  • Khizer
  • Friend of Bosnia

    Sorry, but I can’t help myself. These are cruel, callous, evil people who deserve the same degree of cruelty applied to them. Sure, a small minority are not at all like that, but Serbs who show the Bosniaks empathy are few and far in between, and their influence is practically nil. Even those who are too young to have taken part in the war of 1992-95 show the Bsniaks a hostile attitude, because that’s what they have learned from their fathers and grandfathers; also they all know perfectly well what Serbs did during the years of the Greater Serbo-Fascist Genocidal Anti-Bosniak Crusade, and now they are very much afraid that the Bosniaks will someday exact retribution from them. That’s why they hate the Bosniaks, and there’s nothing that can be done about it. Unless the Bosnian Serbs admit their guilt and their land grab, make restitution and ask for forgiveness, then I (and I believe a large proportion of Bosniaks) would be willing to forgive them. But they won’t.
    You see, they never have given up tehir delusions of superiority. They are no different from the Christian Spaniards of the 15th and 16th century who also had no sympathy for the Spanish Muslims. Because as I have said so often, the Reconquista in Spain and the subsequent ethnic cleansing of Muslims from Spain, and the Greater Serb Genocidal Anti-Bosniak Crusade of 1941-45 and 1992-95 are essentially exactly the same thing: acts of land grab and genocide. Bosnia-Herzegovina, insofar as it is not under Serb control, is in exactly the same situation as the Emirate of Granada was during the 15th century until it was finally annihilated in 1492, and subsequently all Spanish Muslims were converted to Christianity by force, subject to the Inquisition and finally deported. Large numbers of them were killed.
    If the Bosniaks want to survive, they must prevail over their enemies. There can be no other way. They must smite their enemies and turn their country into a fortress. Or else they will be overwhelmed, ethnically cleansed and the world will forget them. The best they can hope for is to make the Serbs’ triumph as costly as possible, take down with them as many of their foes as they can, and face death as gallantly as the Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising did. For them too, surrender was not an option.
    Because, and more so in our rightist-populist, Putinist, neo-fascist and anti-Muslim times the stronger prevail and the weak are eaten up. Such is human nature. Since Cain slew Abel, and until Judgment Day. Only then will people be given justice. Until then, gratuitous violence, cruelty, callousness and evil will prevail in the world, and tolerance, empathy, respect and good will only survive in small niches. Many, many more people will go to Hell than to Heaven. That must be so, because also human behavior follows the laws of physics, that is, the path of least resistance, and following the law of gravity that can only go down.
    As for myself, for now I’m safe. But, as I told you too before, imagine if I lived in BiH permanently? What am I to do if someday some pig-faced thugs with the manner of pigs (who call themselves “Serb kinghts”) come to expel me from my home, rape my wife and daughters, rob us of all things and kill me(or us) in the bargain? Am I supposed to turn the other cheek? To say “glad to let you have it”? Even if they come with machine guns and artilery and tanks, with everything short of a nuclear bomb, and all I have is a (small) kitchen knife and a (.25 caliber) pistol and just one clip of ammunition, I will see to it that I take six Serb side-boys down with me, and with my last breath I will spew my hate at them.

  • JD

    Good to see articles here again. I thought the site was dead so I stop coming here .

  • HSkol

    Cover up of rape culture?

    Fact: Within each and every culture on earth there are insecure and violent men who take out their insecurities and aggressions upon women.

    The very closest I can think of where there are cover-ups over any semblance of “rape-culture” would be in American (and, more likely than not British) Fraternities; but, then, perhaps that doesn’t bother you – seeing that the aggressors are typically white male Christians. No?

  • Hate doesn’t achieve anything.

  • Friend of Bosnia

    Yes, the Serbs collectively hold the Bosniaks guilty for all evil that was ever done to Serbs by the Ottomans, the Austrihungarians and the Ustase. And tehse days they call all Bosniaks “Daesh, Al Qaida, Al Nusra Front”. Of course it’s just a pretext for robbing them of everything: their lives, their land, their homes, their belongings, their dignity, their blood and their women, in short, EVERYTHING. And since a large majority of Serbs approve of such things, how can I not hate them?

  • Friend of Bosnia

    Happy belated year to you too. These are real good suggestions, especially #6.
    Let us not forget: Bosnia-Herzegovina and Kosovo. Since it’s not the center of attention right now, everybody seems to think it’s all fine and dandy. It’s not. Quite the contrary. The genocidal Greater Serbo fascist crusaders have never given up their evil project, which has been ongoing since 1804, and which is the same thing, has the same motivation and objectives as the Reconquista in Spain and the subsequent ethnic cleansing of the Iberian Peninsula of 1492 – 1614. And now it seems they will succeed at it. in a few years ther will be only a handul of Muslims left in former Yugoslavia, an underprivileged and downtrodden minority. I hate the notion that such inhuman swine like Milosevic and Karadzic triumph out of the grave or from behind bars (Karadzic might even be set free after just a few years in jail). And not only that, if this inhuman project succeeds, others will follow suit. In the end it will be like the Jews under the Nazis. And nobody say I’m diminishing the Holocaust or insulting its victims. Whether they put you in the gas chamber and burned your body at Auschwitz; or tied your hands behind your back, blindfolded you and shot you in the back at Srebrenica, dumped you in a mass grave, later dug out and dismembered your corpse and said you were “killed in combat” or “brought in from elsewhere”; you are as dead and gone either way; and your next of kin cannot bury and honor you. It’s not a matter of numbers but of intent. Six million out of 30 million, or 80.000 out of 1.2 million, both qualify as genocide. Also, Nazis committed genocide on Jews, and Serbs committed genocide on Bosniaks, not the other way round. To Hell with those who have the chutzpah of trying to convince me otherwise.

  • Sadly the Honey Defender game is gone. It was addictive. 🙂

  • AngieLove

    Hi guys, been enjoying the articles and comments for a couple of years now. However, I think you can improve the comments and discussion on here.

    Of late it seems that any conflicting opinions about any matter are immediately dragged into a straw man argument about western military exploits by the moderators on here.

    It would be nice to see the wider community given the chance to engage in the inevitable heated and various debate you’ll see on a site like this which bring more people to the site!!!

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