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US Culture of Death: Orgasmic Over “Mother Of All Bombs” Dropped on Afghanistan

This is the largest bomb ever dropped in the world after the two nuclear bombs that were dropped on Japan. In the US there have been celebrations and joy over the attack, with many describing it as “what freedom looks like” and praising the “red, white and blue.”

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  • HSkol

    HSkol, you’re cute. No one else will ever say that to you, so I found myself impelled to do so.

    *multiple self appreciative personality disorder … or something*

  • HSkol

    Two very different people with perhaps very different understandings of the world, you and I – yet, we align as siblings (uh, siblings who actually get along, that is *snicker*). Innocently, I heart you.

    Monitoring human rights is the trickiest of the tricky – yet, I think about it often, seeing multiple sides, feeling for all, not understanding all, but wishing to promote self-determination. Your first paragraph is a stamp of reality – I see it; however, the “pious” often enough reject such words at every level. Please permit me to quote Nietzsche, the philosopher I agree with 47% of the time. Further, please do not accept his “grouping” of persons literally, however.

    From The Will to Power:

    342.
    . . .

    b. The inconsistent type. War is waged against evil—there is a belief that war waged for Goodness sake does not involve the same moral results or affect character in the same way as war generally does (and owing to which tendencies it is detested as evil). As a matter of fact, a war of this sort carried on against evil is much more profoundly pernicious than any sort of personal hostility; and generally, it is “the person” which reassumes, at least in fancy, the position of opponent (the devil, evil spirits, etc.). The attitude of hostile observation and spying in regard to everything which may be bad in us, or hail from a bad source, culminates in a most tormented and most anxious state of mind: thus “miracles,” rewards, ecstasy, and transcendental solutions of the earth-riddle now became desirable…. The Christian type: or the perfect bigot.

    Well, that made sense before being called to duty – helping my daughter with her homework. 🙂

    Peace be upon you.

  • HSkol

    Total agreement. And, it all sounds so natural and easy … yet, it often feels as though a swim upstream, against the flow of the stream’s nature itself. Well, you know …

  • I’m happy to know you too, my friend. 🙂

    I’ve been thinking some more about what you said about monitoring human rights, and I think that’s tricky. First because it’s often used as an excuse to attack and dominate people, but also because we don’t all agree on all matters pertaining to human rights.

    For example, in the West it’s generally considered wrong to punish people through the justice system for adultery. This is based on putting a premium on individual rights, as the West tends to do. But to others, communities have rights, and families and children have rights, which are balanced differently against individual rights. Therefore advertising adultery, upsetting the social order, is a crime. Is that a violation of human rights? Which humans?

    An example that might resonate more is abortion. Two sides both think they’re preserving important rights. A woman’s right to choose or a child’s right to live. They can both have good intentions, but they don’t view things the same, like where personhood begins.

    I thought we solved this by creating separate nations, where people could enjoy self determination. They could establish their own social order and system of governance. But the West, despite helping set up that system, doesn’t seem to believe in it. Not unless all nations are build in their image, and if not, they have a “kill or convert” mentality with regard to Western-style liberal democracy.

    It would have been more honest for them to declare that they own planet earth and will dictate to all people everything, including how to define human rights, as well as the social order and system of governance. I feel like once they largely stopped believing in God, they decided they were gods and that they have dominion over heaven and earth.

    I don’t think other people have to accept that. I think we got it right before with sovereign nations, and the West needs to stop bossing everyone else around, stomping on them and taking their stuff.

    Whether or not monitoring or safeguarding human rights ad we see them is good or bad in theory isn’t terribly relevant. In practice, it doesn’t work. The UN is an active participant in some of the worst human rights violations, double standards, and blatant hypocrisy. Who is going to do this fair and effective monitoring and safeguarding?

    I say just leave other people alone. If you don’t like what they do, don’t be allies with them, or more drastically, refuse to trade with them. But that’s all. The rigjt not to engage them, not the right thing to dominate them.

    I’m not at expert at governance. Not even close. But these are my observations.

  • I don’t think there’s a lot common people can do, at least not on a grand scale. Little things matter.

    I like to see people apply some filter to propaganda, and base their beliefs on consistent moral principles. For example, one such principle would be that it’s wrong to murder innocent people, no matter who is the perpetrator, or what the excuse. Another would be that collective guilt and punishment should be rejected in favor of personal accountability. I think these principles are a good bulwark against blind hatred, as well as the notion the best among us are best in deeds–rather than nation, tribe, creed, etc.

    I don’t blame ordinary people for the crimes of governments, as you must know by now. I’m with the common people everywhere and always. Yes, I will argue with people if they get a puffed up chest and a head full of propaganda, and decide to spread fear and hatred of others. But even that isn’t the same as what the elites actually do.

    I think most people are good and kind. Most I meet anyway, and so I think that’s what they can do. Be good and kind themselves. That matters a lot, and it has an everyday impact. What more can we really ask?

  • HSkol

    The best part: On my previous reply to you, I know you’ll respond in your own pure honesty. The worst part: We alone cannot prompt others to take actions that they themselves will not take on their own accord.

    I’m happy to know you.

  • HSkol

    It seems to me that much of this comes down to our “moral superiority”. We’ve lost our way. Human rights abuses seem, to me, to have been a guide at one point in time … long enough ago. My lovely USA is as guilty as the next – yet, we avoid that discussion internally.

    We’ve abused Humanity far too frequently in our intent to protect Humanity.

    #fail

  • HSkol

    How, pray tell, do We the People sway our leaders away from the incredibly offensive “defense of ourselves”? This question has burdened me more and more through time.

    I’m pro-USA. I’m pro-Secular. I’m pro-Let-“them”-determine-themselves. In my view, only a people itself may accommodate themselves, change themselves when desired, contribute as themselves to themselves.

    Let All rise above on their own.

    Yet … monitor human-rights abuses.

    Each of my random thoughts … well, I’d like to apply them universally – I’m selfish in that manner. What can we do? How can I help? How might my work matter to those a world away from me, to those right next to me?

    I do try. I do contribute in my own manner … believe me or not.
    Damn, do I ever love all of us – even those that seem to not deserve as much. Often, I feel that I walk alone; yet, I chug along.

    *rambling*

  • Ajay Kumar

    Impressive! Funny, hilarious and insightful. He makes his points tellingly as he goes. Comedians often tend to be more insightful and intelligent than others.

    Funniest for me was just when I was thinking why a Sikh is talking like that when he pointed to the real Sikh. It was amusing for I though he looked more like a Sikh than the Sikh except that he had no turban.

    Clarified significant points about Islam for me. He would make a good ambassador for Islam and Muslims. Especially before the Western audience. Was being understood, where he was coming from, much appreciated by them. A cosmopolitan crowd.

  • Awesome. 🙂

  • Joey Sanders

    Great quote from Azhar Usman, Muslim comedian.

    https://youtu.be/kmdWGn_ZB3A?t=5m53s

  • ISIS is terrible but let’s not forget the US played a role in the rise of ISIS as well as its funding and training. And welcoming the US presence is like being delighted a vampire has stepped over your threshold to catch a bat. A bat is better than the vampire.

    The US is the Great Destroyer, which leaves nothing but poison (literally) and chaos in the lands it ravages and plunders.

    I’m always stunned when anyone applauds the US murder machine. I can’t fathom that. As if the US government is less destructive than ISIS! They’re both evil.

    What the US needs to do, for it’d own sake was well as others’, is stop meddling.

  • JD

    This time well deserved and we should drop rest we have on these evil terds

  • Waqas Zia

    Not to mention the Americans baffelment when said people retaliate.

  • JD

    This time well deserved and we should rest we have on these evil terds

  • Raymond McIntyre

    I have never understood the American desire to drop bombs on other people’s countries.

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