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“Ex-muslims” That Used To Hate And Retained Their Hatred

Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Many “ex-Muslims” hate Islam. One persistent narrative common in the celebrity ex-Muslim sphere is constructed as follows: once radical “Islamists” they were filled with hate, today as “ex Muslims” they claim to inform non-Muslims and the west that all Muslims are just as filled with hate and extremism as they were.
Today Mona Walter claims that “all Muslims” are as filled with hate as she once was and to support this she claims empirical evidence that Muslims worldwide supported attacks such as 9/11. Despite the fact that only 7 percent of the Muslims worldwide believed that the attacks against USA 2001 were justified, and only a fragment of those cheered when the twin towers collapsed.

  • The overwhelming majority of Muslims – 93 percent – condemned the Sep 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington, and most said the biggest obstacle to better relations with the West was the latter’s lack of respect for Islam.

Mona Walter, claims that all Muslims are like she supposedly was. But she was so extreme that most Muslims would have rebuked or condemned her. She belonged to the 7%, more probably the 1-2% or the most extreme radical “Islamists.”

Hirsi Ali

Another such famous ex-Muslim, that has retained her extremist views of Islam, is Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

In 2014 she gave a speech at Yale, Great Britain.  She explained that she had a teacher in Kenya had radical ideas about Islam that affected her very much. She became indoctrinated with his ideas about Jihad, hate against Christianity, western clothes, and that it was a good “to destroy the Jews” and “hang gays”. Bear in mind Hirsi Ali has a track record of lying as well.

He preached like all the others, incessantly about hell. … Jihad – we were to wage Jihad for the sake of Islam. Martyrdom, the best thing to ever happen to us was to die while fighting for Allah. We were to strive for the establishment of Sharia law in our society and beyond … be suspicious of Christians if they refused to convert to Islam … and aspire to destroy the Jews, all Jews, not only the ones in Israel. The preacher teacher would rant against gays, they were to be hanged, and women were to know their place … their place was at home (and they were to) sacrifice everything, even life and the lives of their children for the sake of Allah. … We were supposed to cover ourselves from head to toe when running errands outside the home.

This process of indoctrination that I describe, that affected me, I considered myself once a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, it’s this the process of indoctrination that I have seen from up close and personal that makes my experience relevant. It’s this process of indoctrination that is overlooked. We focus on the Jihad, the violence, but we ignore the Dahoa, we ignore the years and years and years of preaching.

If she is to be believed there is no doubt she had a weird childhood and youth.

In Kenya, she was beaten so severely by her Qur’an teacher that he fractured her skull. At Qur’an school, Hirsi Ali remembers a classmate who was bullied mercilessly for being a girl with an intact clitoris. … Hirsi Ali learned from her mother that Jews were her darkest enemy. In songs, children’s textbooks, and newspaper articles, Jews were routinely called pigs, donkeys, rats, and cockroaches. “Our religious tutors and the preachers in our mosques set aside extra time to pray for the destruction of Jews,” Hirsi Ali writes.

These claims are unverified but if true it is understandable that anyone in similar circumstances would flee such an environment of hate. What is not understandable is her continued hatred of Muslims. She still believes that all Muslims are as oppressive as those few that “affected” her in her youth.

There is no doubt that there is a lot of mutual hatred between Jews and Muslims in the Middle East and the surrounding parts of the world. PEW polls and reports that were published some years ago tell us that only 9% of Israeli Jews have a positive to Muslims. In the nations bordering to Israel only 1 to 6% of the Muslims have positive views of Jews. In Palestine 1%. The negativity ratings are high. Above 90% view Jews in a very unfavourable way in large parts of the Middle East.

Prejudices and hatred is not the same as wanting to murder innocent Jews and vice versa. I have seen no polls about Muslim attitudes to killing Jews  because they are Jews but would imagine that very few share that idea; in Europe and the USA hardly none.

The choice

This phenomena is one that is not limited to “exmuslims”. There are a number of “ex Jews” too that are gaining fame in parts of the world and that believe that all Jews are evil. One such is Israel Shamir, that is one of the most famous antisemites in Russia today. His worldview is similar to Hirsi Ali’s, and because of that he claims that all Jews are like he once was.

As a Muslim you face the same choice as a Jew or a Christian: to “love your neighbour” or hate him or her. To let the things that happen in the Middle East affect your heart and mind so you hate, or to love, despite power politics and wrongdoings of a corrupt elite.

As an “ex-Muslim”, or “Ex Jew” or “ex Christian” you face the same choice. Either you describe the religion you once belonged to in the worst possible way, or admit that not all are insane and radical. As an ex-Muslim that once was filled with hate, you face the choice to describe all Muslims as being as extreme as you once were, or to be more honest and show that most would not have agreed with the hate you once bore in your heart.

Unfortunately, too many “ex Muslims” claim that the view of Islam they once bore is the one all Muslims share: thus claiming that all of Islam and all Muslims are evil.

Edited 5/9 – Garibaldi

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  • Khizer

    She wasn’t alluding to any such thing. How did you come to such a conclusion?

  • sasboy

    Exactly.

  • Sam Seed

    So when her her lies were exposed she was expelled….’what to do….Hmmm…demonise Islam, that will work’. Now lie some more….but Karma awaits..

  • Khizer

    When a Muslim does something intolerant in a Muslim country:

    STUPID MUZZLIMZ ARE INTOLERANT, CROOL, AND ANTI-FREEDOMZ REEEEEEEEEEE!?!!!?! THIS IZ WHY I MOVE TO TOLRANT WEST,!!!!!

    When Muslims practise their religion freely, do not cause harm and are observant of their religion in tolerant western countries:

    WTF!?!?!!!!?! HIW DARE THEY PRACTISE THEIR RELIEGION AND WANT BASIC REZPECT HERE,?!!!.!?!! GO BACK TO DURKIT BURQA LAND!!! THIZ IZ ABSOLUTE OPPREZZION AND DEZTRUCTION OF SOOPER TOOLERUNT WESTERN CULT-TURE!!!!

    Right wing ‘anti-SJW, anti-liberal’ reactionary Ex-Muslims are a mess just like extreme Muslims in the countries they claim to have ran away from for being ‘too intolerant’ (which they gleefully partake themselves when it comes to members of their former religion).

  • Raad

    stupid indeed

  • Riz

    “but then they say that in Heaven they rejoice more over a repentant sinner than over someone who never sinned.”

    Brother are you sure about it? Can you let me know any reference on it?

  • Friend of Bosnia

    Well, I don’t care for apostates. Not if they become an useful idiot/tool for the enemy. As for how to punish and apostate, it would depend on the damage he’d do to my side, on how the enemy could or would exploit his act of treason as propaganda. Had there been no war when Kusturica apostasized I wouldn’t have cared. But he did commit treason and desertion in times of war, and under such circumstances such behavior can’t be tolerated. I would strongly advise him never to come back to Sarajevo, and if he dares that he be arrested on the spot. It’s really a dilemma, because I don’t want him necessarily shot, but what if he returns to Islam? Islamic law demands that a repentant apostate must be let to go free and that all his sins be forgiven. Hmmm … but then they say that in Heaven they rejoice more over a repentant sinner than over someone who never sinned.

  • Friend of Bosnia

    So what? What has it got to do with me.
    Desertion in face of the enemey in times of war and collaboration with the enemy in times of war usually are capital offenses and can be punished accordingly. If the US, the Chinese and many other nations can do that, why do you object just to Muslims?!?
    If someone apostasizes and keeps quiet about it I have no problem with leaving him alive. You would be surprised hw many Bosniaks are Muslims just by name. But it was justification enough for the Serbs to kill them anyway. So I will NOT become an atheist. What would that help against genocidals. I just will no longer want nor appreciate his friendship any more. But if he goes on to bad-mouth other Muslims and makes a public show of his apostasy, in order to support islamophobes and harm other Muslims – including me – that’s something that can’t be tolerated.

    And don’t even THINK of calling me terrorist, feller!

  • Sher Shah Dahan

    Which of course has nothing to do with anything the person wrote nor the article.

  • iksnilol

    Don’t forget the siege of Mecca.

  • JD

    Pro tip someone with “the truth” does not charge people to hear them speak unless your trying make $$ Ms Ali
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/13228fc2cb3a1d12ac7c544253239ca00a3b0aea90f79312136eb50886c9633c.jpg

  • Syndicate2006

    SMDH.

  • Syndicate2006

    What a load of BS. Most Muslim countries are ruled by secular authoritarian regimes.

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  • Riz

    All this talk about Ex-Muslims have escaped the hatred of Islam, is a load of bulls**t. The only hatred they find is their own intention and opinion, nothing more than that.

    If you say, the so called Ex-Muslims fell into the trap of worldly life, money and fame, i totally agree with you

  • Khizer

    Can’t stand ex-Muslims who spread hate and stupid conspiracy theories like this guy.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8eqRELPhv44

    DAE IZLAMIZATION OF TE WEST ?!?!!?!?

  • Khizer

    Did you know that criticising and making fun of Maajid ‘opprotunist’ Nawaz and Ayaan ‘defeat Islam militarily’ = spewing bigotry against Ex-Muslims?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/5b20a9/rislam_celebrates_maajid_and_ayaan_being_listed/

    What do you think?

  • sasboy

    It is a well kept secret Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s life story was debunked in its entirely as an elaborate hoax, causing her to be expelled from the Netherlands. This television documentary exposed her lies in 2006 – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGXIw0hHd8o

  • Demonizing Islam and Muslims isn’t going to fix anything.

  • Arraik Cruor
  • HSkol

    Ex-whomevers do seem to have this wonderful way of being militant and fanatical. They seem to have this “it’s all my way as I’ve come to see it from my own personal experience, and all else is unsound and invalid” type attitude – where the slightest disagreement is to them a failure in their opponent’s character. Heck, this can even be applied – though at a much less important value – to ex-smokers and the like.

    To a large degree, this just seems to be a part of the package of ex- … or something. Makes no sense to me. Many people change – whatever the reason. Why discount an entirety of persons who align with your former label – though most, if not all, have witnessed very different experiences?

  • Friend of Bosnia

    Well, I have no indication that Emir Kusturica ever was an Islamist who hated non-Muslims. But he’s certainly a self-hating Muslim. Why else would he have embraced Serbdom (an attitude, not by itself a religion but it includes a fanatic adherence to Orthodox Christianity as well) with such enthusiasm.
    To be a traitor to one’s people and to the faith of one’s people, especially in times of war, to join ranks with a ruthless enemy set out to commit genocide on one’s own people, and to declare oneself as part of said enemy – that’s beyond good and evil. That’s unforgivable. Some day, if he exhausts his usefulness, his own sponsors will dispose of him. Because as the saying goes “Rome does not pay traitors.”

    Also, you don’t hand in your resignation notice to Islam. No, you don’t.
    What is 100% certain is that those so-called “ex-Muslims” are all hypocrites.

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