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Pamela Geller’s Ugly Islamophobic Ads Beautified By Muslim Super Hero

These are absolutely lovely.

via. Dead State

Anyone who thought that running Islamophobic ads on buses in San Francisco – a famously liberal city – was going to come without consequence, probably deserves any kind of humiliation they get.

That’s exactly what’s happening with ads disseminated by the U.S. branch of the Freedom Defense Initiative (classified as a hate group in the U.K.), which seeks to compare Muslims with Nazis.

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Some quick-thinking person decided to ad a twist to the ads, by defacing their garbage message with pictures of Kamala Khan, Marvel Comic’s first Muslim superhero.

Here are some the of ads that the website Street Cred spotted and posted to their Facebook page:

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    • lovezion

      YOU, loonwatch.com AND YOUR SUPPORTERS HERE ARE THE BIG BIGOTS!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE DEFACING AFDI AND ITS WORK. SINCE YOU LOVE THE SAVAGES, THE CUTTHROATS THEN WHEN (NO LONGER IF) THEY COMPLETE THEIR INFAMOUS CONQUEST OF MY COUNTRY, THE USA, AND CUT OFF THE HEADS OF THE LIKES OF YOU (YES, THEY DON’T CARE THAT YOU ARE ON THEIR SIDE) THEN I’D LIKE TO SEE YOUR HEAD SMILING!!!!!!!

    • Lithium2006

      You had him first.

    • Razainc_aka_BigBoss

      You can keep Cruz we already have enough loons to deal with here

    • To desire and to not act on your desires are two different things. I can’t speak for God, I really don’t know what to say. However, although it is not entirely PC to say this, but I have seen correlation in males between childhood abuse by the same gender and homosexual behavior. Is homosexuality preventable? People who defend it say its genetic however for the small data set I have noticed, there is a large environmental effect. I guess that would make it the situation more sadistic that one could have homosexual tendencies because of the actions of another human being and not being able to act on those. But then again, heterosexuals could have a variety of behaviors that perhaps they would want to engage in such as group sex, partner swapping, pornography, etc. that pious people need to refrain from. It is God’s test that whoever ignores Satan’s whispers the most, gets the most reward. Getting back to your question, perhaps if a person does regard a homosexual tendency to come from Shaitan instead of considering it an intrinsic genuine allowable human characteristic, they try harder to fight it? So, in the end God is not sadistic at all. Wallahu Alam!

    • George Carty

      “Men (and women) are sexual animals and it is beyond torture staying without a sexual partner.” (Salim Boss, They Are Either Extremely Smart or Extremely Ignorant)

      Given that Islam doesn’t seem to have the anti-sexual, pro-celibacy bias that Pauline Christianity does (didn’t Muhammad condemn celibacy as against nature?), could not critics of Islam argue that Allah is a sadist for creating gay people?

    • Reynardine

      Or, as we used to say in the South Florida Renaissance Guild, “If I were thee, varlet, I’d be trembling in thy boots!”

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      No. I don’t know what a dictionary is.

    • HSkol the Redundant

      Do you have a dictionary? That might help you.

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      Stop?

    • HSkol the Redundant

      Stop. Unfortunately, many of us see that reality is oft but a dead-end. I say we aim toward truly recognizing Palestine as a sovereign state unto itself; however, history tells us that such a goal is lofty. Either way, I’ll do whatever little part I can in helping this to happen.

Zaid Jilani: “Right Wingers Taunting Muslims with Images of Pork Are Bringing Back an Anti-Semitic Trope”

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The frequency of using pork/pigs as a form of attacking Muslims and Islam is not only ignorant but harkens back to what Zaid Jilani writes is an ancient anti-Semitic trope. It should also be noted that during the Inquisition forced pork feeding and pork identity politics were used in harassing and abusing both Muslim and Jewish “conversos.”

AlterNet, By Zaid Jilani

It is sadly common to see grassroots conservatives engage in Islamophobia – it’s one of the most acceptable types of hate for the modern Republican Party. One way of spreading this hate is to mock Muslims with pigs or pork.

Here’s one example, posted on the day of the Paris attacks, highlighted by Bloomberg’s Dave Weigel:

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What these individuals don’t seem to know is that they’re trafficking in what actually began as an ancient anti-semitic trope. Muslims don’t consume pork for the same reason many religious Jews don’t – they follow a version of kosher rules.

For centuries, these kosher rules were used by anti-semitic movements to compare Jews to pigs or to taunt Jews with pork.

In the book Anti-Semitic Stereotypes: A Paradigm of Otherness in English Popular Culture, 1660-1830, the author notes that English schoolboys would taunt Jews with a chant, “Get a bit of pork/Stick it on a fork/And give it to a Jew boy, a Jew.”…

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    • George Carty

      I would say there were also similarities between Islamophobia and anti-Catholicism, such as the “they’re outbreeding us” trope, and the notion that the religion is fundamentally incompatible with Enlightenment values.

    • Reynardine

      Praise the Lard!

    • downwithpants

      Mmmm heavenly bacon you can really taste the blasphemy.

    • Hate_the_haterz

      I don’t know what all the fuss is about. These hate mongers are just taking pictures of their relatives. Let them enjoy their family photos. Although it is a bit morbid that their killing, cooking and eating said relatives, and possibly throwing their remains at Muslims and/ or Mosques. But hey, hate rots the mind.

    • Capt. JB Hennessy

      We could retaliate against the Republicans by posting images of “Freedom Fries”.

    • Banter

      I’m not sure, i’ve read about it on muslim run media sites.

    • cmyfe .

      They like pork so much…

    • Reynardine

      In fact, my father, who was already almost fifty when I was born, recalled that when he was a student in Brooklyn, a ham sandwich order used to be called back to the kitchen as, “Douse the lights and chase the rabbi!”

    • mindy1

      Not surprised, most of the time the two are related.

    • GaribaldiOfLoonwatch

      I haven’t but it looks very interesting, I definitely follow Kundnani’s work. Has any media picked it up?

BBC: Jerusalem’s 800-year-old Indian Hospice

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“It turns out there’s an 800-year-old Punjabi Sufi hospice in Jerusalem, linked to the famous Sufi saint Baba Farid’s visit to the city all those centuries ago. Astonishing stuff — like most people, I had no idea about any of this. The article also mentions Farid’s links to Sikhism and the Guru Granth Sahib. Farid is regarded as the founder of Punjabi Sufism; he was also the direct predecessor of Nizamuddin Auliya.” (h/t: Jai Singh)

BBC,

Around the year 1200, little more than a decade after the armies of Saladin had forced the Crusaders out of the city, an Indian dervish walked into Jerusalem.

Hazrat Farid ud-Din Ganj Shakar (or Baba Farid, as he is better known) belonged to the Chisti order of Sufis, a mystical brotherhood that still flourishes today across India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. Later accounts of his life said that he spent his days sweeping the stone floors around al-Aqsa mosque, or fasting in the silence of a cave inside the city walls.

No-one knows how long Baba Farid stayed in the city. But long after he had returned to the Punjab, where he eventually became head of the Chisti order, Indian Muslims passing through Jerusalem on their way to Mecca wanted to pray where he had prayed, to sleep where he had slept. Slowly, a shrine and pilgrim lodge, the Indian Hospice, formed around the memory of Baba Farid.

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More than eight centuries later, that lodge still exists. And although it stands inside Jerusalem’s walls – perhaps the most fiercely contested stretch of ground anywhere in the world – it is still in Indian hands.

The current head of the lodge, 86-year-old Muhammad Munir Ansari, grew up there in the years before World War Two, when Palestine seemed to end just outside the gate.

“All the residents were Indian. I felt as if I was living in India. Whenever we entered the Hospice – Indian state!” he says. “At that time people came by ship. They used to bring food, rice, even their salt. Salt! All from India. As soon as you entered the gate, the smell of Indian food, they were washing their clothes, hanging them here in the courtyard.”

The war cut off the flow of pilgrims and brought an end to the colourful scenes of Munir’s childhood.

Muhammad Munir Ansari as a boy, in about 1936

Sheikh Muhammad Munir Ansari as a boy

The lodge became a leave camp for the Indian Fourth Infantry division, whose soldiers had only just left when the first Arab-Israeli war broke out in 1948. By the time Munir succeeded his father as Sheikh – head of the lodge – in 1952, the building was scarred by shelling and overrun with Palestinian refugees.

But worse was to come.

In 1967, as the Israeli army fought its way into Jerusalem during the Six Day War, the lodge was hit by rockets.

“The ’67 war started on Monday 5 June. On the second day we found them at our entrance. By night, 50 or 60 soldiers inside the gate – Jordanians. They were in terrible condition, asking for water,” he says.

“That was on Tuesday. On Wednesday morning we went out to find not a single soldier. They ran away, leaving their uniforms and even their weapons. That day the Israelis began to prepare for entering the Old City. So these weapons that had been abandoned, some local people took these guns and started shooting. And we paid the price.”

As the Israelis bombarded the hospice, Sheikh Munir herded his family from room to room. The shells found them near the shrine of Baba Farid. The roof collapsed. Sheikh Munir, his hands and face badly burned, pulled the survivors from the rubble. His mother, his sister, and his two-year-old nephew were dead.

From a hospital in the Old City, Sheikh Munir brought his family back to the ruins. “We came home. Very sadly, I can say. Imagine how the situation was. Most of the rooms were damaged. My hands were burned, my eyes were closed, my hair was burned. It was a miserable situation.”

Miserable or not, there was no question of abandoning the lodge. Its history went back too far – to the days when Saladin was still consolidating his hold on Jerusalem.

Baba Farid arrived in a city that had just returned to Muslim hands after almost a century of Christian rule. The Crusaders, ensconced along the Mediterranean coast, had not gone away, and Saladin understood that if the Muslims were to keep Jerusalem, they would need to match the Crusaders not only on the battlefield but in their zeal for the city.

The Sufis therefore served a useful purpose.

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    • Capt. JB Hennessy

      Hopefully they remain awake. All it takes for them to go backwards is just one guy with a smile bearing gifts.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Yes, they will have to. In this context maybe we can see the recent rapprochement between Serbia and Turkey (there are economic coperation projects, therre were joint military exercises) in a positive light, in the sense that, like it or not, the Turks might restrain the Serbs should they try to get nasty to Bosniaks again. It’s too early to tell. Let’s be optimistic but also watchful.

    • Capt. JB Hennessy

      The Serbs are going to have to get real eventually. The Russians are warming up to the Turks. The Russian South Stream pipeline project that was going to bring plenty of cash to Serbia has found its way to Turkey. And the Turks are solid supporters of Bosnia far more solid the Russian support for Serbia. All Serbia needs now is for someone to tell them that.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      I’ll endorse that.

      OK but now they’re there. The Bosniaks aren’t going away, neither are the Serbs, nor can it be that they live in enmity forever, they will have to find a way to get along. The first step for the Serbs would be to say of the Bosniaks, “All right, they exist.” From that everything else will surely follow.

    • Rajano

      Sufis are very misunderstood in the west, a lot of Americans who know that the word Sufi “has something to do with religion” are completely unaware it is a variety of Islam.

    • Capt. JB Hennessy

      I appreciate the time and effort you took to say that.

      From my research on Bosnia, well actually on the Balkans I realized that it is the Serbs who are “foreigners” to the Balkans. They were originally expelled from Russia into Bulgaria then from all the shenanigans they conducted they were expelled from Bulgaria to what is now Serbia. Secondly from what I understood the reason was also to create a burden of mass refugees on the Ottoman empire.

      The problem with Serbs is they actually don’t understand what they are talking about. They mimic supremacists who tend to be stupid to begin with.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Aha. yes. As far as I know Bosniaks have always been there in Bosnia even though they became Muslims only on the 16th and 17th centuries. Their name is mentioned in historic documents. Yes, the Greater Serbs try to rewrite history and that’s unacceptable. Who’s to say? Not just Bosniaks, many other people became Muslims. There sure are Bosniaks who are descended from Serbs (even though most are descended from Catholics); very few are descendants of Turks or of Andalusi Muslims who came to the Ottoman Empire after being ethnically cleansed from Spain. Others may be descended from Arabs, Chechens, Hungarians, Macedonians, Bulgarians, Greeks, Albanians who settled in Bosnia. Today that is not relevant at all. A person with South Slavic language and Muslim background is a Bosniak. And that’s that. To say that Bosniaks are Serbs is like saying that Latin Americans are Spanish. Even those who are direct descendants of the first Spaniards to come to the Americas don’t see themselves as Spaniards. Bosniaks are Bosniaks. Just like Native Americans are just that, no matter where their ancestores may have come from.

    • Capt. JB Hennessy

      From what I heard these “protesters” came not only from all over Germany but from other parts of Europe as well.

      I find anyone who alters or changes history to be evil.

      I’ve talked to Serbs and each one that I talked to stated Bosnian Muslims are foreigners. They classify them as immigrants. Yet historically Muslims have been there longer than the Serbs. Serbs were expelled from Bulgaria in the 1800’s. That is similar to what zionists claim that Palestinians are immigrants. And it is similar to White supremacists who claim Europeans were in north America before us Natives.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Not likely because the proportion of foreigners in Saxony is actually rather small. Thus there can be only a handful of Serbs there. Also I try to make the distinction; most Serbs are not actually evil, they just don’t know any better or are misguided or willfully ignorant. However, as for most of their leadership, if they had had to face the judges at Nurmeberg, it would have taken thedr judges all of 30 seconds to send thzem to the gallows, and deservedly so. The ICTY judges would be very well advised to grow some, but that’s another story. Whether a people can be said to be genocidal or not depends on the proportion that is willing to support genocidal policies. It’s difficult to say without an opinion poll; even so, the most I hear from Serbs on the www is hate speech or downright genocidal. Except for the contributions from the Serb Helsinki Committee. Xenophobia is not an exclusively Serb phenomenon but it was most notorious in the 1990s, and those who suffered because of it will feel the pain forever. And in view of the recent events and of the general feeling of anti-Muslim hostility and hysteria it can’t be ruled out that in the near future there will be pogroms, attempts and even the outlawing and ethnic cleansing of Muslims in Europe.

    • Capt. JB Hennessy

      I’ve been hearing reports that most of the PEGIDA servants in Dresden are actually Serbs.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Hopefully. Unless several of over 600 mosques destroyed by the Bosnian Serbs.

    • Capt. JB Hennessy

      Hopefully this place still exists and has not been turned into a parking lot.

    • mindy1

      Places like that should be protected and not subject to human idiocy and hate.

Sweden: Protesters Denounce Firebombing Of Mosque That Injured Five

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RawStory

Several hundred marchers turned out in Sweden on Friday to denounce an arson attack on a mosque that injured five people Thursday, as the traditionally tolerant country confronts the rising influence of the extreme right.

A firebomb was thrown through a closed window of the mosque in the central city of Eskilstuna on Thursday, injuring five of the nearly 70 worshippers inside — two of whom remained hospitalised Friday.

Answering calls to denounce the attack by the “Together for Eskilstuna” Facebook page, a large group of people converged on the damaged mosque to show their support.

“Several hundred people were there to deliver a message of friendship,” police spokesman Roland Lindqvist told AFP.

According to police, windows in a second Eskilstuna mosque were broken overnight Thursday, though authorities couldn’t say whether the two attacks were linked.

Sweden’s leftist Prime Minister Stefan Lofven denounced what he called the spurt of “hateful violence.”

“We will never tolerate this kind of crime. Those who want to practice their religion should have the right to do so,” Lofven told public radio station SR.

No suspects had been arrested Friday afternoon in the case police have opened for aggravated criminal arson, which has been joined by Sweden’s intelligence service, Sapo.

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    • Capt. JB Hennessy

      The Zionist Right Wingers are feeling hurt.

      They were hoping for all out hate and raged induced response against Australian Muslims after the Cafe siege but those undisciplined Aussies launched “I’ll Ride With You” campaign. They called for an full force anti-Muslim rally in Germany and Pegida could only muster up 15.000 supporters top figures. And that crowd was your usual over the hill, impotent, chronically unemployed that has a lot of time to sit of Facebook and rant because no one in the family is listening to them.

      And before all of that there was the Canadian Parliament Hill attack and those pesky Canucks started asking their leader why more isn’t being done to help the mentally ill instead of running amok on their streets dismembering Muslims and deporting the pieces to Palestine.

      Naturally Zionist feelings are going to be hurt, they have sensitivities too you know.

  • mindy1

    Go Sweden

Kansas City: Muslim Teenager Murdered By Man Who Hated Islam, Compared Quran to Ebola

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“Quran is a virus disease worestr than Ebola”

A young man of 15, Abdisamad Sheikh Hussein had his life stolen away from him, reportedly for no other reason than he was a Muslim. The perpetrator is an unidentified individual of 30, also a Somali who had a deep seated hatred of Islam and Muslims, even comparing the Quran to Ebola. The perpetrator sounds like Ayaan Hirsi Ali, except he was actually willing to carry out his hatred of Islam and Muslims in a personal bloody attack.

You can reach out to support the Somali community center and share your condolences at 816-842-2191.

The vile and hostile rhetoric from those who are a part of the industry of Islamophobia is creating monsters, monsters who dehumanize and kill. (h/t: Hadi)

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A 15-year-old boy died after losing too much blood when his legs were severed in what police believe was an intentional attack outside the Somali Center of Kansas City Thursday evening.

Abdisamad Sheikh Hussein, who goes by the name “Adam” was getting into a car outside the Somali Center, 1340 Admiral Blvd., when he was hit by a man driving an SUV at about 5:30 p.m. Thursday.

Adam is a student at  Staley High School, 2800 NE Shoal Creek Pkwy, in the Northland. He was rushed into surgery at Children’s Mercy Hospital, but did not survive.  His family says he was brain-dead and they decided to take him off life support.

North Kansas City School District spokesperson Michelle Cronk says extra counselors are available to help Adam’s classmates as they learned the news on Friday.

“It became pretty clear that this was not an accidental crash, there is a considerable amount of evidence that leads us to believe it was intentional,” Sergeant Bill Mahoney with KCPD said.

According to some witnesses, the suspect, who is now in jail awaiting charges is a man known to them. They say he is also from Somalia, and that he has a history of hating Muslims.

FOX 4 had not named the suspect, pending charges.

Family and people heavily involved with the Somali Center near Admiral Boulevard and The Paseo say a man had been threatening people in the Muslim community for months now on Facebook. Several others say that same man pointed a gun at them, threatening to kill them because of their Muslim religion.

One friend of Adam’s recalled the man telling them that “Quran is worse than Ebola.”

Friday morning, Bridget Patton, FBI Public Affairs Specialist, said the FBI has opened the case as a Federal Civil Rights investigation and potential Hate Crime violation.

“A month or two ago he came to the Somali mall, two blocks from here. Things got bad, they started arguing and he pulled a gun,” Abdul Mohamed, a man who knows the victim, said.

Family told FOX 4’s Megan Brilley at the crime scene that Adam Hussein is the son of the Somali Center’s leader, and they were devastated by the events that happened Thursday night.

“Our family is very destroyed at what happened. He’s a sweet, loving kid. He doesn’t deserve this,” Khadra Dirir, the victim’s aunt, said. “I’m pretty sure it’s a hate crime from things I’ve been hearing. I hope that someone brings him to justice.”

Police quickly arrested the suspect.

“He tried to leave the scene but couldn’t get anywhere in the vehicle.  He bailed out of it, started running eastbound and was apprehended by officers,” Sgt. Mahoney said.

“He can exercise his First Amendment, but him actually come and try to run over kids, that’s just ridiculous. Like who does that?” said Khadra Dirir.

A second person hurt reportedly didn’t suffer life-threatening injuries.

Friday is a worldwide day of congregational prayer for Muslims and some were out early Friday morning at Admiral Blvd and the Paseo, where the prayer center is located.

The Heartland Muslim Council released a statement overnight which read, in part:

Kansas City Muslim community is deeply shocked at the hit and run, apparently intentional assault last evening outside a mosque on Admiral Boulevard in Midtown Kansas City. The attack resulted in the death of a teenager and serious injuries to another teenager. Our thoughts and prayers for the victims and their families and friends.

We ask the federal law enforcement authorities to investigate this attack as a possible hate crime.
We commend the Kansas City Police Department for apprehending the suspected killer immediately after the crime. We hope the suspect will be charged and brought to full justice.

In light of the increased attacks on the mosques across the nation, we appeal to the law enforcement departments to provide extra safety and security to the mosques, Islamic schools and Muslim businesses.”

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    • HSkol

      Very exciting hobby you have . . . very exciting . . .

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      I did create Twitter to add Tanveer Khans, yes. I’ve even started it on Facebook. And to delete a post, just edit the post to “delete” and our wonderful mods should remove it completely.

Redneck Oklahoma State Rep. John Bennett Ups the Ante, Says Islam is ‘a cancer in our nation that needs to be cut out’

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John Bennett hates Islam and Muslims, he even went to another country in an offensive war to kill brown folks in predominantly Muslim majority nations where he boasts about “fighting on the frontlines.”

Now he has returned to Oklahoma, joined politics and advocates ‘cutting Islam out of our nation,’ likening it (and by extension Muslims) to cancer.

John Bennett, not only supported the Iraq War but fought in it, he is as implicated in its destruction and the present chaos as the likes of pastor Gary Cass.

By Bill Sherman, Tulsa World

State Rep. John Bennett, R-Sallisaw, meeting Monday night with about 85 constituents at a Republican gathering at Western Sizzlin’ here, did not back down from statements he made earlier this month that were critical of Islam.

Bennett has been at the center of a political maelstrom that has gained national attention since he published comments on social media warning people to be wary of Muslim Americans and then refused to apologize in the face of mounting criticism.

Asked before the meeting whether he planned to apologize for his comments, Bennett said, “No. Because I’m right, and they know I’m right.”

“CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) used political pressure to make me back down, but I didn’t and I’m not going to,” he said to a standing ovation. Bennett, who served in the U.S. Marines in Iraq and Afghanistan, said he has heard from people all over the world supporting his position.

In a lengthy presentation that included videos made within U.S. mosques, Bennett outlined a history of the Islamic faith and his views that Islam is a sociopolitical movement intent upon destruction of Western civilization and world domination. “Their goal is the destruction of Western civilization from within,” he said. “This is a cancer in our nation that needs to be cut out.”

“The media is playing right into their hands,” he said. “We need to share his (Jesus’) story, love others and stand for freedom,” he said to loud applause. I love each and every one of them, but I’m not going to stand back and let them push Islam into our nation.”

He said the FBI has severed ties with CAIR in part because the organization was alleged to be an unindicted co-conspirator in a major trial about funding terrorism.

Ibrahim Hooper, communications director of CAIR in Washington, D.C., said the unindicted co-conspirator charge against CAIR was legal “mumbo jumbo” that came out of the Holy Land Foundation trial in 2007. “The key word is ‘unindicted,’” he said.

One attendee, Alan Beard, said he was “100 percent in agreement with what John said, and I stand behind him.” “You just have to look at other countries like England and Australia where they’ve gotten a foothold,” he said.

Another listener asked how to get Islam out of school textbooks. “Islam has no place in these United States,” she said.

Also on Monday, Tulsa Metropolitan Ministry released a resolution calling for Bennett and Oklahoma Republican Party Chairman David Weston to apologize for remarks that “put all Muslims in Oklahoma in one group, associating them with terrorists and encouraging fear and wariness among our citizens against other citizens.”

The resolution was signed by more than two dozen groups affiliated with the local Say No to Hate Coalition, including the Jewish Federation of Tulsa, Tulsa Interfaith Alliance, Oklahomans for Equality and several churches.

Bennett’s criticism of Islam comes at a time when polling indicates Middle East violence and the beheading of two American journalists may be shifting U.S. public opinion against the world’s second-largest religion.

Half of Americans now believe Islam is more likely to encourage violence than other religions, according to a Pew Research Center poll conducted in early September.

That figure is up 12 percentage points since February, when 38 percent answered affirmatively.

Older Americans, Republicans, conservatives and evangelical Christians were much more likely to link Islam to violence: white evangelicals, 70 percent, up 16 points since February; conservative Republicans, 72 percent, up 11 points; people 65 or older, 64 percent, up 18 points.

Forty-two percent of Democrats agreed with the statement, a 14-point increase since February. One-third of adults under 30 agreed, up six points from February.

The poll also showed that increasing numbers of Americans are concerned about Islamic extremism in the United States and abroad.

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    • Friend of Bosnia

      Here see another example oif that vile redneck zionazi scum and his evil mendacious anbd puerile ideas that I found today QUOTE “I deny that Srebrenica was a genocide, and unlike you, I don’t hide behind my words when things get tough as you are now running from your neo-Nazi glorifications. Thousands of Serbs were murdered in Srebrenica alone which you, Sauda and the rest of the Serbophobes on here choose to ignore. You choose to only acknowledge civilian casualties based on their ethnic make up. As far as Sarajevo, over 100, 000 Serbs lived there before the war and today there are less than 10, 000. But that’s not genocide, right? Ethnic cleansing? Of course not! They are Serbian civilians after all!” UNQUOTE He openly admits that he is a Bosniak genocide denier and again and agin he comes up with the Milivoje Ivanisevic propaganda lie that “Bosniaks killed 3000 Serbs at Srebrenica” And again he comes with teh lie that teh Bosiakls killoed 90.0000 Serb residents of Sarajevoi when the whole world knows that those 90.000 are alive and wellin Istocno Sarajevo, “RS”; and bad-mouthing the Bosniaks. That I must share the Earth with such vile creatures…! the notion that people withg such evil ideas exist. And he smearsme as jihadist and IS. In truth I am pro FSA, hard as their lot is.So I may be excused of getting the notion that he should fall into theier hands and get that sort of treatment, not the good people who came to Syria to help the people. That he stated he is pro Assad only shows what a kind of human (human???) being he is. And the worst is that a sufficiently large proportion of Serbs and of Serb government big shots still believe un such ideas to make any peaceful coexistence impossible for the foreseeable future. In the Third Reich only a rather small proportion of people were Nazis and that was sufficient to start WWII and commit the Holocaust. It suffices that among the Serbs (in Bosnia, in Serbia and abroad) just 20% harbor genocidal ideas about Bosniaks and Kosovars lihe that Jacob R. thet the Serb nation and people still pose a danger for the Bosiaks’ and Kosovo Albanians’ continued existence. If someone merits a violent death, or at least the thrashing of a lifetime it is this inhuman genocidal good-for nothing fecal fascist.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Someone who is pro-Assad is inhuman. End of line.

    • Bruno Coro Niembro

      A guy who is against Hamas and ISIL, supports Israel, but supports Assad? Decidely, you cannot be more grotesque as far as a human being goes.

    • Bruno Coro Niembro

      A stain in our history, among many others.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Well you act just like your masters in Belgrade. In my above comment I never ever talked about Serbs. Yet you came along and without provocation attacked me. Just like your masters in Belgrade did with us in 1992. Youre really a disgrace for mankind. Ah, if I only could suck that sorry excuse of a soul out of your body and destroy it…

    • Friend of Bosnia

      “neoliberal disaster capitalism”

      Bravo. That’s just great. Must save this one. Kudos to you for sharing.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Ah yes, that’s right.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Oh, I meant this Jacob character’s mendacity and cynicism, but that’s a common trait of all fascists, racists and islamophobes. That’s why I said it’s nothing new. On the subject of Bosnia-Herzegovina there are many excellent books available, not just on its recent bloody past, but about the people and the country too. Try “Bosnia, a Short History” by Noel Malcolm; or some of Dr. Marko Attila Hoare’s excellent works; and “Being Muslim the Bosnian Way” by Tone Bringa; then there is a collection of satirical short stories by Danijela Albrecht “Balkan Bittersweet” but I think it’s only published in German. Picture books are rare and mostly available in Bosnia-Herzegovina itself, but it’s really worth a visit, if you happen to be nearby. Enjoy your stay in Italy. It’s really a beautiful country to visit.

    • Mehdi

      That’s not my point, there is a difference between defending your family, house, land, country, and life in general when you are under threat. It’s important to do so. My point on high standards is about the many fascists who write provocative posts on the Internet, responding to them is important, but I’m just reminding you that you and your family are much better than them, and not let them get under your skin… That was all…

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Since fascists are the worst people in the world, not being a fascist is in itself but a small merit. And also, what good will it do me if they can smash me into the ground, and not the other way round? What good will it do me if they are allowed to spew their genocidal hate speech and my “J’accuse…!” is silenced? What good will it do me if they take away my homeland and turn me into a refugee and a beggar, if they don’t kill me outright, and are awarded their ill-gotten gains? What good will it do me to be the moral winner and the factual loser? What good will it do me if they have the last word, the better connections, the heavier armament, the more powerful backers? What good will it do me if they have all the might and I have none? What advice should I give my children if that’s the way the world is run, that might makes right? When even through hard work, dedication and application I’m not able to get me an acceptable position and income because that is reserved for those who have the better connections? Am I supposed to wait for the Hereafter?

    • Mehdi

      I have no doubt that you raised your children to high standards, unfortunately you will always find people in favor of what fascists perpetrated in Bosnia. But just remember you are (much) better than they are.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Give it a rest, will ya?

      Get out of here already you inhuman genocidal zionofascist cetnik redneck idiot twerp. You should be banished from here. You don’t deserve to walk this earth but I doubt even the devil in Hell would take you in. Indeed if you had any power you’d be worse than Hitler and Gengis Khan rolled into one. Fortunately for the world you don’t. And now go laugh your ass off. IDIOT.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Dear Ilisha,

      I know I should not bad-mouth somebody except for a very good reason and that I dould not use this or any other forum for my private war with anti-Muslim war propagandists like this Jacob R. Besides that it does not concern me alone.

      But the notion that I must share this Earth with such inhuman, cynic, despicable and evil individuals is sometimes just too much to bear.

      I have thought about it for quite a while now before putting fingers to keyboard. I do it with the greatest reluctance. Such things aren’t exactly new and unknown to you and to the public here. Yet I feel I can’t keep it to myself much longer. I have come across some of his wisdoms on

      http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/hearts-beat-in-kosovo-for-islamist-warriors

      and I would like you to see for yourself, and I’d be most grateful of you could give me your regarded opinion:

      QUOTE “Before the war, Sarajevo had a Serbian population of over 100, 000. Today that number is less than 10, 000. What do you call that?” UNQUOTE

      With which he implies that the Bosniaks murdered all those Serbs. When everybody could see that the Serb leadership ordered them to leave, to even dig up their dead from the graveyards, and burned the houses of those who refused to leave. Most Bosnian Serbs from Sarajevo (from the Grbavica quarter which was handed back to the Federacija after the Dayton armistice) just settled half a mile east in Eastern Sarajevo which is in “RS”.

      Another one

      QUOTE “You have no compassion for actual victims of genocide (Jews & Armenians most notably) if you are willing to throw around such a serious word so generously just to make a political point. You trivialize the word and insult actual victims of genocide.” UNQUOTE

      So, by calling the anti-Bosnin genocide what it is I insult the Jews and the Armenians. Genocide against Muslims does not exist. If you say that genocide was commited against Muslims you’re “trivializing the word and insulting the Jews and the Armenians”. Implication: Muslims are Nazis or as bad as Nazis. Need I say more?

      And

      “Serbs have been ethnically cleansed from Kosovo since 1945”

      Preposterous.

      He goes on at other places to deny the Srebrenica Genocide and instead accuses the Bosniaks of “murdering 3000 Serbs around Srebrenica”; and in another of his posts he candidly admits “The Serbs do not care for the Bosniaks but they wanted the land.” Elsewhere he proposes to ghettoize all Bosniaks within Sarajevo and make that an isolated city-state “outside the EU” and have the rest of Bosnia partitioned between Serbia and Croatia.

      I think the above examples show clearly and unmistakably what an evil and puerile nature such guys have. And with what cynicism, callousness and cruelty they approve of the death of tens of thousands, unspeakable suffering of hundred of thousands, loss of loved ones, of property, of memories, of irreplaceable cultural heritage, of the homeland, for millions. And to top that off they feel righteous and proud.

      I can’t of course know what relevance such individuals have for the geopolitical and geostrategic situation on the ground. I hope of course that it is negligible.

      But there are ideologues, politicians, military, industrial and criminal leaders with exactly the same ideas and their influence is unfortunately certainly not negligible.

      In any case, what they do to my nerves and my peace of mind is bad enough.

      That unprintable so-and-so has the nerve to come posting here to insult me. To insult the victims of anti-Muslim violence and ethnic cleansing.

      I pray that Allah swt give me patience not to get carried away whenever I read their propaganda garbage and poison, and the wit to ridicule them as they deserve.

      Because every time I read them I get the notion that if somebody talked to me, to my face like that and said such things – well, the most terrible things come to mind: slap his face until my hand is numb; punch his nose or bash it in with my forehead; to kick his backside (or the other side) as hard as I can; generally smash him into the ground; and finally stick him in an anthill. (Or her; there are enough women, or should I rather say witches with such ideas; unfortunately I’m rather slightly built. What should I do, get me a .45? Oh, oh, oh, I’m getting carried away again. Wa Allah. Sorry but those are the feelings I have for such individuals. I think it is human to have such feelings. I can’t love who hates me, and it’s no use to pretend, for reasons of Netiquette, that I don’t have such feelings. That I’m forbidden to comment on that Jacob’s vitriol on Balkaninsight for breaking the Netiquette, but he is allowed to go on spewing genocidal hate speech there shows just one thing: the hypocrisy and moral depravity of those who run that site.)

      I have said elsewhere that on news sites, genocidal anti-Muslim hate speech comments get up to ten times as much upvoets than more reasonable comments and that that’s due to the public being about 85% ignoramuses, simple-minded, narrow-minded, morally inferior individuals. “Forgive them, oh Lord, for they don’t know what they’re doing.” But they do know. They just shut their minds. The truth is out there for everyone to see who wants to see it. But they just don’t want to see it. That can’t be forgiven.

      Indeed, if my own son said something just half as bad I would throw him out of the house immediately just with the clothes on his back, disinherit and disown him and forbid him ever to approach me and my family on pain of being shot on the spot. Of course I’m confident that no child of mine will ever stand for inhuman ideas (and that includes trying to join up with IS like those two Bosnian teenage girls from Austria who went to Syria to marry IS fighters. How could they do it? Are they out of their minds – provided this story is true – Islamic custom forbids marriage without the parents’ permission. Wa Allah, fancy my daughter, who is now in her teenage years might get such ideas! Oh no, No, NO!!!)

      I ask for your comprehension. I’m not a jihadist, I’m not a Bosniak ultranationalist (there are no such). I just pursue the cause of humanity and mutual respect but I think that those with fascist ideas of racial and religious purity, which can be established only through massive crimes, acts of violence, terror and genocide, do not deserve to walk this Earth. They live like mad dogs and shoudl be treated like mad dogs. In fact they are worse than a mad dog because they know full well what they are doing. Therefore it is also unlikely that God would forgive them and even if He did, I never could.

      Thank you for your patience and understanding.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Well I got more upvotes than you so I must be saying something right.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Yes, I took keen interest since I was a kid, because I visited the great monumemnts of Muslim Spain, and I always wonderdd where those people haqd gone, so I strated illustrating myself, and what I saw didn’t make a pretty picture at all. Then I saw the exactly same thing being done to Bosniaks.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      So it is. In view that during WWII many Bosniaks and Kosovo Albanians saved Jews from the Holocaust, at great risk to their own lives, I find this attitude particularly ungrateful and offensive.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      And neither do I.

    • Bruno Coro Niembro

      Indeed, due to ambiental factors, it seems some strains of the already grotesque species known as Serbian Fascists have mutated, after exposure to the equally aberrant species known as Zionazis into new, particularly reviling forms of life: Serbian fascists supporters of Israel; the contrary happened as well:

      http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/182911#.VDFVLbxO7IU

      http://www.croatianhistory.net/etf/isr3.html

      “As Yosed Lapid memorably put it, we must give the Serbs all the sympathy and support we can,`no matter what they might do’.”

  • Bruno Coro Niembro

    FOB, you seem to know much about Spain and its history, more than many Spaniards

Radical Right Wing Christians Who Supported the Iraq War Want to Convert, Deport and Kill Muslims

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By Garibaldi

Right Wing Watch recently brought to our attention the Christian dominionist, Gary Cass’ call for Holy War against Muslims, in an article titled, “I’m Islamaphobic, Are You?” Cass is a former San Diego GOP official and founder of the organization “Defend Christians: A Ministry of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission.

Cass’ article was originally published on the website of the popular Evangelical Christian magazine, Charisma. The article was pulled down without any apology or note as to why it was published in the first place or why it was subsequently pulled; it is still proudly displayed on Cass’ website.

Many Christian writers and commenters were deeply offended by the bellicose religious hatred and call to violence in the article, deeming it “Anti-Christ.” A minority of Christians however supported the article as can be witnessed in the comment section to Cass’ article.

Cass writes in racialist terms about Muslims, stating for instance that the “vicious seed of Ishmael” must be “crushed.” This characterization of Muslims is based on a particular interpretation of Genesis 16:11-12 that some Christians such as former Florida congressman Allen West have forwarded about Islam, Arabs and Muslims.

Cass says that what ISIS is doing is real Islam and we should thank them for their actions, which is the same vile view propagated by the likes of Deacon Robert Spencer.

ISIS (sic) is doing to America journalists what every true follower of Mohammed wants to do to you and yours; subjugate or murder you. They believe they have been given a mandate by Allah (Satan) to dominate the world.

Cass proposes three possible “solutions” and in fact only one “real solution.”:

1.) Conversion: Wouldn’t it be wonderful to see Muslims turn from Satan (Allah) to Christ? But, I agree with Phil Robertson, this is not biblically doable. Why? God has a plan and he revealed it at the birth of Ishmael, the father of the Arabs. “The Angel of the Lord said….He [Ishmael] will be an ass of a man; His hand shall be against every man, and every man’s hand against him…” (Genesis 16:11,12) The Arab Muslims are God’s sworn enemies and are ordained by God to be against everyone. That’s not to say there will not be a small percentage of Muslims who will be saved by faith in Christ. But, even if they escape with their lives after “apostatizing” from Islam, their influence will be negligible. History does not record a mighty move of God in saving masses of Muslims. I believe the scriptures militate against mass Muslim conversions.

2.) D.A.M.N.: Depart All Muslims Now. Deport them like Spain was forced to do when they deported the Muslim Moors. Muslims in America are procreating at twice the rate of other groups. So, either we force them all to get sterilized, or we wait for the “Army of Islam” to arise in our midst and do what Muslims always do, resort to violence. Just see what they are doing in France, Britain and Scandinavia. Fat chance our politicians will do anything until its too late, unless, of course, “We the People” demand otherwise. But, history shows America is always late to the fight. Or, we can do what most Americans are doing, wishfully think we are the exception and Muslims will all of a sudden change and want to co-exist. This is irrational and stupid, but it makes life more tolerable. Knowing that every Mosque in America is conspiring to kill you and yours is terrifying.

3.) Violence: The only thing that is biblical and that 1400 years of history has shown to work is overwhelming Christian just war and overwhelming self defense. Christian Generals Charles Martel in 732 and Jon Sobieski in 1672 defeated Islamic Turks and their attempts to take the West. Who will God raise up to save us this time? Will God even intervene or turn us over to the Muslims for turning against Him?

Cass is right about one thing, Muslims are not about to leave Islam for Christianity despite centuries of bloody effort by various Christian kings and states.

There isn’t much need to highlight the self-evident warped and repugnant nature of the American-Christian-kill-Muslims-brigade. The vast majority of American Christians reject them as imbeciles and I would agree with them that such Christians are in fact “Anti-Christ.”

One fact I want to expose and stress however is the canard that violence in the name of Christianity is a thing of the past. This idea is not only prevalent among Christians but is also propagated by Ex-Christians such as Bill Maher who was recently on Charlie Rose propagating this idea.

Lest anyone forget, there was a whole machine of fervent, zealous Christians who practically worshiped President George W. Bush and were shouting “Halleluja!” and “Glory to Christ!” when he announced that the USA was going to invade Iraq in 2003.

Iraq had zero Alqaeda influence or presence prior to the 2003 invasion. The status of Christians was good, they weren’t a persecuted minority, whereas today the situation is a catastrophe. The pastors, Christian writers and officials who supported and prayed for that war are implicated in the destruction of Iraq and the creation of ISIS.

Gary Cass, who now calls for converting, deporting and killing Muslims is one such hypocrite who is responsible for the creation of ISIS and the destruction of Iraq.

In 2007, Cass was on CNN where he was asked by host Roland Martin, “how would Jesus vote on the war in Iraq?”

According to Cass, Jesus would be all for the Iraq war since it would liberate “his people.”

CASS: Well, I absolutely believe the Republican position is the right one. Self-defense is a duty we all owe to ourselves, our families and our neighbor. And it’s the first duty of government. A strong defense is essential. The Iraq war was justified on the basis of the intelligence that we had at the time. So, self-defense and liberating those under tyranny are Christian virtues just as Christ defends and liberates his people.

Any Christian who supported the invasion of Iraq and now complains about ISIS should be shamed in public and exposed for all to see.  As for Gary Cass, he may be nothing but hot air but he exposes a virulent extremist and radical element that is flourishing on the Christian right.

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    • ChristianfoHellfire

      Iraq live in peace before united terrorist of america attack them. saddam hussein has been killed because he not agree with this united terrorist

    • ChristianfoHellfire

      Christian is religion of war,rape,drunk,drug,gamble,racism,hatred,selfish,They have the pure of evil. They kill anyone who refuses to convert to Christianity in the Philippines during the colonial era.

    • I also applaud you. I have great admiration for people who have more patience and less anger than I (though I am always working on it, astaghfirullah). If some of my relatives were friends of mine instead of kinsmen, I would have given them what-for long ago instead of being diplomatic.

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      Nay. I shall first extend the olive branch and if he does not accept then and only then shall the land descend into a maelstrom of chaos and war.

    • Reynardine

      Idols can perish; a real God cannot. Idols can have enemies; a real God cannot. The existence and nature of an idol can be proven or disproven; that of a real God is so far beyond human comprehension that we can do neither.

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      I shall adopt him as my child.

    • I think it’s some kind of sihr or jadoo. Or maybe seidhr… I tried it and failed spectacularly, making an entire paragraph bold.

Army rabbi exhorted “God’s army” before they massacred Palestinians in Shujaiya

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Army rabbi exhorted “God’s army” before they massacred Palestinians in Shujaiya

By Ben White (Electronic Intifada)

Prominent settler and former Israeli army chief rabbi Avichai Rontzki delivered a “messianic, fiery speech” to Israeli forces prior to the devastating massacre of the Gaza City neighborhood of Shujaiya, it was revealed today.

An account of the speech appears in a new piece by Nahum Barnea, a prominent journalist at Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth, and is based on remarks made by a soldier present at the time.

The soldier related that before their invasion of Shujaiya, troops were gathered to “listen to the words” of Rontzki, who “praised the miracle of God’s army.” According to an article last week in Kipa, a religious-Zionist oriented news site, Rontzki has been performing reserve duty and “encouraging the combatants on the ground.”

The Electronic Intifada has already reported on the phenomenon of groups of Jewish mystics offering support to the Israeli forces currently shelling Gaza, as well as the Israeli army commander who declared “holy war” on Palestinians.

“Damned”

The anonymous soldier in Barnea’s article also recounts a similar event prior to the Shujaiya massacre:

We got close to Kibbutz Nahal Oz and then they gathered us together. You know how it is in the army – when told to gather, you gather. Waiting for us was a bunch of Breslev Hasidic Jews singing “Messiah, Messiah,” dancing and bouncing around. We formed a circle around them, and a bunch of fighters danced with them in ecstasy

Israel’s ground assault on the Gaza Strip began late on Thursday 17 July, with tanks receiving orders “to open fire at anything that moved.”  Over the next few days, the Shujaiya district of Gaza City was subjected to intense and indiscriminate bombardment, including 600 shells fired by an artillery battalion and 100 one-ton bombs dropped from the air.

Rontzki’s speech to Israeli soldiers recalls his time as Israeli army chief rabbi, when, in 2009, he told religious students that troops who “show mercy” towards the enemy in wartime will be “damned.” During Israel’s so-called “Operation Cast Lead” massacre in 2008-09, the army rabbinate under his leadership distributed inflammatory publications that referred to the massacre as “a war on murderers.”

Rontzki was one of the founding members of Itamar, a fanatical Israeli settlement colony near Nablus, where has also led a yeshiva, or religious seminary.

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    • YOU REBEL SCUM

      Theres something deeply unsettling about clergy in uniform, like knights templar warrior monks they revel in the supernatural when dealing with something very real!

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Serb Orthodox priests blessed the executioners of Srebrenica. So what else is new?

    • Mehdi

      Agreed, reynardine, please stay

    • Reynardine

      We are supposed to be. I have left the forum; owing to Disqus, I nonetheless find myself pursued by abuse and low colloquy. At this point, I ask not to be spoken to at all.

    • GaribaldiOfLoonwatch

      Reynardine, you’re always welcome here. I don’t take your telling me “screw you” personally. This whole thing appears to have been set off by a misunderstanding that devolved. Your shots at Ilisha were out of character to me and unwarranted.

      You’ve made valuable comments here and have been around for quite some time, it would be sad to see you leave the discussion! I hope we all can just agree to disagree, there’s been enough heat and enough light shed on the subject.

      I personally think both points of view have solid arguments. It’s strange that we agree on 99% of things but something like this can drive us apart. We’re all supposed to be fighting bigotry here.

    • Reynardine

      I tried to. Screw you.

    • GaribaldiOfLoonwatch

      This is uncalled for Reynardine. Really? Why not just agree to disagree on this topic.

    • Reynardine

      After a while, maybe.

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      I honestly am really confused by how quickly this all escalated.

      If you have to leave, perhaps you’ll consider coming back in the future?

    • Reynardine

      Hskol has it, too.

    • Reynardine

      Sorry, young blood, I must.

      I took my account private, but sometimes you can find me on Hatewatch. That Bosnian guy also has my Facebook email. Ask him to give it to you.

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      Ah yes, so it was. As a Brit, I always think 9/11 means 9th November….

      Anyway, a halal and non alcoholic toast to destroying bigots everywhere!

    • Mehdi

      That’s because it was just after 911 and I remember how fun it was and how rejoicing it feels when you destroy a bigot.

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      I do remember wiping the floor with an idiot in October 2001, It must have been quite a glorious incident if you can still remember the month and year 13 years on. XD

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      Please don’t leave, Reynardine.

    • Mehdi

      One good way of handling this is to ask for specific examples and debunk them one by one. I do remember wiping the floor with an idiot in October 2001, he started coming to me about the fact that Islam had blood written all over its history, and as I debunked each of his examples the debate shifted, I’m happy not to have first reacted out of anger. So think about that approach, it seems to me that your friends don’t want to annoy you per se, they either don’t really know or have limited views, if they are honest, you should be able to talk this through.

    • Mehdi

      In that case you should be able to debate while disagreeing on some issues, you are a smart guy and I’m sure you wil be able to discuss with your friends and advance, as long as there is mutual respect. What a dull world we would live in if we all saw things the same way.

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      I just want to point out that I don’t believe that my friends (or the rest of my classmates for that matter) say these things out of spite, I think they honestly do believe what they say. That doesn’t change the fact that I think it’s self righteous and deluded tosh but it also doesn’t change the fact that they are all, in general, decent human beings who I get along well with.

Documentary: FBI “Informants”

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“As of 2008 the FBI had a roster of at least fifteen thousand informants–the number was disclosed in a budget authorization request that year for the $12.7 million needed to pay for software to track and manage them. The proportion who are assigned to infiltrate Muslim communities in the United States is unknown but likely to be substantial, given the the FBI’s prioritization of counterterrorism and its analysis of radicalization. There are also thought to be three tims as many unofficial community sources of information, known as ‘hip pockets.’” (Kundnani, Arun., “The Muslims Are Coming!,” p.198)

AlJazeera English: “Informants”

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    • Friend of Bosnia

      Oh yes. I of all people should know.

      And more and more I’m getting the impression that a part of the elites and leadership in the USA are just mentally sick, paranoid, driven by hysteria, cynicism and cold-hearted inhumanity. How far removed this is from the Four Freedoms that FDR once postulated… Maybe all this Islamophobia and the associated impending totalitarianism is due to the influence of Zionists. I mean they themselves say it. They admit that the “tail is wagging the dog”. btw. fortunately this is not the case with Russia and Serbia. Israel may be wagging the USA but Serbia is not wagging Russia.

      The famous Israeli humorist Ephraim Kishon once said: “The name of the MAPAI (a prdeecessor or part of the Likud) party simply means ‘Monolithic Alliance, Parters America-Israel”. I have read many of his articles and I still don’t know what to make of him. Often he wrote disparaging things about the Arfabs and the Arab Jews. Was he actually disparaging them or was he just making fun at the arrogant attitudes of (Ashkenazi) Jews against them? Unfortunately we no longer can ask him. Certainly he was no friend of Muslims. But he realized over time that they can’t live forever in a state of war.

    • GaribaldiOfLoonwatch

      He’s an informant.

    • John Smith

      “I will be back Habibi”

    • GaribaldiOfLoonwatch

      I hope to interview the author of “The Muslims Are Coming!” It’s an excellent work and draws the exact same parallels to COINTELPRO and other acts by the government to undermine minorities and leftist organizations.

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      Have yet to watch the video but the guy with the keffiyeh and sunglasses looks fabulous.

    • mindy1

      If you ask people to look for trouble they will find it if they have to..

    • Amie

      Reminds me of the former Yugoslavian activities: the communist Yugoslav regime had a secret service called UDBA. They used informants to infiltrate communities, including churches, mosques and synagogues. Thousands people deemed a threat disappeared and were never seen again. It sounds like the U.S. is on the same track. Many born Muslims are naive when they think that suddenly after 9/11 thousands are converting to Islam. Maybe there are some honest people who are doing that, but I have personally always suspected that many of those new converts are informants. I just don’t know what they got to spy on in mosques. Mosques are places of worship and people are there for religious reasons.

    • JD

      COINTELPRO ( COunter INTELligence PROgram) 2.0 creating trust in the community since 1950’s

The Jews Are Helping Muslims Take Over The West

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By Garibaldi

One often hears Islamophobes in the “counterjihad” movement claiming to be defenders of the “Judeo-Christian” West against the spread of Islam and the enfranchisement of Muslims in Western democracies. The term Judeo-Christian gained currency in the middle of the 20th century,

“promoted by groups which evolved into the National Conference of Christians and Jews, to fight antisemitism by expressing a more inclusive idea of American values rather than just Christian or Protestant.”

Ironically, in the past several decades and especially since 9/11, Judeo-Christian has most often been used by the rightwing to exclude differing religions and cultures from staking their own claim to Americanness, specifically, to amplify the so-called “Islamic threat.”

The rightwing considers America’s “uniqueness” to be rooted in its Judeo-Christian values. Take radio host Dennis Prager, who writes,

[o]nly America has called itself Judeo-Christian. America is also unique in that it has always combined secular government with a society based on religious values. Along with the belief in liberty—as opposed to, for example, the European belief in equality, the Muslim belief in theocracy, and the Eastern belief in social conformity—Judeo-Christian values are what distinguish America from all other countries.

The claims about “European,” “Muslim,” and “Eastern” societies are simplistic generalizations but there is some truth to Prager’s claim that “only America has called itself Judeo-Christian,” in so far as the USA is where Judeo-Christianism was born. If one can speak in such broad terms at all of an alliance/unity between Jews and Christians it is relatively recent; only 70 years out of the past 2,000 years.

A different kind of alliance

A recent article published on Loonwatch about the Spanish government’s commitment to give descendants of Sephardic Jews expelled over 500 years ago from Andalus automatic citizenship brought to mind the longer and deeper history of Jewish and Muslim collaboration.

The history of Jewish-Muslim alliance has led some scholars to the interesting thesis that the roots of medieval European Christian anti-Semitism was rooted not in charges of deicide (Jews killed Jesus) against Jews but in their alliance and collaboration with Muslims.

In Allan Harris Cutler and Helen Elmquist Cutler’s book, “The Jews as Ally of the Muslim,” the authors,

[R]evise the traditional explanations of the roots of anti-Semitism. They contend that the great outburst of anti-Semitism in Western Europe during the Middle Ages … derived from primarily anti-Muslimism and the association of Jew with Muslim.

Islamophobe Daniel Pipes, in one of his less bellicose and polemical articles wrote a review of the book in 1987 that is worth reading, concluding that “it offers an intriguing and ultimately convincing argument.” Though he takes exception to the authors’ advice to Pope John Paul II to “transform his office and mission from a more narrowly Christian into a broadly Abrahamic one . . . to create a new spiritual and institutional unity between Jews, Christians, and Muslims.”

Among certain nationalists and White Power currents in the “counterjihad” there is a continuation of the idea that Jews are allying with Muslims to help them take over the West, just as Jews aided Muslims in conquering Hispania from Visigoth tyranny.

In the view of these counterjihadists Jewish intellectuals have opened the gates of fortified Europe and America through modern day liberalism. Hence, their usage of “Leftist” in the familiar Islamophobic expression, “Leftist-Muslim alliance to destroy the West,” is a P.C. way to refer to Jews. “Leftist” masks an undercurrent of antiSemitism, since in their view Jew=Leftist.

The website Islam Versus Europe: Where Islam Spreads, Freedom Dies, did a three part series titled, “Jewish collaboration with Muslims during the invasion of Spain” by Cheradnine Zakalwe. The website has a global Alexa ranking of 703,552 and a US ranking of 262,275.

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IslamVersusEurope is considered by other “counterjihadists” to be a “respected CounterJihad blog” and is linked and blogrolled on numerous Islamophobic sites. The site has also been approvingly linked by Deacon Robert Spencer even after Zakalwe’s series of articles. (Not surprising considering Spencer’s alliance with antiSemites such as Eric Allen Bell and the anti-Jewish stances of his ally Pamela Geller).

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The main point of Zakalwe’s three part series is summed up in his first post,

So the Jews in Spain were enslaving European Christians. This provoked the irritation of other European Christians, who then took measures against the Jews. This caused the Jews to reach out to their fellow Jews abroad and to the Arabs, urging them to invade Spain and bring this Christian oppression to an end. When they did so, the Jews eagerly collaborated with the Muslims, acting as administrators for the conquered cities and realm.

The parallels with our own time are striking, with Jewish intellectuals having paved the way for the modern Muslim conquest by pushing the benefits of immigration, diversity, tolerance, special minority protection, etc., denigrating nationalism and wielding the Nazi stick forcefully against anyone bold enough to dissent. (Emphasis mine)

These views are not limited to Zakalwe but can also be found on unabashedly racist and Islamophobic sites like Occidental Dissent and Occidental Observer.

The truth is that yes, there was a long history of collaboration and affinity between Muslims and Jews which fueled animosity on the part of European Christendom. Pipes in his review of the Cutlers’ study even notes,

[T]he Hebrew language shares much with Arabic, and Judaism shares much with Islam; on the most abstract level, both are religions of law, while Christianity is a religion of faith. More specifically, they share many features such as circumcision, dietary regulations, and similar sexual codes. Further, because the Muslims were preeminent in the medieval centuries, “Jews themselves associated Jew with Muslim.” When this became known among the Christians, it much harmed the Jews’ position. Most damaging of all, Jews on occasion helped Muslim troops against Christians (as in the initial Arab conquest of Spain) and some Jews held prominent positions in Muslim governments at war with the Christians. Even when they did not actually take part in the fighting, “Jews usually rejoiced when Christian territory fell into Islamic hands.”

Mattai and Pope Alexander

Mattai and Pope Alexander

While there were great similarities and affinities, it must be pointed out that it is only logical that Jews would ally with those who would treat them better and with whom relations would be more advantageous. If medieval European Christians were offering less discrimination and interference in religious, family and financial life than Muslims then certainly Jews would have collaborated with Christians more than Muslims. In other words one cannot discount the importance of community interests, foremost survival as the motivation for such alliances.

This was driven home to me while watching the third season of Showtime’s historical drama, The Borigas. In one of the episodes, the leader of the Jewish community, Mattai meets with Pope Alexander,

Mattai meets with Alexander and tells him the whole Turkish navy could be burned to the waves with oil. He proposes stuffing some ships with oil for Ramadan and sending them over there just in time to berth for the holy month. Once they’re there, Mattai’s connections will set them alight. That’s if Alexander issues a papal bull that eases up on the taxes on the Jews in Rome. Alexander moans that he asks for a great deal, but Mattai refuses to back down, and even gives Alexander a bit of lip…He says he needs money to buy all this oil, and Alexander says that he’ll issue the bull if Mattai can ensure the success of this scheme.

Alexander meets with Mattai, Cardinal Sforza, and a few others. Mattai tells him the ships loaded with oil are already docked and the conflagration may have already happened.

In Constantinople, oil leaking out over the water is set alight, swiftly engulfing the anchored ships.

Back in Rome, Alexander sits and signs the papal bull, while in Constantinople, the ships explode and sailors flee for their lives. In a fantastic long shot, we see the entire fleet from a distance, burning away.

While the actual historicity of these events are dubious and likely never occurred, it highlights the reasons and motivations that guide communities. Jews who aided Muslims in Spain did so not primarily because both Muslims and Jews circumcise males or eschew pork but rather because they trusted that they would have a better and freer life.

The “counterjihadists” know that “perfidious” Jews aren’t opening up the gates to Muslim hordes. It is no longer the 14th century, there isn’t a “Christendom,” let alone a “Caliphate.” Many Christians are united alongside Muslims and Jews and others to make society and the world better, that is what the interfaith movement is all about.

Opening our doors to the stranger, seeing the image of G-d in our fellow human being and their inherent dignity should not be the opposite of our values but the very core of what we struggle to achieve and become.

This however is appeasement to the paranoid and conspiratorial “counterjihadists,” who in the place of our multi-faith and multi-cultural reality want to take us back to an unrealistic mono-faith, mono-cultural world.

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    • Lea

      True, Europe should have learned the lesson with the Jewish immigration and demographic jihad already. This time though it may be possible to sort the problem out before it turns into a war, if sane people prevail.

    • Lea

      To call Pamela Geller anti-Jew and to aver that Jews are treated better by muslims than Christians is a obvious pro muslim lie. Jews welcomed the muslims when they attacked Jerusalem, and even helped to murder Christians. Jews were not oppressed by the Christians but for the Christian belief in Jesus Christ as the Messiah, the Son of God, which inspires hatred of the Jew for the Christian. It is not about just pork and circumcision, it is about Jesus Christ, the Babylon Talmud proves this. Furthermore, it is well known already that the profit of islam was tutored by Jews, it may well be that there were some Talmudic Jews who attempted to deliberately create a new religion to attack Christianity, but not all the Jews were willing to accept mohd as their messiah, and this infuriated him, so he got his allah to say that Jews were pigs and monkeys, and then proceeded to war on them too. So, it is a real irony that today the muslims kill the Jews wherever they find them and constantly declare total jihad on Israel, yet the Jews still think that the muslims are their allies, and it is only because of Jesus Christ.

    • El Cid

      You are welcome. Hard generous work is always appreciated.

    • El Cid

      They always do. Point well taken.

    • GaribaldiOfLoonwatch

      Thanks.

    • Lithium2006

      Never said it was a victory, just mentioned how Islamphobes were going to start twisting this about the government or company appeasing Islam.

  • The greenmantle

    Good because they throw a really mean huff if they are not mentioned

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