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Robert Spencer, is the Pope a Dhimmi?

Over a week ago the Fiqh Council of North America, which is a council of Islamic scholars who give religious opinions said that Body Scanners (Nude-Scanners) violate the requirements of  modesty and respect for human dignity and were,

against the teachings of Islam, natural law and all religions and cultures that stand for decency and modesty.

This is a respectable position since the objectives of the body scanner can be achieved through a pat-down by an officer of the same sex. When the Council came out with the verdict it was big news with the usual culprits on Fox News saying, ‘here go Muslims again trying to get special treatment.’ Robert Spencer in fact commented that Muslims were seeking special treatment, and implied that the council was just up to some taqiyyah. His commenters and followers weren’t as ‘civil,’ one commenter stated that we should break out a shotgun on Muslims, another said Muslims should go back to riding ‘camels’ if they don’t like scanners, and other bile filled racism.

How ’bout this?

We stand them all in a line out in front of God and everybody and one-by-one break open like a shotgun each and every Muslim and Muslima who wants to get on any sort of mass transportation device and look until we find that for which we are searching.

And anyone who bitches about it goes through thrice.

Then there is this genius,

Too obvious – let ’em saddle up the ol’ camels then.

Yet another reason for a new airline: “No-Mo Air” – they’ll serve pork rinds rather than chips, etc.

Then there is this comment from Vee who seems to think that only Muslims oppose body scanners,

Where are all the Catholic nuns protesting body scanners?

They are out there, right?

Well you’re in luck Vee because it seems not only are nuns protesting body scanners but the Pope himself opposes them. I’m sure Catholic Robert Spencer will just call him a Dhimmi, right?

The head of the Roman Catholic Church spoke out against the use of body scanners at airports, saying human dignity must be preserved even as countries attempt to protect their citizens against acts of terrorism.

Pope Benedict XVI , making his comments during an audience with airport workers and officials at the Vatican on Sunday, did not specifically use the words body scanner in his address, according to reports in U.K. newspapers the Daily Telegraph and the Guardian.

But he said that even when facing the threat of terrorism, airport security officials should not forget to respect “the primacy of the human person.”

“[With] every action, it is above all essential to protect and value the human person in their integrity,” he told the representatives from the aviation industry.

The United States began using the scanners capable of detecting items hidden under clothing at airports as part of new security protocols put in place in the wake of the failed bombing attempt on a flight from Amsterdam to Detroit on Christmas Day.

Canada and European countries have followed suit and begun installing their own scanners, particularly for flights destined for the United States.

The Pope is not the first religious leader to speak out against the scanners.
Muslims urged to choose pat-down over scanner

The Fiqh Council of North America, an Islamic group with membership in Canada and the United States, said earlier in February it believed the body scanners were “against the teachings of Islam, natural law and all religions and cultures that stand for decency and modesty.”

The group urged Muslim travellers to choose to be patted down by airport security rather than go through the scanners.

Canada is in the process of installing 44 scanners to be used on U.S.-bound passengers selected for secondary screening at Canadian airports.

The Canadian Air Transport Security Authority has said the scanners would protect the privacy of the passenger, and that the officer viewing the image would do so in a separate room and never see the actual traveller.

The focus on security measures stems from the failed attempt by a Nigerian man to set off a bomb on a Detroit-bound flight on Christmas Day.

Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, 23, is accused of trying to ignite the bomb on the Northwest Airlines flight. Officials said he has told U.S. investigators he received training and instructions from al-Qaeda operatives in Yemen.

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  • Muhammad Elijah

    His argument is always “turn THEM into dhimmis before they do it to us!”

    Very great argument. But there is a subtle point involved. The statement implicitly uses the word dhimmi in the sense of the dhimmi of medieval imagination.

    The more precise statement would be:

    His argument is always “turn THEM into dhimmis of our own medieval imagination before our compatriots fall in love with Islam!”

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  • Muhammad Elijah

    His argument is always “turn THEM into dhimmis before they do it to us!”

    Very great argument. But there is a subtle point involved. The statement implicitly uses the word dhimmi in the sense of the dhimmi of medieval imagination.

    The more precise statement would be:

    His argument is always “turn THEM into dhimmis of our own medieval imagination before our compatriots fall in love with Islam!”

  • Hassan

    To clarify that last statement: Europe wasn’t free of Muslim influence because they defeated invading armies, but because they persecuted and evicted any Muslims who wandered too far west. It’s European bigotry that’s always been the problem.

  • Hassan

    Spencer’s cries of Dhimmi are typical, thousand-year-old anti-Islamic drivel. If he had his way we’d be monitored, our numbers would be diminished, and our clothing, religious beliefs, political opinions, and sermons would be dictated by the government. Our mosques wouldn’t have minarets and we’d be unable to run for office.

    Just what does Spencer think this distopian vision makes Muslims? That’s right, “Dhimmis”, or at least the “Dhimmis” of his imagination. His argument is always “turn THEM into dhimmis before they do it to us!” and that’s what Christendom has been doing for over a millennium.

    Throughout history, European leaders have warned their people of fanatical Muslims forcing them to convert or die. And their solution was always to hunt Muslims down and either convert or kill them. Europe isn’t facing it’s first waves of Muslim immigration because they fought Muslims off before, but because they killed previous waves before they could set up a ghetto.

  • Larry

    Why can’t he ever disagree with out bringing up “dhimmis?” I mean I’m for the use of the full body scanners, I disagree with the Fiqh council and the Pope in that flying isn’t a right, and that this is for our security, but I’d frame the argument that way, and not even put the word dhimmi in it. If his arguments are strong then he should be able to support them without the distracting antics.

  • Imad

    OMG I hate the way he calls people dhimmis and anti dhimmis. If people STILL think he isn’t a bigot or just a major idiot, this dhimmi thing is probably the most damning evidence, that Muslims are all gonna take over the west without guns. Obama is dhimmi of the year, even though he sent 30,000 troops to Afghanistan. Now THATS very pro Muslim, isn’t it? And the anti dhimmi of the year is geert wilders. What did he do to earn such a (not so) prestigious award? He made a hate film, insulted Islam in propaganda-like hatred, and this is supposed to be “criticism” that Muslims are supposed to suck up but we can’t take because Muslims are wimps sensitive to criticism (and these stoopid extremist responses are only fueling that). So suddenly when Muslims practice their right to sue, it’s an attack on freedom of speech! Not hate speech.

  • Ustadh

    I think some airports said they will implement it, but I think it is still being debated in the US.

  • Leonora

    It doesn’t look like Vee was saying it’s only Muslims. Where do they use these nude scanners? I know the U.S. uses scanners but it’s not nude!

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