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“Racism Originated in the Torah” say Israeli Rabbis

Racism from high ranking Rabbis across Israel who are stating that racism is a part of Judaism and Jews shouldn’t rent apartments to Arabs. Imagine if they were Muslim?

We must also take note of those voices speaking out against such rhetoric and pronouncements because many are opposed to the language used by these Rabbis.

Top rabbis move to forbid renting homes to Arabs, say ‘Israel belongs to Jews’

(Haaretz)

A number of leading rabbis who signed on to a religious ruling to forbid renting homes to gentiles – a move particularly aimed against Arabs – defended their decision on Tuesday with the declaration that the land of Israel belongs to the Jews.

Dozens of Israel’s municipal chief rabbis signed on to the ruling, which comes just months after the chief rabbi of Safed initiated a call urging Jews to refrain from renting or selling apartments to non-Jews.

Signatories include the chief rabbis of Ramat Hasharon, Ashdod, Kiryat Gat, Rishon Letzion, Carmiel, Gadera, Afula, Nahariya, Herzliya, Nahariya and Pardes Hannah, among a number of other cities.

“We don’t need to help Arabs set down roots in Israel,” Rabbi Shlomo Aviner of the Beit El settlement, said on Tuesday. Aviner explained that he supported the move for two reasons: one, a Jew looking for an apartment should get preference over a gentile; and two, to keep the growing Arab population from settling too deeply.

“Racism originated in the Torah,” said Rabbi Yosef Scheinen, who heads the Ashdod Yeshiva. “The land of Israel is designated for the people of Israel. This is what the Holy One Blessed Be He intended and that is what the [sage] Rashi interpreted.”

He added that he did not see the move as racist so much as segregationist. “The world is so big and the State of Israel is small, that God intended it for the people of Israel and the whole world covets it. That is the injustice.”

Upon news of the religious ruling, Meretz faction whip Ilan Ghilon immediately asked the attorney general to dismiss each of the rabbis who had signed their names.

“We are witnessing an epidemic of racism and xenophobia and we must act firmly,” he said.

Deputy Knesset chairman MK Ahmed Tibi decried the letter as a “mass crime [committed] by a group of racist rabbis who should be given intensive course in Jewish history.”

The entire group should be tried for “incitement to racism,” added Tibi, “Muslim clerics have recently been tried or fired from their jobs for much less but the rabbis are able to pursue their unruly behavior without concern.

Haifa Mayor Yonah Yahav termed the ruling the “real desecration of God’s name. It is bringing hatred against those with whom we have chosen to live our lives.”

Nazareth Mayor Ramiz Jaraisy also decried the moving, declaring that “whoever thinks it damages one side is mistaken. We are all children of the land. Both nations must search for common ground and not bring about escalation.”

In their ruling, the rabbis called on the religious community to voice support Safed Chief Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, who could face trial for incitement against Arabs for initiating the move against renting to gentiles.

Minority Affairs Minister Avishay Braverman has also asked Justice Minister Yaakov Neeman to begin the process of suspending Eliyahu immediately from his post as municipal rabbi.

Politicos from the national religious sector believe that the mass of prominent figures who signed on to the ruling – all of whose salaries are paid by public funds – will send a message to the attorney general to take Eliyahu’s position seriously.

The rabbis’ letter prompted by Eliyahu, which was first published months ago and reprinted in October, urges Jewish owners of apartments to reconsider renting their properties to Arabs since it would deflate the value of their homes as well as those in the neighborhood.

“Their way of life is different than that of Jews,” the letter stated. “Among [the gentiles] are those who are bitter and hateful toward us and who meddle into our lives to the point where they are a danger.”

The rabbis also urge neighbors of anyone renting or selling property to Arabs to caution that person. After delivering the warning, the neighbor is then encouraged to issue notices to the general public and inform the community.

“The neighbors and acquaintances [of a Jew who sells or rents to an Arab] must distance themselves from the Jew, refrain from doing business with him, deny him the right to read from the Torah, and similarly [ostracize] him until he goes back on this harmful deed,” the letter reads.

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  • Mosizzle

    “I WOULDn’t reason with you, i would kick the shit out of you…”

    Woah. Calm down man. No need to make death threats. That should be deleted before Spencer uses that one comment to make it seem like Loonwatch is a hate site. He’s done it before, he’ll do it again.

    But seriously, chill out.

  • And they accuse Muslims of being misogynists..

  • Farlowe

    Stallion , why don’t you say what you really think….

  • stallion

    what funny is that the bitch (bmd) didn’t say that she’d assumed that i took the list from anti islamic website, she said I DID copy n paste the list from an anti islamic website and then provided the readers here a link to the anti islamic website.

  • stallion

    beautiful muslim doll reminds me of a bitch who likes to make lots of assumption. a few months back i posted from a jewish website similarities between islam and judaism, the bitch (bmd) assumed that i stole the list from an anti islamic website. i would kick the shit out of bmd aswell

  • stallion

    “On the other hand, we see the Koran calls on Muslims to steal a place of worship that was currently in use by Arab polytheists and convert it to a Maasjid.

    That’s theft and it’s a war crime.”

    I WOULDn’t reason with you, i would kick the shit out of you then kill you.

  • stallion

    According to biblical accounts, ancestors of the Israelites had voluntarily LEFT Canaan over four centuries earlier (Genesis 46), so any claims that they had to the land would have been dubious indeed.

    december 10th i quoted ex- christian Farrell Till

    The land on which all homes in the United States now sit was once occupied by native Americans, some of whose descendants are PRESENTLY MAKING DEMANDS that this land be given to them. Those demands are both unrealistic and unfair, because the wrongs that were admittedly done to ancestral native Americans were perpetrated in most cases CENTURIES AGO by people no longer living, so why should the present owners of this land, who may themselves be unrelated to those who took it, be penalized for what early European settlers did to native Americans ancestors, who themselves had very likely driven away predecessor tribes in order to acquire the land they are now claiming should be theirs? Should we try to determine who the very first occupants of any given tract of land were and then look for descendants and let them have the land despite the investments in time, work, and money that the present owners may have put into making improvements on the land? Mr. Miller can go anywhere in the world he wants to, and when he gets there, whoever lives on the plot of land he stands on in all probability would not be direct descendants of the original occupants of that land, because the history of the world is a history of tribal migrations that resulted in one ethnic group displacing another group.

  • stallion

    “Deuteronomy 9:4 After Yahweh your God has driven them out before you, do not say to yourself, “Yahweh has brought me here to take possession of this land because of my righteousness.” No, it is on account of the wickedness of these nations that Yahweh is going to drive them out before you. 5 It is not because of your righteousness or your integrity that you are going in to take possession of their land; but on account of the wickedness of these nations, Yahweh your God will drive them out before you, to accomplish what he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 6 Understand, then, that it is not because of your righteousness that Yahweh your God is giving you this good land to possess, for you are a stiff-necked people.”

    questions for jihad boobs

    1.what is the logic behind stealing land from wicked people and then giving it stiff-knecked jews?

    2. where does the babile say that israel ORIGINALLY was a place for monethistic worshipped? it says no such think, god of the bible has an obession with piece of land, drives out polythiests, replaces them with stiff knecked people who ALSO practice polythiesm. is it a surpise that jesus always says “moses say this… i say this…” but you never hear from jesus’ mouth ” god you were wrong to give land to these stiffed knecked people”

    3.The Old Testament tells us that israelites “did that which was evil in Yahweh’s sight,” and their “evil” became so bad that Yahweh at times sent them into foreign captivity. had god revealed about himself to the pagans in the “holy land” do you think they would have turned out stiff knecked as the jews?

    4. where is the proof that god made any promise to abraham?

    5. is it not possible that a jew made up deu 9:4 to justify land grabbing?

  • muhammad ‘abd-al haqq

    JihadBob,

    ROTFL!You are just too easy.

    Let’s recap:

    i said: i think you are making a false analogy here. i find it disheartening that you can find moral equivalence between the barring of non Muslims from Mecca and Medina and the systematic,morally reprehensible disenfranchisement of Palestinians by the Jewish State.

    Barring non Muslims from Mecca and Medina is religious segregation. It is not racial segregation,apartheid. We are talking about whether what Israelis are doing to Arabs by denying them rents and pressuring other Israelis to so the same, with Rabbis justifying it using their holy scripture. You are shifting the goalposts, as usual.

    One is a case of religious segregation, the other is racism. Get it? i see why you so adamantly denied that Jews could be racist against Arabs since they are both Semites. It is necessary to your argument, because it reduces both situations you are comparing to a comparison of incidences of religious, rather than racial, segregation. Nice try.

    Falsely equating religious segregation to racial discrimination shows the lengths you will go to to demonize Muslims. Additionally, the statement was initially directed to Beautiful Muslim Doll, who seemed to be comparing the Meccan/Medinan situation to how the Israelis acquired/created their State. Not only is it a false analogy, but there is no moral equivalence.

    Furthermore in your attempts at finding a moral equivalence, you suggested that Muslims stole the Ka’ba and Masjid from the polytheistic Arabs, whereas the Palestinians voluntarily left Palestine to what would become the Israelis to form Israel. Of course that is laughable, but here is where your logic fails and i expose your hypocrisy. If we are to assume that the situation in Mecca with respect to the Masjid is the same as the circumstance of how Israel became Israel(which of course we are not, just playing your little game here),then theft will be understood as removal from land or place of worship previously occupied by another. You say the Pagan Arabs of Mecca were displaced by the Muslims, so that is a theft. The Palestinians were displaced by the Israelis, so isn’t that also a theft?:)

    Or, in your never-ending dedication to double-standards, is it theft when Muslims do it, but rightfully taking back what was theirs when the Jews(or any non Muslims) do it? It has already been explained to you how the Masjid was originally a Muslim house of monotheistic worship, no idols. You discount that because you think it’s just fanciful, ad hoc Muslim legend. Yet you swallow, hook, line and sinker the obvious lie certain Jews have told: People(Palestians: descendants of Phillistines, other Canaanites, and Arabs)who have occupied a land for centuries,in some cases millenia(Phillistines and other Canaanites),leaving it to the Jews voluntarily. Why were there wars then, if it was a voluntary evacuation on the part of the ‘Pal-Arabs”? And of course you ignore true analogies such as the circumstances of the Native Americans and the Aboriginals of Australia. i suppose they consented to be driven away from their homes and lands too?

    i said: That’s an entirely different argument. But i’ll bite. Are you admitting that the Zionist Jews stole Palestine from the Arabs in order to create their apartheid-theocratic

    And you said: But land wasn’t ‘stolen’ from the Pal-Arabs. So we can dismiss your comparison,

    because you couldn’t see past your own hypocrisy and bigotry to realize that was satire highlighting the futility of false analogies. But it is telling that you put the word stolen in quotations. Seems like an interesting Freudian slip there. i think that you are playing devil’s advocate as usual and you know that the land was indeed stolen from the Palestinian Arabs, and you know my argument cannot be as easily dismissed as yours..

    “That’s theft and it’s a war crime.”

    i of course wasn’t aware that theft was a war crime. Be sure to tell that to your Zionist Israeli allies 🙂

    i also await your response to Mosizzle, who clearly points out the devious schemes of certain Israelis who want all Arabs out of Israel.

    Allahu A’lam

  • Mosizzle

    “Did Jesus not ‘reclaim’ the Temple from the money changers? ”

    Nice point, Jack. Another example is the Maccabean revolt when a Jewish army recaptured the Temple that King Antiochus had turned into a pagan temple where Greek Gods were worshipped. The Jews defeated the King and rededicated the temple to the one true God by removing the false idols. The Jews had “stolen” an important centre of pagan worship.

    Perhaps JihadBob should condemn this incident also. Especially since this incident is remembered every year during Hanukkah.

  • Mosizzle

    And, bringing the discussion back to the topic of this article, what do you have to say of this:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-10656890

    Jewish settlers buying Arab land from poor Palestinians by using their economical power in order to remove the Arab population of East Jerusalem and make the whole city more “Jewish”. This is all while these Rabbis ban Arabs from buying or even renting property because they want their cities to not turn Arab. All I see is Jews using the extraordinary wealth that they have accumulated, ready to sacrifice millions in order to remove a race that they do not like.

    As well as that, how do you feel about them naming one of the houses Beit Yonatan after Jonathan Pollard who was caught spying in the US for Israel. It isn’t the first time that Israelis have honoured people that have caused great harm to the Western countries that support them. Seems like Israel isn’t the best ally when it takes your money and sends spies to your country and when they are arrested honour them as heroes even though they’re guilty of treason. How will you condemn this Jew-qiyya?

  • So they just passed it over then bob? Hmmmmm……

    And you once again bring up the whole Mecca thing as some sort of ‘justification’. Please tell me how converting a Mosque back to it’s proper use after it had been taken by polytheists compares to blatant kicking people off their land that they had been on for generations. Did Jesus not ‘reclaim’ the Temple from the money changers? It is a similar thing here, someone using a holy place for what it is not meant for and it being taken back to it’s rightful purpose.

  • Mosizzle

    “On the other hand, we see the Koran calls on Muslims to steal a place of worship that was currently in use by Arab polytheists and convert it to a Maasjid.”

    It’s not a theft if you take back what was rightly yours. A theft would be Christians taking land from the Natives and hence you have countries like the USA, Canada and Australia where an entire race of people were eliminated and an alien culture was planted. Even though Islam spread to Iran, Pakistan, Turkey and Afghanistan, you can still see their cultures and varieties in clothing, food, music and art.

    Funny how you don’t condemn the polytheists stealing of God’s house of worship as a war crime. Your hatred of Islam has led you to ally yourself with a nation of baby killers. Wouldn’t be the first time Islamophobes have allied themselves with criminals.

  • JihadBob

    That’s an entirely different argument. But i’ll bite. Are you admitting that the Zionist Jews stole Palestine from the Arabs in order to create their apartheid-theocratic

    But land wasn’t ‘stolen’ from the Pal-Arabs. So we can dismiss your comparison.

    On the other hand, we see the Koran calls on Muslims to steal a place of worship that was currently in use by Arab polytheists and convert it to a Maasjid.

    That’s theft and it’s a war crime.

  • Mosizzle

    “That Pal-Arabs voluntarily left what would become Israel to Pagan Arabs having their place of worship taken from them?”

    Why the hell would they do that? Did the Native Americans voluntarily leave also?

    It wasn’t their place of worship. It belonged to the Muslims. The Meccans were at one point Muslims, following monotheism, and worshipping as Abraham did in that mosque. Then they added other Gods and converted it to a polytheistic temple. Remember, they weren’t Kaafirs, they were Mushrikeen, they did believe in God but added on other Gods alongside him, they too believed that the Kaaba was built by Abraham for the worship of Allah. The Muslims captured the Kaaba and restored it to its original state.

    “Do you at least acknowledge the Koran calls for the theft of the most important center for Pagan worship?”

    The Kaaba was not the centre of the Pagan World. Paganism isn’t an organised religion. For example, the English pagans would worship around Stonehenge, and many still do.

  • George Carty

    Israel is NOT theocratic any more than modern Turkey is, as it is not governed by Halacha law. “Ethnocracy” or “Herrenvolk democracy” would be more appropriate terms to describe Israel’s system of government.

  • muhammad ‘abd-al haqq

    JihadBob,

    “That Pal-Arabs voluntarily left what would become Israel to Pagan Arabs having their place of worship taken from them?”

    That sentence was incoherent. What do mean? Are you really suggesting that the Arabs voluntarily left the land that their ancestors had inhabited for centuries? That’s beyond laughable, but i will give you a chance to provide your evidence. You think that’s comparable to the pagan Arabs having the Ka’ba removed from their custodianship? i thought the argument was whether that was a case of case of racism and religious segregation in the same way that Israelis denying rents to Arabs in Israel is both religious segregation and racism. are we moving the goalposts again?

    “Do you at least acknowledge the Koran calls for the theft of the most important center for Pagan worship?”

    That’s an entirely different argument. But i’ll bite. Are you admitting that the Zionist Jews stole Palestine from the Arabs in order to create their apartheid-theocratic,masquerading as democratic-human rights violating-terrorist State? See what a difference words can make? If you are still clueless, see your use of the words “Pal-Arabs” and “theft” above.

    Allahu A’lam

  • stallion

    “They drove out cultures before them, in the early Amurru invasions; so they were driven out. ”

    The so-called “early Ammuru invasions” had happened centuries before the Israelite entry into Canaan, so let’s look at some parallels to see exactly what Mr. Miller is trying to justify. The land on which all homes in the United States now sit was once occupied by native Americans, some of whose descendants are PRESENTLY MAKING DEMANDS that this land be given to them. Those demands are both unrealistic and unfair, because the wrongs that were admittedly done to ancestral native Americans were perpetrated in most cases CENTURIES AGO by people no longer living, so why should the present owners of this land, who may themselves be unrelated to those who took it, be penalized for what early European settlers did to native Americans ancestors, who themselves had very likely driven away predecessor tribes in order to acquire the land they are now claiming should be theirs? Should we try to determine who the very first occupants of any given tract of land were and then look for descendants and let them have the land despite the investments in time, work, and money that the present owners may have put into making improvements on the land? Mr. Miller can go anywhere in the world he wants to, and when he gets there, whoever lives on the plot of land he stands on in all probability would not be direct descendants of the original occupants of that land, because the history of the world is a history of tribal migrations that resulted in one ethnic group displacing another group. That is just an unfortunate fact of history, which although unjustifiable by modern standards of morality, is nevertheless historical reality. I find it morally archaic for Mr. Miller to argue that the ancestors of the Amorites had driven away earlier occupants of Canaan, so it was fitting and proper to drive them out. According to this logic, Mr. Miller would have no basis to complain if someone should drive him away from his land and take possession of it.

    ….

    can everyone see what kind of a phukin hypocrite jihadbob is?

    “Do you at least acknowledge the Koran calls for the theft of the most important center for Pagan worship?”

    DO you ask the same question to your land grabbing hebrew god?

  • JihadBob

    i think you are making a false analogy here. i find it disheartening that you can find moral equivalence between the barring of non Muslims from Mecca and Medina and the systematic,morally reprehensible disenfranchisement of Palestinians by the Jewish State.

    That Pal-Arabs voluntarily left what would become Israel to Pagan Arabs having their place of worship taken from them?

    Do you at least acknowledge the Koran calls for the theft of the most important center for Pagan worship?

  • muhammad ‘abd-al haqq

    @JihadBob

    i think you are making a false analogy here. i find it disheartening that you can find moral equivalence between the barring of non Muslims from Mecca and Medina and the

    “The Koran records orders given directly from Allah for Muslims to prohibit non-Muslims from worshiping at their house of worship because Muslims had now taken them over:”

    How deceptive of you to truncate what i wrote to support your bogus argument.Why not post the whole quote?:

    i think you are making a false analogy here. i find it disheartening that you can find moral equivalence between the barring of non Muslims from Mecca and Medina and the systematic,morally reprehensible disenfranchisement of Palestinians by the Jewish State.

    Could it be because you were doing just what the quote states?; finding a moral equivalence. You think the situations are the same. Are you justifying the racism of Israelis against Arabs, based on the non existent racism of Muslims with respect to Mecca and Medina? As i said religious segregation isn’t necessarily racism. In the Israeli case it is both religious segregation and racism.

    Allahu A’lam

  • Beautiful Muslim Doll

    so many messages, Muhammed Al Haq, i’ll answer your points when i have more time, let me deal with Justin first

    Justin

    “ You are an apologist for radical Zionists who do not want to live in peace with Arab neighbors.”

    No, i didn’t say i approve of what they said, i was saying they are not motivated by racism. Which Arab neighbors want to live in peace with them? You said they don’t want to live with their neighbors, like their neighbors recognise and accept them? like they face no threat? The decisions they take are based on their belief that their neighbors don’t want to live with them. Do you think they would make these decisions if their neighbors accepted and welcomed them? I don’t think they would.

    “and the Israeli government’s consistent track record of illegal occupation, war crimes, and racial discrimination.”

    Yes, the SECULAR government, which by the way rejects the religious crowd and the Rabbi’s, (and not just these ones cited above). The Likud led government, are propped up by American extremists. The settlements are funded out of America,

    “ Your comparison between the situation in Medina 1400 years ago and the modern violent imposition of the Israeli state belies the history of those two events, and your takfir of Art shows me you are probably just an anti-Muslim concern troll who is just using the name Beautiful Muslim Doll.”

    I don’t believe Art was a Muslim, his first comment wasn’t something that a Muslim would believe in. But I concede I may be wrong, and if so, I certainly don’t believe in his version of Islam if he was a Muslim, and if you do then you are the one with the problem. Why was his comment deleted if you are lauding him?

    Are you saying you agree with what he said?

    and it also shows me that YOU are comitting Takfir, by insinuating that i’m not Muslim. Take a look in the mirror before accusing others.

    “ You ask Emperor questions like you really care but you’ve just shown you want to argue in favor of radical Zionism.”

    You have comprehension skills, I asked you to prove what the Rabbi’s said was based on racism, and you cite this, “Racism originated in the Torah.” The context of which they say this is made clear if you bother to look. If there is a threat to their well being, then they have to get rid of the threat. Here is the Rabbi who originally made the ruling, which the others are following,

    And yes I would still like Emperor to answer my question, why wouldn’t I care?

    Rabbi Eliyahu:
    “Despite this, he told the paper, there was no racism whatsoever behind this position. “We believe in treating all people fairly, as they were all created in the image of G-d. But Arabs who support Hizbullah and Hamas certainly cannot be expected to be regarded as ‘good neighbors’ by us,” he told the paper.”

    That doesn’t sound like a racist comment to me.

    “There is no comparison between Muslims protecting their holiest sites and the Israeli government’s consistent track record of illegal occupation, war crimes, and racial discrimination. Rabbi Yosef Scheinen said “Racism originated in the Torah.” What more proof do you need?”

    Of course there is a comparison. The laws they use in the Torah to protect their Holy sites (all of Israel is Holy to them) has the same basis on as to why the first Caliph relocated all the non Muslims from the two cites. It was so they wouldn’t pose a future threat. If there is a threat, then you remove the threat. Or are you saying that only we have the right to protect our Holy sites and nobody else?

    By the way, did you agree with what Art said? If you do, then it means you’re just pretending that the Rabbi’s are motivated by racism rather than an existential threat, that is something that anti Zionists like to pretend is the case, because like Zionist extremists, they believe the other don’t have the right to exist.

  • mmsays

    wow! jihadbob has totally turned this around, now we are no longer concentrating on jews not renting to [b]christians[/b] but why muslims don’t allow non-muslims in mecca/medina. these places are not part of the issue,the issue is that the jews are using their religion to oppress a people. i am guessing you are a christian, so, why are you making this about muslims? in palestine, both muslims and christians are equally oppressed, they equally live in poverty, humiliated, and murdered.

    you allow your ignorance, hatred, and stupidity to cloud your judgement. your stupidity is blazingly obvious in the fact that instead of seeing the truth in what is happening you turn it around and make it into muslims are evil.

  • NassirH

    When JihadBob clearly loses an argument he begins to change to subject and judge 7th century Muslims by standards his own religious figures couldn’t meet.

    http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/11/robert-spencer-of-jihadwatch-becomes-desperate-against-loonwatch/

    Like I said—the desperate loon is desperate.

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