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Eric Allen Bell Defects to JihadWatch Twilight Zone: Islamophobic Diarist Dumped by Daily Kos

Eric Allen Bell, the loon, has been dumped by Daily Kos for being a bigot.  Good riddance.

What many have suspected seems to have happened, birds of a feather flock together.

If you sound like a bigot, write like a bigot, argue like a bigot, then you’re a bigot… he started sounding more and more like Robert Spencer and sure enough now they’re reposting each other for validation.

Damn you Kossacks, Eric Allen Bell is miffed

by LaFeminista

After three diaries of mounting Islamophobia Eric was finally dumped, what a shame I here you all cry.

Now I hardly feel the need to friend him on  facebook but I might as well copy his whine here

Eric Allen Bell
Daily Kos has removed me as a writer. Apparently appealing to people’s humanity and asking if we can take a stand on human rights is not a value that DKOS holds as dear as compromise and commercialization. The liberal class in America IS NOT an effective voice of dissent. Either you are radical or you just don’t care. The middle ground is a waiting room for cowards.

Sorry Eric, you were not removed as a writer, but because you sounded just like Pamela Geller.

You mount a typical defense used by bigots everywhere, “I’m just telling the truth”.

You then proceed to lump every Muslim under a violent, bloodthirsty and bigoted banner, you even stooped to the “they are mere savages” argument.

You were not banned for speaking the truth.

You were banned because you are a bigot, sorry but it really is as simple as that.

Good riddance I say.

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  • revenge

    @LoveGod You’re joking? God loves? Newsflash, the Christian God is the most genocidal, hate-filled being ever. The only thing God loves is killing.

    You wanna know what’s really evil and murder? It’s how White Christians came to America and killed my ancestors by the millions. Or how about the millions of Jews who were killed by Christians in 1940s Europe. Or the countless number of children of Iraq who were killed by Christian sanctions.

    As you said, the truth will set you free. 😉

  • @Emanuele Ciriachi,

    You Wrote,
    ————————————————————————–
    Truth hurts, I guess.

    Indeed the DK is a privately owned website that has all the rights of allowing who they want to post there. The fact that they attacked him for his legitimate opinions rather than addressing his valid point about Islam, speaks volume though.

    Welcome to the real world Eric Bell – the wall of ignorance and deception is slowly starting to come down.
    ————————————————————————–

    It is people like you and Eric Allen Bull who do not live in reality. Islamification is something spoken of on just about every anti Muslim, anti Islam, “counter jihad” website such as Jihad Watch. Yet I can site article after article from reputable sources, debunking it.

    Islamification Myth
    http://yellow-stars.com/blog/islamification-myth/

    “Eurabia” Debunked
    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2010/01/06/eurabia-debunked/

    Re: Eurabia Debunked
    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2010/01/12/re-eurabia-debunked/

    Why Fears Of A Muslim Takeover Are All Wrong
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/07/10/why-fears-of-a-muslim-takeover-are-all-wrong.html

    Muslim Demographics: The Truth
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mINChFxRXQs&feature=channel_video_title

    Want me to also debunk the Stealth Jihad and Taqqiya is lying for Islam myth? Seriously, please do yourself a favor and don’t get your information on Islam or Muslims from people like Spencer or Bull or blogs like Jihad Watch.

  • @LoveGod

    You have such a black and white view of things. Anyway, what threat is there to wake up to? Yes some Muslim extremists murdered innocent people on 9/11, and yes it was an act of evil in my opinion. Now what does that tell us? Nothing other than some Muslims are extremists and some commit atrocities. For every evil action committed by a Muslim I can find evil actions committed by a non Muslim.

    http://whatiftheyweremuslim.com/

    Please listen to me, weather you realize it or not by supporting people like Spencer and Bull you will be doing far more harm than good, Most Muslims are not monsters.

  • LoveGod

    ps. Correction:Reporter Lara Logan not Lara Spencer !!! Oppsss! Sorry!

  • LoveGod

    Truth will set you free. Islam is nasty, dirty, honor killing and the brutality of women is wrong, what happened to Lara Spencer in Egypt was wrong and evil men raped this reporter, What the Islamic Radicals did on 911 (do not fiorget) by killing 3000 Americans on our turf was evil and murder!!! Islam is a evil thing that we Ameruicans are not going to allow in our Judeo Christian God loving society. God Loves. Islam Hates. Thats the difference my friends. Wake up, just like Eric Bell saw the truth when he investigated and observed…..Islam is a bad radical so-called religion. Wake up America!

  • Emanuele Ciriachi

    Truth hurts, I guess.

    Indeed the DK is a privately owned website that has all the rights of allowing who they want to post there. The fact that they attacked him for his legitimate opinions rather than addressing his valid point about Islam, speaks volume though.

    Welcome to the real world Eric Bell – the wall of ignorance and deception is slowly starting to come down.

  • Eric Allen Bell,

    You wrote,
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    Critical Dragon –

    Danios is playing games with you. He won’t let most of what I have to say get posted here. He posted the one above to make me look like I have nothing to say while he is being reasonable. It is intentional deception, spin, what he and his Hamas counterparts do so very well.
    —————————————————————————

    Yeah, and than he allows all your other comments to be posted here? Give me a brake. Also, why did you even post that comment, if you knew how bad it would make you look if he posted it, and Danios is dishonest? You want to know who is dishonest? Robert Spencer, one of the people you admire as being so brave for daring to “speak the truth.”

    Only when you can debunk every single one of these claims about him, do we have any reason to take you seriously.

    Robert Spencer’s “Scholarly” Credentials
    http://spencerwatch.com/real-scholars-experts-on-islam/

    Is Robert Spencer a Scholar? On Spencer’s Credentials and Methodology
    http://spencerwatch.com/2010/08/11/is-robert-spencer-a-scholar-on-spencer%E2%80%99s-credentials-and-methodology/

    Also if Robert Spencer is a real scholar, why did he let his work get published by a company with such low standards for objectivity that they also published books supporting Crationism in the same series?

    The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades)
    http://www.amazon.com/Politically-Incorrect-Guide-Islam-Crusades/dp/0895260131/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1327627790&sr=8-2

    The Politically Incorrect Guide to Darwinism and Intelligent Design
    http://www.amazon.com/Politically-Incorrect-Darwinism-Intelligent-Design/dp/1596980133/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&qid=1327627684&sr=8-18

    If either one of us is being played with here, without realizing it, its you.

  • Danios wins this debate. It appears to me that the only place EAB’s writings are welcomed is on Robert Spencer’s Jihadwatch.com. And it is noteworthy that the Southern Poverty Law Center includes Robert Spencer on their top ten anti-Muslim list. splc.org/top10innercircle.
    Slamming Islam in the name of Human Rights violates the the very definition of Human Rights put forth by every Human Rights organization that I know of.

  • Let’s get some things straight. His being kicked off that website is not censorship. Free speech does not exist in a vacuum. It exist alongside other principles such as right to privacy and personal property. A person is not allowed to say whatever they want, whenever they want to whomever they want in just any location. I, for instance, am not obligated to give anyone a platform in my own home or business. Its MY property, not theirs.

    Further, hate speech should not be free to speak without consequence. Hate speech is just as damaging (if not more) as defamation and libel. In fact, it is a greater form of these two. Both defamation and libel are not opposed because they merely “offend” the party which is targeted, but because the lies perpetuated by those actions have REAL LIFE CONSEQUENCES on that individual due to many individual’s inability to separate truth from fiction.

    In the same say, hate speech against Muslims has created REAL LIFE CONSEQUENCES for ALL MUSLIMS living as minorities in certain societies. This hate speech does not offend us simply because its insulting, it offends us because we personally understand its affects and how it ACTUALLY HARMS US.

    Now, you could say the best way to counter this is through education and merely speaking back, but when you have no control of how the medium works and the larger voice is constantly controlling the narrative, this is easier said than done. This is why we need people to take ACTION against these individuals through legal means etc.

    I do not endorse “unlimited speech”, the idol of true free speech, because I have experience too much harassment and attempted assaults to think it a good thing…and I have witnessed and known those who have suffered worse because of it.

    Say what you will, but this is reality.

  • Danios

    @ A Non-Muslim:

    First: Eric Allen Bell is the one who first called us names and smeared us.

    Second: I didn’t “run to get people banned.” I simply wrote an article explaining why Eric Allen Bell was wrong and a bigot–which answers your point about “why didn’t you debate him and point out the points he is wrong about?” In that article, I refuted his main argument and then asked Daily Kos to think deeply whether or not such a bigot belongs on a progressive website like theirs.

    The fact that Bell ignored all my counter-points means that he is uninterested in intelligent conversation and just wants to babble like Pamela Geller, a similarity that the Daily Kos noted as well.

    Third: Please don’t lecture me on the “freedom of speech,” since you don’t seem to understand it to begin with. Being banned from a website is not an infringement of your right to freedom of speech, as explained on the Daily Kos website itself. Why don’t you first obtain an even rudimentary understanding of what “freedom of speech” is before you lecture us on it.

  • A Non-Muslim

    If you have such great points to make, if Eric Allen Bell is so wrong, why didn’t you debate him and point out the points he is wrong about? Don’t call him names, just take his article point by point and a document how and why he is wrong — if he is wrong.

    The fact that you run to get people banned is, frankly stupid. In the United States, everyone has freedom of speech. if you disagree with him, simply set forth your own point of view.

  • Danios
  • Nur Alia

    @Believing Athiest.

    I read your posts here, and find them fair and balanced. I like that thought provoking on both sides you seem to have the ability to bring forward.

    Please understand something though that an old dumb Muslim woman (me) learned over her many footprints on this path.

    The most potent weapon of war is bigotry. Most people would not go out in slaughter others without personal cause unless they can be convinced that they are ‘superior’ than the other, and that the other are mean, vicious, and barbaric.

    Those who would walk into a land unfamiliar, and decide people they dont know, or have never heard of before then are thier enemies, would have to be drilled into thier minds by constant forced feeding of propaganda and hate.

    The result of this weapon is manifested in things like shooting point blank 24 people in thier home, or 17 in a traffic circle…and is rewarded by a ‘reduction in pay, and 3 months in jail’.

    The only peaceful way to fight an ideolocal war such as this has become, is to undermine the most potent weapon. We can look at Loonwatch as part of our arsenal against the bigoty, and to undermine those who dissimiate it.

    A 65 year old woman like me isnt going to hold a gun and shoot people. My humanity probably wont let me. I can though learn about those who man the most powerful weapon, and prick them with truth.

    Knowing that people who are studied, and come together in this virtual conferance room, to gather intelligence to fight the war against us, is a good thing.

    We will glory in the taking down of this man, by simply amplifying his own words. He died here, not because of Muslims, or this site, but by his own pen. We simply repeated what he said.

  • Michael Elwood

    @JT

    “Yes indeed, there will be many many many oppurtunities to discuss these topics. New Islamophobes pop up all the time with the same arguments. I believe all of those, especially the Banu Qurayza incident, has been discussed and debated here at length plenty of times and always the loons have been silenced.”

    Yeah, I’m sure it’ll come up again. Islamophobes tend to be one-trick ponies

    @Hajj Dawud

    “And these unless you’ve already seen the study in the peer-reviewed Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland, (1976), pp. 100-107. Another article, which regrettably fails to mention those of the Banu Qurayza who embraced Islam (ancestors of Ibn Ishaq’s sources), avoiding execution, exile, and slavery, adds more contextual detail ~ for example, the leaders of Banu Qurayza instigated the Quraysh into attacking Madinah at the battle of the Trench.”

    Yes, I’ve read the one by W.N. Arafat, but not the second one.

    “Feel free to send my your notes on this ~ hajj (at) muslimamerica.net ~ every time I look for it again, I learn a little more.”

    Same here. There’s some interesting stuff in those old books. I accidentally learned something when debating WhatAboutJihad?. Remember when he said that there is no connection between 9:25 and 9:29? Verse 9:25 mentions the Battle of Hunayn and 9:29 mentions the reparations (jiziya) to be paid. WAJ? thought that there wasn’t any connection between the two verses because, in his mind, there were no People of the Book who fought in the battle. However, the the Jewish Banu Jashm tribe did participate along with the polytheist Banu Hawazin and Banu Thaqif tribes.

    the reason why the Banu Jashm were singled out in 9:29 was because, of those tribes, only they were part of the Medinan Republic. They are even mantioned by name in the Constitution of Medina!

    Now, the Banu Jashm were guilty of the same thing in the Battle of Hunayn that the Banu Qurayza were guilty of in the Battle of the Trench (conspiring with a confederacy, al-ahzab, against the Medinan Republic). Why weren’t they given the same punishment? Could it be that they actually were given similar punishments (reparations)? Could it be that this is what the Quran alludes to when it says:

    33:27 He made you inherit their land, their homes, their money, and lands you had never stepped on. GOD is in full control of all things. (note that the previous verse, 33:26, is thought to refer to the Battle of the Trench)

    I should point out that jiziya is traditionally translated as tribute. In the other 42 occurrences, the noun is correctly translated as recompense. However, in 9:29 it’s translated as tribute (in order to justify the later practice of the Umayyads and Abbasids). The Quranic Arabic word for tribute is kharj, not jiziya. Muhammad explicitly rejects tribute in 23:72. And Dhul Qarnayn explicitly rejects tribute in 18:94.

  • angry marmot

    Just caught this thread now. I’m a regular participant at DailyKos and was a frequent participant in the comment-threads with EAB. DailyKos has a peculiar system of community moderation. When a diarist ends up being “banned” as EAB was, it can result from either a) direct administrative action, typically spurred by communications from other users to the admins directly, or b) the accumulation of some number of negative ratings, to some number of a user’s comments, over some amount of time thus activating the Autoban (the exact parameters are not published to prevent gaming the system.) In the case of EAB we don’t know whether his well-deserved banning resulted from a) or b), but I for one am glad to see him gone in any case.

    Keep up the good work, Loonwatch…

  • khushboo

    It’s hilarious that EAB considers Jean Paul Gaultier’s anti-semitic words empty hate speech but his hatred against Islam which is an insult to all of us who follow Islam every day incl. following our beloved prophet’s teachings, is not a hate speech. Typical double standard! These loons all sound alike!

  • Danios

    It seems Eric Allen Bell has reached into the Islamophobe’s handbook and accused me of supporting Hamas.

    I challenge anyone to find any statement of mine in which I do any such thing. In reality, I condemn (and have always condemned) Hamas. I condemn them for multiple reasons, not the least of which is their targeting of civilians, something they have admitted to. But even aside from this, they follow a form of radical, fundamentalist Islam that is completely unacceptable to me.

    None of this changes my solidarity with the Palestinian people in general, who have been subjected to ethnic cleansing and apartheid by the state of Israel.

    It’s sad that Eric Allen Bell has resorted to such baseless smears.

    Bell is using typical, standard Islamophobe techniques–is there any question that he is an Islamophobic bigot?

    He still hasn’t responded to any of my arguments in my response to him. As for his argument about Muhammad, I have already written multiple articles on this topic, although I think I will write a response to it now in a featured article.

    Lastly, the decision to withhold his further comments was not mine. Having said that, it seems that he is unwilling to address any of the arguments I raised in my response to him:

    http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/01/daily-kos-and-glenn-greenwald-on-loonwatch/

    In light of that, it seems that he is just wasting our time. And as I said before, I could care less about Eric Allen Bell now that he is not on the Daily Kos any more. He is just a dime-a-dozen Islamophobe now.

  • Mr. Elwood laments: I had all my notes about the Banu Qurayza …

    And these unless you’ve already seen the study in the peer-reviewed Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland, (1976), pp. 100-107. Another article, which regrettably fails to mention those of the Banu Qurayza who embraced Islam (ancestors of Ibn Ishaq’s sources), avoiding execution, exile, and slavery, adds more contextual detail ~ for example, the leaders of Banu Qurayza instigated the Quraysh into attacking Madinah at the battle of the Trench.

    Feel free to send my your notes on this ~ hajj (at) muslimamerica.net ~ every time I look for it again, I learn a little more.

  • DrM

    I remember this guy from the Bill Maher thread :

    http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/11/bill-maher-a-loon-among-liberals/

    He did concede that Maher was being hypocritical in his rosy treatment of Zionism. Wonder what happened to him to fall back on lazy, anti-Islamic bigotry.

  • JT

    @Michael Elwood,

    “Oh well, there will be other opportunities.”

    Yes indeed, there will be many many many oppurtunities to discuss these topics. New Islamophobes pop up all the time with the same arguments. I believe all of those, especially the Banu Qurayza incident, has been discussed and debated here at length plenty of times and always the loons have been silenced.

    Eric Allen Bell would do well to read up on the issue rather than spew out the same garbage that has been refuted many times before.

    @Garibaldi, that’s your decision but remember how whiny the loons can be — you can bet all you have that they will complain that Loonwatch is censoring them, that it “has something to hide” (a non-existent connection to Hamas) or is not open to debate.

  • Michael Elwood

    @Garibaldi

    “We are not allowing comments any longer from EAB and his friends. If he wants to respond, he can on his own blog.”

    Damn! I’ve been looking for an excuse to debate Muhammad’s supposed belligerence ever since WhatAboutJihad? brought it up. I knew what Eric Allen Bell was going to say before he even said it. And I had all my notes about the Banu Qurayza, assassinated poetesses, and jihad ready to use.

    Oh well, there will be other opportunities. 🙂

  • Eric Allen Bell whines: Mohammed was a violent man and that in Islam he is he ideal man.

    During the battle of Uhud, he threw some dust in the direction of the attacking Qurayshi forces, who were a third of a mile away. Other than that, he never raised his hand or his voice against anyone. I just threw a cottonball at your picture on my video screen, which is eighteen inches away from me. I guess in your eyes that makes me more violent than Muhammad?

    You’ve made yourself an enemy of Islam. You should think that over ~ I have more cotton balls.

  • corey

    @bell
    spencer is far from a sober mind when it comes to islam but if you look around at this site you will see his hypocricy is common knowledge here for instance he often says things along the lines of “lets not encourage violence against muslims” yet he came to the defense of a website that was not only encouraging violence but celebrating it as well.http://spencerwatch.com/2011/11/30/anti-muslim-bigot-robert-spencer-comes-to-the-defense-of-genocidal-site-%e2%80%9cbarenakedislam%e2%80%9d/

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