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Pamela Geller Indicts Loonwatch “Smear Machine” for Ban from UK

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Loonwatch did not play a direct role in having Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer banned from the UK. We’re opposed to using the apparatus of the state to curtail free speech.

The ideal response to objectionable free speech is more free speech.

We do, however, appreciate free advertising. When we’re being publicly denounced by notorious ant-Muslim bigots, we know we must be doing something right.

Documents reveal British banned Geller and Spencer because of their ‘pro-Israeli views’

by Pamela Geller, The Daily Caller

(H/T: HeGG)

The British government tried to cover its tracks. But a new cache of documents Robert Spencer and I have received in our battle to overturn our being banned from Britain reveal that a chief reason why we were banned from the country was because we strongly support Israel…

….It is breathtaking – the amount of time, money, and human resources devoted to this Kafkaesque exercise. These venerable agencies begin their in-depth and comprehensive research at — wait for this — Wikipedia. From there, they cite to each other such notorious and reputable smear machines as Loonwatch and Islamophobia Today. Senior analysts from Asia, the Middle East and Europe were part of the research and information team. Our case had “very senior scrutiny,” as there was a “need to push” on this research. Mind you, much of the material in these documents were redacted. Wouldn’t the unredacted documents have made interesting reading?

All reference to the identities of those who asked that we be banned have been blacked out. Henry Ripley, writing “for the Treasury Solicitor,” explained to our lawyers that “the documents provided have been redacted to remove references to information which is not relevant to the claims.” No, clearly the documents were redacted to conceal who was behind the ban and what their motives were, and to conceal the conspiratorial nature of the exclusion.

It is amusing to read the back-and-forth when these geniuses begin to discover that we had no plans to come in February. They decide that “it doesn’t mean that they’ve [EDL] given up on the idea” of bringing us over, “and it would be a blow to their credibility if they did.” I find it interesting how badly they wanted to damage the EDL’s credibility. They were so bent on this that they had an informant within the EDL, from whom they say they were getting this information.

Through March and April they continued to pursue the elusive and non-existent engagement that Robert and I had never agreed to attend, spoken about attending, or even discussed attending among ourselves. This crack research team has one eureka moment when one of the redacted names “has discovered circa 120 articles written by Geller on one website alone[!] In order to go through this properly, we need another week to conduct our research.” More time. More money. More people.

“The government,” one document says, “is clear that it opposes extremism in all forms.” Does it oppose extremism in pursuit of truth? Does it oppose extremism in pursuit of justice? Of liberty? How ridiculous they are, tying themselves in knots at the behest of their would-be executioners.

Pamela Geller is the President of the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI), publisher of and [quite possibly the Looniest Blogger Ever.]

Read the full article here.


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  • You’re right, it’s a fine line. However – I would support banning Geert Wilders from entering the US. Nothing Wilders argues is remotely true and are outright hateful myths that can easily be proven to be false, wrong and lies. Wilders travels and speech amount to that spread of hateful myths about Muslims in the Netherlands, Europe and America. Wilders myths have helped create what amounts to a police state for Muslims and a free state for everyone else in the Netherlands.
    Bans are problematic – but in the case of Geert Wilders – it’s totally justified. Wilders brings nothing but hateful myths where ever he goes…

  • Guess

    The loonwatch writers have posted plenty about her, just put her name in the LW search engine.

  • Ray786

    Great!! I’m glad to find this website denouncing these phobia enticing wastes of matter, especially ones that can stop them from spreading their hate in other countries, hahahaaa, kudos ….. btw, I’m sure you guys have also heard of Brigitte Gabriel, the Islamophobe running in NEOCON circles as a model of integrity when she is nothing but a hateful phobia filled animal that in my opinion should also be fully aired out for her bogus rants against Muslims …. she’s part of the hasbara (Zionists supporters of Israel) that gets away with hate filled speech …… one by one, these turds should be exposed so they know their are consequences to free speech as well ….. I’d love someone to expose her for the fraud she is …… any who, glad to have found this website!!

  • SarahAB

    Agree, I think. Although it should be noted that stopping Spencer and Geller from entering the UK isn’t really limiting their free speech. But it does have the distracting effect of allowing them to present themselves as free speech martyrs. I had the same feelings about Wilders – I wanted him to be allowed into the UK so that the focus could be on his unpleasant ideas, not his right to free speech (which I’d support).

  • The greenmantle

    your phone number ?
    Sex ? I dont mean male or female I mean how often ;
    Its a scary world out there best to laugh at it
    Sir David

  • Mehdi

    Hi there, I’m not saying we should be passive.
    As I wrote previously, it’s not about laughing at them exclusively, as I said we should “confront them, laugh at them OR ignore them”, indeed a strategy based on only ignoring them can only fail, and extremism has to be confronted, by exposing their bigotry/stupidity, voting against them when they run for office, campaigning in some circumstances, etc.
    What I meant by ignoring is that in some circumstances it can be the best strategy, some debates are not worth being dragged into, but in other cases it’s important to speak up and fight back within the democratic tools we have at hand.
    It’s about picking the right tool based on the circumstance, nothing less.

  • Zakariya Ali Sher

    Haha… I do wonder what’s in my Hasbara file…

  • Zakariya Ali Sher

    I disagree. I mean, yes, we should laugh at them. I take it a step further and actively mock them. But we cannot just sit back and take their crap. Especially not with people like Wilders who wield political capital. We have to take the initiative and actively campaign against them. We have to vote them out of office, we have to show the public that they are full of shit. If we allow people like Wilders and King to continue to hold power, they will use it against us. That’s the real danger.

  • Zakariya Ali Sher

    As I said, much as I may dislike her, she has freedom of speech, at least in America. She doesn’t have the freedom to do whatever the hell she wants in some other part of the world. She’s not a British subject, so she has no “right” to do anything in Britain. Considering the sheer racism in her anti-Muslim and anti-Arab rants, I would say that many countries like Algeria, Egypt, Iraq, Bahrain, Iran, Turkey, Pakistan and the like would also be within their rights to ban her. Permanently.

  • Zakariya Ali Sher

    Oh, I think so. The thing is, Loonwatch is legitimately dangerous to the Islamophobia industry. If people only read Spencer and Pipes and the rest of those clowns, they would get a distorted image of Islam, full of lies, bigotry and outright hatred. If they search around the internet or go to their library, or better yet, visit local mosques, they will get a more even handed portrayal of Islam. Spencer, Geller and the lot can’t have that; they wouldn’t be able to pose as experts and milk money out of people.

    More to the point, not only does LW expose Spencer, Geller and the other professional Islamophobes, but it actually HUMILIATES them. It shows where they are wrong, where they are lying… that’s a big deal. It helps to mobilize people against them. So the Islamophobes NEED to counter sites like LW. Of course, flattering as it is to think that they have a single minded agenda against us, its more likely that they seek out ANY site or news story that has a positive view of Islam and proceed to attack it. Still, it is funny to watch them get their panties in a knot.

  • Bob

    “You think the ban was justified in one case and not the other. I would imagine the folks at HP, for example, would have a different opinion.”

    Obviously there’s a difference of opinion between anti-racists and Islamophobes like HP on who should be allowed into the UK.

    Anti-racists want to ban people from entering the country who have made it clear they intend to incite hatred against minority communities. HP want to ban certain Muslims from entering the country even when there is no real evidence that they intend to incite hatred against anyone.

    If you think there’s an equals sign between these two positions, you really have lost the plot.

  • The greenmantle

    Incidently the Deacon and Pammy are not the only citizens of the USA to be denied entry to the UK .
    A Mr Savage whom I believe to be what is termed a shock jock and Leaders of a self help group called the KKK are also banned.
    Anyway why do we need Pammy in the UK when we have Mad Mel Phillips who has the added advantage of being able to write with out making up words .
    Sir David

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