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Lincoln County Chairman Carrol Mitchem: “Only Christian Prayers Welcome At Meetings”

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From the complete-incomprehension-of-the-US-Constitution/Kooky-RightWing-Evangelicalism-Files #324590408282:

By John Cominsky, Charlotte Observer

A Lincoln County commissioner says non-Christian prayer is not welcome in government meetings that he is a part of and that he plans on keeping it that way.

Lincoln County Board of Commissioners Chairman Carrol Mitchem told WBTV that any prayer from a “minority religion” would not be heard before county meetings if he has a say in the matter.

“Other religions, or whatever, are in the minority. The U.S. was founded on Christianity,” Mitchem said. “I don’t believe we need to be bowing to the minorities. The U.S. and the Constitution were founded on Christianity. This is what the majority of people believe in, and it’s what I’m standing up for.”

WBTV contacted Mitchem after a report was published in the Lincoln Times-News. In that report, Mitchem was asked about Rowan County, which was ordered earlier in the week by a federal court to stop opening meetings with a sectarian prayer. A federal judge ruled the Rowan County Board of Commissioners violated the Constitution when they held prayers before public meetings that were specific to one religion – Christianity.

“Changing rules on the way the United States was founded, Constitution was founded (I don’t like),” Mitchem told the paper. “I don’t need no Arab or Muslim or whoever telling me what to do or us here in the county what to do about praying. If they don’t like it, stay the hell away.”

Mitchem echoed that sentiment to WBTV on Friday.

“I ain’t gonna have no new religion or pray to Allah or nothing like that,” Mitchem said. He added that anyone who doesn’t want to hear a Christian prayer can leave and “wait until we’re done praying.

“We’re fighting Muslims every day. I’m not saying they’re all bad,” Mitchem said. “They believe in a different God than I do. If that’s what they want to do, that’s fine. But, they don’t need to be telling us, as Christians, what we need to be doing. They don’t need to be rubbing our faces in it.”

Jibril Hough, spokesman for the Islamic Center of Charlotte, said such attitudes go against the principles on which the country was founded. “If you don’t believe the rights of the minority are equal to the rights of the majority, then you are against what America stands for,” Hough said. “That’s why we live in a democratic republic.”

Muslims, he added, “pray to the God of Abraham, the same God Christians and Jews pray to.”

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  • AJ

    Matt, what are you a student of?

  • HerrSkolly

    Cool.

  • HerrSkolly

    I do appreciate and understand your points – quite thoughtful and hopeful. On a cynical note, perhaps Tyson and others have simply not been inherently/innately permitted access to faith – in whatever manner, by wiring, DNA, or some-such other human description – heck, or even by God’s choice/design. Faith matters more than anything to the faithful – and, it should, for they are faithful. Others simply seem to have no such connection – maybe that’s on them, maybe they were born/created/etc. in that particular fashion – perhaps even so for some peculiar reason, be that by God or by nature.

  • Matt

    It depends on how you define ‘God,’ our relation to God, and what your assumed domain of discourse is. If your domain is science then you better not use the term ‘God’ in a way that blocks the way of inquiry. Neil deGrasse Tyson, in a video lecture entitled “The Perimeter of Ignorance” accused Newton of blocking the way of inquiry, due to his believing in “a god of the gaps.” It very well may be that “his religiosity stopped him” from discovering the solution to the problem he was wrestling with; but there is room for doubt, because it is very clear that Peirce did not do this when he used the words “inward light” to speak of that which allows us to guess correctly when the odds are astronomically against us. Maybe Tyson artificially overly defined ‘God’, and assumed that God is, in relation to us, an impenetrable end point, like a cosmic brick wall, so that where God starts human inquiry and discovery is impossible. But this conception of God, and our relation to Him, is not a necessary element for a belief in God. You can believe that God has depth into which we can inquire and discover.

  • HerrSkolly

    Thanks, Matt. Perhaps I’ve been touched by God’s grace without having any such knowledge or understanding of it. 🙂

  • Khanage

    “The second one is for idiots…”
    I find this quite ironic.

  • Matt

    Without the grace of God you wouldn’t be able to do the simplest of things—things that are so simple you don’t pay any attention to them.

    “In attempting to make our robot work, [i.e., perform the task of building a tower of toy blocks,] we found that many everyday problems were much more complicated than the sorts of problems, puzzles, and games adults consider hard. At every point, in that world of blocks, when we were forced to look more carefully than usual, we found an unexpected universe of complications. Consider just the seemingly simple problem of not reusing blocks already built into the tower. To a person, this seems simple common sense: ‘Don’t use an object to satisfy a new goal if that object is already involved in accomplishing a prior goal.’ No one knows exactly how human minds do this.

    — Marvin Minsky, The Society of Mind, Ch 2.5.
    http://aurellem.org/society-of-mind/som-2.5.html

    Please continue by reading my response to AJ in this thread.

  • Matt

    Marvin Minsky, a co-founder of the artificial intelligence lab at MIT, somewhere explained that tasks which are commonly thought of as the simplest are really the most difficult in that they’re the most perplexing to explain. C. S. Peirce explained* that the mere ability to recognize anything for what it is starts with the logical process of ‘abduction.’ Abduction is the process of guessing an hypothesis to explain something. How we can guess correctly when we’re faced with an infinity of choices is a mystery to all the sciences. Peirce chalked it up to “an inward light” or “il lume naturale” which can rightly be interpreted as ‘the grace of God.’

    * https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.philosophy/oEj-ppO5yNs/2Fo6-2TG6LgJ

  • Khanage

  • HerrSkolly
  • Khanage

    Pfft, that, quite frankly, is shit. These are much better.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BEm0AjTbsac
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S9zqXmraFKQ

    Styx looks like a cool game.

  • Khanage

    Do you still comment on MuslimGirl?

    I’d like you to know that if you hadn’t made your profile god damn private, I wouldn’t have to ask you this and I could entertain myself with your comments whenever I wanted. I hope you feel guilty about your selfishness.

  • Khanage

    You might like dis.
    https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/secret-pentagon-report-reveals-west-saw-isis-as-strategic-asset-b99ad7a29092
    Pentagon report predicted West’s support for Islamist rebels would create ISIS
    Anti-ISIS coalition knowingly sponsored violent extremists to ‘isolate’ Assad, rollback ‘Shia expansion’

  • AJ

    I don’t think I understood the mattress thing. Emailed you.

  • Jekyll

    Amen to that.

  • AJ

    The world has become one big scary place, There are people born into every race and religion that are trying to destroy earth, it’s resources, murder each other when they could all have existed in peace and when there is enough food for everyone. May Allah help us all, Ameen.

  • AJ

    If I ever sent to Gitmo, may Allah give be a quick and painless death, Ameen.

  • AJ

    The SPLC has labeled the American Family Association as a hate group. I am not sure if it is just the rejection of homosexuality that triggered that or more but the point seems being moral is to be a hater. I could be wrong and perhaps AFA is doing more than that but I am very apprehensive of ACLU and of SLPC too after the AFA thing.

  • Khanage

    You are one depressing mofo, you know that, Homedawg? But every cloud has a silver lining, at least at Gitmo you wouldn’t need anal reconstructive surgery 😉

  • Khanage

    I’m a Sunni Muslim 😀

  • Rajano

    Thank you, may I ask do you consider yourself to follow a particular branch of Islam? I hope this does not stir controversy – that is not my intent – if you would rather, feel free to reply at rajanogriza [at] nym [dot] hush [dot] com – I am simply trying to learn all I can about Islam from many different perspectives. Thanks

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