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Another horrific massacre, this time in Nice, France. This is on top of massacres in the Muslim majority world, (Bangladesh, Turkey, Iraq, Saudi Arabia) where hundreds have been killed in bombings by individuals supposedly acting in the name of ISIS. Once again proving that the greatest victims of terrorist violence continue to be Muslims.

Of course this individual who perpetrated the attack fits the pattern of a non-religious, wife-beating, life-long petty criminal who all of a sudden got “religion.” Sadly, there will be no real discussion of the factors that lead to such violence. Khaled Beydoun however lays out the facts.:

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  • Leefromoz

    Hi, the evidence is Islam’s own texts. Name a crime and I’ll provide Muhammad’s practice of it and preaching of it. Remember, all crimes against humanity committed by Islamic State, Boko Haram, al-Shabaab, the Taliban, al Qaeda etc are derived from Muhammad’s practices and teachings.

  • Leefromoz

    On the contrary, Muhammad valued terrorism as one of his most potent techniques, as it often meant his victims froze, or gave up the “booty” that he lived on with fewer casualties to Muhammad’s thugs. Naturally Muhammad also promoted terrorism in his Koran.

    Muhammad speaking of his successful career (my caps):

    Bukhari 52,220 Allah’s Apostle said “..I have been made VICTORIOUS with TERROR (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping the treasures of the world were brought to me”

    Muhammad, Koran 7.4 How many a township have We destroyed! As a RAID by night, or while they slept at noon, OUR TERROR came unto them

    8.12 I will instill TERROR into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them

    8.60..strike TERROR into (the hearts of) the enemies…and OTHERS besides WHOM YE MAY NOT KNOW

    Interestingly, when Muslims began a war on the USA in 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams asked Tripoli’s ambassador why, and reported that he was told:

    “It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.”
    “He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy’s ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck SUCH TERROR into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.”

    Clearly, the value of terror, whether small-scale or large, has been understood by Muslims since Muhammad preached it up until the present day.

  • hadin

    Ideally. In reality it is defined by the actions of those who claim to adhere to it.

  • Awesome

    #2 is an analogy, that goes “A tree is known by its fruit”. It means your actions will determine how you are perceived by others, it is how others know you, regardless of what you say or claim.

    Yes, a person is defined by their actions. However, a religion is defined by its doctrine first and foremost.

  • Awesome

    I don’t understand why followers of the worst criminal in recorded human history, a criminal who explicitly preached terrorism as a technique for achieving conquest, would do these sorts of things!

    On the contrary, he was a divinely-directed lawgiver and potentate whose actions were lawful and necessary and whose adversaries were among the ‘worst criminals in recorded human history’, in which fighting and defeating them was necessary for defense and security.

    “Terrorism” is a contemporary political buzzword that is defined by the politicization of any offensive or criminal act and is used as a PR (Public-Relations) weapon against a political opponent, or the actions of a political opponent, by playing on the term’s commonly-held negative connotations without necessarily referring to any of them. It is therefore meaningless in any coherent discussion. It has nothing to do with tribal warfare – nor the laws and principles regarding it – in 7th century CE Arabia. It certainly wasn’t a “technique for achieving conquest”.

  • Awesome

    What kind of world do you live in where banning head scarves,and other such “oppression” excuses beheading someone?

    There is no world where the former excuses the latter. That is why it is a crime and why whoever is responsible for it, is a criminal. Thereafter, it is the responsibility of the police to bring the criminal to justice, the courts to pronounce justice on him, and the penal system to fulfill justice against him. The laws and the systems are there for a reason.

    However, the crimes are not only inexcusable, but, as I have already alluded to (and which you seem to have missed), they are also senseless, lacking in any reason because there is no connection between the victims of the crimes and the alleged motives for them. The sources of the grievances that allegedly inspire these criminals to commit these crimes in the first place are never targeted.

  • Khizer

    Where is your evidence of such absurd claims?

  • Leefromoz

    I don’t understand why followers of the worst criminal in recorded human history, a criminal who explicitly preached terrorism as a technique for achieving conquest, would do these sorts of things!

  • Khizer

    Like I said he did not say that the beheadings or other such terrorist acts were justified, he just mentioned the political climate in France which gives the crazy members of Muslim community in France a ‘Motive’ (a very flimsy one at that) to commit acts of terror. Most(though not all) of these radicalised individuals seem to be absolute failures in their own lives, needing some sort of ‘justification’ and ’cause’ to make them think of themselves as worthwhile individuals in this world (which they are not). France has supported the U.S. And other countries In the bombing of Syria, Which makes these retards believe that they have to commit terrorist acts in order to stop this ‘war on Muslims’, though it is more of a war for control and resources (though the constant bombing of Muslims in Muslim Countries by the west does help them feel ‘justified’ in their evil goals). These extremists are trying to strike terror in the hearts of the people of France (which they have been successful), hence many in the French community feel justified in harassing the French Muslim community (defacing of mosques, constant insults, isolating the Muslim community, considering them alien and dangerous). Many French people, however do not do this, and are in fact against this attitude towards French Muslims. The ‘oppression’ of the French Muslim community is deeper than just banning headscarves:
    http://www.loonwatch.com/2015/12/france-internment-camps/

    http://www.loonwatch.com/2015/12/aljazeera-france-to-close-over-100-mosques/

    http://www.loonwatch.com/2015/04/record-number-of-anti-muslim-acts-in-france/

    http://www.loonwatch.com/2015/03/france-pregnant-muslim-woman-attacked-beaten-for-wearing-hijab/

    http://www.loonwatch.com/2015/01/grenades-thrown-and-shots-fired-at-mosque-in-france/

    There are many more examples, but the basic point is that the constant isolation of the Muslim community, has allowed ISIS to easily find and radicalise the most isolated of the community and convince them that committing terrorism will ensure them a ‘better’ future them and all of the Muslim community (although these acts of terror further harm, isolate, and not mention also kill members of the Muslim community of France).

  • Khizer

    He did’nt mention beheading, and he did not make excuses for such violence, he was pointing out the reasons, why these crazy people in the Muslim community become extremists and the commit acts of terror out spit/revenge/some form of ‘justice’/etc. Stop being so sensitive to criticisms of French politicians and society(to a lesser extent).

  • hadin

    we established they are real

  • Just_Stopping_By

    A point made frequently at LW appearing (finally?) in the MSM:

    “When mass killers show even minor hints of affinity for jihadist groups,
    as they did in recent attacks in Orlando, Fla., and Nice, France, their
    actions are swiftly judged to be terrorism.
    But when their source of inspiration appears to be right-wing
    extremism, as Mr. Andrä speculated could be the case in Munich, they are
    often treated as disturbed loners.” http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/world/europe/terrorist-or-disturbed-loner-munich-attack-reveals-shifting-labels.html

  • sailorbill

    did you notice the shots in the windscreen was all from the one direction,I thought that would have been rather hard considering the truck was travelling and swerving at up to 100 kph.All on the passengers side?The lack of blood did seem unusual,particularly from the that had been dragged by the truck and on the truck it self(after hitting that amount of people at speed) .I understand the police are confiscating all CCTV copies of this incident(i believe that happened on 911 at the Pentagon)Why haven’t we seen more public evidence of this,1000s of people around with i phones ?

  • 1DrM

    No, perhaps some ESL classes might do you some good.

  • hadin

    Then we agree.

  • hadin

    That would be a problem, I admit.

  • Joey Sanders

    Exposed.

  • 1DrM

    Invading a sovereign nation(Iraq) and killing millions of its citizens over a decade and further destabilizing the region further with and client regimes and death squads(ISIS) by white Western terrorists are simple facts. The lies you stump for have no place, fool.

  • It isn’t me who is constrained to insist every few weeks that “no, my religion is *actually* peaceable. Now shut up & go back to sleep, kuffar.”

  • hadin

    Unfortunately the events taking place these days are all to real and not lies at all.

  • hadin

    Unfortunately the events that take place are not lies.

  • Tim Avila

    “Ahmadis are not Muslims”
    Really Illisha? Please explain.

  • 1DrM

    Yawn, the ever insane, Invertebrate aka Christofascist Instigator shares his inert “intelligence” again. I’ve lost track of the number of times Muslims handed your lying behind to you? Truth to you is like sunlight to a vampire. Fact check, pious hypocrite : Ahmadis(the British created sub-continental cult) aren’t Muslim, and the majority of terrorists around the world continue to be WHITE MALES from North American and Western Europe, they are also the terrorists behind ISIS aka Al-CIA 2.0. You’re a slave of Zionism, nothing more, nothing less, neutered Evangelical poodle.

    Now to repeat your previous humiliation at my hands, where are those fabled Iraqi WMDs, 13 years and 1.5 million dead Iraqis and counting? We know your type from the cancerous root to the rotting stinking fruit. For unfamiliar readers check out the examples below :
    mendacious

  • hadin

    #2 is an analogy, that goes “A tree is known by its fruit”. It means your actions will determine how you are perceived by others, it is how others know you, regardless of what you say or claim.

  • AJ

    They found his ID.

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