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Pamela Geller Watch: Islamophobia Is Not A Crime Against Humanity

Pamela Has a Big Head-Courtesy of Lex, Agent of Chaos

Pamela Geller, is up to her usual game, objecting to Turkish Prime Minsiter Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s statement that Islamophobia is indeed a crime against humanity.

Fear of Islamic Terrorism and Jihad is a Crime Against Humanity

According to the ummah, islamophobia is a crime against humanity. Hmmmmm. Well, perhaps because humanity has become inhumane and good is evil and evil is good. So fear of jihad is a crime against humanity.

Not surprisingly, Pamela illogically argues that anti-Islamophobia means pro-jihad and pro-terrorism. And so being pro-“Islamophobia”  means you’re against those things and it is therefore the common sense approach to Islam. Of course, being against Islamophobia means you’re against intolerance, irrationality, and hatred. But in Pamela’s alternate reality, it means you’re for evil. Islamophobia indisputably exists. In its worst form, it can manifest into a violent movement. What was motivating the murderer of Marwa Sherbini if it was not Islamophobia?

The Runnymede Trust defined eight components of Islamophobia which are widely accepted by racism and xenophobia monitoring organizations. These are:

1.) Islam is seen as a monolithic bloc, static and unresponsive to change.
2.) Islam is seen as separate and ‘other’. It does not have values in common with other cultures, is not affected by them and does not influence them.
3.) Islam is seen as inferior to the West. It is seen as barbaric, irrational, primitive and sexist.
4.) Islam is seen as violent, aggressive, threatening, supportive of terrorism and engaged in a ‘clash of civilisations’.
5.) Islam is seen as a political ideology and is used for political or military advantage.
6.) Criticisms made of the West by Islam are rejected out of hand.
7.) Hostility towards Islam is used to justify discriminatory practices towards Muslims and exclusion of Muslims from mainstream society.
8.) Anti-Muslim hostility is seen as natural or normal.

Consider that this accurate definition of Islamophobia was developed in 1997. Public perceptions of Muslims have only worsened since 9/11 and these eight components are resonating stronger among the public. I used to think that the anti-Muslim/anti-Islam sentiment would have lessened over time when people were able to examine the situation with a clear and open mind. To my surprise, the opposite is true: Islamophobia is on the rise.

Antisemitism and Islamophobia are on the rise across Europe, according to a survey of global opinion released yesterday.

In contrast to the US and Britain where unfavourable opinion of Jews has been stable and low for several years at between 7 and 9%, the Pew Survey of Global Attitudes found that hostile attitudes to Jews were rising all across continental Europe from Russia and Poland in the east to Spain and France in the west.

The survey found that suspicion of Muslims in Europe was considerably higher than hostility to Jews, but that the increase in antisemitism had taken place much more rapidly.

Islamophobes like to explain the rising antisemitism in Europe as being a product of rising Muslim immigration. This however does not explain, as an example, the rising antisemitism in Hungary, a country with virtually no Muslim population. It also does not explain, as the Guardian article pointed out, that antisemites also tend to be Islamophobes as well.

Pamela then quotes Robert Spencer, who asks (notice the quotes around Islamophobia):

Is “Islamophobia” really like anti-Semitism? Let’s see. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a forgery. Jews really don’t have a secret plan to control the world. Is concern about Islamic supremacism similarly trumped up? Or does Islam include a political manifestation that teaches world domination?

Yes, it is. The Islamophobes, whether they know it or not, mimic the tactics of classical anti-Semites. Antisemitic conspiracy theorists believe that Jews control the world through banking, by secretly taking over governments around the world, and by causing wars for their own self-interest. Similarly, Islamophobic conspiracy theorists believe that Muslims, through a combination of violent jihad and stealth Shari’ah, are out to “Islamize” world civilization and issue a dhimmi status on those who do not comply.  Both are loony toon theories, however, only one at the moment is socially acceptable to espouse.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan was making the humane point that, like antisemitism, Islamophobia must also be socially unacceptable for those who want to live in a tolerant society. Denying the fact that Islamophobia exists, believing it’s only a politically correct fantasy, is not only factually inaccurate, but a dangerous view that is meant to continue tensions between Muslims and non-Muslims. After all, correcting the misconceptions and lies against Muslims will put people like Geller and Spencer out of the polemical anti-Muslim business.

I end by sharing an excellent take on Islamophobia by a German cabaret artist (English subs).

[youtube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpprNYjQjnw 350 300]

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  • GOd help you U.S

    Islam is a lifestyle and faith religion we Muslims believes there is one God to control the universe and he send us sharia =our life style to live our best life and to give peace to others ,those who kills as muslins are doing it because alot of Muslims countries has wars that being started by non-Muslims countries like the US or the UK but again killing back is not really a salutation and saying all Muslims are murders is not fair.and when it comes to people like pamela i think she need to educate her-self about Islam it’s a major not only a religion with a few ideas and some laws there are Islamic studies collages dear and i went to one of them .she really sounds like some one who said:’doctors are bad because they use knifes some times

  • Ahmed

    @Bertha Dicks

    Please repost your comment; your grammar and spelling is so bad that I can barely understand a word you are saying. -_-

  • Bertha Dicks

    HAGEN RETHER , – an ugly, though intelligent, islam criticans basher and hate preacher. He turns reality on its head absolutly: Calculated against the few newspaper editions and against the Pope, when, after years of playing down the cruel reality of islam life and torment, they revealed some of the evil ( antisemite and worls-conspiracy faith) heart of Islam

  • Alex Botero

    Seems to me that Pam Geler’s islamophobia borders on the pathological at times . How could she ever deny that the Bosnians were victims of a crime against humanity ? Or maybe she doesn’t realize that no two cases of genocide are going to be identical in every single respect . Or maybe she’s too far gone to even think of that possibilty ?

  • Ustahd, I aim to please and few are better subjects than Pamela. She posts so many pics of herself on her blog, which is a big plus. My kids cheered me on when I stuck her head on Godzilla. Heeheehee!

    Wow! I’d LOVE to thank the person who wanted to check out my little Holiday Serving of Bigotry after reading my comment way above only to get to my pre-internet and now-internet arch-enemy and leaving a nice comment for HER. Gee, thanks. That girl is the punk far-left (and I’m pretty darned left myself) version of Pamela Geller.

    And again, Muslims here, how the heck do you deal with stupid post after idiotic blog after insane and/or homicidal comments against Islam? I mean, talk about tolerance, I can’t even imagine being insulted for my own Faith on such a regular basis! And I’m not even that religious!

  • Nissa

    @Cassidy

    I didn’t say you were fanatically pro-Israel…but by your own logic since everyone who is pro-Palestine is fanatically so and you paint the whole movement with the anti-semitic brush then I will have to think you do support those whackjobs jsut because you support Israel.
    Elements in the pro-Palestine movement might OK terrorism…that ignores the much larger part that is about social justive, civil disobedience and non-violent resistance plus global activism.

    I was at the marches during operation cast lead- they were not anti-Semitic…if anything, the little thugs who were burning Israeli flags were actively stopped and derided for their actions by people on the march. Also, the pro-Israel marches and demos were extremely anti-Arab, anti-Muslm and offensive in they way they lied and cried anti-semitism (You can see it on the net and I heard things from friends who held counter demos at the same time and were intimidated and verbally attacked) No word on that?
    Arabic is an official language because a huge proportion of Israel is Arab. It isn’t them being charitable and fair. The Supreme court might say one thing…but reality on the ground is different and it means nothing when literally a couple of KM away they are walling in and ruining Palestinisn lives whilst denying Israeli-Arabs the ability to assert their Palestinisn identity and connections.

    Institutions are not just codified laws….and actually the US’s laws do discriminate against Aboriginal and Native Americans. Institutional racism and oppression exists in everyday way these institutions function….since you are probably a middle aged white man- you would not have the same experiences as someone from a minority, especially a villified minority as Muslims are now.

  • Schlaftius

    This intelligent cabaret singer is called Hagen Rether.

  • Schlaftius

    Using Loony Gellers’ logic, Anti-Semitism is not a crime against humanity and celebrating the death of 6 million jews is pro-humanistic. Well done Geller, you leathery-faced old bitter zionist hag!!

  • The guy who’s not Imad :P

    hey i have a question is Islamophobia a lot of people, or just few people but with high positions in society? I always thought it was the latter, but now im not sure.

  • Cassidy

    @Nissa

    First of all I’m not fanatically pro-Israel I have zero support for the settler wackjobs for example. Second of all if zionism is nothing more than one big collection Arab haters that doesn’t really explain why Arabic is an official language in Israel and why the Israeli Supreme Court also ruled that the government cannot allocate land based on religion or ethnicity, and may not prevent Arab citizens from living wherever they choose.

    “Your logic is totally flawed, the civil rights movement had elements of racism and anti- does that mean it was not worth supporting?”

    A poor comparison the civil rights movement despite those racist elements was a peaceful movement, I can’t recall Martin Luther King encouraging bombings and even the most militant Black nationalist groups look like kittens compared to palestinian terrorists

    “You just characterised everyone who is for a fair and just resolution in Palestine as an anti-semite”

    No I merely pointed out that anti-semitism run heavily through anti-Israel movements, just look at the hateful protests that took place during operation cast lead.

    “it is a tired tactic to discredit a movement that is by and large about justice.”

    I’m sorry but given the sheer amount of support for terrorism (I’ve lost count of the pro-palestinian websites that praise the PIRA) and anti-semitism the movement is not exactly about justice.

    “America does have institutionlised oppression”

    I’m afraid that’s false due to anti-discrimination law, the closest thing America has to institutionalized discrimination would be states that don’t allow for same sex marriage.

  • Cassidy

    @1001 Muslim Inventions

    First of all it amuses me that your ‘reply’ is shrill whining and baseless accusations (apparently I’m part of a conspiracy to harvest IP addresses) and no real response to my post.

    “Therefore i am not going to waste time, going through your garbage.”

    That’s because you don’t have a leg to stand on, second of all if you didn’t want to waste your time you shouldn’t have typed up this laughable whiney reply.

    “I don’t hesitate to take on time wasters if i see them, so there is no need for you to point out who I may have missed.”

    You miss my point people on here such as DrM have posted bigoted yet you remained silent about them but yet you whine about me? A clear example of hypocrisy.

    “If you note, people object to your presence here, mainly because you have nothing to offer and you’re a “diverter.”

    Yes I’ve gone off topic a few times but so have other posters here.

    “You’re just an envious bigot, who wants to discredit Islam using any means possible.”

    You have defended islamic slavery and tried to paint it as ‘humane’ so you’re the bigot here and yes I’m critical of islam however I’m not an anti-muslim fanatic like geller or spencer.

    “Check the links i gave you and learn”

    Ah yes your links, one website you posted muslimheritage claims that islam abolished slavery a complete lie that mirrors genocide denial; so I think if anyone here needs to learn it’s you.

    “it was obvious in the posts above what was meant but you insist on painting Erdogan a vile bigot”

    If he isn’t a bigot why can’t you refute the facts I posted?

    “perhaps you would also agree that the US is too, for supporting the Israeli genocide of Palestians, but you won’t say that, and if you don’t like it, you twist it to fit your narrative.”

    A terrible argument I’m talking about an individual not an entire country or government second of all you are in no position to criticize Israel since you have defended islamic slavery and your whining about Israel is nothing more than attempt to divert attention from the fact that you lost this argument.

    “Cassidy, You’ve outstayed your welcome here. You’re an annoyance. Do the right thing and go. Come on, now, PACK YOUR BAGS. OUT.”

    Wow I had no idea that you own this website!

  • Cassidy

    “The analogy of Erdogen being an anti-semite and comparing that to Robert Spencer saying he doesn’t hate Muslims, is breathtaking in its sheer stupidity. Is Cassidy really this stupid?”

    You really missed my point which is that Erdogan’s ‘condemnation’ of anti-Semitism doesn’t set him apart from other bigots, countless anti-gay morons for example claim that they don’t hate LGBT people however like Erdogan their actions and words say otherwise.

    “Hey Nissa, he seems to have developed an unhealthy interest in debating with you. Beware of temptation, though, he could have been sent by one of teh Loons to harvest IP addresses by email, by pretending to want to debate.”

    How’s that tin foil fez feel? Also the middle east nuke issue is a different topic, I’m not in the mood to discuss that, mkay?

  • Nabeela

    Does anyone see the contradictions and pirouhettes in Cassidy’s posts? Too numerous to mention. I can’t believe his sheer stubborness, hemust have a lot of time to waste.

    The analogy of Erdogen being an anti-semite and comparing that to Robert Spencer saying he doesn’t hate Muslims, is breathtaking in its sheer stupidity. Is Cassidy really this stupid? If so then, he needs to go back to school. He also has the gall of comparing apples to oranges when that is all he has ever done here. He only addresses that which he wants and ignores the rest. Selectively picks out what he can use to further his prejedice and ignores that which proves his ignorance.

    There are holes so big in his statements (and his other analogies and comparisons) that elephants could walk through.

    His obsessive insistence on debating by email is extremely suspicious.

    Hey Nissa, he seems to have developed an unhealthy interest in debating with you. Beware of temptation, though, he could have been sent by one of teh Loons to harvest IP addresses by email, by pretending to want to debate.

    It’s more appropriate to ask why Cassidy doesn’t support Iran’s nuclear programme, because Israel has over 200 nuclear war heads. Every country in the Middle East is justified in developing nuclear weapons until Israel gives up her nuclear weaponery. Cassidy should also be asking why the international community is not helping Saudi Arabia, UAE, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria in developing nuclear weapons. What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

    Cassidy cannot lay out his thoughts in a coherant manner. I think he doesn’t know how to, that’s why he jumps from one point to another completely unrelated subject, and tries desperately to link them together. Even when there is no link.

    Astonishing. Even more astonishing is that he refuses to leave Loon Watch.

    Cassidy, go and start your own forum on Blogger you moron. It’s free and you have nothing to lose. Nobody here is interested in your ramblings.

  • Nissa

    @Cassidy

    Well then you really shouldn’t be so pro-Israel since the entire Zionist project is built upon dehumanising Arabs (and by extenstion Muslims) and the anti-Arab racism present in the IDF, Israeli politics and the neo-con movement that supports Israel so blindly is part of how they gather support against the Palestinians.

    Your logic is totally flawed, the civil rights movement had elements of racism and anti- does that mean it was not worth supporting? You just characterised everyone who is for a fair and just resolution in Palestine as an anti-semite….it is a tired tactic to discredit a movement that is by and large about justice. And it isn’t just the movement- you have on more than one occassion denied that Palestinians have suffered at all bringing up the Copts as having it worse- as pointless as oppression olympics are- I do think the Palestinians would win gold.

    America does have institutionlised oppression, it might say one thing in your constitution and you might not think it is as bad as Egypt but the reality is quite different for a lot of minorities and you don’t live it.

  • Cassidy,

    Same old rehashed nonsense, and are you blind, or have a short memory? Nissa made it clear she is not interested in debating you offline, but once again you insist on inisist.

    To the other readers,

    I think Cassidy is here to harvest IP addresses so don’t email her/him. His/her presence here is really peculiar. Why doesn’t he go to forums instead of accosting members here and then ask them to email him/her under the guise of “debating”

    and Cassidy, I don’t believe you actually read what is there, but only see what YOU want to see, you also interpret it how you want, and not how whomever was saying/meant to say.

    Therefore i am not going to waste time, going through your garbage.

    I don’t hesitate to take on time wasters if i see them, so there is no need for you to point out who I may have missed. If you note, people object to your presence here, mainly because you have nothing to offer and you’re a “diverter”. You’re a nuisance.

    “As for those quotes you posted yes islamic invaders did indeed steal knowledge from others such as the fact that ‘arabic’ numerals ”

    You’re just an envious bigot, who wants to discredit Islam using any means possible. The facts speak for themselves. Check the links i gave you and learn, but you’re not interested in that. Your comment about the numerals display spectacular ignorance, or i’d say just plain envy.

    Now pack your bags and get out of here.

    You’re a total timewaster, you repeat your prejediced line again and again, same old, same old… You see what you want to see, and hear what you want to hear, and ignore the rest…it was obvious in the posts above what was meant but you insist on painting Erdogan a vile bigot, perhaps you would also agree that the US is too, for supporting the Israeli genocide of Palestians, but you won’t say that, and if you don’t like it, you twist it to fit your narrative.

    I can rebut every sentence of your garbage that you wrote above, but i’m not going to waste time, as you wouldn’t read or understand but just repeat your own nonsence.

    Cassidy, You’ve outstayed your welcome here. You’re an annoyance. Do the right thing and go. Come on, now, PACK YOUR BAGS. OUT.

    Shut the door after you

  • Cassidy

    @Nissa

    Yes the free palestine movement is bs since there’s no shortage of anti-semitism in the movement and a lot of support for physical force Irish republicanism, (the PLO and the PIRA go way back) so I can’t support something like that. Second of all I don’t believe that American Muslims should be expected to condemn terrorism 24/7 that would be as absurd as expecting Basque-Americans to condemn ETA terrorism 24/7. And I wasn’t trying to minimalize hate crimes against American Muslims, it seemed to me that emperor was attempting to paint America as a land of people who hate muslims something that irritates me and I brought up Egypt to illustrate the difference between a nation that has institutionalized oppression and a nation that doesn’t.

    “I don’t remember any of Canadian Muslims posts”

    Check out danios’ post about sharia.

  • Cassidy

    @J Street Supporter

    1. You’re comparing apples to oranges, yes quite a few countries haven’t recognized the genocide, however Erdogan’s case is quite different, he got offended at the thought of apologizing to Armenia and is on the record denying the genocide, thus he clearly has a Turkish supremacist mentality. If an Israeli politician claimed that the Republic of Serbia doesn’t owe Bosnian muslims an apology and the ethnic cleansing of Bosnian muslims never happened would you be okay with that?

    2. First off we have no way of knowing what Erdogan said to al-bashir and he didn’t want to offend anyone he shouldn’t have invited in the first place. Your interpretation of his words don’t matter since you admitted that Erdogan wants to be friends with bashir, why is it that that doesn’t bother you? If Robert Spencer wanted to be friends with ratko mladic who slaughtered countless Muslims at Srebrenica would you be okay with that as well? As this article proves Erdogan has zero sympathy for the victims of the darfur genocide:

    http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-192402-prime-minister-erdogan-reiterates-no-genocide-in-darfur.html

    3. For starters by saying that the media is ‘Jew backed’ he revealed that he has anti-Semitic fantasies about Jewish control and his ‘condemnation’ of anti-semitism is nothing but a ploy Robert Spencer claims that he doesn’t hate muslims but like Erdogan his actions and words say otherwise. And I’m not going to reply to your rant about nukes because it has extremely to do with what I actually posted and your fantasies about the media being neo con controlled are just that; fantasies.

    “No Darter didn’t lose the high ground, why isn’t Israel recognising the term? are you going to say Israel is a bigoted nation now?”

    I’m afraid he did when you praise somebody who made bigoted remarks while claiming to condemn bigotry the point’s kind of lost. Second of all you’re comparing apples to oranges yes there are nations that don’t recognize the genocide however have any of them offended at the thought of an apology to Armenia and have blatantly denied the genocide and those countries have never imprisoned anyone for speaking out against the Armenian genocide like Turkey has.

    “Cassidy, I have asked you before to pack your bags and go.”

    Your hypocrisy amuses me, why is that you haven’t asked the people here such as Canadian muslim who posted offensive material on danios’ shariah entry? Second of all (Nabeela) you have defended islamic slavery, which means that you are in no position to try to take the high ground.

    “If you’re not a sabateour, you’re just a confused, poorly educated (about Islamic history ) person, who is wasting your and our time here. Are you a lonely keyboard warrior? why don’t you join an anti erdogen or anti hamas forum?”

    Interesting, in multiple parts of your post you didn’t use proper grammar and yet you claim I’m poorly educated….. Also I’m afraid that you’re the keyboard warrior here since you beat your chest about how you’re ‘fighting islamophobia.’

    “I can understand pro Islam and anti Islam people posting here, but pet peeve is to always chide us.”

    As for those quotes you posted yes islamic invaders did indeed steal knowledge from others such as the fact that ‘arabic’ numerals were actually invented by Hindu Indians and yes the claim that hamas would just go away if Israel did this or this is absurd since Hamas’ ultimate goal is the destruction of Israel. Also I don’t call myself anti-islam since that implies that I want to demolish mosques or ban hijabs or something like that.

  • Cassidy

    “Cassidy is an obfuscator, pure and simple.”

    Hmmm interesting why is that you object to me but have never refuted any of the bigoted posters on here such as canadian muslim?

    I’ve also noticed how touchy he gets when people who are strongly opposed to Israeli war crimes are brought up.”

    An example please?

    Erdogan, is no anti-Semite, and that is what irks you the most.”

    Realllly? Then why is that he thinks hamas should be recognized and that the media is controlled by Jews?

    “He is a strong leader who condemned Israeli war crimes that is why you are upset. You won’t even address Israeli war crimes without bringing up other people’s crimes, your retort is “it’s okay cuz they are worse than Israel.”

    Actually Israel has played a very small part in my arguments I don’t want to turn this into another debate about israel. If you do want to debate about that email me at:

    Wilburwhately48@gmail.com

    “Erdogan, has clearly condemned anti-Semtisim”

    In that case do you also believe that Robert Spencer doesn’t hate muslims? After all spencer claims that he doesn’t hate muslims.

    “he also signed a peace agreement with Armenia, something I m sure Armenia wouldn’t do if they thought Erdogan hated Armenians.”

    If he doesn’t hate Armenians then why is that he got offended at the thought of a richly deserved apology to Armenia?

    “Furthermore, his comment that “a Muslim cannot commit genocide” is not a hint at supremacism, what an idiotic comment “Cassidy” but it is a teaching he is reiterating of ISlam AGAINST KILLING!! He might be naive on Bashir, but don’t try to put into his mouth what he didn’t say.”

    Wrong very wrong, by staying that he was denying the darfur genocide, did I mention that he claims that there is no genocide in darfur?

    http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-192402-prime-minister-erdogan-reiterates-no-genocide-in-darfur.html

    So clearly the man’s a bigot since he whines about palestinian Arabs 24/7 but couldn’t care less about the thousands of Black victims of darfur.

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