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New York: Predictably, The So-Called “Islamorealism” Ads are Based in Bigotry and Lies

The above ads are appearing at Metro-North stations in New York. A continuation of Islamophobic activists Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller‘s AFDI/SIOA racist and anti-Muslim/Islam advertisement campaign.

In light of recent hate attacks, 8 over a period of 11 days, and another possible attack yesterday, the attempted firebombing of a Muslim family’s home in Panama City, Florida, can we not consider such advertisements to be an incitement to violence?

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If these ads are not a form of “false advertisement,” at the very least they are a form of false and inaccurate information that is being disseminated to the general public, making the masses more ignorant.

Factually, the number of “*19,250 Islamic attacks (*and counting)” is a purposeful fabrication. To label such attacks as “Islamic” is not only offensive but a dangerous and ignorant essentialization of Islam and the very broad and variegated phenomenon of terrorism in Muslim majority countries and the West. It tells us nothing about the so-called “terrorist” attacks themselves; what criteria was used to judge them “terrorist” or “Islamic”; nor about who or what created the “terrorism.” It purposefully reinforces the Islamophobic myths that Islam, a religion of over 1.5 billion people worldwide, that is over 1400 years old is a unified, monolithic and totalitarian force that is inherently obligated to wreak random and terrible violence. Also notice the intentional and shameless exploitation of 9/11 in the ad, “…Since 9/11/01.”

What is strangely not mentioned in the advertisements is that this so-called “Islamic Terrorism ticker” that gives us the oddly precise round number of 19,250 is taken from the anti-Muslim website “The Religion of Peace” (TROP). In a previous article I pointed out that the methodology by which TROP arrived at these inflated numbers is very deceptive.

Even a cursory glance at TROP’s list of so-called “Islamic terrorist attacks” reveals it to be nothing more than a deeply biased, propagandistic spin-job that conflates:  real terrorist attacks, (semi)religious/culturally motivated crimes, attacks on military personnel and attacks by secular groups with no ideological basis in Islam — all in theaters of occupation, civil war and separatist conflict.

I cited a sampling of the attacks they claimed were so-called “Islamic terrorism” from a period of just one month that on further inspection proved not to be related to either “terrorism” or “Islam.” Many of the attacks listed by TROP relate to nationalist insurgencies, such as the conflict involving Baluchi nationalists seeking independence from Pakistan. Some of the attacks listed by TROP are in fact crimes committed by Muslims or people with Muslim sounding names that have nothing to do with Islam or terrorism, such as honor killings, the killing of local policemen, petty assault, etc.

In the end I wonder if there are any actionable grounds to contest these advertisements? Even though they are not selling a product they are promoting hate propaganda based on fabricated and faulty information, and hence are doing an immense disservice to the general population.

by James Arkin (NYDailyNews)

The Metro-North is once again the center of a controversy over potentially offensive billboards.

Greenburgh Town Supervisor Paul Feiner is urging Metro-North to put up ads of its own in response to “inflammatory” postings in the Hartsdale station.

The ad in question, sponsored by the American Freedom Defense Initiative, lists the number of deadly Islamic attacks since 9/11″[This needs to be challenged and not just stated as fact–Ed.] and says “It’s not Islamophobia, It’s Islamorealism.”

Feiner says the ad can’t be removed, but is offensive. He wants Metro-North to warn passengers that the ads could be upsetting and don’t represent Metro-North’s views or that of the community.

“There are many Muslims residing in Greenburgh and in our villages,” he said. “They should not be discriminated against. the posters encourage hatred, discrimination and do not help the efforts to fight hate crimes.”

After lots of feedback — positive and negative — from residents concerning the ads, Feiner added that he will recommend the Metro-North donate profits from the ad to education campaigns against discrimination.

“I feel it’s not a violation of free speech for Metro North to put up a competing sign and it’s also not a violation of free speech if they donate the profits to an anti-defamation league or an organization that objects to hate crimes,” he said. “I feel that it should be clear that the people of Metro North and the town do not support this message.”

AFDI executive director Pamela Geller said the ad is not hate speech, but merely a statement of fact.

“There is nothing hateful, mean-spirited, or offensive about opposing jihad terror,” she said in an email. “Are the facts offensive? It is, as the ad says, Islamorealistic. Islamic supremacist imams around the world foment violence, promote hatred, teach children to hate, and exhort Muslims to gain a place in Paradise by murdering infidels.”

The MTA lost a recent federal court case to Geller, who sued after the MTA banned an advertisement, saying it violated standards prohibiting language that demeans an individual or group.

The MTA declined further comment and said its position has not changed on the issue.

Feiner is not the first politician to complain about offensive advertisements on the railroad: The MTA faced a controversy in July over potentially offensive billboards concerning the Israel-Palestine conflict.

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  • Christian-Friend

  • Talking_fish_head

    Don’t forget the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were almost 140,000 men, women, and children were murdered in an instant

  • 1DrM

    Carlos lies yet again. There’s ALWAYS context, you deceptive coward. You just proved you never read the Qur’an. That’s why you didn’t cite the verses BEFORE and AFTER. It’s because you copied and pasted them from hate sites you frequent. No context and tafseer. Explain this verse then :

    Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for [your] faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly
    with them: for Allah loves those who are just. (Al-Mumtahanah 60:5)

    The Bible condones perverse, immoral and criminal acts while the Quran not, the violence of the Quran is violence in a military context like the violence of the Ramayana and the Kalachakra Tantra. There is no justification for genocides and infanticides like those described in the Bible in any historical context, to try to justify those acts like hypocrite “judeochristian” apologists do is a gross and disgusting case of double moral standards. Why did you run away when I answered and challenged you, fool? You still haven’t backed up a single one of your claims, you fascist scab.

  • golden izanagi
  • Guess

    “None of the events that you mentioned are related to religion. And my point is that Islam is a violent religión.”

    Ah ha, I had a feeling you were going to comeback with this outdated nonsense soon as you threw your oblivious “challenge” — ie, when a Muslim does bad its because of Islam, but when a Christian does bad it has nothing to do with “religión”.

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1007-03.htm

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-military-weapons-inscribed-secret-jesus-bible-codes/story?id=9575794

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/04/soldiers-in-afghanistan-g_n_195674.html

  • Christian-Friend

    Podeis odiar Islam todo lo que querais, pero al final del dia la gente nos es tan tonta para caer en los trucos de tus lideres.

  • carlos gonzalez

    None of the events that you mentioned are related to religion. And my point is that Islam is a violent religión.

  • Mehdi

    Cool stuff Ilisha, may I add some items?
    – Can we include colonization and the genocides perpetrated in the name of civilization towards Amerindians?
    – The colonization in Africa and slavery towards the Americas (let’s be fair and also include the slavery perpetrated by Arabs)
    – How about inquisition and the morisco ethnic cleansing in Spain? Or is it beyond the 500 year rule?
    I’ll try to think of some other items, in the meanwhile I’ll get some popcorn and my 3D googles, let the show begin!!!

  • Mehdi

    No hay ni fuente ni razon con el… Mejor no perder mas tiempo.

  • 1DrM

    You’re lying again, Carlos. Which Christian Churches are you carping about? The ones in Iraq destroyed by the Anglo-American Christian terrorists you support? Funny how you so called Christians are so silent on the Dechristionization of Palestine by “israel.” Bethlehem remained a Christian majority city throughout centuries of Muslim rule yet in just a few decades of “israeli” occupation, most of the local Christians left. I’m still waiting for your “sources.” There are thousands of Churches in the Muslim world which remain unharmed. Now contrast this with the almost daily attacks on mosques through out the West. Do you even know YOUR own history, fool. Apparently not. The BEST Muslims are those who practice their religion and would never engage in injustice.
    Let me educate your ignorant behind further :
    In 628 C.E. Prophet Muhammad (saw) granted a Charter of Privileges to the monks of St. Catherine Monastery in Mt. Sinai. It consisted of several clauses covering all aspects of human rights including such topics as the protection of Christians, freedom of worship and movement, freedom to appoint their own judges and to own and maintain their property, exemption from military service, and the right to protection in war.
    An English translation of that document is presented below.

    “This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them.
    Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them.
    No compulsion is to be on them.
    Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries.
    No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses.
    Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.
    No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight.
    The Muslims are to fight for them.
    If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray.
    Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants.
    No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).”

    Thomas Arnold, commenting on an Islamic source, states that,
    “…the Christians called down blessings on the heads of the Muslims, saying, ‘MAY GOD GIVE YOU RULE OVER US AGAIN and make you victorious over the Romans; had it been they, they would not have given us back anything, but would have taken all that remained with us.’”

    The Islamic belief is not forced upon people once land is taken, 1400 years of history bears testament to this. This is evident in the early testimonies of Christian leadership. Ishoyabth who was patriarch from AD 647 to 657, writes,
    “The Arabs, to who God gave the dominion over the world, behave to us as you know. They are not hostile to Christianity, but praise our religion, honor priests and saints, and help the Churches and Monasteries.”
    Zion Zohar, Sephardic & Mizrahi Jewry, P. 8-9.

    The famous letter from a Rabbi, after Europe’s persecution of the Jews, found in Phillip Mansel’s book “Constantinople ”
    “Here in the land of the Turks we have nothing to complain of. We possess great fortunes; much gold and silver are in our hands. We are not oppressed with heavy taxes and our commerce is free and unhindered. Rich are the fruits of the earth. Everything is cheap and every one of us lives in peace and freedom…”

    I can give you more examples but I don’t think a petty liar like you can handle it. Your head would probably explode from overexposure to FACTS.

  • 1DrM

    Hey Carlos, why did you run away? Let the record that you disappeared when I asked you to back up your bullcrap. You can just cut and paste for hours from Nazi websites but not debate, you cowardly rodent.

  • Christian-Friend

    y la fuente de eso?

  • 1DrM

    Don’t play childish games with me, Carlos. You made claims about Islam, now present your proof or else shut your lying little mouth. I gave plenty of evidence from my post which you conveniently ignored. Are you really that eager to get your ass handed to you? What “world press” are you babbling about? The same western state media which brainwashed you into believing that Iraq was responsible for 911 and had WMD? Why are you so silent on the mass murder of millions of Iraqis by Anglo-Anglo Christian terrorists? Why no response, amigo?

    Show you one example of Hindu terrorist attacks? I’ll show you just EIGHT:

    Gujurat riots and ethnic cleansing of 2002
    Samjhauta Express bombing of 2007
    Ajmer Sharif Dargah bombing of 2007

    Hyderabad Mecca masjid bombing of 2007

    Malegaon bomb blasts of 2008
    Orissa attacks of 2008
    Karnataka attacks of 2010

    Muzaffaranagar riots of 2013

    Guess you missed all those and others in your “reading of world press.” The sad reality is that you are an uneducated simple minded cowardly fool and liar, Carlos. You don’t stand a chance in a real debate. Don’t let me catch you lying and trolling here again. Either bring your evidence or be silent.

  • CriticalDragon1177

    Let me give you some advice. Stop listening to people who are part of the anti Muslim “counter jihad.” You came here without having any idea as to what things like Taqiyya actually are, other than the things those bigots tell you about them, much of which are utter falsehoods, that can easily be debunked. Than you accuse us of ignorance because we don’t think Islam is a violent religion and Muslims are savages.

  • Christian-Friend

    Pues lo siento amigo, pero aqui se trae la evidencia. No te podemos creer si no la tienes.

  • golden izanagi

    really the “taqiyya” card yes I am very familiar with the concept and no it is not a religious sanctioned deception as that is something robert spencer or pamela geller will often tell you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjZSJg1HQpc and about the whole “muslims not helping” thing http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Africa/2012/0710/After-attacks-Kenyan-Muslims-guard-Christian-churches
    http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=222601&catid=3

  • carlos gonzalez

    You are the one who has to bring proof; all I have
    to do is to tell you read world press to probe my point,Show me at least one newspaper saying something about Hindu´s terrorist attacks

  • carlos gonzalez

    Are you familiar with the concept of Taqiyya, I don’t see any Muslims doing charity work or helping Jewish people in the middle east, all I see is violence everywhere there is substantial Muslim community

  • golden izanagi

    http://www.jta.org/2013/03/07/news-opinion/world/muslim-group-helps-save-ancient-english-synagogue “violent and full of hate” really like those muslims in the link above helping a synagogue out or are you referring to these muslims doing charity work during ramadan http://www.voanews.com/content/us-muslims-focus-on-charity-during-ramadan/1710573.html

  • 1DrM

    Wrong yet again. You don’t know anything about Islam and Muslims. Hate sermons? Bring forth your proof, liar. The rest of your comment is a testament to ignorance and stupidity. Where have you been, fool? Hiding under a rock? Fact check : Buddhists have been committing terrorism in Sri Lanka, Thailand and Myanmar. Hindus regularly engage in terrorism in and out of India eg – Sang Parivar, RSS, Shiv Sena, VHP, Bajrang Dal, BJP. Anglo-American Christians have been committing terrorism in the Middle East and other places for a long, long time. YOU are the experts in “blowing people up.” 1.5 million dead Iraqis alone should make even a moron like you think. I can go on and on with THOUSANDS of examples but I’ve save those for your next online humiliation.
    Face reality Carlos, uneducated fools like you would be crushed in a real debate on terrorism.

  • carlos gonzalez

    know Islam very well and I can tell you Muslims that follows the Quran and the teachings of Muhammad are violent and full of hate. I have heard the preaching in the Mosques, how they refer to the infidels. You don’t see that many Hinduisms or Christians blowing themself into pieces, you don’t see that many Buddhists perpetrating terrorist acts, the vast majority of terrorist attacks are Islam relate. For the record I may have some spelling errors, if you want we can have this conversation in Spanish that is my mother language.

  • 1DrM

    Who says we’re liberal, teabagging excrement? Spencer relies on functional illiterates like you. The real statistics don’t lie…the majority of terrorists are white males like you…go ask any relatives of the 1.5 million dead Iraqis for starters. Got WMD, fool?

  • 1DrM

    Wrong on all counts. You’re the ignorant liar here, and your spelling sucks as well.

  • carlos gonzalez

    The author of this article is either ignorant or a lier . Islam is a violent religion that preaches hate. No all Muslims condone violence, but the pious ones, the ones that follow and practice Islam, do.

  • Just Stopping By

    @Géji says, “I wished I had the same opportunity with my Jewish brethren, where they gather to cat fight!”

    I do hope that you have the opportunity to do so at some point. But, I also remember a lot of your attitudes, so I think you will be disappointed in the reception you would receive in most of those discussions, certainly the political ones like the Pakistan one above.

    So that I am not too vague, how about the following? Come up with a list of several things you believe that Israel has done wrong. Now come up with a list of an equal number of things that Israel has done right, going for a similar level of importance (and something like “moving from being totally evil to partially evil” does not count). If you can’t create two lists like that, you probably won’t get too far in any of the discussions that I tend to be involved in. Our cat fights have moved well beyond the question of whether one group is 100% right or wrong.

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