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Coward John Patrick Deuel Charged For Attempting to Rip Off Muslim Mother’s Veil, Cloak

Smirky coward Deuel. He won't be smirking in jail.

Smirky coward Deuel. He won’t be smirking in jail.

Cretins such as Deuel exist in this world. Isn’t it time we asked what is wrong with privileged White males taking their aggression out on women?

Michigan man charged for attempting to pull off Muslim mom’s veil, cloak: report

By Carol Kuruvulla (NYDailyNews)

A Michigan man is facing jail time for an alleged assault against a Muslim mom.

Jonathan Patrick Deuel, 29, was charged with ethnic intimidation and misdemeanor assault and battery on Thursday for what Muslim activists are calling a “hate crime.”

The July 19 attack came as the woman and her family were enjoying a day at a Meridian Township mall. The 26-year-old woman was walking to her car with her 5-year-old daughter when a group of three — two men and one woman — surrounded her. According to the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the attackers attempted to pull off the woman’s niqab and abaya — the traditional veil and cloak that some Muslim women wear in public.

The woman was allegedly knocked to the ground while her attackers shouted slurs and cursed at her. The assailants fled after the woman’s husband heard her cries and rushed to the scene.

The mom was hospitalized for 36 hours, complaining of chest pain and a numbness in her left arm.

Meridian Township Police announced that Deuel will be the only suspect charged in the attack. The ethnic intimidation charge is a felony which could cost Deuel up to two years in prison and a $5,000 fine, MLive reports. The misdemeanor charge could carry an imprisonment of up to 93 days and fines of up to $500.

CAIR-Michigan’s executive director Dawud Walid welcomed the charges against Deuel on Friday, but said he was “disappointed” that the other two attackers remained on the loose.

“There are two other reported culprits and neither one of them has been charged,” Walid told The News.

Walid said that the woman and her husband, a PhD student, were Saudi nationals.

“She’s recuperated from the physical injuries, which weren’t very severe,” Walid said. “But she’s still traumatized mentally.”

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  • Awesome


    The other thing is, ‘hijab’ is a concept, and not just what someone wears. Hijab is to be modest in EVERYTHING, including ones thoughts…and yes, this includes the thoughts that men have toward women.

    – Hijab is a concept, but what a person wears in public is as important a part of the hijab as their actions, words, attitudes and intentions. However, as far as I know, no one is held accountable for their idle thoughts.

    Men and women are designed to have desires towards each other, and “purifying the heart” is not about removing those desires completely (otherwise intimacy between husband and wife would be impossible), but about compartmentalizing them out of the public, which the hijab (for both men and women) facilitates.

    It’s strange having to explain over and over again, the basic reasons and principles behind public decency. It’s somehow okay for secular societies to have rules and cultural norms about it, but when religions do, it’s seen as a problem. Is there no end to the hypocrisy?


    Your comment shows your misunderstanding of the concept of ‘hijab’ because you associate it with ‘concealment’, rather than public conduct that includes what you wear.

    – I associate it with “concealment” because that is how it is defined in the Qur’an and because this discussion is more or less about a divinely-ordained public dress code. That it may mean more than that is besides the point.

  • Nur

    The other thing is, ‘hijab’ is a concept, and not just what someone wears. Hijab is to be modest in EVERYTHING, including ones thoughts…and yes, this includes the thoughts that men have toward women.
    Your comment shows your misunderstanding of the concept of ‘hijab’ because you associate it with ‘concealment’, rather than public conduct that includes what you wear.

  • Awesome


    You mean men can be desensitized to thinking of women as sex objects because they see too much skin?

    – No. Quite the opposite actually. Some men think of women as “sex objects” because they “see too much skin”. Overexposure eventually ruins the attraction but doesn’t do much else. Men stop thinking of women as “sex objects” when women are no longer advertised as “sex objects”.

    My point, however, was on the importance of men and women actually wearing their respective hijabs, and one of the hijab’s benefits is that it happens to protect men and women from becoming desensitized to each other where they are no longer able to find each other attractive.


    Well, whose fault is that? You mean Islam is not enough to overpower the urge to misuse women?

    – Islam is a religion. A religion, by itself, does not actually do anything. It is those who have faith in a religion that do things, sometimes in accordance with it and sometimes in spite of it.


    Funny how men sing a different tune when women hold them to their own hijab.

    – Funny how people all of sudden become collectivized into groups (rather than being regarded as individuals) when an argument is being made against one in favor of another.

    Are you aware of what the male hijab is actually supposed to conceal?

  • Nur

    You mean men can be desensitized to thinking of women as sex objects because they see too much skin?
    Well, whose fault is that? You mean Islam is not enough to overpower the urge to misuse women?
    Funny how men sing a different tune when women hold them to their own hijab.

  • Awesome

    As a woman, I think that men should purify their thoughts about women,
    and not see us as just sex objects, no matter what a woman might wear.
    I am not understanding, that this conversation as gone so long, and most
    all of the responders were men, that none of you…especially the
    Muslims, doesn’t understand that the concept of ‘hijab’ includes the
    mindset between one person to another.
    Why aren’t the Muslim men responders talking about the ‘hijab’ of their minds?

    – “Purifying” thoughts is all well and good. However, when it comes to appearances, there is a point where “purifying thoughts” about it desensitizes men and women to what they should naturally be attracted to regarding it. When a person is trained to not be stimulated by certain stimuli, they
    eventually become desensitized to the stimuli and are no longer
    able to be stimulated by it at all.

    What are people supposed to be stimulated by in private if they are expected to desensitize themselves to everything in public?

    In this case, desensitization encourages impotency and ruins human
    sexuality, which results in all sorts of negative consequences.

    It also seems somewhat contradictory to dress to attract the opposite sex, but then not want the opposite sex to react accordingly.

    What is worn in sight of the opposite sex is as important (if not more so) than purifying thoughts when interacting with the opposite sex.

  • God commands both the men to not look at non-mehrems and also the women to hide their beauty from non-mehrems. It’s is explicitly stated in the Quran:

    Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and be modest. That is purer for them. Lo! Allah is aware of what they do. [24:30]

    And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands or fathers or husbands’ fathers, or their sons or their husbands’ sons, or their brothers or their brothers’ sons or sisters’ sons, or their women, or their slaves, or male attendants who lack vigour, or children who know naught of women’s nakedness. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And turn unto Allah together, O believers, in order that ye may succeed. [24:31]

  • Your argument that God should see the inner modesty of us instead of expecting an outside symbol for it is equivalent to a woman, that keeps her house unkept and dirty, saying to another person to see it in her heart how clean she is instead of being judged by the filth in her house.

  • The problem with religion is that a woman is either chaste, or soiled, and nothing is in between.

    Can you bring up the verse that would define a woman as “soiled”? Are you confusing “sinned” with “soiled” since sins can be forgiven and nobody needs to wear a “sinned” badge forever. Do cultures forgive it? Don’t know but God does.

  • Nur

    As a woman, I think that men should purify their thoughts about women, and not see us as just sex objects, no matter what a woman might wear.
    I am not understanding, that this conversation as gone so long, and most all of the responders were men, that none of you…especially the Muslims, doesn’t understand that the concept of ‘hijab’ includes the mindset between one person to another.
    Why aren’t the Muslim men responders talking about the ‘hijab’ of their minds?

  • Awesome


    I agree, physical attractiveness can be altered in such a way to attract the opposite sex. Those things that alter a woman’s attractiveness include in some cultures what she wears.

    – Physical attractiveness attracts the opposite sex naturally. Scents and voices can attract/repel anyone, regardless of gender.

    At this point, it seems important to clarify that “attraction” can mean different things in different contexts, and those different types of attraction should not be conflated with each other.

    The attraction that clothing inspires is generally social and/or physical attraction that often has to do with things like social status and/or charisma. This is even the case between men and women.

    However, the natural attraction between men and women that is hardwired into their psychology and physiology, is sexual attraction, which is entirely defined by their respective birthday suits. Healthy societies tend to regard sexual attraction as a very private matter, and so they keep it out of the public. In Islam, the hijab is one of the means by which this is done (and this applies to both men and women). “Lowering the gaze” is another.


    Many cultures find a ‘chaste woman’ more attractive than the alternative. The problem with religion is that a woman is either chaste, or soiled, and nothing is in between. The women who do not fit the religiously chaste model are looked down upon, and even some cultures consider women who are raped soiled because, for some reason it is the woman’s fault that she made the man rape her.

    – Many cultures find “chaste women” more socially attractive than the alternative, and that is because chastity is held in much higher esteem than the alternative. Every society has its own social standards and most people in society are attracted to what is high on the social standard and look down upon what is low on the social standard. It isn’t religion that defines women as either “chaste” or “soiled”, it is the cultures that evolve in society that do. Prostitution, for example, is looked down upon in almost all societies, even secular ones, because that is how their cultures evolved.

    With rape, in a lot of cases, how it is defined can often depend on the social status of the rape victim, the social status of the rapist and what is the most politically-convenient solution. This stems from corruption, which seems to arise in virtually every human society at some point.


    What I am saying is that no matter what a woman wears, she is by nature going to attract the opposite sex because that is how we are designed as humans.

    – Yes, but that attraction isn’t necessarily sexual in nature, as many other factors go into attraction.


    Religion should not make women wear badges to note their chastity. This is my problem with it.

    – If a person goes out in public in only their birthday suit, are they ‘wearing a badge to note their lewdness’ or are they just being lewd?

    Likewise if a woman goes out in public covering almost everything, is she ‘wearing a badge to note her religious chastity/modesty’ or is she just being chaste/modest for the sake of her religion?

  • Nur

    So, what you are advocating is that in order for a woman to be chaste in Islam, she should cover her body, not have a scent, or make herself smell bad, and alter her voice so that it doesn’t attract the opposite sex.
    What I am saying is that no matter what a woman wears, she is by nature going to attract the opposite sex because that is how we are designed as humans.

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