Loons come in many shapes and sizes but you can usually identify them because they utter stark raving mad things that normal mainstream people would never say and would likely find objectionable. One of those things that might make you flinch is when someone calls for the application of nuclear weapons upon a whole populace or nation.
In a previous post I exposed Joe Kaufman’s wish to launch nukes onto the Middle East, and how he wonders ” if we got nukes, why aren’t we using them?” This is not an isolated incident but in fact is part of a larger trend that links many of the Islamophobes and instigators of anti-Muslim agitation.
In the recent presidential race, former Republican Representative Tom Tancredo from Colorado was on the record stating,
If it is up to me, we are going to explain that an attack on this homeland of that nature would be followed by an attack on the holy sites in Mecca and Medina. Because that’s the only thing I can think of that might deter somebody from doing what they otherwise might do.
Does Tancredo believe that instead of emboldening terrorists and pouring fuel on the fires of conflict, a strike on the holy places of a quarter of the world’s population would be a “deterrence?” Can someone from Colorado talk to Tancredo and convince him to go on the same quest as the Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz?
Robert Spencer, the self-described “Islamic expert” wrote in his article Nuke Mecca? Nope that he believes the only reason bombing Mecca wouldn’t be a good idea is because it would become
[a] source of spirit, not of dispirit. The jihadists would have yet another injury to add to their litany of grievances.
Why can’t Spencer who easily proclaims that bombing Mecca is wrong for strategic reasons not come out and denounce the idea of bombing close to a quarter of humanity’s most holiest site for moral reasons? Maybe because Spencer wouldn’t mind seeing Mecca bombed.
He grudgingly suggests that due to the exigencies of Realpolitik we can’t do it because it will become a source of “spirit for the Jihadists” but without condemning it he leaves the possibility that we might be capable of doing it in the future. He never stops to consider that this might anger more than just the Jihadists but also every single Muslim in the world.
One must ask Spencer how he would feel if someone proposed that the only reason bombing the Vatican might not be a good idea is because it will become a source of spirit for extremist Catholics? Wouldn’t he think that Catholics of all stripes and shades would be angered and not just the extremists targeted amongst them?
In one of the most recent episodes of using the nuclear card we have Michael Savage echoing Kaufman by asking on his radio show the Savage Nation, ”if we got nukes, why aren’t we using them, what are they good for?”
CALLER: We in the Western world and the United States — I don’t see how we’re gonna win this, because we do not have the guts, we don’t have the stomach to do the things it takes to be violent enough, to fight fire with fire and give these — I mean, basically, we need to exterminate them like rats, and we’re so worried about –
SAVAGE: Yeah, we know where they’re coming from, we know they’re coming out of the — the training, at least, is probably coming out of the area where Osama bin Laden is hiding. If we can believe our intelligence agencies — of course, we have no real knowledge as to whether they’re really intelligent intelligence agencies — they’re in the tribal areas of western Pakistan. What the heck do we have nuclear weapons for? What are tactical nuclear weapons for but to wipe out an enemy? The enemy lives there — kill them and their families, and show them that the terror they inflict on the West will come home to roost and will be inflicted on them. Why must we sit here waiting for the New York subways to go up in flames?
CALLER: Yes, sir, but what are we gonna do? Instead of what you just said, what we’re gonna do is we’re gonna cut our nuclear arsenal.
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SAVAGE: The only way to defend ourselves against these fanatic Islamists is with strength. Not with hand-wringing, not with the United Nations, but with a strong and swift attack on the tribal regions of western Pakistan. Now, I will not quibble with you as to whether they should be with nuclear — that is, tactical nuclear weapons, which are limited in their scope and limited in their power — or with cluster bombs or with weapons I’m not even aware of. But there’s no question that entire region needs to be annihilated and stripped off the earth.
Such statements are the logical end of the extremist thought of the anti-Muslim crowd and one wonders considering the evidence how prevalent this apocalyptic call is amongst those who think nuking countries, regions and holy places is a swell idea.






















April 22nd, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Savage real name is Michael Weiner, which begs the question, why you tryin act savage if you a wiener. This macho wanna-be tough guy wouldn’t last a minute in the Marines.
It’s quite a strange odyssey for someone who used to be Ginsburg’s gay lover to now being some tough testostorone filled super radio man who bashes everybody like he’s got somethin on them.
dude makes me puke
April 24th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
I’m Catholic and I wouldn’t want the Vatican to be bombed. These dudes that talk about using nuclear bombs on Muslim holy sites are insane, have no values and no morals. Their belligerent babble attempts to evoke jingoism. I’m a true patriot, and I’ll slap Michael Weiner silly if I ever see him on the streets. Respect the Middle East. Respect All Holy Sites.
April 27th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Someone should inform Mr Weiner that Jerusalem is also a “holy city”. Lets see if he has the fortitude to talk about nuking that one.
November 30th, 2009 at 2:32 am
It is hard to believe that Mr. Michael Weiner(Savage)holds a Doctoral degree of any kind and talks of nuking an entire population because of another insane person like him,called Osam bin Laden,presumably hides there. UNREAL!
Self-respecting Americans with the cooperation of the self-respecting human
beings around the globe should start pushing their governments to start calling for a world totally and completely free of nuclear weapons before such weapons fall in the hands of evils like Michael Weiner(Savage)and Osama bin Laden. The United Nations and its capable technical agencies can be used as the tools to achieve that end effectively. All what the people of the world need governments to governments POLITICAL WILLS to have a world free of nukes for our children and grand children.
December 28th, 2009 at 6:25 am
Michael Savage deserves hanging — preferably using the same gallows that was used to hang Julius Streicher. IMHO anyone who openly advocates genocide in the mass media is too dangerous.
I wonder though if some of the other “nuke Mecca” types are under the delusion that if Mecca was nuked, all the world’s fundamentalist mullahs would scream “NOOOOOOOOOOOO!” as they crumbled into dust, while the rest of the world’s Muslims shook their heads, said in unison “What the hell were we thinking?” and then proceeded to open nightclubs, gay bars and strip clubs for Western tourists?
The Romans razed the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. Did Judaism die?
Garo, there’s no way the Israelis would give up their nuclear weapons even if everyone else disarmed. The Israeli-Hezbollah war in 2006 showed that Arab armed forces aren’t anything like as useless as they were in the ’60s and ’70s. Before long the right-wing Zionists will conclude that their nukes are the only things standing between the Arabs and their dream of Holocaust II.