Temple Protests Geert Wilders
The Geert Wilders speech at Temple University went ahead after some initial signals that it would be canceled. The University cited “free speech” as the reason they allowed Wilders to speak. This decision was over the objection and rejection of the student body and faculty who didn’t want a hate-mongering, David Duke like character on their campus. This was never about free speech but rather was about the principals of not giving a platform to a fascist. The speech was promoted and funded by David Horowitz who also funds JihadWatch.
Wilders was probably expecting to be greeted with warmth and applauds but he was surprised when protesters, employing their right to peacefully assemble and protest expressed their disdain for his backward, racist and anti-Democratic drivel. To give you a rough idea of how it all went down, take a gander at Wilders favorite supporters in the anti-Muslim blogosphere: the shrieking wing-nut Pamela Geller and her best friend Robert Spencer were both crying at the fact that protesters had gathered to counter demonstrate against the fascist. Pam, in her infinite wisdom summed it all up as “pearls before swine.” Spencer reported it as an attack on “free speech.”
It goes without saying that when these two individuals agree with each other on something it’s usually false or a lie. Whenever anyone opposes their hate, they label it “censorship,” an attack on free speech, submission to creeping-stealth-sharia-jihad of the highest order and dhimmitude, but when anyone, (like these Temple University protesters) chooses to then express how they feel about the anti-Muslim hate they get all Soddy and unleash tirades of how the sky is falling and evil is taking over the world. To say the least it is a simple case of double standards: Pam and Bob if you cant take the medicine then don’t try to dish it out.
I digress though, the event turned out to be one Geert Wilders would regret. He was seen for who he truly is, a xenophobic, anti-Muslim Euro supremacist peddling his hatred, and the crowd of protesters let him know it. Included in the Dutch parliamentarian’s profundities were his call for a ban on Muslim Immigration to the West, their deportation and calling the Quran and Islam “evil.”
PHILADELPHIA — Amid tight security and a large turnout of protesters, Dutch right-wing lawmaker Geert Wilders told an assembly of Temple University students that Europe and America must fight an ongoing “stealth jihad” that threatens democracy and free speech.
“Where Islam sets roots, freedom dies,” Geert Wilders told the students during his 30-minute address organized by a new student group called Temple University Purpose and funded by the California-based David Horowitz Freedom Center, a foundation that promotes conservative scholarship.
His remarks were met by a mixture of applause and boos, and occasionally gasps — particularly when he stated that “our Western culture is far better than the Islamic culture and we should defend it.”
He decried as a “disgrace” a resolution co-sponsored by the U.S. and Egypt, and backed by the U.N. Human Rights Council earlier this month, deploring attacks on religions while insisting that freedom of expression remains a basic right. Wilders also criticized President Barack Obama for his efforts to extend a hand to the Islamic world, saying that such appeasement marks “the beginning of the end.”
If the spread of Islam continues unabated in the Western world, “you might at the end of the day lose your Constitution
,” he told the assembly. “Wake up, defend your freedom.”
He also touched on common themes in his speeches, including calling for an end to Muslim immigration
A question-and-answer session was cut short after the tone of the event began to turn nasty, when some in the crowd of several hundred students began shouting jeers. Wilders’ security detail quickly ushered him from the room…
It would be nice if this article also reported on his call to ban the Quran, tax the hijab and his preference for a white dominated Netherlands. It may be that Wilders wanted to keep a lower profile and not repeat some of his more banal belief’s because he knew the reaction it would invoke in the media. One has to applaud the Temple University students for gathering together and freely expressing their revulsion and rejection at a fear mongering fascist such as Geert Wilders.
This video gives a good feel of the event and the protesters it inspired:
October 21st, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Nice. Looks like the new generation knows what is up with these fanatical fascist loons. It doesn’t surprise me that most in the extreme right wing are aging fast and no amount of botox will save them.
October 21st, 2009 at 6:14 pm
I’m proud of the Temple student body. Wilders is a coward. He was afraid of stating his more outrageous claims and had to leave during the Q&A. This is what happens when you face up to a bully — the bully backs down. To Muslim readers, don’t let these clowns intimidate you. Use your 1st amendment rights and face up to them.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:52 pm
I must live in a world where everyone knows what is up with these fascist.
Who even goes to listen to Wilders?
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:37 am
Oooooh, look who got a mention over at Atlas Shrieks here:
“Muslim propaganda ……check out the source, loon watch, the new smear site. Someone big is financing Loon Watch ……….. it is very Soros. There is a a lot of time, money and resources behind it.”
Textbook Pammycakes. First calling you all a “smear site” then questioning who’s paying your site off. It is a very nice site, and far better designed than my Blogger one, but does that really take Soros (or even imply Soros, seeing as you just mock idiot Islamophobes)? Atlas Juggs is a jam-packed bells and whistles site too, and follow that money–to alimony payments.
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:30 am
Thanks “Lex AOC” for the tip. I love how you describe pamela’s site: Atlas Shrieks. Do you mind if we use that?
Wow the evil monster George Soros is behind this small little site, you can go far knowing a little html, as far as being a scion of the dark emperor George Soros. LOL.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Garibaldi–well, that one isn’t original to me. I think it perhaps came from Sadly, No. I’m not sure of the origin of “Atlas Juggs” either, to be honest, other than that it’s so bloody obvious. What a waste of time I spent with that racist hag, but otoh, I know all. MUHAHAHAHA!! But sure, I’d love a hat tip if you don’t mind. I got so sick I was in the hospital and my co-bloggers are busy students. I’m trying to work on the blog again, but I’m running on half steam. Maybe I’ve been poisoned by George Soros, ya think? Pammy’s criminal ex husband (please tell me you didn’t miss that one–Google Michael Oshry, Long Island, Auto World) maybe because he still wants da Juggs?
This site is great though, it is pretty slick. It does take knowing a bit of HTML for these results. We still have all of the same targets though, and it’s great having this site up! I was plugging along on the “Soap Opera” subject for so long alone (I started on my other blog before setting up govvs and inviting Sphinx on over) that it seemed like I’d be covering this idiotic madness forever, other than the occasional piece at Sadly, Chasing Evil, and a few others that I never expected this! One of my favorite days of opening the computer, seeing this place. I’m just waiting for another “Fjordman” 5th Grade Essay, those really crack me up.
Check out the post that led to my collaboration with MT Akbar though, I hadn’t seen this video and I just about died watching it. It’s up at his place here
if you haven’t already seen her up against The Young Turks. Beautiful.
Feel free to use any of my bad Photoshops though, those need to get around. I’m particularly proud of “Pamela Geller is a Cheetah Girl”. That came out much better than Robert Spencer as Bigfoot (not so good). PamZilla isn’t bad either, not for someone who really can’t photoshop. Daniel Pipes as Evil Spock soon to come. And definitely ‘friend’ Pammycakes on Facebook. OK, I haven’t, but then she knows who I am.
Ahhhh, it’s good to be back. Come on Bodissey, say something genocidal….do it….do it!!!
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
That’s ridiculous what Geller says about this site. What do you think makes her believe someone “big” is behind loonwatch?
No offense, but it doesn’t seem that way to me. Tell me if I’m wrong, Garibaldi.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Lex AOC-What do you mean it is sick? The people who are outed here are kind of sick-minded.
oh, I like the link to that site with the video. They should link to the site on here or something.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
sorry, I must be getting old with my eyesight, I see now you say slick.
I think I understand. Thanks
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Wilders has many valid points if one looks at the facts and leaves out the irrational emotion. Why do we have to tolerate intolerant 7th century barbarians?
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:41 am
Geert Wilder is paid by Israeli far right movement to spread propoganda.
Does anyone know exactly he was doing in Israel, and who he met? If you dig deep enough, i’m sure you’ll find the Kahanists funding him, just like they are Brigette Gabriel, and Walid Shoebet, and the Clarion Fund
Wilders is known to have bragged about his Mossad contacts, Dutch secret service were keeping an eye on him for that reaason.
his wikipedia entry states that he has been to Israel 42 times, and he has bragged about having Mossad contacts.
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Wilders and Israel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders
Wilders lived in Israel for two years during his youth and has visited the country 40 times the last 25 years.[39]
Wilders stated about Israel: “I have visited many interesting countries in the Middle East (Tunisia, Turkey, Cyprus, Iran) but nowhere did I have the special feeling of brotherhood that I always get when I land on Ben Gurion International Airport.[15] Dutch public TV channel Nederland 2’s daily news programme Netwerk reported, that numerous American supporters of Israel financially supported Wilders’ Party for Freedom (PVV) and openly approved of his message towards Islam and Islamic terrorism.[40] Wilders told an audience during the report, that “We [in the West] are all Israel”.[40] He has also said “Israel is the West’s first line of defense” against what he perceives to be a threat posed by Islam.[41]
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:38 am
I’m confused as usual. Did these students view FITNA and think that the quotes came from Gerrt ? They came striaght out of the Koran. With a small amount of research you can see that Islam is not a Religion, but a political idealology based on hate for all others that are not believers in there way. You can’t even fly into Saudi with a bible. These non thinking Liberal students have the same thought process of those who followed Hitler.
Pretty scary if you ask me.
October 23rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm
“Islam is not a Religion, but a political idealology based on hate for all others that are not believers in there way.”
You’re an idiot.
October 24th, 2009 at 4:17 am
I second that James, well said.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:51 am
And if you read all of the quaran, you’d know that Wilders cherrypicked. It’s a religion, deal with it. Moron.
October 24th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
It’s very easy to criticize and dismiss Geert. But, in reality, he says what many people think deep down inside. They are just afraid to admit it.
Islam, as an ideology, is, in fact, intolerant, supermicist, and violent. Unfortunately, this is the reality of the world we live in. Sharia (Islamic law) is barbaric, inhumane, primitive, and backwards. Instead of helping Islam evolve, you shut down and dismiss any criticism of it. You’re as much of the problem as the terrorist who commit violent acts in the name of Islam.
October 24th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
I think it is healthy for people to engage in free speech on both sides. It is important for democracy. The students should protest and Wilders should speak.
Geert Wilders says things that are inflammation and people should engage him in non-violent discussion and debate.
At the same time these protesters against Wilders in the UK (not Temple University) should also be engaged non-violently because the irony is by these UK Muslims saying Islam will dominate and conquer the world, and saying the punishment for insulting the prophet is death, they end up proving Wilders’ point. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjHtR21XHi8&feature=related
Wilders: Islam is violent
UK Muslim protesters: Kill him for insulting the prophet
If Islam is peaceful then both Wilders and the Uk Muslim protesters are loons.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:02 am
TYO, what must be made clear is that the UK Muslim protesters who say such inflammatory things are just a small subset of a much larger population . Therefore, even if they say these violent things, it does NOT prove Wilder’s point, as you said. Wilder’s point is that Muslims in generality–at least the vast majority of them–are violent. At most what Wilders can prove is that *some* Muslims are violent, a fact that not even most Muslims would negate.
Having said all that, I agree with you that Muslims should react calmly and peacefully to such things. In fact, many Muslim preachers have advised their congregations exactly that. Indeed, it is interesting to note that even the Quran itself says:
“And the servants of God…are those who walk on the earth in humility, and when the ignorant address them, they say ‘Peace!’” (Quran, 25:63)
“And when they hear (such) vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: ‘to us our deeds and to you yours; peace be to you.’” (Quran, 28:55)
So Muslims should react to these Islamophobes with that timeless creed: “peace be to you!”
Sincerely,
Danios.
October 25th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
I can believe that those protesters are a subset. Geert Wilders is also a subset. My point was the way they are behaving in their protest against Wilders is the way Wilders expects them to behave. They are not helping their case by that (*)
I don’t agree with the inflammatory things Wilders says, but I also don’t agree with what those UK protesters were saying either. I think in order to make the world a better place, people need to engage both the Wilders of the world as well as those UK protesters types. I don’t want to discriminate against a religion, but I also don’t want one religion to rule the world either, be it Christianity or Islam or something else.
I am for religious diversity, the separation of church and state, separation of religion and the law, one civil law applicable to everyone equally and fairly, freedom of speech, and equality for women, all races of man, people of all sexual orientation, all religions and atheism. Both Wilders and those UK protesters seem to violate those values, therefore both loons need to be engaged in non-violent dialogue in order to get them to be more aligned to those values of fairness and equality.
I googled Wilders to read one of his speeches to see what he says. He says he makes a distinction between the religion and people:
“Before I want to speak about Islam, I first would like to say this: I have nothing against Muslims. There are many moderate Muslims. The majority of Muslims in our Western countries are law abiding people, who want to live a peaceful life. I know that. Therefore, I make a clear distinction between the people and the ideology, between Muslims and Islam…As I said, there are many moderate Muslims. But there is no such thing as a moderate Islam.” http://www.geertwilders.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1604&Itemid=1
There are plenty of other inflammatory things that he says, but here he is making a distinction between the religion and the followers.
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Geert Wilders: “I would not qualify myself as a free man. 5 years ago I lost my personal freedom. Since then I am under 24-hour police protection….It is my opinion that Islam is more an ideology than a religion. To be precise, Islam is a political, totalitarian ideology, with worldwide aspirations, just like communism and fascism, because like those ideologies Islam does not intend to assimilate in our societies but wants to dominate and submit us all.” http://www.geertwilders.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1604&Itemid=1
UK protesters: Mohammed says anyone who insults any of the prophets, kill him. Islam will dominate. Islam will conquer the world.
October 25th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Al H: “Islam, as an ideology, is, in fact, intolerant, supermicist, and violent. Unfortunately, this is the reality of the world we live in. Sharia (Islamic law) is barbaric, inhumane, primitive, and backwards.”
Do you think that by using many adjectives you sound intelligent? Your post was moronic.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:24 am
I wonder if Temple will allow a holocaust denier to speak in the name of free speech.It appears that the concept of free speech is selective and is just an excuse to incite hatred against Muslims
October 27th, 2009 at 5:30 am
Columbia University allowed an infamous Holocaust denier to speak on their campus in the name of free speech - Iranian President Ahmadinejad. People protested that too. He should speak, they should protest. Free speech is healthy for democracy.
October 27th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
the quran’s certainly more advanced then the old testament. Plus The Quran is quite compatible.
October 28th, 2009 at 12:09 am
I actually agree with TYO, especially: “He should speak, they should protest.”
-Danios.
October 28th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Nice, go protesters!