CNN recently published an article entitled Study: Threat of Muslim-American terrorism in U.S. exaggerated; according to a study released by Duke University and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, “the terrorist threat posed by radicalized Muslim-Americans has been exaggerated.”
Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.”
But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).
Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database
Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database
According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.
Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist!
The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews). Let them dare say it…they couldn’t; it would be political and social suicide to say such a thing. Most Americans would shut down such talk as bigoted; yet, similar statements continue to be said of Islam, without any repercussions.
The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? (For the record: I don’t believe in such profiling, because I am–unlike the right wing nutters–a believer in American ideals.)
The moral of the story is that Americans ought to calm down when it comes to Islamic terrorism. Right wingers always live in mortal fear–or rather, they try to make you feel that way. In fact, Pamela Geller (the queen of internet Islamophobia) literally said her mission was to “scare the bejeezus outta ya.” Don’t be fooled, and don’t be a wuss. You don’t live in constant fear of radicalized Latinos (unless you’re Lou Dobbs), even though they commit seven times more acts of terrorism than Muslims in America. Why then are you wetting yourself over Islamic radicals? In the words of Cenk Uygur: you’re at a ten when you need to be at a four. Nobody is saying that Islamic terrorism is not a matter of concern, but it’s grossly exaggerated.
Related Posts:
Europol report: All terrorists are Muslims…Except the 99.6% that aren’t
RAND report: Threat of homegrown jihadism exaggerated, Zero U.S. civilians killed since 9/11
Update:
A reader by the name of Dima added:
The FBI Terrorism Report shows…[that] the highest number of terrorist incidents in the U.S. by region (90) took place in Puerto Rico.
Second Update:
An Islamophobe commented on this article, saying that the statistics are flawed because the FBI included small acts such as “stealing rats from a lab” as an act of terrorism. Of course, this is patently false. Here is a breakdown of the terrorist attacks by type (the pie chart is from the FBI’s official website and can be accessed here):
Terrorism by Event, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database
January 20th, 2010 at 1:07 am
People will be surprised to learn about this, Islamophobes will contest it with angry red faces, while some will accuse you stupidly of anti-Semitism. Thanks again, this will be controversial for some even though it need not be.
January 20th, 2010 at 3:23 am
Great article.
January 20th, 2010 at 4:23 am
Oh wow that’s like a punch in the face honestly… Can some one explain political correctness for me? I tried looking it up and I never understood it, and I’ve noticed that Spencers book is calle the politically incorrect guide to so and so. At first I thot it was sarcasm nut then I realized political incorrectness is good? Can someone explain?
January 20th, 2010 at 6:23 am
Thanks for your comment, Never Again for All. What should be noted is that my sarcastic comment in the top picture’s caption is directed towards the JDL, not Jews in general. The JDL represents Judaism no more than Al-Qaeda represents Islam.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:32 am
Well said Danios . It cheers me up to think of Plastic Pouting Pam and her Gnomish buddy reading this site and grinding their teeth in frustration because the truth hurts when all you do is make up spin and stuff and twist numbers.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:11 am
Greetings from Finland. I have been reading Loonwatch for a while but haven’t commented before. I admire the job you are doing, keep up with it! Sadly we have our own bunch of islamofobits and racists here and we have our own “Watch” keeping an eye on them.
I have a question to Danios: have you written an article of the meaning of “Taqiyya” and “Kitman” or are going to write one?
January 20th, 2010 at 7:57 am
Wow, this is going to be soooo useful!! Finally, we’ve got something to point to when the Islamophobes come barking at the door. Awesome article as always!
And Danios, right now the last line reads “So calm the down, and continue living your life.”
January 20th, 2010 at 8:22 am
If anyone is interest further,probably Danios, there’s an excellent book by Robert Pape it’s called The Strategic Logic Of Suicide Terrorism. Very riveting work.
January 20th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Loonwatch should print this story: U.S. Military Weapons [used in Afghanistan and Iraq] Inscribed With Secret ‘Jesus’ Bible Codes
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-military-weapons-inscribed-secret-jesus-bible-codes/story?id=9575794
Related stories:
Soldiers in Afghanistan given bibles [in Pashtun and Dari languages], told to “Hunt people for Jesus” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/04/soldiers-in-afghanistan-g_n_195674.html
“Iraq will become the center for spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ to Iran, Libya, throughout the Middle East.” – Kyle Fisk, executive administrator of National Association of Evangelicals, to the LA Times. Within 8 months of the invasion, 9 evangelical churches open in Baghdad, supported with $100,000 per church. Nine hundred thousand bibles in Arabic sent to Iraq http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-hayden/christian-extremists-in-i_b_3039.html . See also “Evangelicals building a base in Iraq” http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/22/AR2005062202335.html
January 20th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Danios:How many innocent people have been killed by Latinos and Jewish terrorist and the number of people killed by the Muslim terrorist?Can you give some figures?Jihad is the other name for terrorism.This word should be taken out of the dictionary of Islam but it is impossible.I know you do not have the guts to read the truthful apposing views and publish them in loon- watch because you do not have legs of truthfulness to stand on.Only propaganda!!!
January 20th, 2010 at 10:54 am
“have you written an article of the meaning of “Taqiyya” and “Kitman” or are going to write one?”
Taqiyya and Kitman are terms the Islamophobes like to throw around in order to draw on nuanced Islamic concepts to legitimise their propaganda call to dismiss all opposing voices. So if a Muslim makes a claim, true or false, it cannot be trusted as he or she may be engaging in taqiyya. It’s an effective tool in winning popular support for their agenda, as it draws a strict boundary between what is valid discourse (that of the Islamophobes) and what is not (the taqiyya-driven Muslims, and their sponsored leftist allies).
Kitman is a term rarely found in Sunni Islamic texts on jurispudence. However, taqiyya does appear, in particular in the context of interpreting verses 3:28 and 16:105. The “occasion of revelation” for 16:105 was the torture of an early convert to Islam, Ammar b Yasir, who was spared torture when he praised the pagan Arab gods; the Prophet Muhammad affirmed his faith and this verse allowed such a concession. 3:28 uses the word “tuqah” a congate of “taqiyya”. Some early jurists (like Muadh b Jabal and Mujahid) were opposed to the concept altogether as they felt it implied “lying” (kidhb) and “hypocrisy” (nifaq). Most, however, disagreed that it implied these objectionable consequences, and allowed it as a dispensation (rukhsa) when one is compelled. “Most of the Ahl al-Sunna believe taqiyya…is permissible only in (cases of) necessity…al-Qurtubi said ‘taqiyya is not permitted unless one fears death, or the loss of a limb or serious bodily harm’” (al-Mawsuat al-Fiqhiyya: http://feqh.al-islam.com/Display.asp?Mode=0&MaksamID=840&DocID=100&ParagraphID=5520 )
Furthermore, since this is a dispensation (rukhsa) “from God, and it is not an obligation, not performing taqiyya is more virtuous” (al-Jassas mentioing the Hanafi view: http://feqh.al-islam.com/Display.asp?Mode=0&MaksamID=1&DocID=7&ParagraphID=434 ). This is supported by a hadith from the Musannaf of Ibn Abi Shayba where two men were brought before a rebel leader, the “false prophet” Musaylama; Musaylama asked if the first believed he was a prophet and he replied in the affirmative and when he asked the second he replied “I am deaf” thrice and was subsequently killed; when the news reached the Prophet, he said “the one that was killed has passed away with integrity (sidq) and firm conviction (yaqin), and he held on to his merits, so glad tidings to him; and as regards to the second, he is saved from any consequence (of lying) due to a dispensation from God” (cited here: http://feqh.al-islam.com/Display.asp?Mode=0&MaksamID=840&DocID=100&ParagraphID=5520 )
When Islamophobes write about taqiyya, they’ll normally mention it in isolation, without the context given in Sunni writings, in order to give it a global implication and create a general distrust of all Muslims. Shiite views of taqiyya and kitman may be slightly different to Sunni views. There are a few other issues when it comes to the topic of “lying” (kidhb) in Islamic jurispudence (which is always impermissible, unless serious physical damage is feared; however portraying the truth in an agreeable and perhaps even a selective manner that does not involve lying is commended when it is used to “reconcile” between people and enjoin people to be charitable) – however, this is not related to “taqiyya” which has a very specific purpose.
January 20th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Beautiful man. Send this to every islamaphobic site. Spread the word man. spread the word
January 20th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Hey is it just me or is the home page not showing up?
January 20th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Good job and good grief. All of the past 8 years of fear, anxiety, frustration, rage, a broken economy and two wars that are still going on for this? This deserves an attaboy, and a mention at Miscellany101.
January 20th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Thank you Muzzammil for your answer. I have a further question: has Taqiya and Kitman been used by the extreme islamist preachers to justify terrorism or lying? To me this is important, because I am involved in a heated discussion on certain forums in my homeland.
I is schokking how islamofobes keep telling the same stories over and over again on every net page. It is like the game, where a mole jumps from the hole and you hit it with a hammer. The same mole will just jump again from another hole. Frustrating.
January 20th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Profiling has failed us; we don’t need profiling to identify Individuals like the Christmas-Day Bomber or the Fort Hood Shooter! There is a better solution!
Virtually all media outlets are discussing whether we should be profiling all Arab Muslims; I will in the one-page explain why we don’t need profiling. Over 15 years ago, we at the Center for Aggression Management developed an easily-applied, measurable and culturally-neutral body language and behavior indicators exhibited by people who intend to perpetrate a terrorist act. This unique methodology utilizes proven research from the fields of psychology, medicine and law enforcement which, when joined together, identify clear, easily-used physiologically-based characteristics of individuals who are about to engage in terrorist activities in time to prevent their Moment of Commitment.
The Problem
Since the foiled terrorist attack by Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the Nigerian national on Northwest Flight 253 to Detroit, the President has repeatedly stated that there has been a systemic failure as he reiterates his commitment to fill this gap in our security. This incident, like the Fort Hood shooting, exemplifies why our government must apply every valid preventative approach to identify a potential terrorist.
The myriad methods to identify a terrorist, whether “no-fly list,” “explosive and weapons detection,” mental illness based approaches, “profiling” or “deception detection” – all continue to fail us. Furthermore, the development of deception detection training at Boston Logan Airport demonstrated that the Israeli methods of interrogation will not work in the United States.
All media outlets are discussing the need for profiling of Muslim Arabs, but profiling does not work for the following three reasons:
1. In practice, ethnic profiling tells us that within a certain group of people there is a higher probability for a terrorist; it does not tell us who the next terrorist is!
2. Ethnic profiling is contrary to the value our society places on diversity and freedom from discrimination based on racial, ethnic, religious, age and/or gender based criteria. If we use profiling it will diminish our position among the majority of affected citizens who support us as a beacon of freedom and liberty.
3. By narrowing our field of vision, profiling can lead to the consequence of letting terrorists go undetected, because the terrorist may not be part of any known “profile worthy” group – e.g., the Oklahoma City bomber, Timothy McVeigh
The Solution
Our unique methodology for screening passengers can easily discern (independently of race, ethnicity, religious affiliation, age, and gender) the defining characteristics of human beings who are about to engage in terrorist acts.
The question is when will our government use true “hostile intent” through the “continuum of aggressive behavior” to identify potential terrorists? Only when observers focus specifically on “aggressive behavior” do the objective and culturally neutral signs of “aggression” clearly stand out, providing the opportunity to prevent these violent encounters. This method will not only make all citizens safer, but will also pass the inevitable test of legal defensibility given probable action by the ACLU.
As our Government analyzes what went wrong regarding Abdulmatallab’s entrance into the United States, you can be assured that Al Qaeda is also analyzing how their plans went wrong. Who do you think will figure it out first . . . ?
Visit our blog at http://blog.AggressionManagement.com where we discuss the shooting at Fort Hood and the attempted terrorist act on Flight 253.
January 20th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Great! It would be nice to also see a worldwide analysis.
January 20th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Never mind the statistics, girls, try reading (I know it’s hard, but keep going and you’ll gradually get better) this story, one among millions I know but just the latest to emerge, there’ll be plenty more. Once you’ve read it I want one of you to tell me all the usual old shit about the religion of peace, no compulsion in religion, love and peace, yada yada yada.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/islam/my-brothers-stabbed-me-ten-times
The next thing I want you to do is challenge Ali Sina to a debate.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Danios,
Thank you for this interesting and highly relevant post and FBI report and for your other work as well. I recently discovered this site and particularly enjoyed your excellent and well-researched rebuttals to Robert Spencer.
The FBI Terrorism Report shows:
318 incidents 1980-2005 which averages out to one a month
The highest number of terrorist incidents in the U.S. by region (90) took place in Puerto Rico
The total number of deaths due to terrorism incidents in the U.S. is 3,178 which means that aside from 9/11 and the OKC bombing the total number of terrorism deaths from 1980-2005 is 33.
In 12 of the 26 years covered by the report there were no deaths or injuries from terrorist attacks in the U.S.
I have numerous problems with the report including the at times highly political nature of what is classified as terrorism. (In a number of cases, it’s at best really a stretch if not downright ludicrous i.e. freeing mink from a mink farm, fundraising or financially supporting Hamas or Hezbollah which are also political parties that provide social services, getting ready to go abroad to fight with the Taliban against U.S. forces in Afghanistan, etc.) Nevertheless, the report shows that terrorist attacks overall and especially Islamic extremist terrorist attacks, which are what the media and the politicians hype, are nothing like the threat they’ve been built up to be.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Article updated.
Sorry that I currently don’t have time to reply to everyone…
But I do wish to say that Dolly proves my point further: the Islamophobic mentality is “Look at this anecdotal example I have, and *this* is what all Muslims are.” Typical. Thank you for proving my point.
Sincerely,
Danios.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
At first I thought the graph was an FBI graph. However it seems from the link the FBI only listed the acts and things like who did it. It is interesting to see who is listed. I take it you took the data and created a graph. You must have listed which of those groups would go into each category. It would be helpful to see which group you included in each category.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
No, the pie chart is not from the FBI. However, I encourage everyone to look at the table provided on the FBI website to confirm what I have compiled. I went through it three times to make sure I was correct.
I took the FBI table and highlighted each entry that went to each group. So what I can do is publish that color coded table. I chose not to do it above because it would cramp up the page. I’ll post the table as a separate page so whoever wants to see it can click on it.
Give me a day or two to get it done, since I am busy as I mentioned in the comment above.
Sincerely,
Danios.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
@ dolly:
I have read refutations of Ali sina everywhere! And yes the statistics DO matter because a lot of people think that all terrorists are Muslim. Even geert wilders said this. And maybe YOU ought to do is consider the criticism of these islamiphobes and read it yourself cause it can be informative, instead of discrediting it as BS.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
What a nice pro-pislamic site. I wonder how much arselifters are contributing to it to help disseminate disinformation about pislam?
January 20th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Dear Loonwatch lovers,
There are LIES, damn LIES and statistics.
What you ignore is that:
1) there have been 14,705 terrorist acts from muslims since 9/11
2) in 2009 alone, there have been 2117 Jihaddi acts in 38 countries
Do you think the USA will be different?
The USA is Dar Al Harb and so is fair game for Muslims.
Only Islam demands that its followers are ruthless to the unbelievers.
Mohammed said “terror brings victory” and “strike at their necks”.
Enough said!
January 21st, 2010 at 1:57 am
Muslims launch bus billboards for peace
One of Britain’s oldest established Muslim communities has launched a national doorstep and publicity campaign on London’s buses featuring Islamic principles of peace, which is aimed at countering extremism.
http://ekklesia.co.uk/node/11041
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sAZrW8zQcec/S1TvwBMDLBI/AAAAAAAAAMw/myTFtDZjpWU/s320/londonbus.jpg
January 21st, 2010 at 2:10 am
@Danios:Your argument that 94% Muslims are not extremist is very useful in defence of Muslims living in America.There are over 3 million Muslims living in America.Can you work out as to the number of Muslim extremist in America then? It must be frightening to have so many exteremist living in America,specially living under the umbrella of a Muslim president!!
January 21st, 2010 at 7:06 am
It’d be interesting if someone did the research on how many temples in the US have JDL tzedaka boxes used for supporting that “never again…to us” ideology. (The answer would be “a lot.”) But, you know, our mosques are the one supporting terror…Because we totally teach that “our land was stolen 2000 years ago by savages who don’t deserve the right to live, much less on our land.” Oh wait.
(BTW, apparently the key to getting Robert Spencer to yell at you is to bring up those sorts of things. Or at least it was the key in Madison, WI…)
January 21st, 2010 at 8:11 am
Danios,you are a genius exposing the Islam-o-phobes. These people shoild learn more.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:08 am
OK I have some time now to reply to comments. Here goes…
First, thank you to everyone who complimented the article. I tend to preferentially reply to those who post negative comments (simply because of my urge to shut them down), but please understand that I value your positive feedback a lot. It’s very important for me to know that people want more articles in a similar vein.
Now to reply individually to certain comments…
Huckleberry:
“I have a question to Danios: have you written an article of the meaning of “Taqiyya” and “Kitman” or are going to write one?”
No, I have not yet written an article on this topic, but I plan on doing it in the near future, so stay tuned!
I don’t have time to review Muzammil’s writing on Taqiyya and Kitman, but usually he writes good stuff.
“I have a further question: has Taqiya and Kitman been used by the extreme islamist preachers to justify terrorism or lying?”
No. Al-Qaeda terrorists and their ilk are Sunnis, not Shias. They never invoke Taqiya, and in fact oppose its usage, berrating Shias for their belief in it…although the Shia masses have an understanding that differs from what Islamophobes (and some Sunnis) claim. As for kitman, nobody has even heard of this, and it’s just something that is found in some obscure isolated medieval texts…and which Islamophobes found and just play up. It’s absurd because the average Muslim has never heard of taqiyya or kitman, but especially not kitman.
iSherif:
“And Danios, right now the last line reads ‘So calm the down, and continue living your life.’”
Sorry, I had put an expletive there and the editor deleted it. I fixed it though after I read your comment, so thanks for the heads up.
Sincerely,
Danios.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:21 am
Yusuf:
“Great! It would be nice to also see a worldwide analysis.”
You correctly predicted what my follow up article would be.
Dolly:
“The next thing I want you to do is challenge Ali Sina to a debate.”
Your wish is my command. I challenge Ali Sina to a debate. He, like Robert Spencer, would quickly realize the world of hurt he is in for should he choose to debate me.
Dima:
Thanks for your excellent comment. I added it to my article in the update. Refresh your page.
Geoff:
“there have been 14,705 terrorist acts from muslims since 9/11″
The number is completely spurious. I’ve seen you Islamophobes use that number a lot. Where did you get it from? I have the actual number available to me from a very credible source (which I plan to publish in a follow up article coming to a LoonWatch near you), and it’s nowhere near that ludicrous number you gave. So my question is: where the heck are you Islamophobes generating that number from? Source?
“2) in 2009 alone, there have been 2117 Jihaddi acts in 38 countries”
I don’t know what you mean by “Jihaddi acts.” Are you including attacks against military targets, such as the occupying forces in Afghanistan and Iraq? If so, then there are thousands upon thousands of military strikes by Western nations. In that case, 2117 (probably another spurious number though) is very low.
If you mean act of terrorism, then that number is again completely spurious, as I shall reveal in my follow up article. Stay tuned. Danios is not to be messed with. That is a lesson the Islamophobes are learning quite quickly. Spencer has learned it, and will continue to learn it. So will others.
Milad:
“Your argument that 94% Muslims are not extremist”
You have profound reading comprehension problems. Nowhere did I say that.
“specially living under the umbrella of a Muslim president”
Stop doing crack.
Sincerely,
Danios.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:43 am
Do these Islamophobes foam at the mouth while writing their garbage?
January 21st, 2010 at 11:56 am
I agree with danios. I’ve seen the 14,000 number everywhere without proof or sources. I trust the FBI much more then a random website that attacks Islam.
January 21st, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Interesting, but you are misusing statistics. Look I can do it too!
Look at the pie chart of the deaths caused by terrorist attacks vs. the group you might get a clearer picture of why Al-Qa’ida gets so much press:
Al-Qu’ida: 2972 (93.6%)
Timothy McVeigh: 168 (5.2%)
Other: 38 (1.2%)
So 94% of all terrorist related deaths in the US are caused by Islamic extremists.
Same data, opposite result.
I will say that giving equal weight to flying a plane full of people into a building by Al-Qu’ida terrorists and the Animal Liberation Front stealing a bunch of lab rats is disingenuous. Yet both are listed as terrorist acts in that table.
For perspective there were 30,896 firearms related deaths in the US in 2006 alone.
January 21st, 2010 at 3:39 pm
“The number is completely spurious. I’ve seen you Islamophobes use that number a lot. Where did you get it from?”
They get it from thereligionofpeace.com, a vicious anti-muslim hate site. It has recommended commentary which states things like “No decent human being could ever remain muslim”, “muslim civilians are a myth, they are all dangerous” and “A ‘moderate’ muslim could turn suicide bomber overnight”. Hardly an objective source.
The number has been extremely inflated by including resistance operations against occupying soldiers, but also political violence, tribal violence, secretarian violence and domestic violence. And I don’t think they even mention sources, so I wouldn’t be surprised if many of the ones mentioned are complete fabrications.
January 21st, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Danios,
Thank you very much. I made an error though and should clarify. According to the report there were actually 11 years from 1980-2005 in which there were no killings *and* no injuries from terrorist attacks in the U.S. There are however 12 years in which there were no injuries and 12 years in which there no killings. In 1997, no one was killed but there were 13 wounded and in 2002 there were no injuries but there were 2 deaths.
January 21st, 2010 at 6:09 pm
“Interesting, but you are misusing statistics. Look I can do it too!”
Speak for yourself. I did not misuse statistics at all. But it is amusing how you didn’t comment on the completely spurious number used by Geoff, which has been repeatedly used by Islamophobes.
“Look at the pie chart of the deaths caused by terrorist attacks vs. the group you might get a clearer picture of why Al-Qa’ida gets so much press:
Al-Qu’ida: 2972 (93.6%)
Timothy McVeigh: 168 (5.2%)
Other: 38 (1.2%)”
9/11 is a complete outlier. You know it, and I know it. So is the Timonthy McVeigh attack. If you eliminate those two, you will come to a much more reasonable result. Other than those two events, less than 40 Americans have died from terrorism in the period between 1980 and 2005. Yes, 9/11 was bad. But it was an exceptional event.
So yes, you can make a pie chart like the above, but the reality is that the skewed results are just a result of one single event. When that is made clear, your argument falls apart. In fact, my follow up article will be an analysis of the number of Americans killed from terrorists.
Remember: *my* argument is simply that not all terrorists are Muslims. I was refuting the argument that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims”, an argument that falls apart when you look at the facts. What percentage of terrorist attacks are from what group is secondary…The point is that Muslims do NOT make up “nearly all terrorists” as you Islamophobes claim.
“I will say that giving equal weight to flying a plane full of people into a building by Al-Qu’ida terrorists and the Animal Liberation Front stealing a bunch of lab rats is disingenuous. Yet both are listed as terrorist acts in that table.”
And you’re a damned liar. Nowhere is “stealing a bunch of lab rats” on the table. I encourage anyone to just glance at the table and see that 95% of everything listed is bombings, shootings, arsons, etc.
Sincerely,
Danios.
January 21st, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Danios,
Thank you very much. I made an error though and should clarify. It’s actually 11 years in which there were no deaths *and* no injuries from terrorist attacks in the U.S. There are however 12 years in which there were no deaths listed from terrorist attacks and 12 years in which there were no injuries listed from terrorist attacks. In 1997 there were 13 wonded but no deaths and in 2002 there were 2 killed but no wounded.
January 21st, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Hey I am I, remember I said “don’t mess with Danios.” I meant it. Here is a breakdown from the FBI of the various types of terrorism that they included in their table:
http://www.fbi.gov/publications/terror/pie.jpg
Don’t mess with Danios. Get it through your thick skulls. You will lose.
Sincerely,
Danios.
January 21st, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Looking forward to your next piece on this Danios.
@Mahmoud, I was going to mention that! Yes, they get all their numbers from the anti-Muslim hate site “religion of peace” whose definition of terrorism is “any violence committed by a Muslim anywhere, at anytime, and for whatever reason“. The numbers there are completely BOGUS. Stick to FBI reports.
January 21st, 2010 at 6:40 pm
“9/11 is a complete outlier. You know it, and I know it. So is the Timonthy McVeigh attack.”
Also, 9/11 was not a terrorist attack carried out by Americans. The 19 hijackers were part of an organised vigilante operation from outside America albeit without any state-backing. In my opinion, 9/11 belongs to a different category altogether and is more akin to Pearl Harbour 1941 in which 2400 were killed than it is to McVeigh’s attack which was by a US citizen and a veteran at that. If purely American terrorism (unlawful killings/attacks by Americans that has a specific political goal – not random murders) on American soil is considered, then the killing by Islamist terrorists over the last three decades would be close to 5% – so, even in this respect, the 94% statistic is accurate or nearly accurate.
January 21st, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Dima:
I’m going to include what you said in my follow up article, as it is more relevant to that topic instead of this one. Thank you very much for your excellent points. It’s worthy of another article entirely, not just a small update.
Sincerely,
Danios.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:17 pm
You missed my point, I guess you were too busy labelling me.
I didn’t comment on Geoff’s number because there isn’t any data, I think that it is made up out of whole cloth.
My point was that I used the same set of data to produce the opposite results and I claim my result is as flawed as yours. I believe I stated up front that I planned to misuse the data. I am not going to argue that my analysis was correct.
9/11 is not an outlier, it only looks that way because there are only four significant successful terrorist attacks on US soil in that 25 year span (the 1993 NY car bomb, Timothy McVeigh, the 1995 Atlanta pipe bomb, and 9/11). A lot of the rest of those are spurious. There is a world of difference between parking a truck of explosives next to a full office building and placing “two one-gallon jugs filled with kerosene near a McDonald’s restaurant in Chico, California, and vandalized the restaurant with graffiti. The graffiti included statements such as “Animal Liberation Front,” “Meat is Murder,” and “Species Equality.”” Seriously, that’s terrorism? That’s actually a little pathetic.
Secondly 29 year old data has little relevance to todays geopolitical situation. Terrorists normally spring from a group that is persecuted and has little hope for bettering their situation or is too weak to fight conventionally. Currently there are hot spots in Central America, the Middle East, Afghanistan, Georgia, Africa, Spain and a handful of others. Of those only in the Middle East, Afghanistan and Central America is the US a primary target. So I think you do have to worry about terrorists from those locations along with you local ones. (Yes I am not an American).
The majority of terrorists are not interested in the US. The majority are local, international terrorism isn’t really all that common and it very difficult. Since 9/11 Al-Qu’ida has only hit “soft” targets, the threat is overblown. I’d argue that they got lucky on 9/11.
If your argument is *historically* the majority of terrorists are not Muslim then I agree. If the argument is that the majority of foreign terrorists that have a specific grievance with the US is not terrorists claiming to be Muslims then I’m not sure I agree.
I’ll go on record as saying that you cannot be a terrorist and a good Muslim. Islam is a religion of peace that has been hijacked by extremists.
By the way I don’t really think ELF and ALF are real terrorist organizations. They haven’t actually harmed any people and they are the majority of the “attacks” in the past 10 years. They are more along the lines of idiots rather than terrorists.
Finally my point is that why is there so much coverage of terrorists anyway? You are something like 250 times more likely to be shot than to die in a terrorist attack. How is that *normal*. I guess gun ownership is still a sacred cow? Aside from Bush ratcheting up the alert level to distract people when it was convenient.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:18 pm
The bottom line is that the statement “nearly all terrorists are Muslims” is false.
Agree or disagree?
Secondly: you don’t know what an outlier is. There can be four outliers. Please look up the meaning of the word.
Secondly: you compare the more menial acts of non-Muslim terrorism with the one single most gruesome act of terrorism by Islamic extremists. Your line of argumentation is this: you can’t compare blah blah blah with over two thousand people dying on 9/11. But I’m not doing that. I already agree that 9/11 was the most gruesome. But I’m saying that if you look at everything else other than 9/11, the acts of terrorism by Islamic extremists from that time period given are not the most remarkable. For example, Latino terrorism was much more and worse. Yet, you continually harp on the ELF, thereby trying to dictate the terms of the discussion.
If Latino terrorists were generally more active than Islamic ones, then that proves my point a lot: it is simply not true that nearly all terrorists are Muslims.
But again, you will keep harping on the ELF…That’s not the only group involved, so move along. I already posted a pie chart from the FBI which clearly shows what were the various acts of terrorism.
Sincerely,
Danios.
January 22nd, 2010 at 4:35 am
From 1990 to 2005, there were 9 fatal terrorist attacks in America:
1993 World Trade Center bombing: anti-US international Islamic extremists, 6 killed
1994 Brooklyn Bridge shooting: Lebanese anti-Zionist Rashid Baz, 1 killed
1995 Oklahoma City bombing: anti-government Timothy McVeigh et al., 168 killed
1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing: Christian extremist and white supremacist Eric Robert Rudolph, 2 killed
1999 Los Angeles Jewish Community Center shooting: anti-Semite Buford O. Furrow, 1 killed
1999 Chicago shooting spree: white supremacist Benjamin Nathaniel Smith, 2 killed
2001 September 11 attacks: anti-US international Islamic extremists, 2972 killed
2001 Anthrax attacks: depressed microbiologist Bruce Ivins?, 5 killed
2002 Los Angeles shooting: Egyptian anti-Zionist Hesham Hedayat, 2 killed
A couple of things to note:
NONE of the four “Islamic” (anti-US or anti-Zionist) attacks were carried out by US citizens.
ALL five of the others were carried out by US citizens (white supremacists, neo-Nazis, anti-government activists, and Christian anti-abortion, anti-homosexual extremists).
So, none of these attacks were by Muslim Americans. The Duke University study reported in CNN above shows “Muslim American communities have been active in preventing radicalization”. Charles Kurzman one of the researchers goes on to say “This is one reason that Muslim-American terrorism [poor choice of word] has resulted in fewer than three dozen of the 136,000 murders committed in the United States since 9/11.” In other words, despite Muslims being 2% of the American population, they were responsible for about 0.025% of all murders in the US since 9/11 (that’s about 80 times less than what would be expected assuming an even distribution).
The threat of “homegrown American Islamic terrorism” in the US (as opposed to Somalia or Pakistan) is therefore miniscule. The one possible example is Major Nidal Hasan and the Fort Hood tragedy, but this was complicated by psychological factors and was not connected to any extremist organisation. The Islamophobes, however, like to see all Muslims as one unified block: Muslims in America are no different to Muslims in Saudi Arabia who are no different to Muslims in China. The US faces a bigger homegrown Christian extremist/white supremacist/anti-abortionist/anti-government/neo-Nazi terrorist threat than it does an (internal) Islamic one.
January 22nd, 2010 at 8:08 am
This post is phenomenal and Danios, I dont know where you came from, but this is brilliant stuff! The Islamophobes dont stand a chance.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Hey loonwatch,
you forgot another mind blowing fact that Tamil Tiger who are Hindu are responsible for 70% suicide bombing since 2001 till today and thats according to Imran Khan famous former cricket player and politician. I had a credible source but I cant seemed to find it right now. I assure you they have done more suicide bombing than another extremist group in the world.Please take a look into it.
January 22nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
here is Presidential candidate Dr. Ron PAul confirming my statement before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBXwfygRb9g
January 23rd, 2010 at 4:23 am
The day the Muslims accept that most of the terrorist acts are the work of Muslims,the SUN will start rising in the West.Unfortunately,the Muslims will never change for the better.They are born losers.
January 23rd, 2010 at 8:13 am
don’t underestimate the power of stubborn idiots. I have run into a few. They are quite stupid.
January 23rd, 2010 at 3:41 pm
If we are to believe Muslims over the last two decades were the most violent of all religious, ethnic and national communities, a look at the worst crimes against humanity in the last two decades should prove this to be the case. However, a list of these (Bosnia, Rwanda and Darfur) reveals two of them were in fact directed against Muslims (Darfur by Muslims themselves and Bosnia by Christians with a strong Christian mythology motivating it), and the third (Rwanda) was against a rival Christian ethnic group but was supported to some degree by the Catholic clergy (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1252/is_13_128/ai_76915684/).
1. Rwanda, Hutus killing Tutsis, 1994 – 800,000 civilians killed http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/1288230.stm
2. Sudan in Darfur, 2003-9 – 200,000 civilians killed http://protection.unsudanig.org/data/darfur/papers/Hagan-%20Death%20in%20Darfur%20%28Sep06%29.pdf
3. Serbs in Bosnia, 1992-5 – 100,000 civilians killed http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot.com/2007/06/bosnian-book-of-dead.html
This excludes Iraq, the “largest major international conflict of the 21st century” (http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf) in which 655,000 were violently killed since the invasion (until 2006) with about half the violent deaths the result of attacks by coalition forces (see report).
It also excludes Liberia (1989-2003) in which many war crimes were reported (and many atrocities suffered by Muslims), and Russian wars against Chechen Muslims (1994-present) in which many war crimes were also reported (approximately 100,000 Chechan civilians lost their lives in both the first and second Chechan wars).
Civil wars are excluded, the most devestating being Africa’s World War or the Second Congo War (1998-2003), mostly between Christians, as a result of which 5 million lost their lives, and the Sudanese Civil War (1983-2005), between Muslims, Animists and Christians, in which 1.9 people million died, as in these civil wars there is enough blame to go around.
There are of course many human rights abuses all over the world e.g. Zimbabwe, Burma, Philippines, West Papua, Thailand, Kashmir, India, Pakistan, Israel/Palestine, Somalia etc. but these are not nearly as devestating as the above.
I think it’s safe to conclude Muslims over the last two decades were not the most violent religious community and in fact bore the brunt of a large proportion of human conflicts and crimes.
January 25th, 2010 at 9:39 am
[Snipped by Danios]
Comment by Danios: Hey, thanks a lot for the tip. Excellent comment! I decided to snip your comment because it deserves an entire article. I will definitely give you a hat tip for this. Cheers!
January 28th, 2010 at 1:21 am
Only problem I have with this data, is where is the key to the second pie chart? It does not break down each act, by specific group. I could be that only Mexicans bomb us, or on 10 out of the 209 bombings where Mexicans. So where is the rest of the data? This is the data that is important. What if Extreme Left Wing groups are the ones we should be afraid of because they have bombed us 200 times? Huh that’s what’s important.
January 28th, 2010 at 1:36 am
Jesse:
“What if Extreme Left Wing groups are the ones we should be afraid of”
I don’t think we should be afraid at all…of any group. We shouldn’t be sissies. “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”
Sincerely,
Danios.
January 28th, 2010 at 2:31 am
Well said Danios . Remember there are those such as Fox News , Murdoch press etc who want us to be afraid of everything as fear sells . They control fear they sell more papers and get more viewers. Remember the Nazis sold fear and blame to get votes . Its all about money . Remember Plastic Pam and the gnome telling people they would scare people so pay to come to their event. All the same con. Make people afraid and then control them.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:59 am
I think it is too narrow to limit terroism to US only. One should look at the global terrorism and see who are the main terrorisers and who are the killers, murderers. It seems that we lost our humanity to economics that kills to remain functional.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:37 am
Spread the word… It is very fair and supportive to the whole humanity not only Muslims.
There is a word I should say to every human-being in the world that:
“THIS IS A PROOF FOR THE MEDIA DECEPTION AND DISHONESTY. SO YOUR DUTY AND RIGHT AS A HUMAN TO CONSIDER EVERYTHING BEFORE BEING CONVINCED WITH IT”
January 29th, 2010 at 7:21 am
thank you for this article, i just want to mention the difference between jehad and terrorism.
i am muslim, comited to my religion , proud to be muslim and believe that islam is the religion of peace ,as Danios said i hear about taqia but i dont know what is it and i did not hear about kitman before.
back to jehad, what i understand about jehad is that when my country or any other muslim county get occupied by a foreign army i will fight against this army and i think his is the normal behavior of any normal human being who loves his country , imagine that your home s getting roped, you will not try to defense your family or your home ? i don’t know how this can be named as terrorism.
correct me if i am wrong, but as far as i know there are no muslim or arab armies occupying any western countries, but there are american and British and german ,..etc armies in Afghanistan and Iraq and other countries with no invitation this can be called as TERRORISM.
we (normal muslims and arabs) don’t hate Americans or western people, but we just hate when they ( their media exactly) lie about us and twist the truth , we are not monsters we are normal people who want to live normal life without occupation or interfering in their internal affairs but in the other hand we will sacrifice our lives for our religious and our countries and that is called commitment to religious and loyalty to our countries but it cant be named as terrorism.
at the end thank yo for every one who can see the truth and say it loud and for the others may GOD show you the truth as it is “not twisted”
January 29th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Islamophobes imply many things by assuming terrorism is:
a.)mostly a Muslim phenomenon
b.)is supported by Islam
that radically interfere with the reality of humankind, not just religions.
First they assume racial hegemony between Muslims of a variety of different backgrounds. It would be nice but humans always find ways to separate themselves
Secondly it assumes that Muslims are somehow more religious. If Islam is a religion of hatred, it would not be followed so strictly as generally, acts of chaos and violence do not bode well with societies.
Yes there are terrorists who call themselves Muslim. But why do they exist? Islamophobes will bypass the intricacies of human dynamism and cultural interactions and instead apply their own flavor of prejudice and stupidity. Seriously what are they trying to protect?
February 4th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
If you restrict statistics to events with fatalities, which gets rid of the “lab rats” argument, the JDL is responsible for 12% of fatal terrorist attacks, same as Muslim extremists. The attacks ARE significantly older, however, so them not being in the media as much makes sense.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:54 am
if it comes to terrorism we should refer to israel as primary source for un-stability in mid east ! all their exports are 50% of military industries and if we look at the imports we will find that they will receive the first models of “Joint strike force F-35″ that costs about 120 Million $ ! and for what ? for attacking some 2 story houses of families of the arrested occupation resistors as a punishment for the arrested ones !!!! now are we talking about terrorist or we need first to define the word and find the children murderers and manufacturers of horror ?
February 7th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
“I took the FBI table and highlighted each entry that went to each group. So what I can do is publish that color coded table. I chose not to do it above because it would cramp up the page. I’ll post the table as a separate page so whoever wants to see it can click on it. ”
I don’t see that page. Could you show where that page is? Thanks
February 7th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
“correct me if i am wrong, but as far as i know there are no muslim or arab armies occupying any western countries, but there are american and British and german ,..etc armies in Afghanistan and Iraq and other countries with no invitation this can be called as TERRORISM.”
We went into Afghanistan after 9-11. I don’t see you criticizing the main group (Al-Qaeda) behind the 9-11 attack for waging war against the US out of Afghanistan – they are the reason why we sent our troops there. I don’t see you talking about the Taliban who made Afghans life even more difficult. I am sure many of you like myself saw RAWA videos. My understanding is that the Taliban do not follow the real Islam, right? We read news reports in main stream news of Pakistanis complaining that after the Soviets left, the US abandoned them and Afghanistan. Well, thanks to Al-Qaeda we’re now in there. And there are plenty of Americans who disagreed with Iraq very strongly and never wanted to go there.
Perhaps everyone should stop generalizing everyone else as “terrorists.”
February 8th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Most terrorists are believers in some non-proofed idea.
First there is something behind the US borders – called world. Statistics about the US only are quite stupid – especial on terrorism which is not a real issue in the US.
In the US living only 0,6% Muslims they do 6% of all terrorism. Muslims tends 10 times higher to commit terror as non-Muslims. Jews only 4,3 times higher. The US does not make it easy to immigrate for the Muslims – filter out by education -> how these guys immigrate to the US then ?
February 10th, 2010 at 3:33 am
@Saturnous
First of all your statement that muslims are .6% of US population is false. The Muslims population is currently at 1-2% but definitely not under 1%. Also you have to take into account that the Neocons and Neolibs have blown up muslim countries(carpet bombings,cluster bombing) while these attacks happened. I am not justifying the attacks at all, all im saying some of the extremist think they are fighting agaisnt occupiers of their land. Mind that most muslims coutnries(not all ie indonesia,bangladesh,malaysia) were once a single country which were then divided up even the arabs are divided up into 22 countries by the British and french and other colonialist.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:20 am
Why is there no mention of right wing white terrorism between 1980 & 2005. The Order murdered Alan Berg in 1984, the Oklahoma bombing in 1995, Eric Robert Rudolph at the olympics in 96, James Kopp in 98. Is that what all the “others” are?
March 5th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
You sure churn up a lot of words on this site, but you seem to me sidestepping the real issue. You keep saying that the fear of ‘Islamic’ terror is overblown, but you don’t address the real acts of jihad/terror that have taken place in America. For that matter, why are you restricting the conversation to America? You are pretending that violent acts by Muslims around the world will never happen here. Violent acts by Muslims occur where there are Muslims. In Dearborn, Michigan some school children proudly parrot what their Muslim parents say: “I am not American, I am Muslim!” That is what the Major said before he shot his fellow soldiers in Texas. There is a concerted effort by Muslim ‘community leaders’ to pretend that Muslims in America are under attack. That way, they can peddle their messages of hatred in the community and the mosque. You sure enjoy ridiculing those who oppose Muslim hatred, but ridicule doesn’t make them wrong. The Muslim world is full of hate, and you don’t want to admit that. Check the violence against the Copts in Egypt. Check the couple in Saudi Arabia sentenced to 25 years in jail for handling a copy of the Koran with ‘dirty hands.’ Check the instances in Israel, the Phillipines, Chechnya, where Muslims deliberately targeted school children for murder. A nun was shot dead in the hospital she helped run because the local imam was angry at something the Pope said, and told his people to attack Christians. Muslim violence is real, and you can’t pretend it away.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:30 am
I usually dont submit inblogs but you Forced me to, fantastic
March 10th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
JP: The Muslim world is full of hate
To say otherwise would be Taqqiya right? :sarcasm:
March 10th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
JP,
“You sure churn up a lot of words on this site, but you seem to me sidestepping the real issue. You keep saying that the fear of ‘Islamic’ terror is overblown, but you don’t address the real acts of jihad/terror that have taken place in America.”
This blog isn’t for making Muslims look good. Its sole purpose is to expose anti-Islamic critics and “Islamophobes”. And I can’t really help you if your think Islamic terrorism isn’t overblown…
“For that matter, why are you restricting the conversation to America? You are pretending that violent acts by Muslims around the world will never happen here.”
We acknowledge that there are also violent Muslims, but the focus isn’t on them; it’s on the bigots who tout such extremist actions and beliefs as “true Islam”. Who said that violent acts by Muslims will never happen here?
“Violent acts by Muslims occur where there are Muslims. In Dearborn, Michigan some school children proudly parrot what their Muslim parents say: ‘I am not American, I am Muslim!’”
You’re generalizing here. If you generalize, you should say something like “Violent acts by *people* occur where there are *people*”. Radical Muslims aren’t the only people who commit violent acts.
If you want to know why those kids probably say that, it’s because Muslims consider Islam to be more important than anything, including America. That doesn’t give them the right to ignore US laws and rebel
“That is what the Major said before he shot his fellow soldiers in Texas. There is a concerted effort by Muslim ‘community leaders’ to pretend that Muslims in America are under attack. That way, they can peddle their messages of hatred in the community and the mosque.”
I’m not going to lie, I haven’t been to every single mosque across America. But what you wrote above clearly shows that you’ve never listened to a sermon, or at the most listen to sermons by nutty mullahs from Afghanistan. The most “hateful” messages I’ve ever heard were just about how God is angry at the Jews for changing the Torah, ect. and even that isn’t hateful because the Koran talks about “good” Jewish people (Jews who followed the uncorrupted Torah and believed in the day of judgement) and how they’ll go to heaven for their righteousness. Also, the Koran says not to attack anyone out of hatred and prejudice. But I digress…
“You sure enjoy ridiculing those who oppose Muslim hatred, but ridicule doesn’t make them wrong. The Muslim world is full of hate, and you don’t want to admit that.”
I would be inclined to agree if I didn’t visit the Muslim world, but I did. And it’s hardly like anything you mentioned. Why wouldn’t we admit that the Muslim world has hateful people?
Check the violence against the Copts in Egypt. Check the couple in Saudi Arabia sentenced to 25 years in jail for handling a copy of the Koran with ‘dirty hands.’
Yes, I think that the religious minorities are treated unfairly in some Muslim countries, and I’m against that as much as I am the persecution of Muslims.
Also, touching the Koran with dirty hands is not punishable by law. It’s an innovation and nothing more.
“Check the instances in Israel, the Phillipines, Chechnya, where Muslims deliberately targeted school children for murder. A nun was shot dead in the hospital she helped run because the local imam was angry at something the Pope said, and told his people to attack Christians.”
That’s terrible, I agree.
“Muslim violence is real, and you can’t pretend it away.”
Of course, but that doesn’t mean you can blow it out of proportion and demonize all Muslims.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
So that means there are 90 million Muslim terrorists. I really hope you people experience the joy of getting your heads chopped off by the Muslim sewage.
Comment by Danios: Haha, it’s awesome how stupid you are. You can’t even read the title correctly. That’s how poor your reading comprehension is. Hint: It’s not saying that 6% of MUSLIMS are terrorists, douchebag.
March 13th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
@ barrnakedislan:
that is, if the Latinos, communists, and the Jews don’t get us first!
Just echoing ur hateful babble.
March 13th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
“So that means there are 90 million Muslim terrorists. I really hope you people experience the joy of getting your heads chopped off by the Muslim sewage.”
LOLOL basic reading comprehension and statistics fails you.
March 13th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Typical selective Leftist deception.
Noone refers only to the US when discussing terrorism, there’s a big world out there dummies and the majority of terrorist acts are committed by your Muslim friends. Try to deny it.
March 13th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Douchebag:
“Typical selective Leftist deception”
A bad case of projection. It is the far right wing that engages in “selective deception.”
“Noone refers only to the US when discussing terrorism, there’s a big world out there dummies”
We have another article on terrorism in Europe, in which it is 99+% by non-Muslims. I do intend to write a third follow-up article that will take a look on the world scene what the situation is. Additionally, I will put up statistics about the severity of such attacks, which is the only defense the hatemongers come up with now. Stay tuned.
Sincerely,
Danios.
March 13th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Check out [snipped] smug lib.
Here’s a small sampling…
Sincerely,
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March 13th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Douchebag:
I provided statistics from the FBI and Europol. You come back and provide a hate website (ReligionofPeace.com) as your source, LOL. Got anything better than that? That’s actually the site I alluded to when I said that Islamophobes quote that phenomenal number of how many supposed acts of Islamic terror have been committed. It just doesn’t jive with the official data as provided by authoritative bodies.
Sincerely,
A very smug (and far smarter than you) liberal.
March 13th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
You’ve got to love how Danios trounces these clowns.
March 21st, 2010 at 4:37 am
I absolutely love your website..awesome..amazing and out of this world…I would like to know wat u guyz think about Tarek Fatah? I just watched him on a youtube video discussing about the “stealth jihad” on fox along side other certified loons.
March 25th, 2010 at 10:14 am
That’s all very interesting but the simple fact is that Islam is another man-made religion, followed by absolute sheep who cannot think for themselves, like every other religion. If everyone in the world just woke up, realised that there is no mythical being watching over us, and got on with just being a good person the world would be a much better place. Why people have to believe this absolute mumbo-jumbo (and in extreme cases use it as an excuse for murder)is completely beyond me! Just because your parents and your little friends believe something, it doesn’t mean you have to as well. It is called thinking for yourself, all you narrow-minded religious freaks out there should try it some time! Oh and if in the highly unlikely event that there was a God/Allah/Tooth Fairy, do you honestly think he would give a cr*p whether you stick your a*se up in the air while facing in a certain direction a certain number of times a day? Do you not think that an all-powerful being might have more important things to think about? Just thought I would give you something to contemplate, even though I know you won’t because religious bigots already have all the answers don’t they?
March 25th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Gee LJB UK, what a knowledge bank of theological expertise you are.
March 25th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Do these statistics include acts of state terror, such as those committed by the Israeli and American military in Palestine and Afghanistan and Iraq?
Or is blowing up things and killing civilians only defined as terrorism based on who does and to whom they do it?
March 26th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
This article and blog comments are fascinating. I’ve read there are about 1 and a half billion muslims in the world. I do not believe that many are terrorists. Whoever said that they were is stupid. Not even close. Like in the single digit percentage. But I would like to know if there is any reliable data that gives the approximate percentage that are?
April 2nd, 2010 at 7:58 pm
LJB UK
Just like communist leaders like Marx, Stalin and Mao who wanted a world without religion? No offense, I’m agnostic, but the world needs religion – it may silence people in bad ways, but in good ways too.
See: Islamic Golden Age, Jewish creations, Jainism, etc.
April 3rd, 2010 at 2:37 pm
LBJ UK so violence justified by that ante-diluvian relic of tribalism, euphemistically jazzed up as “Nationalism” is all fine & dandy is it now?
In fact atheistic Social Darwinist ideologies in the last century alone killed more human beings than that in the whole of the history of mankind prior to that era.
April 10th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Why is it so relevant if the Islamic terror is overblown or not? How is it relevant that non-Muslims commit terror attacks too? We all agree that there are Muslim Terrorists, correct? We all agree that Foreign Muslims have attacked the USA, causing death to American citizens, right? We all agree that the terror acts were premeditated and committed in the name of Islam, right? Great then, nuff said. At this point in our line of agreement, there is no reason to blame Islam nor to believe that a terror attack by a Muslim reveals anything new truths about the nature of Islam as a whole.
So, law enforcement does its job and because the attackers made a big deal about their motives being all about Islam, we see a variety of, understandably, infuriated Islamic clerics and organizations come out with statements or comments that say in some way, “Islam was not a sponsor of the terror. The terrorists in question were in no way representing the views of the Islamic religion in there actions.” case closed. We go about recovering from the damage knowing that at least Islam, nor any other world-scale group, did this terror: which is good, because had the terror not been just another isolated crime, committed by random crazy people that come out of the woodwork every now and then to do something crazy and awful.
As we know this isn’t how the situation unfolded and not the response that ensued.
Instead of a solid, unmistakable rejection of support by Islam for the terrorists, we get news that there are a bunch more of them. Enough terrorists claiming intentions on behalf of Islam, for “Islam” not to have been aware. Where were the normal, peaceful Muslims before the attack – announcing to us that there are some freaks claiming to be Muslims and they want to kill you? There were at least thousands of such terrorists training in some way, somewhere, wouldn’t you say? If so, is it reasonable to believe that thousands of crazy people, trained for years to attack America, and none of the “99.99%” peace loving Muslims knew about them until they heard of the attack, just like the rest of us?
Islam has only good intentions, and wishes us Americans well – but somehow it slipped their mind to be clear about whatever they knew of the threat? That’s after how many years that they might have bothered to address and deal with the problem for the benefit of their own religion and organization; no peace loving organization would tolerate and ignore thousands of crazy guys, training and preparing to kill people in the name of the organization, right?
1. Muslims had to know about the terrorists.
2. Muslims, before the terror, did not denounce and dispel the terrorists; if the terrorists were so radically distorting Islamic doctrine and offending Islamic values, why weren’t the offenders expelled, condemned, reported, spotlighted and/or whatever actions a large group might take to protect their own interests.
3. Muslims didn’t announce, at least in any kind of way that Americans like myself would notice, any threats, warnings, threat alerts, or news releases of any nature. No heads up about the existence of radical crazy people that want to kill us. No mention of some trouble they were having with small but growing group of crazy people claiming to be Muslims. No reports to law enforcement officials from a single Muslim who heard some Emom, or fellow Muslim, say something that sounded kind of scary.
So we have: Millions of peaceful Muslims. A few thousand crazy people training for Jihad and planning to kill in the name of Islam. And not one of those Millions of peaceful, innocent Muslims knew anything about it. That can’t be true, right? That’s why I hold Islam accountable and question the values and intentions of the religion as a whole.
April 27th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
israelis are terrorists. they have killed 425 innocent civillians and injured 2200 people many of the injured are children who have had their legs amputated. A typical scene in gaza:
A paletsinian child from teh gaza strip:
-amputated legs
-on a wheel chair
-an orphan
-his mums a widow
-no food or money
-uneducated
the same goes for the generations before. how can you possibly call them terrorists.
israelis are the ones using F-16 BOMBS not palestinians. they try fight back because they have dignity and want to stand up for themselves so they throw HOME MADE ROCKETS that are up to a max of 1m. COME ON how long would it take people to realise this
April 27th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
French man:
I would stay away from saying “Israelis”, because there are also Israelis who are human rights workers who speak out against their own government, peaceniks who refuse to fight, etc etc.
In the words of the Quran, a book you may value if you are a Muslim: “Not all of them are alike…”
But yes, I agree with you that the *state* of Israel is a terrorist state. It was founded upon terrorism and today engages in state terror.
Sincerely,
Danios.
April 27th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
HEY DIRK,
Muslims fought terrorism way befor 9/11 and according to the Egyptian Prez, warned America about an impending attack, even the Northern Alliance was fighting Al Qeada and the Taliban before American invaded Afghanistan
April 27th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
Countless countries around the world have a great deal of violence in their early histories, yet you think Israel is uniquely evil? You’re also ignoring the positive side of Israel’s early history, such as the thousands of volunteers who made up the Jewish brigades as opposed to the low number of Arabs who fought for the allies.
Comment by Danios: First, Israel continues operating with “a great deal of violence” to this day. Second, the number of Muslims who fought on the side of the Allies numbers in the millions.
April 27th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
“First, Israel continues operating with “a great deal of violence” to this day.”
Compared to other Middle Eastern nations and other countries such as Serbia it’s easy to see that Israel doesn’t deserve to be singled out as a ‘terrorist state’.
“Second, the number of Muslims who fought on the side of the Allies numbers in the millions.”
Please provide a source for this fantasy number; there was only Arab Palestine brigade, even wikipedia can tell you that:
“The British were unable to achieve their goal of enlisting an equal number of Jews and Arabs into the Palestine Regiment. There was one Arab volunteer to each three Jews.”
Not to mention the election of Amin El Husseini and the fact that nazi propaganda was embraced by Egypt which lead to Egypt sheltering nazis such Aribert Heim. Let me be clear that I’m not equating Islam to nazism; this is an issue of culture not religion.
April 27th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Mahgoub; one of the key problems with communism was it’s rejection of human rights and how it demanded absolute devotion, two traits shared by religion. Crediting religion with things that great men such as Ibn Rushd achieved is absurd. Mainly because if we study the actual history we learn that Ibn Rushd had his books burnt multiple times on the orders of a caliph and Islamic rules were the main reason that muslims failed to preserve Galen’s methods. I fail to see how the achievements of the Jewish people can be credited to religion and how is Jainism an achievement? Granted their flag looks good on an armband but c’mon. It’s time for people to realize that no one needs something as absurd as religion; haven’t we had enough centuries of lives being ruined because of silly fables?
April 27th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Cagliostro:
Israel is one of the worst offenders when it comes to state terrorism. One can simply count the number of dead and displaced because of their actions, which numbers in the millions.
“Please provide a source for this fantasy number; there was only Arab Palestine brigade, even wikipedia can tell you that”
It is not my problem if your knowledge is limited to wikipedia. Do you know how many Muslims from India fought on the side of the Allies? If you did, you wouldn’t have the audacity to use the words “fantastic” when you speak with me. We’ve been over this a million times on this site, and I think we should finally publish an article to shut you guys up once and for all: there were hundreds of thousands of Muslims–maybe millions–who fought on the side of the Arabs, and your lack of knowledge about that is only reflective of your profound ignorance.
Sincerely,
Danios.
April 27th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
“Israel is one of the worst offenders when it comes to state terrorism. One can simply count the number of dead and displaced because of their actions, which numbers in the millions.”
So you think Israel is worse than Iran, Saudi Arabia, Serbia etc? Don’t make me laugh.
“It is not my problem if your knowledge is limited to wikipedia. Do you know how many Muslims from India fought on the side of the Allies?”
I said Arabs, not Muslims; go back and reread my post you clearly didn’t understand it.
April 27th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
“So you think Israel is worse than Iran, Saudi Arabia, Serbia etc? Don’t make me laugh.”
According to objective peace rankings, Israel is part of the butt of humanity.
http://www.visionofhumanity.org/gpi/results/rankings.php
“Global Peace Index Rankings
The table below provides the GPI rankings for the 144 countries analysed in 2009. Rankings for the 140 countries analysed in 2008 and the 121 countries analysed in 2007 are also included. Countries most at peace are ranked first. A lower score indicates a more peaceful country. You can click on a country to see the detail of its peace indicators and drivers.
99. Iran
104. Saudi Arabia
140. Sudan
141. Israel
142. Somalia
143. Afghanistan
144. Iraq “
April 27th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
I think isreal is worse than the countries you mention
look at the new Berlin wall they have built
lthey already have atomic weapons and the threat they pose to neighbours
look at the recent invasion of Gaza
other countries are not perfect by all means but you cannot go on opressingwhole communities
April 28th, 2010 at 12:04 am
Cagliostro, Israel calls itself a liberal democracy and many in the West say it is(although it is really a psuedo-theocracy since in order for it to exist it has to have majority Jewish population and they call themselves a Jewish state, unlike America which doesn’t call itself officially a Christian nation or have to have a Christian majority no matter what the Republicans think) while Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc. are not considered democracy even by their own populations. This is why Israel is held to a higher standard. While it may not be a terrorist state, it uses excessive force and has sometimes killed civilians indiscriminately. It is also a fact that many of its past political leaders such as former Prime Minister Begin(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun) and Shamir(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern_gang), were terrorists before Israel founding and killed British, Jewish and Arab Civilians including in the King David Hotel Bombing which was praised by current PM Nethanyahu who created a memorial for those terrorists on the 60ths anniversary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
April 28th, 2010 at 1:26 am
Cagliostro:
“So you think Israel is worse than Iran, Saudi Arabia, Serbia etc?”
Absolutely. There is no question about that. Iran has never attacked another country for over a century, and Saudi Arabia–aside from a very brief border war in the 1930′s–has never invaded another country since its creation. Meanwhile, Israel has attacked, invaded, and occupied numerous countries, and utilized state terror to kill and displace millions of people. If you count the number of civilians killed and displaced by Israel, and compare it to those killed/displaced by Saudi Arabia, there is absolutely no comparison. Israel wins by a landslide. Still laughing?
I suspect, however, you will be forced to move the goalposts now, and start talking about stuff other than state terror.
“said Arabs, not Muslims; go back and reread my post you clearly didn’t understand it.”
You are the one who did not read my post. I said “Muslims” and then you stupidly said “where’d you get that fantastic number from?” But since you are obviously caught off guard by what I said, you have been forced to restrict it now to “Arabs” and shy away from your “fantastic number” comment.
But OK, let’s now talk about Arabs. Notwithstanding the mufti (whom Islamophobes like you love to point to), Palestinians joined the British against the Nazis, and several Palestinian brigades existed. And then we have the example of Morocco, the fourth most populous Arab country, whose king was a staunch ally of the Allies.
Upwards of half of the free French forces that landed in southern France in 1944 were North and West Africans, most of which were Muslims and many of whom were Arabs.
Muslims, both Arabs and non-Arabs, had a very big contribution to the Allied effort, and you are an intolerant bigot for even bringing this up. Do you bash Japanese people since “they” supported the Nazis? You should be ashamed of yourself for even bringing this sort of tribalistic thinking to the world.
But to completely silence you, I will remind you (or rather, *inform* you since you are no doubt ignorant of it, being the ignoramus you are) of the Zionist collaboration with the Nazis. The Lehi (Stern Gang)–a Zionist terrorist group that helped to found the state of Israel–offered the Nazis their assistance, promising to spy on the Allies, and help the Nazis engage in sabotage. They promised to wage war in the Middle East on behalf of the Nazis.
Since you obviously don’t know this group (due to your profound ignorance), I will save you the trouble of searching for them on wikipedia and reproduce it here:
“In 1980 the group was honored by the institution of the Lehi ribbon, a military decoration awarded “for military service towards the establishment of the State of Israel”.[10] Future Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Shamir was among its leaders.”
Please, do not waste my time now. Run along, Barry.
Sincerely,
Danios.
April 28th, 2010 at 1:28 am
Loonwatch
Behold how Caglisotro/Barry Lyndon/Wilbur Whitely/Cassidy/Hellyboy?and how many other monikers this character has had here, shifts and diverts the thread off topic
I think it is very clear that his sole purpose here is to
1. Let’s divert subjects
2. Let’s convince Muslims they’re better off as atheists
3. To be successfully able to post my garbage, it’s better I pose as a friend in civil rights.
Well this odious character does not bring anything of value here. He deliberately twists and rewrites history to fit his bigotry against religon.
I know you probably want to increase readership and a lively comments section is to be encouraged, but that doesn’t mean that the Wilbur Whitelys of the world should be given a platform here. He/she is in the wrong place.
I see no reason why he/she cannot start his own forum, many platforms like Wordress or blogger are available freely for him to post his obsessions. We should not have to suffer them. Don’t take my word for it, put it to the vote here, that’s only fair.
I suggest this,
1. How about having a poll at Loonwatch, (open source polls can be found on the internet) and asking members to vote on obnoxious members for a permanent ban.
2. Banning persistent offenders by IP.
3. Have a membership where members have to register with password and IP. This won’t stop the likes of Cagliostoro, but that couples with IP monitor should stop return offenders from infesting this website.
April 28th, 2010 at 2:11 am
“there is absolutely no comparison. Israel wins by a landslide”
Wrong, [snipped]
Comment by Danios: I didn’t read past your first line, because–like I suspected–you moved the goalposts. What does “whipping rape victims” have to do with state terror? *This* is the reason why I don’t approve your comments, because you are a master at moving the goal posts thereby making it impossible to end debates with you. Good bye, Barry.
April 28th, 2010 at 4:00 am
Beautiful Muslim Doll:
I have requested the admin numerous times to ban Barry. However, the admin has said that he (Barry) hasn’t done anything ban worthy.
There is a difference of opinion between various LW writers on the level of moderation that should be done. In my articles, however, he is not welcome…the only reason being that I get royally annoyed by the way he constantly moves the goalposts.
Sincerely,
Danios.
April 29th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
The title of this article is HORRIBLE. It implies that the data says that 6% of muslims are terrorists, and not that only 6% of terrorist attacks in the US are by muslims.
PLEASE CHANGE THE TITLE.
And by the way, when 6% people who are in millions are terrorists, then those are TOO MUCH. So again, change the title to reflect what the facts say.
Comment by Danios: I thank you for your concern, but the title does not imply that all. That would only be the case if it read “Only 6% of Muslims are terrorists.”
May 19th, 2010 at 7:22 am
I find this very childish =D I think ur all children trying to present all those big arguments. just where has the simplicity in life gone too? we’re all humans =/ we all live in the same world…and yet we fight?
May 19th, 2010 at 10:10 am
So the most dangerous group to America (next to latinos) is liberals?
Where is the “extreme right wing groups” section?
May 30th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
Wow, Danios. No idea how you find the time to generate such a great page, much less to dance with so many commentators. But I’m glad I followed the link to your page. Trackback to http://muslimmatters.org/2010/05/30/time-for-action-sunday-open-thread-53009-michael-berry-740ktrh-muslim-advocatescall-white-house-june-4/ (Sorry, it’s a ridiculously long link. Shortened version: http://bit.ly/dBtUlg )
I myself gave up reading the comments half-way down the page, so I have no idea whether you plan on doing an analysis of the types of acts of terrorism which the FBI blames on each group. For example, are all the bombs blamed on Muslims?
Data mining almost always ends in crimes against intelligence and logic, but at least your charts show that TV and print media do not portray reality.
June 9th, 2010 at 10:37 am
I am SO glad to see that the muslims who are behind this website admit that 6% … SIX PERCENT …. of the muslims ARE terrorists!!!!
Let’s see, 6% of 1.5 BILLION muslims is that there are 90 MILLION MUSLIM TERRORISTS!!!!!!
NINETY MILLION MUSLIM TERRORISTS!!!!
Thank you for admitting that!! lol
June 9th, 2010 at 10:58 am
It’s amazing how many people can’t read properly. Nobody said that 6% of Muslims are terrorists.
June 9th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Danios But I am sure Pam Geller will soon
June 9th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Unfortunately, not being able to read and/or use rational thought is a common affliction!
June 9th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Thanks, Danios for ever being the muslim apologist! Nice submission there, Danios!
June 9th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
No problem.
June 9th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
NoDhimmi,
Did you bother to read this article? You obviously don’t reflect well on the JihadWatch readership.
June 10th, 2010 at 9:46 am
terror is actually just a latin word for awe.
Today it seems only used for muslims and then congratulate them self at their decisions that only muslims are terrorist.
its like saying a western bomb which kills people is not terror cause they west drop it form a plane
June 10th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Rama, do not try to teach Latin to all of us when it is obvious you do not have a clue of what you are talking about.
“Terror’ is NOT from the Latin meaning ‘awe’.
You would love it to be and to think that the world would be in AWE of islam! Nothing could be further from the truth! The world DESPISES the barbarity and the inhumanity of islam!
The word “terror” comes from the Latin word “terrere” which means “to FRIGHTEN”. Not ‘awe’! But to “frighten”!
And that is why mohammed the liar commanded his inhuman followers to strike fear into the heart of those who were not muslims. His own family disowned him and drove him out of Mecca! Everyone hated him! So he went to lying and attacking and torturing and killing people wherever he went!
What a nice heritage islam has!!!!!
June 10th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
And mohammed was the first practitioner of TERRORISM!!!
And since he is the EXAMPLE of a PERFECT MAN, all muslims feel that they have to follow mohammed’s example and be terrorists! And to gain their 72 virgins!
Unfortunately for you, here is what your 72 virgins look like!! rotflol
[link snipped]
June 12th, 2010 at 9:49 am
It is true that behind every mass movement or idea, an ‘ism’ is attached. This ‘ism’ is often coherent with the ideology of the followers or a name quoted by media. It is the media, who have reserved the word ‘terrorism’ exclusively for Jihadis! All others who are involved in such activities are given different ‘isms’ that either glorify their work or softens their acts of terror!
So terrorists in Jharkhand are called ‘maoists’ or ‘naxals’. Terrorists in the north-eastern states are called ‘militants’. Tamil terrorists in Sri Lanka are dubbed as ‘tigers’ while the Irish terrorists were ‘separatists’. Terrorists in Africa are ‘insurgents’, The Cuban terrorists were ‘rebels’, the Hungarian ones were ‘extremists’, the Chinese terrorists are ‘radicals’ and the American terrorists are ‘counter-insurgents’. The Israeli terrorists are ‘commandos’ and the communist terrorists are ‘revolutionaries’.
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June 13th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
I don’t car if they are or are not terrorists. Get them out of the country.
Why do non-whites insist on invading White countries? We don’t want you in the USA, Canada, or Europe. Get out.
June 17th, 2010 at 3:42 am
good to see that someone tried to understand what the hell media is doing, they are just highliting bad stories so that in genral people get implression of all the bad thing in this world is due to muslims. i wonder someone dont say that world war 1 & 2 was started due to muslims, and atom bomb on japan was droped by muslims!
for God sake, stop blaming everything to muslim, and stop making sideline to us, we are the same muslim before 9/11, every nation/religion has bad and good people, if there are few bad ones in us, it doesnt mean, all the muslims are bad. i wish we alll could live with peace.
June 18th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
rizwan yahya, you said, “good to see that someone tried to understand what the hell media is doing, they are just highliting bad stories so that in genral people get implression of all the bad thing in this world is due to muslims.”
Nothing could be further from the truth, rizwan!
muslims are wonderfully capable all by themselves to show the world that most of what is bad is due to muslims! Over 90% of the conflicts currently going on in the world right now are due to islam!
Contrary to what YOU say, the media has been a lapdog of the muslim apologists and the media covers up MOST of the muslim terrorist attacks so that people do not even know about them.
So, rizwan, you are WRONG on all counts!
June 19th, 2010 at 12:53 am
NotADhimmiYetbutADumbass: Over 90% of the conflicts currently going on in the world right now are due to islam!
Is Islam a walking talking entity capable of carrying out conflicts?
June 19th, 2010 at 3:54 am
Let’s see this NotADhimmyYet (NADY) brother. Or, to be exact, this NADY lil bro.
NADY said: “Let’s see, 6% of 1.5 BILLION muslims is that there are 90 MILLION MUSLIM TERRORISTS!!!!!!”
I say: Look at the article, here you go since I’m not sure your defunct brain can do it on its own “But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).” ==> 6% refers to terrorist attacks comitted on US. Soil. DO ALL MUSLIM, the 1.5 Billion, served as the bassis for that 6%? NOPE.
NADY said: “And that is why mohammed the liar commanded his inhuman followers to strike fear into the heart of those who were not muslims. His own family disowned him and drove him out of Mecca! Everyone hated him! So he went to lying and attacking and torturing and killing people wherever he went!”
Don’t be shy o you lil boy. Show us.
I say: Baseless accusation. You’re too desperate I see. You’re calling our Prophet as a liar, care to show where? what? when?
WAITTT, may I use the Bible?
Numbers 31:13-18 NIV
13 Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle. 15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
WAIIITTT, WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE?
Ezekiel 9:3-8 NIV
3 Now the glory of the God of Israel went up from above the cherubim, where it had been, and moved to the threshold of the temple. Then the LORD called to the man clothed in linen who had the writing kit at his side 4 and said to him, “Go throughout the city of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of those who grieve and lament over all the detestable things that are done in it.” 5 As I listened, he said to the others, “Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. 6 Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children, but do not touch anyone who has the mark. Begin at my sanctuary.” So they began with the elders who were in front of the temple. 7 Then he said to them, “Defile the temple and fill the courts with the slain. Go!” So they went out and began killing throughout the city. 8 While they were killing and I was left alone, I fell facedown, crying out, “Ah, Sovereign LORD! Are you going to destroy the entire remnant of Israel in this outpouring of your wrath on Jerusalem?”
What say you NADY? Especially in response to “And mohammed was the first practitioner of TERRORISM!!!”
hmm? lol
July 3rd, 2010 at 9:00 am
RE: “All Terrorists are Muslim…” Give me a break. Very few Americans think all terrorists are Muslims. Me, like a fool, started to believe your statistics until I looked them up myself on the FBI website. These statistics cover all kinds of “terrorist” attacks, even when a loon takes a neighbor hostage. When you look at the deaths by political ideology bombing/attacks, however, then you get a very different picture. See the FBI graph in the same document breaking down the casualties caused by terrorist attacks. About 90% are from Islamic extremists. Loonwatch: please look in the mirror.
July 5th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Danios…you are the man. Thank you for bringing some sense to all this bullshi*. Keep it up, we need more balance in fear-saturated America.
July 5th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
That guy in Time Sq with the SUV full of explosive was a Rabbi.
You guys are so far out there, it’s funny to watch. Loonwatch indeed!
July 9th, 2010 at 9:58 am
So, looks like we should be Latinophobes instead, eh? Of the groups listed, how many have dropped to multi-story office buildings with thousands of victims?
July 9th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Since you will not post two of my messages, let me post them again….
“NotADhimmiYet Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
June 23rd, 2010 at 9:23 pm
ibn abu talib, you said, “Is Islam a walking talking entity capable of carrying out conflicts?”
In a word Yes!! A resounding YES!!!
Your own brother muslims declare it! They are a great “muslim army” at war with the west!”
July 14th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
The above article is known as lies, damn lies and statistics. In effect juggling with figures. If you count 9/11 as 1 attack, then yeah, I guess that the above chart is correct. If you however take the bodycount in to account to provide a better representation of the impact of terrorism per kind of perpetrator, the slice of the islamic extremism will explode. This because those few unlucky abortion doctors can’t make up for 9/11.
But that of course isn’t the goal of this article. The goal of the article is to redeem Islam of terrorism? To what purpose actually?
July 18th, 2010 at 8:44 am
there is a calculation eror in d pie chart the total is 320 not 318
July 22nd, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Well, I think the media covers the terror plots based on scale. I think that the it’s front page news no matter who tries to plant a bomb in times square. In fact that was front page news before anyone new the bomber’s motivations. Same with Ft. Hood.
July 26th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
If you tell a lie long enough people will begin to believe it!
July 28th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Just for the info your main article highlights how jews have committed more terrorist crimes than Muslims on US soil. Yet the JDL was only active between 1980 and 1986 committed 17 terrorist acts killing a total of 7 people.
and then when you expand the database to 2010 later on you momit Islamic crimes by highlighting that Puerto Ricans commit the most terrorist acts.
Yet one single act in 2001 out performs all the others added up, why the Washington shooter killed more people than the JDL.
Poor article
July 29th, 2010 at 5:50 am
Those who say “How come there are no Christian terrorist groups that murder people?” would do well to do a bit of research on the Lord’s Resistance Army in Africa. Then spend a minute pondering that quote about casting the first stone.
August 2nd, 2010 at 4:50 am
ak Says:
June 13th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
“I don’t car if they are or are not terrorists. Get them out of the country.”
Why should they get out? Are you the president?
“Why do non-whites insist on invading White countries? We don’t want you in the USA, Canada, or Europe. Get out.”
Invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan by non-whites? Are you being silly now?
Why should they get out?Do you own this country? Why don’t you get out of this website and crawl back to where your hatred is welcomed (ie Jihadwatch). Get a life loser, hatred begets hatred as I have proved.
August 8th, 2010 at 5:31 am
Bro…..YOU DA MAN!!!
YEA!!! SHOW ‘EM WHOS BOSS!!!
sorry for my troll like language…just wanted to let you know my appreciation…
August 8th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Muslims murdered at least 5 million Muslims and others:
World-wide Muslim terrorist atacks. Sadam (2,5 million Muslims) Djanjaweed in Sudan (1 million) Idi Amin at least 50.000, Ghaddafi, Iran: Mullah Khomeinie and still Ammajinnidad, Muslims murdering Muslims in Afghanistan, Pakistan, in Irak also Al Qaeda, Egypt, Somalia, Eritrea,
in Indonesia:1950s
Revolt by conservative Muslims in Sumatra (1958-61): 3,735 govt. + 29,708 rebels [= 33,443]
S&S, Eckhardt:
Govt. vs. Moluccans (1950): 5,000
Govt. vs. Darul Islam (1953): 1,000
Govt. vs. Leftists (1956-60): 30,000
TOTAL: 36,000
WHPSI:
1950: 1,300
1951: 2,200
1952: 1,500
1953: 493
1954: 419
1955: 4,500
1956-60: 27,980
TOTAL 38,392 deaths
Not to forget thousands of communists murdered by Indonesian Government.
Muslims also murder christian in Indonesia – Atjeh, Lombok; and in many other Islamic countries, such as Pakistan regularly, where around 1970 progroms on christians ‘Black Blasphemy Laws’. Christian are murdered by Talibans, not allowed in S.A. Christians appear not to be welcome amongst Muslims, amazing that Muslims are so eager to come to Western countries full of christians – and Jews – such as in Britain. Where ‘God save the Queen’ is certainly not ‘Allah’ in Koran, but blasphemy for the christian Queen of England, blasphemously called ‘Jezus’ in Koran in Christendom a bit much of an insult for christians.
How come ‘Moses and Abraham were Muslims’? Two Jews as ‘the first Muslims’? Oh no, sorry ‘the first Muslims were Adam and Eve’ taken from the Jews’ Thora.
I’d say Muslims you should be gratful to the Jews and christians for a large part of Koran.
However, since Koran ruthlessly abolishes Christendom and Judaisme, christians and Jews have nothing to be grateful for, not done to distort other people’s Holy Books; and Koran does so using violence against christians and Jews. This while Koran, apart from sura’s, with many things changed, copied from the New Testament (in essence Christianity) and the Old Testament/Thora from the Jews.
Without Christendom – and Judaisme of the Jews – Koran would be very thin indeed.
Wish you well learning about the true Koran/Mohammed as the true inspiration for ‘jihad’ (except for one defending war) from the start Mohammed conquered with the sword; and after Mohammed followed 10 centuries of attacking wars by Muslims invasions of India, Persia, Egypt, Jeruzalem, Constantinople (Istanbul) Spain, Italy, Poland, Greece, Hungary, Balkans …
Islam never was a religion of Peace.
The best prescription for self-knowledge is to know your own history.
Note that only Muslim immigrants have attacked in Europe.
The Talibans are the Nazi Gestapo of Afghanistan, with mullah’s as warlords enriching themselves at the expense of poor Afghans; and ‘sharia’ punishments in courts as the Koran Inquisition, a disaster stranglehold against development of Afghanistan.
Saddam a mass murderer of Muslims….
every Islamic country forms of dictatorship – for one censureship. Prohibited to leave Islam, punishable by death sentence under ‘sharia’, made life-long prisoners of Koran, but ‘slaves’.
I wish you Muslims well.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:13 am
^ Right, considering your vast knowledge of the Qur’an, I’m sure you know that a good portion of Jews and Christians will be admitted to Paradise right? Whoops, so much for “ruthlessly abolishing CHRISTIANITY and JUDAISM (learn to spell damnit)”. The facts are in your face buddy, no need to recall fabricated historical figures to prove a moot point. *facepalm*
August 14th, 2010 at 7:15 am
Muslims are not terrorists, they are the best people on earth.
August 16th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
good job danios. u r the man!!
August 18th, 2010 at 5:47 am
Even FBI is not immune to the discrimination. All the attacks for which Al Qaeda is alleged are marked in blue. Also the attacks in Madrid, Riyadh, London are also mentioned which are not US soil. So all the attacks by Al Qaeda anywhere in the world pose a threat to US security but by any other non-Muslim organisation certainly is not.
August 19th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Funny that they call out “Left” Wing groups but no mention of the “Right” wing terrorists like McVey, or the Aryan Nation or the Militias.
August 19th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
Just curious, what percentage of islamophobes are straw-men? According to this article it must be close to 100%.
August 22nd, 2010 at 10:57 pm
article was good and the importance which was given the for muslims was excellent thank you http://manashosting.com
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:24 am
Where does Russell Edgington fall on this scale? That time he ripped the spine out of that reporter or national TV was pretty terrifying.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:56 pm
How are abortion clinic bombings not included in this? why are the christian terrorists that i’m guessing are listed as “other” not listed as their own category?
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:48 pm
HOPELESS! AMF!
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Very informativE article. when will the people realise this false propgotation?? and i dont understand why these islamophobes are scared of this relgion, Islam.i personally think no matter what this miscreantrs do.. Truth will Prevail
August 24th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Some people have made the semi-valid point that you can’t judge by the number of attacks, but rather the size of the attacks. In this particular case, however, where we are trying to judge the propensity of a group of humans to be terrorists, or not, as the case may be, the absolute correct criterion is not the number of attacks. However, it is also not the number of victims. Rather, it is the number of terrorists involved in the attacks.
Hence, if you assume that the average terrorist cell is 2-3 people, then in 2001, there was spike where the number of Islamist attackers was 19. Multiplying by 20/(2+3/2), this gives a thumb of 6% x 8, or about half of the terrorist attackers in 2001 were Islamists. This seems to have been a temporary spike that went back down as this excellent article discusses.
The two known numbers here are the 19 and the 6%, we are not sure about the size of the average terrorist cell. 2-3 is pretty small, if the average is larger, then the actual percentage.
Hence, it is incorrect to assume that the tragedy of 3,000 dead somehow overwhelms all other attacks as far as the virulence of the philosophy of the attackers is concerned.
If you want to go by size of victims, over a million people have died in Iraq, at least tens of thousands of them certainly innocents. The Iraqis have paid for 9/11 far more than anyone else, despite the fact that they had nothing to do with it and never had WMDs.
September 2nd, 2010 at 9:35 am
As long as islam is treated as a religion, the West doesn’t have a prayer in hell to survive. Death to free speech. Death to libraries. Death to womens’ rights.
Listen up.
islam: a political philosophy, as is socialism, fascism, communism, totalitarianosm. NOT a religion. Get it?
Most of you don’t have the mental capacity to figure it out. Some of you, howevewr, are blessed with the brains that God gave you and can figure out that, once sharia law is impimented, that’s it for freedom forever. Examples of this fact is just to look at muslim countries surrounding Saudi.
They were once normal countries until they were taken over by islam, and now look at them. Pulling girls fingernails out with pliers for wearing fingernail polish.
Think about it. Send them all back to their sandbox.
September 2nd, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Cheryl, you’re so daft.