The Looniest Blogger Ever: Pamela Geller
Pamela Geller is up to her old antics, employing more over the top hyperbole peppered with frequent cases of verbal diarrhea. Now she is saying that the Holocaust was the fault of the Mooslims, and that the Nazis were just adopting “Jihad.”
Nazis adopted the Muslim idea of Jihad – total destruction and complete annihilation in the spirit of a Holy War.
Of course this was the next step for Pam, demonize the Muslims and Islam to its logical end, next she will be saying that Hitler was a Muslim. Where does she get this wild stuff, and then she claims that she isn’t a conspiracy theorist?
Pamela Geller seems to have stumbled on something that World War II scholars and Holocaust historians didn’t know, a fact that has been “suppressed” by the world in a conspiracy to further Islamic Jihad,
As the leading role the Islamic world played in the Holocaust comes out of the shadows and into the fore, and decent peoples recoil in repulsion, it is necessary for Islamic media, “scholars” and asshats-in-residence to rewrite history — as Islam has done so exceedingly and singularly well all throughout history.
Pam wants us to believe that the colonized Muslims in Africa and Asia somehow made the regular trip to Concentration Camps to gas Jews, and then went back home to be ruled by Europeans? Insane.
Other Insane stuff on her blog:
The not so new crusade against Muslim Chaplains in prison is also making the rounds on the anti-Muslim sites, and Pamela Geller is no exception. She lays it out succinctly as only a proud bigot can,
All Muslim Chaplains are Jihadists
Her insanity on Barack continues, calls him an “Usurper,” “Megalomaniac”, and something called “L-Dopa.”
This is the face of the Tea Party right wing, and Conservative blogs love her because she gives them what they want to hear; hate. At least it’s a good laugh.
Here is a blast from the past from Keith Olberman who recognized the insanity of Pamela Geller a long time ago.(hat tip: Pamela Geller)
February 8th, 2010 at 11:01 am
His ratings might have dipped but Keith Olberman is still the man.
Pammy has to try and create a new version of history, that way if you demonize Islam and say they caused World War II more people will hate Mooslims and support Israel and the right wing.
February 8th, 2010 at 11:12 am
I’m waiting for a well-argued refutation of Geller’s claims. I don’t see one. Is one coming up, or is name-calling all you can do?
February 8th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Uhhhh pathetic much? Self taught ” scholars” have no right to interpret history or religion to others. Ever wonder why Spencer and geller and the like are not helping Muslims deradiclaize and just criticize their faith? No criticizing is the wrong word: hate and fear mongering about their faith? Idk does anyone else???
And it is fear/hate mongering. Because u can be critical of Christianity, u can be critical of Judaism, but endorse in the stoopidest and most bigoted attacks and u suddenly lost all ur credibility. Do it to Islam, an ur credibility just increased tenfold! That’s what’s wrong with fitna (wilders film) and pammy and Bobby. Their “criticism of Islam” causes hate and fear.
February 8th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Hey MF, this lady is my heroin !! Pam for President !! She would kick the hell out of those muzzie asses !
February 8th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Elpus how do you argue with batshit crazy? There’s no talking logic and rationality with someone like Pam Geller.
Should one argue about Obama being a Muslim?
Is there a need to refute that Obama might be the child of Malcolm X?
Is there a need to refute the fact that Pam is a bigot?
February 8th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
And I’m still waiting. Geller has documentary evidence for her accusations. What have you lot got?
February 8th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Keith is smart. Zionists have been citing the mufti for years. What of the Catholics and protestnats who aided it? What of the pope who stood silent while people were slaughtered?
February 8th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Geller is one of those Jews who would call her own Rabbi an anti-Semite.
Elpus, if you think what she has is evidence then you are further down the rabbit hole than her, at least she knows she’s making this s*** up, but fools like you believe her.
February 8th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
M’ Lord
Documentary evidence that the Nazi’s were infact secret Jihadists pining for the sweet Aryan maidens of paradise? Boy I am glad in sixty odd years of actual scholarship we had Pam Geller to expose the truth.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Look buddy. This is your guys’ theory: so somehow after the Holocaust, after historians/scientists/philosophers/geologists/the German government/etc. dug through everything and anything, some unindicted co-conspirator ex-wife of a guy who both tried to swindle people out of their money now-turned-blogger somehow digs up this refuted claim that Muslim’s caused the Holocaust and says that she has “documented” evidence that Muslim’s had a hand in the holocaust. Wow. You guys are delusional.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Elpus:I’m waiting for a well-argued refutation of Geller’s claims. I don’t see one. Is one coming up, or is name-calling all you can do?
Lol! Its only a matter of time before P Geller is paraded as an Islamic scholar by the likes of Lord (H)ElpUs. It is a funny world we live in!
February 8th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Kafir Barbie:She would kick the hell out of those muzzie asses !
She needs to get her foot out of her mouth first!
February 8th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Lord Elpus, I will echo the same comments that Ustadh made: how can anyone with a legit mind even comprehend her views? Just think about it…
February 8th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
@ Kafir Harby
By reading your comments and going to your Nazi Web page, I can see that you are an Idiot, a Pig, and you are very Evil. But since you are a ZioNazi Fool who supports Geller’s Garbage I guess I shouldn’t be surprised of how much of a loser you are you sick pig. My comments may be harsh but that is the truth about you.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Bonkers absolute Bonkers > The Genetic Master Race embraced Islam Shock .
Is she allowed to drive ? vote? own a gun ? buy her own plastic surgery?
Let out on her own ?
February 8th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
What?! i thought they were all holocaust deniers now they are holocaust perpetrators? Get your story straight atlas fuggly.
Only an uneducated twit would regard that semi-literate hag’s rantings as evidence of scholarship. She is a disgrace to Jews (who tend to produce great scholars a la Avi shlaim Bernard Lewis etc)
February 8th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Hi guys I would like to give you my take on the insane hatefilled nonsense Geller has been posting on her website concerning the muslim role in WW11.
Geller seems to be claiming that muslims were responsible for the holocaust as much as the nazis and to backup this argument she mentions the role of the mufti of Jerusalem [Amin al-Husayni] and the so called the Handschar division which was made up of bosnian muslim recruits.
However she she fails to mention the vast numbers of muslim troops who fought on the allied side against the axis powers. Approximately 2.5 million men volunteered to join the british Indian army [India was then part of the British empire] about a third of these volunteers were muslim. I am well aware of this because my late uncle who died a few years ago served in the british Indian army. The brish Indian army fought mainly against Japan which was an ally of nazi germany. Then there were also the so called Free french forces who were mostly recruited from the french empire and were mostly muslim. These african and Arab muslim soldiers fought against the nazis in Europe. Well over a million muslim troops fought on the Allied side against the Axis powers. By comparison the number of muslim volunteers on the German side were approximately ten to 12 thousand soldiers. If Geller wants to know who really helped the nazis she should look closer to home. Major US corporations [such as Ford IBM etc were happily doing business with Nazi Germany right upto the outbreak of hostilities between the US and Germany even though Germany had been at war with the Britain for a couple years before and the nature of that regime was already well known. I could also mention the role of US senator Prescott Bush [the grandfather of GW bush] http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar. Prescott Bush worked for “Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s”.
The mufti of Jerusalem was in comparison a minor figure. The Nazis and Hitler were anti semites long before Hitler met the mufti and would still have carried out the holocaust whether or not they had met the mufti. As a non white arab no doubt Hitler would have regarded him as an Untermenschen someone of an inferior race but was willing to meet him hoping that the mufti could stir up trouble for the british in the middle east. This is vicious crude zionist propaganda whose real aim is to discredit the Palestinian cause and portray them as the heirs of nazi germany.
Finally I would also like to point out that Israel has no qualms about allying with nazis as long as they are pro Israel. In 1976 Israel invited the SA PM, Vorster - a former Nazi sympathiser and a commander of the fascist Ossewabrandwag that sided with Hitler - to make a state visit. This man John Vorster PM of apartheid South Africa was interned during WW11 by the british because he was a Nazi sympathiser!! Currently one of the most pro Israel figures in Britain today is Nick Griffin leader of the Neo fascist and racist BNP who reportedly once called the holocaust the holohoax.
February 8th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
@ teabaggite:
dint forget Albert Einstein (right?)
February 8th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Lord elpus:
plz tell me what evidence geller has that no oter historian far and wide doesn’t, and how she, nothing but a blogger and no major historian, couldve possibly obtained such evidence. She must be using such a prestigious method known as forgery.
February 8th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
My grandfather fought against the Axis powers during the Battle of Kohima, and this botox queen has the nerve to accuse Muslims of complicity with Nazis? If my grandfather was alive … Someone should tell her how Tatar Muslims in Poland suffered with her Catholic brethren when the Germans and the Soviets both invaded Poland, but it won’t matter to her.
February 8th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
wow. just wow.
I assume she is discussing the Handschar division, which in all reality was recruited to fight partisans in the Balkans as a way of exploiting the ethno/religious rivarly in the Balkans…in addition to the Muslims, there was a number of Christans as well, due to the fact it was hard to recruit a large enough number of Muslims to fulfill the unit’s requirements.
Anyway, she glosses over the Anglo/Iraq portion of WW 2, when the pro-nazi Rashid Ali had a little coup to take power from the formerly Pro-British regime, she can rewrites and romanticizes about the Palestine Unit, that fought in that campaign….hmm seems she forgot about the Jordanian Arab Legion that also fought on the British side against Rashid Ali’s forces. The make up of the Palestine division did not necessarly mean it was a “Jewish” force per say…
it was a British unit, that was stationed in a British Mandate, much along the lines of an American unit being stationed at say a base in Germany, or the Middle East, it was inherently a British Unit, which was made up of the First Cav Division a force sent to garrison Palestine in 1940. Along with the 4th Cav, and elements of the Essex Regiment it made up what was known as the Habbaniya Force, I am sure there maybe have been a few Jewish Britons scattered amongst the various BRITISH units, but it was not solely a “jewish” unit. There were also Gurkha and Sikh units fighting on the British side as well, in defense of the positions in Iraq.
Now, if Mr. Mufti was instrumental in the final solution, why wasn’t he present at the Wannasee conference?
Yes, al-Husayni was anti-semetic, and his role besides drumming up support for the various non-combat effective Muslim units (of which mutined and killed a few of their german cadre), was to be the go to guy, if Rommel managed to break through to Egypt and beyond in the Middle East, his role would have been to formulate and make some sort of headway in regards to the jewish question in the Middle East, Basically somewhat like a Governor-General position that was used in Occupied Poland, but as far as some fat cat big guy in the Himmler/Eichman/Hedryich trio, that would be a big negative.
At that point in the Reich, the Nazis didn’t need a little push from anyone to go through with their horrible plans.
As I asked before, if al-Husayni was so instrumental, why was neither him, or any representive of his at the Wannasee conference, where the Final Solution was decided?
I guess world war 2, really isnt Miss Pam’s thing.
February 8th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Oh and she says al-Husayni was also responsible for the “the Arab Legion that fought the American invasion in Africa”
Umm. another no. Those would have been Vichy French troops with some native troops with them,possibly Phalange Africaine under the Vichy France banner, I am not 100 percent sure of the total make up of the defense forces during Operation Torch, but I know al-Husayni had nothing to do with it. The “Arab legion” she mentions, I believe she is speaking of the Free Arab Legion, or Sonderverband 287 which was put together by the same people responsible for the Brandenburg Division (more or less was the Wehrmachts version of the Special Forces) and the Sondervband 288,(german language experts, and trainers) which, Nope, al-Husayni had nothing to do with that one either.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:29 am
I’m sick and tired of these racist pigs who try to blame the Holocaust on Muslims (relying on ONE person really), ignoring the legions of Muslim soldiers who fought against the Nazis and did great deeds like helping to liberate France, only to have their legacy ignored by racist Europeans. My grandfather was among those who fought the Nazis, and I will not let Geller and her like-minded pigs dishonor his memory or that of the hundreds of thousands of brave Muslim men who fought in the armies of countries that had colonized their lands - fighting under flags that weren’t their own - in the hope that it would bring their families freedom.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Brtistani
Thankyou for that as I recently lost my Grandfather who served with distinction in the British Indian Volunteer army along with nearly a MILLION muslim men. He served in the Italian campaign, a campaign I remind people would not have won without the Indian division. My Grandfather also lost his brother in the jungles of Burma to the Japanese.
I am truly sickened by this ghastly historical revisionism. If Ms Geller and fellow bottom feeders have such a love of revisionist history, I wonder how they would react to revisionism that applies to the holocaust ( equally as odeous).
February 9th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Oh and additionally we had a far more popular and widespread Nazi sympathiser movement in good ol’ blighty. Namely the British Union of Fascists led by the aristocrat Sir Oswald Moseley, which had widespread support among the British aristocracy and amongst the middle classes. Far greater sway comparably than Al- Husayni.I dont suppose that Ms Geller is gpoing to stigmatise British society.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Lord Elpus,
Do you really want to go down this road? Pamela Geller is now literally a Holocaust revisionist and your argument that no one has yet refuted her “evidence” is an old page from the IHR book.
Lord help you indeed.
February 9th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
My husband, as a German, is outraged that Geller is giving his people so little credit.
I’m so sorry, I’ve been through this discussion in so many places (including in emails WITH the loon Pammycakes herself) and I’m wondering exactly when we can all just lose it laughing?
Actually, I’ll cut the video if y’all want to send in short clips of yourselves just laughing hysterically at this (I would, of course, place the Pammycakes statements at the intro.). Get back to me on this one, because I think a video of real people laughing their asses off at her BS would probably be the one thing that would wound her.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
yep, I am def going to have to label Ol’ Geller as a revisionist, not just of the Holocaust, but of World War 2.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:58 am
Lord, don’t hold your breath. No one’s going to bother giving this a serious refutation, nor the lovely bit you have linked in your name. Get back to us when you are actually titled.
February 10th, 2010 at 5:15 am
The more I think about it’s obvious this person is ill to come up with such bizzare ideas . Cannot she afford health care in the states?
All you folks in the states write to your congress person to vote for Obama’s health care plans . Pammy needs your help.
Write today
February 10th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Folks, let’s recognize what’s going on here. Pamela Geller’s hate site has always been a trash heap of anti-Muslim and anti-Arab bigotry. By claiming the Nazi’s were not responsible for the Holocaust, she is trying to mainstrea fascist and neo-fascist Euopean groups like EDL and Vlaams Belang.
February 10th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Let me get this straight. When some jihadi tries to blow up a plane with an explosive device hidden in his pantaloons, it’s
“Don’t equate this guy with the whole religion!”
But when it’s a question of moslem soldiers who happened to be in the pay of the British, it’s
“Look at what good guys the moslems are!”
You can’t have it both ways. The fact is the jihadi pantalooners are following the dictates of their religion, whereas the loyal soldiers of the Indian Army were in fact ignoring the teachings of the quran.
Get an education!
February 10th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
To Lord Elpus:
“Ridicule is the only weapon that can be used against unintelligible propositions.”
–Thomas Jefferson to Francis A. van der Kemp, July 30, 1816
February 10th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
That’s exactly right Robert4.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Correction to Dale’s comments as expressed in number 21 commentary:
Dear Dale,
Being a student of history all of my life,I wish to make the following historically correct statements:
(1) There is in history one single phalanx or phalanxes named “The Arab Legion”. And it was formed in the early 1920s by a British General named John Glubb in Trans-Jordan(present day The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan).
(2) The vast majority of soldiers of “The Arab Legion” were made of fierce Arab Bedouins from Trans-Jordan since it was then a British colony.
(3) During the Second World War,North Africa was a battle ground area between British troops led by British General named Montgomry and German troops led by German General named Rummel. Because the German General gave the British General hard time,he was called “The Desert Fox”. In order to defeat Rummel and his German troops,General Montgomry needed help. The help came from Trans-Jordan’s “Arab Legion”.
(4) Jordan’s “Arab Legion” gave the needed backing that the British troops needed through which they finally defeated the German troops in the famous battle of “el-Alamain”. The “Arab Legion” of Jordan backed the British troops in Africa,which was under the indirect command of General Dwight Eisenhower who was the Commanding General of all Allied Forces in the Second World War. In other word,the Five-Star British General,Montgomry,was reporting to the Five-Star American General,Dwight Eisenhower,who,in the 1950s,was elected twice to the Presidency of the United States of America-a fascinating American General and President.
(5) Now adays,”The Arab Legion” is called simply “The Jordanian Army”,controlled by Jordanian Generals. No more British Generals in the “Jordanian Army”.
(6) After General John Glubb,the founder of “The Arab Legion” was dismissed by the late King Hussein of Jordan,in 1956-1957,he returned to England and wrote the following book:
A Soldier With The Arab
By
John Glubb
In his book,Glubb described how he was hired by Prince/King Abdullah,The First,in early 1920s to form “The Arab Legion” and how he,with his fluent Arabic,got along with the fierce Bedouin Arabs of Jordan and how at the end he was resented by the more educated young officers,all of them were enlisted by him and some of them were trained at a some military academy in England. It is a fascinating account of his experience as the founder and Chief of Staff of the crack “Arab Legion” of Jordan. Although the book is by now out of print,I highly recommend reading it,if you can find it in your local library. It was a best seller when it was published in the 1950s.
Dale,
as you may see that Pam Geller has no idea what she is talking about when she falsly claimed that [el-Husayni was also responsible for the "Arab Legion that fought the American invasion in Africa"].
It was really beneath my personal dignity to address my above correctional comments directly to Pam Geller.That is why I have made a point in addressing them only to you,since you have been the one who has challenged her falsified claim.
February 11th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
Garo:
I think we actually agree, I put “Arab Legion” in quotes when discussing her usage of the term, due to her incorrectness, but wished to utilize her exact speech,(even though it pained me to have her reference the Arab Legion as a generic term, and pained me worse that one would possibly confuse that noble unit with pro-nazi forces) in addition to your comments, there was a detatchment of the Jordanian Arab Legion attatched to the British forces in the Anglo/Iraqi battles, I believe it was a Mechanized unit that joined the fray against the Pro-nazi forces in Iraq.
But otherwise, great input:)