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Egypt ‘necrophilia law’? Hooey, utter hooey.

The new myth is that Islam somehow promotes…*drum roll*…necrophilia!

While you can likely find a fatwa for everything, when the recent story claiming that the “Egyptian parliament was considering passing a law that would allow husbands to have sex with their wives after death” went viral, the BS meter shot up pretty high for us.

But not for many mainstream media outlets who ran with the story without fact checking, thereby reinforcing Islamophobic myths and anti-Islam talking points.

Despite the ardent desire on behalf of Islamophobes such as Robert Spencer (he saw it as evidence of Sharia’ takeover) for the story to be true it was revealed pretty quickly that it was a hoax.

Spencer still has not updated the story to point out that it was a hoax. Now a lot of the haters have egg on their faces, this is not the first or the last time that such lies will be promoted in the media.(h/t:ZH)

Egypt ‘necrophilia law’? Hooey, utter hooey.

(Christian Science Monitor)

Today, Egypt‘s state-owned Al Ahram newspaper published an opinion piece by Amr Abdul Samea, a past stalwart supporter of the deposed Hosni Mubarak, that contained a bombshell: Egypt’s parliament is considering passing a law that would allow husbands to have sex with their wives after death.

It was soon mentioned in an English language version of Al-Arabiya and immediately started zipping around social-networking sites. By this afternoon it had set news sites and the rest of the Internet on fire. It has every thing: The yuck factor, “those creepy Muslims” factor, the lulz factor for those with a sick sense of humor. The non-fact-checked Daily Mail picked it up and reported it as fact. Then Andrew Sullivan, who has a highly influential blog but is frequently lax about fact-checking, gave it a boost with an uncritical take. TheHuffington Post went there, too.

There’s of course one problem: The chances of any such piece of legislation being considered by the Egyptian parliament for a vote is zero. And the chance of it ever passing is less than that. In fact, color me highly skeptical that anyone is even trying to advance a piece of legislation like this through Egypt’s parliament. I’m willing to be proven wrong. It’s possible that there’s one or two lawmakers completely out of step with the rest of parliament. Maybe.

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But extreme, not to mention inflammatory claims, need at minimum some evidence (and I’ve read my share of utter nonsense in Al Ahram over the years). The evidence right now? Zero.

There was a Moroccan cleric a few years back who apparently did issue a religious ruling saying that husbands remained married to their wives in the first six hours after death and, so, well, you know. But that guy is far, far out on the nutty fringe. How fringe? He also ruled that pregnant women can drink alcohol. Remember, alcohol is considered haram, forbidden, by the vast majority of the world’s Muslim scholars. Putting an unborn child at risk to get drunk? No, that’s just not what they do. Whatever the mainstream’s unpalatable beliefs (there are plenty from my perspective) this isn’t one of them.

It’s important to remember that the structure of the Muslim clergy is, by and large, like that of a number of Protestant Christian sects. Anyone can put out a shingle and declare themselves a preacher. The ones to pay attention to are the ones with large followings, or attachment to major institutions of Islamic learning. The preacher in Morocco is like the preacher in Florida who spent so much time and energy publicizing the burning of Qurans.

Stories like this are a reminder of the downside of the Internet. It makes fact-checking and monitoring easier. But the proliferation of aggregation sites, newsy blog sites, and the general erosion of editorial standards (and on-the-ground reporters to do the heavy lifting) also spreads silliness faster than it ever could before.

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  • rasti

    why is it that everytym some one is doing research in the internet about something in islam(especially the controversial topics),..answers that paint islam in the negative manner always comes first..someone out there is very busy creating enemies for islam

  • Ilisha

    @Sumaya

    Thank your for checking with them. I hope they reply to you.

  • http://thepenofawanderingstranger.com/personal/ Jack Cope

    Yes Ralph, please back up your comments. And you are talking about Egyptians who, in case you didn’t notice, are a) not all Muslims and weren’t Muslims during that time period you quote and b) are not every single Muslim in the world. This story *is* BS, apart from anything no one has even been able to back up that Islam ‘supports necrophilia’.

    On your point b, the following;

    - what ‘perverse’ stuff do Muslims do again?

    - what of aforementioned stuff stems from Islam and what of it stems from culture?

    - the Grand Mufi and Hitler were hardly friends, I think they met a grand total of once and I am quite sure they were not overly impressed with each other. Their alliance of convenience is hardly representative of all Muslims either since the Grand Mufti was a nobody. People of all colours and creeds allied with the Nazis at one point or another, shall we do the list?

    Your post really doesn’t have substance, sorry. The sloppiness of my above post is testament to how little effort I can be bothered putting into answering you.

  • Sir David Illuminati membership number 16.69

    Ralph
    You need help …..soon really soon before they come and take you too the Pam Geller soft wall paper ward .

  • khushboo

    Ralph adumbo, you can’t even prove the trash you’re spewing! Freakin LIAR!

  • Ralph Adamo

    Wrong, Loonwatch. The story is NOT hooey. The Christian Science Monitor failed to do any fact checking. And nobody in the Egyptian government has denied that such a Farewel Intercourse Law is not consideration.

    Bottom line: The story still stands!

    Furthermore, Necrophilia has LONG been a part of the Egyptian “culture,” and Egyptians were struggling among themselves with this perverse desire for CENTURIES. For example, Herodotus wrote in “The Histories” (dating back to 450s to the 420s BC) that to discourage intercourse with a corpse, Egyptians left deceased beautiful women to decay for three or four days.

    Now, some uninformed dummies may attempt to argue that Herodutus essentally “made stuff up,” and on that basis, may try to discredit this observation of this long-standing perverse behavior among Egyptians. Here’s my counter to that feeble argument, with the citation:

    “Herodotus visted Egypt around 450 B.C. and it has been suggested by SOME that his observations [regarding Egyptians and Necrophilia] amount to nothing more than a Greek caught in a cultural rivalry trying to portray Egyptians in a bad light (Tridon, Crobez, Vidaihet, Paugain, & Boissenin, 1994). NONETHELESS, OBSERVATIONS MADE BY OTHERS AT A LATER DATE mention that women embalmers were trained to deal exclusively with female bodies, THUS SUGGESTING THAT HE [HERODOTUS] MADE REALISTIC OBSERVATIONS.” Psychology and Criminal Justice, Janos Buros et al., June 1998 [Emphasis added].

    Second bottom line: Muslims are even more perverse than Nazis, if that’s possible. Small wonder that Hitler and the Grand Mufti were such close friends. Perverts of a feather, flock together.

  • Sumaya

    @Llisha,

    I wrote to the email address provided by Al-Ahram’s English website inquiring about the story but have yet to receive a response from them. It’s curious that neither the Arabic or English versions contain a link to the same.

    There is also no mention of the steps taken against this purported law on the website of National Council of Women

    Sumaya

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  • khushboo

    @ Zak

    Curtsies

  • DrM

    Reason #233523256 why western state media(right and left) and it’s followers can’t be trusted.

  • Ilisha

    @ Zakariya Ali Sher

    Yesterday I checked both the Arabic and English language versions shortly after I saw this story. Nothing.

    Why were there no links in the articles about this alleged story? Then we could see a broken link if the original was deleted. Unless someone finds the original story, whether published or cached, I have no reason to believe Al Ahram published it.

    It interests me how things go viral with so little scrutiny. If someone finds the Al Ahram link, please post here.

  • Zakariya Ali Sher

    @ Ilisha: I’m not sure whether the story was published in al-Ahram’s English or Arabic sites, or both, or if it was later retracted. But then I haven’t even bothered to look yet because the story was crazy from the beginning.

    Some great comments here BTW. But Khushboo took the cake. Necrophiliac Muslim vampires! LOL. Sounds like someone has been LARPing. But I always figured we were more like the Assamites than the Giovanni. :D

  • Ilisha

    Can anyone find a link to the original article in Al Ahram? I was surprised this would be published there, and have had a hard time finding it. I found it here:

    http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/04/25/210198.html

    But there’s no link back to an original story in Al Ahram, which is a very old and respected newspaper. I would like to see the original article if anyone has the link.

  • relief

    Mrislam – I was not commenting on the truth or untruth of the original story. I was just pointing out that this refutation contained no supporting proof. It’s impossible to talk about anything in a meaningful way if assertions and opinion are treated as fact.

  • Sir David ( Illuminati membership number 16.69

    Kushboo
    What makes you think they didnt use him/her as the source?
    After all she/he talks bollocks all the time . ;-)

    It always amazes me how much rubbish gets printed in the press . Stories like Asylum Seekers ate my donkey , Female IRA Arms Smugglers at risk from Static electric shocks caused by Nylon Tights and man marries goat.
    Sometimes its obvious who is behind such rubbish sometimes its not so clear .

  • MrIslamAnswersBack

    @ Relief, TimothyH, VRM There was no proof in the 1st place that any such law was introduced.But there was ample proof that the original allegation is untrue from Egyptians themselves. The Huffington Post updated their article saying :Update: Several Egyptian sources are claiming via Twitter that the story below is false. It has been suggested by some that a rumour may have been placed by sources loyal to former dictator Hosni Mubarak.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/04/26/farewell-intercourse-law-egypt-parliament-dead-wife_n_1455241.html

    Now The daily mail has even updated their article saying :Egypt’s ‘plans for farewell intercourse law so husbands can have sex with DEAD wives’ branded a ‘complete nonsense’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2135434/Egypts-plans-farewell-intercourse-law-husbands-sex-DEAD-wives-branded-complete-nonsense.html#ixzz1tLWiiaG4
    Citing “sources inside the Egyptian Embassy in London,“ the Mail reported Friday the claims were ”completely false,“ ”forbidden in Islam“ and that those interviewed ”could never imagine it happening.” While not an official rebuttal, an embassy source told the site no such proposal had reached parliament, though acknowledged “it could be the work of an extremist politician.”

    citing an Egyptian political activist who said “There is no law and no draft”:

    He also explained that Egyptian journalist Sarah Carr has investigated the matter, and has said that what is being called the “farewell intercourse law” originated with a talk given by an Egyptian media personality, and has no bases in the discussions of actual MPs, at least in the public sphere.

    Is that enough proof for you? I know some of you anti-islamist wish it was true, but sorry its NOT TRUE.

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