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From Moses to Moses: Traversing two Maimonides Quotes on Muslims


A monument in Cordoba, Spain, Maimonides’ birthplace, honoring its famous resident.

March 30 marks the birthday of Moses Maimonides. As such, it seemed to be a good time to discuss two of his quotes that have been used in discussions of Islam and Islamophobia in part due to the range of views that seem to be expressed in them by the same author.

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By JustStoppingBy

Recently, Robert Spencer tried to make a distinction between Allah and God, arguing that “even though they may share a name, any examination of the particulars of Christian and Islamic theology reveals that the deities in question are quite different in character.”

Note that Spencer does not say that Christians and Muslims have “different views of the same deity” but discusses “the deities in question.” In doing this, he invites the reader to reach the conclusion that the “Muslim Allah” is not the same as the “Christian God.” Danios has already provided a thorough explanation on the use of the term Allah by Jews and Christians in pre-Islamic times. As Danios points out, a common Islamophobic response is to claim that Muslims appropriated the term Allah while referring to a different entity, perhaps a moon god, but not to the god that Jews and Christians worship.

To further create a distinction between Allah and the Christian God, Spencer has asked whether the hajj is an act of apostasy based on his claims that the rites involved in the hajj are of Hindu origin. Of course, it is widely accepted that polytheists made pilgrimages to Mecca and that the Ka’bah was a pagan shrine that contained idols before the advent of Islam, including a belief that pre-Islamic pilgrims to Mecca, “[w]ith all their polytheism and idolatry, they too used to circle the Ka’bah and kiss the Black Stone.” So, even if Spencer were right, that would not seem to be a particularly Earth-shattering revelation.

Since many who propound this “deities” theory won’t listen to Danios perhaps they will listen to some other views. We can start by moving a little away from the Christian-Muslim deity distinction that Spencer wants to draw and referring to a statement by perhaps the most renowned post-Biblical Jewish scholar, Rabbi Moses Maimonides (Rambam). In Responsa #448, Maimonides writes as follows (ellipses in Wikipedia, bolding added; alternate translation also available):

The Ishmaelites are not at all idolaters; [idolatry] has long been severed from their mouths and hearts; and they attribute to God a proper unity, a unity concerning which there is no doubt. And because they lie about us, and falsely attribute to us the statement that God has a son, is no reason for us to lie about them and say that they are idolaters … And should anyone say that the house that they honor [the Kaaba] is a house of idolatry and an idol is hidden within it, which their ancestors used to worship,then what of it? The hearts of those who bow down toward it today are [directed] only toward Heaven … [Regarding] the Ishmaelites today – idolatry has been severed from the mouths of all of them [including] women and children. Their error and foolishness is in other things which cannot be put into writing because of the renegades and wicked among Israel [i.e., apostates]. But as regards the unity of God they have no error at all.

Maimonides’ life covered various phases of Muslim-Jewish relations. Maimonides was born in Córdoba in 1135, at the tail end of the longest potential extent of the “Golden Age” of Spanish Jewry, which saw the blossoming of Jewish culture and the attainment by individual Jews of high positions in commercial and public life. As a result of the Arab political dominance, Maimonides knew Arabic, read many texts in Arabic, and composed many of his most famous works in Arabic and referred to God as Allah in his Arabic writing.

In 1148, Córdoba was conquered by the Almohads, an Berber-Muslim dynasty that revoked the dhimmi status of Jews. There is, no doubt, much debate about the quality of the life of a dhimmi, but scholars have noted that “in any historical case, these relatively abstract and general provisions of the dhimma could and did materialize as either a tolerant and even liberating arrangement, or at the other extreme, a culturally repressive policy within which religious freedom is a hollow formality.” (María Rosa Monocal, The Ornament of the World: How Muslims, Jews and Christians Created a Culture of Tolerance in Medieval Spain,” p. 73. Garibaldi reviews the book here.) Life for Jews under the Almohads went from the previous tolerant and liberating arrangement to the other extreme, with the result that “[m]any Jews were forced to convert, but due to suspicion by the authorities of fake conversions, the new converts had to wear identifying clothing that set them apart and made them available to public scrutiny with many forced to convert or go into exile.” The point of this is not to dwell on history, but to put Maimonides’ responsa into context. It was written not by someone who had experienced only positive relations between Muslims and Jews, but who had also witnessed among the harshest of relations. And one should note that after fleeing Córdoba, Maimonides eventually again found himself in a place where he could establish good relations with Muslim authorities, becoming court physician to Saladin.

So, what does Maimonides have to say about how Muslims view God? Returning to the quote, we see that Maimonides says that “[idolatry] has long been severed from their mouths and hearts.” This, is in fact the same story told in Islam’s view of its own history: before Muhammad, the Ishmaelites (as Maimonides refers to them) in and around Mecca were idolaters. But, since the advent of Islam, “they attribute to God a proper unity.” The Islamic term for a “proper unity” is tawhid, which, in essence, is not just a superficial form of “unity” but a “proper unity” that has an influence on Islamic philosophy and jurisprudence. It is also possible that Maimonides was even distinguishing between the “proper” Jewish and Muslim view of God’s unity and what he would consider the “improper” Christian view of a trinitarian unity. Nowhere does Maimonides even suggest that Muslims are worshiping some different deity or that they do not share the Jewish view of God’s character.

Maimonides further argues that “should anyone say … [the Kaba’a] is a house of idolatry and an idol is hidden within it, which their ancestors used to worship, then what of it? The hearts of those who bow down toward it today are [directed] only toward Heaven.” This can be read as a pre-rebuttal to arguments made by Robert Spencer about the Kaba’a and the hajj based on views, true or not, about their pre-Islamic origins. As Maimonides points out, if Muslims view Allah as the same god Jews view in Heaven and direct their prayers accordingly, pre-Islamic history does not affect their monotheism. Say what you want about any possible idol remnant in the Ka’bah or the etymology of the term Allah, it is clear that the “hearts of [Muslims] today are only toward Heaven.”

Now, why is Maimonides such an interesting person to quote from when countering Spencer’s Islamophobic rhetoric? For one thing, Spencer’s polemical partner Pamela Geller has also quoted from Maimonides, believing that it helps the position that she and Spencer take in general and in her fights about her ads about a choice “between the civilized man and the savage” in particular. Here is a quote she uses, from Maimonides’ Epistle to Yemen:

Let Ye understand, my brothers, the Holy One Blessed HE through the trap created by our iniquities cast us amongst this nation, the people of Ishmael [Muslims] whose oppressiveness is firmly upon us and they connive to do us wrong and despicably downgrade us as the Almighty decreed against us (Deuteronomy 32:31, “Your enemies shall judge you”).

There never came against Israel a more antagonistic nation. They oppress us with the most oppressive measures to lessen our number, reduce us, and make us as despicable as they themselves are [Psalms 120:5].

Geller, misleadingly introduces this quote by saying that Maimonides “said this of Islam.” She further introduces the purely religious term Muslims in brackets where Maimonides referred to the “people of Ishmael,” a term that could have ethnic, political, and/or religious connotations.

On the religious aspect, while Maimonides did not accept Islam, it is clear from the earlier quote that he fully accepted that Muslims, or Ishmaelites, were monotheists whose hearts are directed only toward heaven in prayer. Instead, the conflict he describes is a political one, in particular with the Yemeni Shi’a of the time. Ultimately, “Maimonides interceded with Saladin in Egypt, and shortly thereafter the persecution came to an end.”

There are a few additional points worth noting in this quote from Maimonides. First, the reference to “the people of Ishmael” may sound like a form of generalization today, but no more so than the positive references to Ishmaelites in the first Maimonides quote or his reference to Jews as Israel in the second.

Second, unlike Geller, Maimonides does not attempt to create a picture in which one side is civilized and the other savage. Indeed, Maimonides describes Israel’s exile as a “trap created by our iniquities.” Traditionally, this referred to the “baseless hatred,” or the religious and political disputes, mistakes, violence, and venom that existed at the time of the destruction of the Second Temple and the onset of the Exile. Thus, Maimonides’ approach was not to turn a political dispute or suffering persecution into a basis for misrepresenting the religious views of others. Nor did he argue that those of his religion were pure and those of another religion were not; rather, he pointed out sinful behavior in both. In Maimonides’ view, monotheism was a good quality, and, from the first quote, we see that he was able to acknowledge what he saw as the good in his political opponents rather than feeling the need to suppress any of those qualities or actions as if his entire position would fall apart if his political adversaries had any good side. In addition, when Maimonides corresponded with a community of Jews who were being persecuted by a Muslim majority, he made a point of noting that even the Jews who then felt persecuted should not ignore their group’s own history of hatred and violence, including political mistakes that were part of the reason for their exile.

While there are aspects to the two quotes from Maimonides that one can agree or disagree with, they do reflect an overall attitude that contrasts sharply with those of Spencer and Geller.

While Maimonides had political differences with various Muslim groups, he did not seek to mischaracterize their religion or their religious beliefs. For there can be no true peace with the Other without recognition of the truth of their beliefs and behavior and honest dialogue based on those truths, a sharp contrast to the insidious Spencer/Geller policy of no peace, no truthful recognition, and no honest dialogue. Compare Maimonides’ recognition of Islam’s positive monotheistic quality, even when he disagreed politically with Muslims, with Spencer, who has argued that “the only good Muslim is a bad Muslim,” meaning that in his view, the only morally good Muslim is one who is not an Islamically good Muslim.

In terms of lessons for today, it may be helpful to see how Maimonides separated the political battles he faced from the opportunities to engage in religious prejudice against the beliefs of the Other. This did not mean that he refrained from political activity, as seen by his appeal to Saladin. But, neither did he refrain from standing up for the truth about another group’s religious beliefs. In viewing how Maimonides conducted these two fights, perhaps it can be said that the lesson is that we should fight our political battles as if there were no religious prejudice, and we should fight religious prejudice as if there were no political battles.

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  • el turco

    Coming very late to this, but one important point. Any verse from the Tanakh which refers to G-d must be understood in light of the specific Hebrew term used. Ignoring this context is why so many outside of the Rabbinic tradition read henotheism into the text.

  • Truthteller

    I as well!

  • Mehdi

    Hi there, not sure you heard about this book, seems like an interesting read, it seems like there is a long section dedicated to Maimonides

  • Just_Stopping_By

    We like confusion! 😉

    There is no definitive rule as to who is the most important Jewish scholar of all time, but I wrote the title of this piece as an homage to the epitaph on Maimonides’ grave: “From Moses to Moses, there arose none like Moses.” This suggests that Moses Maimonides was and is viewed so highly as to be compared favorably to the Prophets. Note that Maimonides was never considered a prophet, but was considered to have a level of scholarship that made his contributions similar, if not more important, than those of many prophets.

    As I said above, the term Torah can have multiple meanings. The most limited is the Pentateuch or first five books of the Bible. The “Jewish Bible” has the Pentateuch (Genesis through Deuteronomy), the Prophets, and the Writings, known collectively as the Tanakh. The “Old Testament” really has two versions: the Protestant version has the same books as the Tanakh, but rearranged. (In Luke 24:44, Jesus refers to the Law, the Prophets, and the Psalms. Psalms is the first book in the Writings, so that may have been a way to refer to that section at the time. Also, some argue that Psalms may be related to Zabur.) The Catholic version of the “Old Testament” adds in Jewish texts from between the time of the Tanakh and the first century CE, The Apocrypha, that Jews have not considered as scripture.

    The Torah can again, at its narrowest, refer to the Pentateuch. It can also mean the Tanakh, often then described as the Written Torah. The Talmud is a set of laws and legal discussions, sometimes referred to as the Oral Torah, though that term too sometimes is thought of more broadly to contain all originally non-written tradition that is generally now written down. The Talmud contains many disputes between rabbis, where Rabbi A says that X is kosher and Rabbi B says that X is not kosher, for example. In that sense, it is easy to misunderstand, especially when there is a section with no statement as to which interpretation is favored. Other Jewish texts include midrashim (commentaries, often allegorical, on prior texts) and responsa (responses to or rulings on specific questions), as well as various texts collecting and codifying prior material. The first Maimonides quote I have in the article is a responsa (it should be a responsum per the Latin, but this poor grammatical usage seems to have taken hold) to a question about understanding Islamic practices.

  • Seeker

    Wow ! It gets even more confusing.
    Is Maimonides the most important scholar of all time excluding the Prophets ?
    And since we’re on this topic, what is the difference between the Torah and the Talmud and the others ?
    Also, is the Old Testament actually the Torah and other books ?

  • Just_Stopping_By

    The “Jewish Bible” would be the Tanakh = Torah + Prophets (Nevi’im) + Writings (K’tivim), or, roughly, what is referred to as the “Old Testament.”

    Of course, to make matters more confusing, the term Torah can refer just to the first five books, to the “Jewish Bible,” to the “Jewish Bible” plus the Talmud, or to that plus all Jewish teachings, depending on context!

  • Seeker

    Now I’m confused. Does “post-Jewish Bible” mean the Torah ?

  • Just_Stopping_By

    I was using “post-Biblical” to mean post-Jewish Bible. So, there would certainly be other post-Biblical Jewish scholars. I perhaps could have been clearer, but I meant to distinguish from any Biblical prophets who might also be considered “scholars” in a sense, such as Moses and Solomon. Obviously, they are not primarily thought of as scholars, but that could be part of their role and I just wanted not to have to deal with comparisons to them as scholars.

  • Seeker

    JSB, you say “most renowned post-Biblical Jewish scholar”. What really does ‘post-Biblical’ imply and I suppose a follow-up question would be who holds a similar renown pre-Biblically ?

  • Just_Stopping_By

    Thanks for the compliments. I should be blushing.

    My other topics are hopefully similarly unique (not globally unique, but perhaps in our small world), and hopefully to the Admin’s taste.

    Now, don’t you high school or college kids have some sort of essay you can double purpose? 😉

  • Seeker

    Yay for coffee !

  • Tighe McCandless

    “You want me to do a whole series on medieval Jewry and the Muslim world? I guess I should say thanks for the compliment, but that’s a bit much for me.”

    I’d figured that it probably would be. I presumed you’re very busy and it sounds like you are. I’ve actually seen Cohen’s book mentioned a lot of times before but for some reason I’ve never picked it up for whatever reason; it seems like it’s considered pretty authoritative, at the very least.

    Still, since you bring a unique perspective to this topic, I hope that this isn’t the last we’ve seen for a while of your articles rebutting Geller’s claims. It’s much too fun seeing you tear down her arguments. 🙂

  • Mehdi

    Civilizations are interdependent and have always, Jews and Muslims have SO MUCH IN COMMON, the Israeli-Arab conflict is a political conflict, we should not give up on hoping it gets resolved, but it is not a religious conflict, it’s political.
    A good example of how different civilizations mutually benefited one from another, we should think of Renaissance, this was a time when ideas, science, market goods, and mostly people, traveled constantly and benefited from such exchanges. Jerry Brotton wrote a very good book on the topic
    And I’m repeating to JSB: Great article!!

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  • Just_Stopping_By

    Actually, I don’t think we disagree that much.
    I would view the ayat similar to hearing a preacher today saying, “No one should pray to Zeus or Odin.” We would not think that the preacher is admitting that Zeus or Odin are actual gods, but rather that he or she is saying that some people mistakenly viewed them as divine beings.
    The same could be true of a monotheistic preacher discussing Zeus or Odin when they were actually being widely worshipped: mentioning them is not an admission that they are actual divine beings. Thus, I do not see the Qur’an’s or the Torah’s reference to Ba’al as an admission that either text treats Ba’al as a divine being as opposed to a recognition that others believed that at the time.

  • Just_Stopping_By

    You want me to do a whole series on medieval Jewry and the Muslim world? I guess I should say thanks for the compliment, but that’s a bit much for me.

    If anyone is interested in that topic, I recommend Professor Mark R. Cohen’s Under Crescent and Cross: The Jews in the Middle Ages, which concludes that relations “though not utopic, were less confrontational and violent than those between Christians and Jews in the West.”

    I actually have tentative plans to submit several additional pieces this year (if I find the time to write up my thoughts) and see if the Admin deems them worthy of posting. I figure that I’ve spent plenty of time both praising and critiquing posts here, so I should try to do my part and contribute some material longer than a comment. I also encourage others to do the same. The LW team was very helpful in reviewing and finalizing the two pieces I submitted, and I am also happy to serve as an informal reviewer for content and grammar!

  • Tighe McCandless

    I wish I had something more insightful to add to this discussion other than, “Good job,” but, er, good job! It’s always nice to see Geller get taken down a notch, especially when it uses her own subject matter against her. Maimonides sounds like a pretty fascinating guy in his own right; I don’t really know much about this period (medieval stuff puts me to sleep for the most part, though this isn’t your fault).

    I’m also not sure if you’re taking suggestions, JSB, but I think that a follow-up article (or perhaps even a small series) of the examination of medieval Jewry vis-a-vis the Muslim world sounds like it’d be something worthwhile, or at least I think so. There are a lot of claims that get bandied about that time and while it might be impossible to set the record straight, I wouldn’t imagine that too many people know about that in any great detail either.

  • Ameer

    There is a consensus based on authentic hadiths about the Mahdi arriving in the end times, there’s no dispute there; the dispute is over who this ‘Mahdi’ will be. In Shia Islam he’s the 12 Imam, in Sunni Islam its more open ended as there’s no specified person labelled as the Mahdi.

  • Tanveer Khan

    No, no, no. I will cure this cursed spelling illness of mine.

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  • Seeker

    No no. Don’t let that stop you. We’ll all help with the spell-check.

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