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Lord’s Resistance Army Abducted 217 People In Central Africa, Did You Hear About It?

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Did you know that The Lord’s Resistance Army has abducted 217 people since January in the Central African Republic? 54 children were among those kidnapped by the LRA and it is feared many of them may have been made into soldiers or sex slaves.

Central African Republic was the scene of gruesome inter-communal violence and the successful genocide of its Muslim inhabitants in the Western part of the country.

The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) rebel force has abducted 217 people since January in the Central African Republic (CAR), a campaign group says.

This is nearly double the number of abductions carried out by the LRA in 2015, LRA Crisis Tracker added. The abductees, including 54 children, may have been forced to become soldiers or sex slaves, it said.

The LRA appear to be trying to “replenish” its forces because of military setbacks, the group added. It has been hit by a spate of defections, and arrests since foreign forces began pursuing it in 2011.

The US deployed 100 special forces to support thousands of African troops searching for LRA commanders.

The level of international outcry and reporting here is small when compared to the reaction that Boko Haram’s kidnapping of over 200 young girls elicited.

Is the difference down to the fact that “the West” only gets exercised about such issues when the horrid group perpetrating such actions are doing it in the name of Islam? Why is there less attention paid when a self-described Christian group like the LRA commits similar atrocities?

Indeed, the viciousness and suffering that the LRA has afflicted is on a greater scale than anything we have seen so far from groups such as Boko Haram. LRA Tracker says that the group “is responsible for 100,000 deaths and an equal number of abductions.”

A final note: is anyone else unsettled by the deployment of US special forces in Africa? Our role on the continent is constantly expanding and we just don’t have a good track record of making things better when we intervene. This needs to be watched warily.

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  • Yausari

    As I said there are tons of videos.

    That’s a weak argument. There tons of videos to counter the video you’ve posted.

    Who’s talking about News network? I’m talking about ones like Robert Spencer and other self-proclaim scholars of Islam.

    42 million figures: researched by think-progress
    http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/08/26/304306/islamophobia-network/

    The people who profited from it:
    http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/who-are-millionaires-behind-islamophobic-industry-america-1487378765

    Your rants about “BBC, state Germany papers, the New York Times, the Washington Post, politicians in the US ” and the left, are all typical right wing flag. You made an assumption and completly strayed from the subject.

  • The greenmantle

    Its not that I dont believe something thats not true its just like many other bigots you think that just because you have an opinion it must be “the truth”.
    Try reading what I suggested 🙂
    Sir David

  • Yausari

    Oh really? You don’t agree with the title? It doesn’t really say anything about about the poster’s agenda? But just take what you like to hear.
    I’ve seen many videos and articles too. It’s the internet, Genius.

  • MichaelElwood

    KristenJ wrote: “There is no war on Islam. That’s nonsense, that’s propaganda used to stir up Muslims, and doesn’t even make sense.”

    There IS a war on Islam! Secular extremists are explicit about this:

    “I think that we are at war with Islam. And there’s no middle ground in wars. Islam can be defeated in many ways. For starters, you stop the spread of the ideology itself; at present, there are native Westerners converting to Islam, and they’re the most fanatical sometimes. There is infiltration of Islam in the schools and universities of the West. You stop that. You stop the symbol burning and the effigy burning, and you look them in the eye and flex your muscles and you say, ‘This is a warning. We won’t accept this anymore.’ There comes a moment when you crush your enemy.”

    –Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    “We are at war with Islam. It may not serve our immediate foreign policy objectives for our political leaders to openly acknowledge this fact, but it is unambiguously so. . . . ”

    –Sam Harris

    They can’t and won’t win such a war, of course. But that doesn’t mean that such a war is “nonsense”.

  • MichaelElwood

    KristenJ wrote: “Also CAIR complains about Ayaan Hirsi and has tried to silence her speaking at universities, etc. because they said she claims to talk about women’s rights but is really anti-Islam.”

    Hirsi Ali is typical of the many illiberal liberals and secular extremists. She has advocated the same things be done to Muslims that she claims Muslims want to do to her:

    “I think that we are at war with Islam. And there’s no middle ground in wars. Islam can be defeated in many ways. For starters, you stop the spread of the ideology itself; at present, there are native Westerners converting to Islam, and they’re the most fanatical sometimes. There is infiltration of Islam in the schools and universities of the West. You stop that. You stop the symbol burning and the effigy burning, and you look them in the eye and flex your muscles and you say, ‘This is a warning. We won’t accept this anymore.’ There comes a moment when you crush your enemy.”

    –Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Her buddy, Geert Wilders, isn’t exactly a paragon of free speech either:

    “I am fed up with Islam in the Netherlands: let’s put a stop to the influx of Muslim immigrants. I am fed up with the worshipping of Allah and Mohammed in the Netherlands: let’s put a stop to the building of mosques. I am fed up with the Koran in the Netherlands: let’s ban that fascist book.”

    –Geert Wilders

  • MichaelElwood

    KristenJ wrote: “I’m talking about clerics, imams, and those Muslims who preach and go on about spreading Islam to western countries and turning them into Islamic states. There are videos of crowds in England saying the same. There are videos of clerics going on about this in mosques. So when I hear people say we have a war against Islam, which is total BS, they are ignoring all these people in Western countries who want to change our countries. . . . Somebody made a video of clips of such noisy people, but there are lot more.”

    You wanna know what’s BS, Kristen? That video that purports to show Muslims wanting to turn Western countries into Islamic States! As El Cid pointed out, the video is a hatchet job by MEMRI (co-founded by Yigal Carmon, a former Israeli military intelligence officer) meant to deceive impressionable non-Muslims like you. For example, though the video doesn’t mention it, the Imam at the beginning of the video who says Muslims are a ticking time-bomb, is Imam Tareq Yousef al-Masri. And he was making the EXACT OPPOSITE point that this misleading video is trying to make. Below, is a more extensive clip from the same sermon with commentary by Prof. Aisha Musa:

    At around 3:00 he points out how Sunni extremist like the ones in your video try to justify their beliefs and practices: by abrogating and ignoring large parts of the Quran. This criticism of the Sunni practice of abrogating the Quran goes back centuries. As Prof. Daniel W. Brown points out, it goes back to the 9th century debates between Sunnis like Al-Shafi’i and people who are today called Quranists:

    “But this eclectic approach was threatened by the arguments of the ahl al-kalam who took advantage of apparent inconsistencies between the two sources to undermine sunna, arguing that in all such cases the Qur’an must take precedence. Shafi’i, to divert such attacks, rejected both naskh of Qur’an by Sunna and Sunna by Qur’an. After him, as ‘the threat from the Qur’an-only party receded,’ the older, looser attitude towards naskh reasserted itself.”

    –Rethinking Tradition in Modern Islamic Thought (pp. 16-17)

    The video you posted also includes numerous quotes from Yousef al-Khattab aka Joseph Cohen and his group. Cohen is an Israeli agent provocateur and a fraud. . . not a Muslim, and definitely not an Imam.

  • KristenJ

    There are plenty of videos and article. I don’t agree with the title of the video, but I have seen a bunch of the full videos of the clips, but there are many more. No, not an excuse for bigotry, sorry, that doesn’t fly any more. You know, when I talk about atheism or some religion (because I’m no longer religious), I get a lot of disagreement too, or debate, or nasty responses from religious people including Muslims. It’s not a one-sided issue in regards to bigotry. Muslims engage in bigotry, racism, prejudice, intolerance, etc. too. I hear it a lot. There’s a lot of negative talk about Israel and Jews in general. I’m a big believer of free speech, but I’ll note it. I expect the same of others for free speech, but apparently not all want that.

    “Most of you voted for Trump”? Most of who? The primaries aren’t even over yet. I haven’t for voted him and people have voted for other candidates. We don’t have a number of votes that have gone for the Democrats and Republican parties yet because the primaries aren’t over. You’re assuming something that is not “most” yet. I haven’t looked today, but Cruz has moved ahead. Hillary, who is Democrat, is as much as a war mongerer as the Republicans if you listen to things she’s said such as not taking the “nuclear option of the table for Russia and Iran.” She also had voted for the Iraq War, something I did not want to do. Of course during campaigning you’re going to hear a lot of suck-up talk to get votes, but she has not been a mellow, anti-war person. Iran’s rhetoric is belligerent, what with saying Death to America, Death to Israel, Israel will no longer exist in 20 years, and the Ayatollah says it frequently. Then they launch missiles so soon after the nuclear agreement, and that all fuels Republicans, et al, no less Israel. Do you think that rhetoric is a good idea? It certainly doesn’t help.

    I don’t agree with everything the US does. A lot of money is made on weapons and war. I’d rather be trading toasters and new products.

  • KristenJ

    “What I hear is the desperate resolve of a people under duress. People whose hearth and homes have been invaded, demolished. A people whose lives and famliy structure has been rendered, shredded. A people who have decided to fight back unto death, die fighting rather than surrender to an overwhelming force. That is what they are actually saying, the cunning translation notwithstanding.”

    How do you get that out of it? OK, then, you need to see more videos and articles where translations and English are clear. I suppose you should also look at the Muslim Brotherhood’s plans.

    “And should Christian West’s hegemonic ambitions in its War on Islam override Muslim’s desire to be left alone in peace then there are over 125 nukes, and counting, waiting locked and loaded to turn the planet inside out.”

    There is no war on Islam. That’s nonsense, that’s propaganda used to stir up Muslims, and doesn’t even make sense. If we are in Muslim countries, we are there with allies, and only for resources, oil, strategic interests. Saudi Arabia is our ally, so is Jordan, and at varying times Egypt, and so on. Saudi Arabia works with Israel. I don’t even care about the history of Christianity or Islam, I care about the present. If Islam wants to be left alone then it shouldn’t come to our country and to change our secular lives and government. That’s what a bunch of Muslims have been saying, and in Europe outright protesting with signs on the street, and that’s one issue. But the US certainly doesn’t have a war against Islam–the religion. So you can blame Saudi Arabia for buying weapons and ships from us, for bombing Yemen, for supporting terrorists as do other countries such as Qatar, Iran, Lebanon, etc. We helped the Muslims in Bosnia. Back when Russia was invading Afghanistan we helped fight against Russia. Bush and Cheney’s interest was always oil and business, not Islam. The foreign policy is very straightforward in the PNAC document which you can read online.

    “As for your ‘soft war’. You have seen nothing yet. Should all the Muslim Nations unite in Allah’s Name from the Bosphorus/Dardanelles to Suez, Red Sea, Persian Gulf, Arabian Sea to the Straits of Malachi…the West and its cancerous parasitic appendage the illegitimate, apartheid Zionist State of Israel will implode, cannibalize.”
    OK, so now you’re confirming what I said. We don’t have a soft war going on for the purpose of spreading religion, Islam does, particular countries such as KSA and Turkey. You’re sounding threatening. We’re not even doing anything “soft.” What you see is strategic and economic interests in tandem with our allies in the Middle East and Europe. If you’re so concerned about that, then why are Muslims migrating here? Why don’t they stay in Muslim countries that fit their lives better? If you want people out of Muslim countries, then why go to non-Muslim countries and create problems? That’s hypocrisy then. Yes, you did confirm what I was saying. Thanks. There’s nothing more to say.

  • Friend of Bosnia

    Iran was, and is, a Muslim mjority country, it was never a secular majority country. As for Germany, it would need between 400 and 700 years to get a Muslim 2/3 majority. In medieval Spain as well as in Bosnia-Herzegovina it took maybe 200 years until there was a Muslim majority, asn nethre the Arabs nor the Turks converted teh people by force. What was done to the Spanish Muslims is most nasty and unfair and I do not accept any attempts at justififcation here. I don’t want the Bosniaks to suffer the same fate.

  • The greenmantle

    “I am not paid to type in comment sections”

    Well you would say that wouldn’t you .

    “Why have four people questioned why I have made comments here?”

    Because you question their religion or beliefs maybe ? Just a guess I have not asked the others Also and I say this so as not to shock you but there are some bad people out there who tell lies on the internet . Shocking I know but what can one do ? I have complained to the authorities but to no avail .

    “I don’t understand all this questioning or accusations of being a troll or such.”
    Then you need to get out more.

    Why dont you check out the Runnymead Trust definition of Islamaphobia and what Hasbara is .

    Have a nice day

    Sir David.

  • El Cid

    “Somebody made a video of clips of such noisy people,

    This montage, splicing, juxtaposition of clips taken from various speeches, lectures, pep talks and contexts have been sliced and diced, mistranslated, artfully presented to create a false image of Islam and Muslims.

    To you they seem to be “such noisy people”. But to those of us who understand the languages they speak, it is not noise. What I hear is the desperate resolve of a people under duress. People whose hearth and homes have been invaded, demolished. A people whose lives and famliy structure has been rendered, shredded. A people who have decided to fight back unto death, die fighting rather than surrender to an overwhelming force. That is what they are actually saying, the cunning translation notwithstanding.

    “US and western countries’ governments aren’t interested in spreading a religion and our involvement is just for resources and strategic reasons.”

    Not really. Throughout history the Crusading Cross has destroyed whole cultures, countries and continents in Jesus name. This has always been the Christians objective plan, mindset.

    The advancing evangelicals, preachers and priests always protected, flanked and spearheaded by Christian Knights Templars, Sovereign Military Order of Hospitliars et al invaded, plundered murdered all the peaceful people of all the Continents. Defeated only and always by Islam in their face off with Muslims.

    A thousand years ago the Saracen Scimitar Blade cut the Crusading Cross at the knee. As the Taliban Warriors Kalashnikov has done US-Nato 37 countries flying the Christian Cross in the 21st century.

    Currently West’s objective is to devastate, demolish, reduce Muslim Civilization to the stone age, plunder its resources, control its waterways in the interests of hegemony and greater Israel.

    Allah advocates patience. Commands Muslims to make haste slowly. It took Muslims two hundred years to turn back the tide of Christian Soldiers of United Europe. Another two hundred to get them out of the Subcontinent of India. Boko Haram Warriors are still fighting to recover the Caliphate of South Africa destroyed by the British Empire.

    As for your ‘soft war’. You have seen nothing yet. Should all the Muslim Nations unite in Allah’s Name from the Bosphorus/Dardanelles to Suez, Red Sea, Persian Gulf, Arabian Sea to the Straits of Malachi…the West and its cancerous parasitic appendage the illegitimate, apartheid Zionist State of Israel will implode, cannibalize.

    And should Christian West’s hegemonic ambitions in its War on Islam override Muslim’s desire to be left alone in peace then there are over 125 nukes, and counting, waiting locked and loaded to turn the planet inside out.

    Christian Crusaders always come flags and banners flying, thundering on to Muslim lands in Jesus holy name. Followed by your abject surrender. Then you return home broken and defeated. And repeat.

    Is that what you want once again?
    Your Call…!
    .

    [BTW it is NOT just somebody who made up this propaganda video. It is the concoction of a known agency MEMRI, the propaganda wing of Mossad/IDF. Enough said].

  • Yausari

    It was rhetorical question. And no it’s legit since the video exaggerate the scale and the title itself misleads. “Muslims are ticking time bombs waiting to explode”
    You’re just trying to find an excuse and justification for bigotry.
    Speaking of “lot of nutty” perhaps you should take a good look at the republican party.

  • KristenJ

    No, I’m not. I just responded to The greenmantle (Sir David), and I’ve explained several times that I’m simply commenting and discussing. Why are several people questioning why somebody is commenting? It’s a bit ridiculous…either respond to people or don’t. If I had agreed with comments you all probably wouldn’t be questioning me like this! Geesh. I’ve said enough about this. If you want to live in a mutual appreciation bubble, go at it, but you’ll be close-minded and not challenged to think about other things. I don’t have a problem with people disagreeing with me or being wrong about something. Carry on….

  • KristenJ

    I am not paid to type in comment sections. I said exactly how and why I commented here. I don’t know the purpose of your, “If you have sold your soul traditionally…” I haven’t sold my soul or anything along those lines. Why have four people questioned why I have made comments here? I said why. I don’t do that to people, I just respond to the merit of their arguments. I don’t care what their handle is, I don’t care why they are here or there, and I don’t ask people, “How did you arrive to my You Tube video?” nor “What is your goal in commenting on my video,” I just say thank you for commenting or respond to what they say. (I have a bunch of YT videos and I don’t require comments being approved first.) I don’t understand all this questioning or accusations of being a troll or such. I talk a lot. So what?

  • KristenJ

    Why not compare? Please elaborate. Thanks.

  • KristenJ

    You went into topics that I wasn’t addressing. Through population increase and positions in government it can change majorities and/or voting on legislation as well as revolutions and coups. You can’t rule out any of these things because they’ve happened continually throughout history. Germany or any place can change. Constitutions aren’t permanent; amendments change. We’ve seen countries go Islamic that weren’t before and were secular oriented, not operating under Islamic law. So why would Germany or any other country be different? That happened to Iran, for one example. It was secular until 1979 when religion took over, destroyed parts of their culture, and killed many people opposed to Khomeini’s regime. Muslims are reproducing/having more kids than other groups of people.

    An aside: I really don’t like distinguishing Muslims as a group in this way because an opposite would be, say, Christians or Hindus, and there are plenty of atheists, agnostics, and other religions. Hispanic or Latino people are the next group of higher reproducers, and that is not a religion. Muslims I’ve known from India come from a different culture, race, land, environment, customs, language, etc. than someone from Saudi Arabia. Generally speaking, we don’t refer to people as Christian American but rather their ethnic or nationality…Italians, Koreans, Irish Americans or simply leave off the American part. It’s something people comment on and notice.

  • KristenJ

    One can preach what they want, but that doesn’t mean anyone has to like it or be reasonably concerned about such preachers’ goals (especially those stated) and how it will affect others’ lives, our rights, laws, and so on. So it is perfectly reasonable to argue against the preaching, the religion, their goals, and what they’ve done in other countries, and so on. A free and open market place of ideas is discussing it, telling people what you think, countering it, warning people…whatever. We do this for tons of subject matters. People can espouse communist views in the US but people are going to argue against it. Whether the Muslim Brotherhood was elected or not doesn’t really mean anything as far as discussing them and their ideas, tactics, etc. That’s a free marketplace of ideas. Often we hear people trying to silence others such as the OIC who wants the UN to enact universal blasphemy laws, hence censorship on free speech about a very important subject matter. Another example is silencing people who are considered “anti-Islam,” a few being banned from England. Also CAIR complains about Ayaan Hirsi and has tried to silence her speaking at universities, etc. because they said she claims to talk about women’s rights but is really anti-Islam. Well, it can be both. These are not folks who are very free-speech. (That’s an example out of many examples of subject matters. It so happens that some people think religion is too personal and shouldn’t be criticized, which given history is not a very good thing to censor.)

  • KristenJ

    Who is just talking about ISIS? There are plenty of other places, terrorist groups (over 30 of them) spread throughout the Middle East, Africa, and Asia. But also the Yazidis have been heavily targeted and the girls used as sex slaves and sex trading in regards to ISIS.

  • KristenJ

    I don’t appreciate your condescending attitude calling me sweetheart, and you should be pointing out what you think isn’t factual or else you sound like you’re blowing smoke. There’s no point in being vague, is there? Otherwise don’t speak about facts.

  • hestroy

    Well, it’s very simple. All organized religions make stupid fools from people.

  • The greenmantle

    “it’s someone is paid to go around the internet spreading some type of
    propaganda or something to that effect. I’ve never had someone question
    why I posted a comment on a web site”

    Interesting so how much are you paid then ?
    If you have sold your soul traditionally there is only one buyer and his word is not generally held to be good.

    Sir David

  • The greenmantle

    Then why do you compare two terrorist act ? They are both wrong

    Sir David

  • Friend of Bosnia

    I don’t see how they could turn, say, Germany, into an Islamic state unless there was a 2/3 majority of Muslims there AND those Muslims would for most adhere to Wahhabi/Salafist ideology, which they don’t.
    So, while there is a danger that Wahhabis/Salafists (and not even all of them) can do a lot of damage, as they have sadly shown during the past months, there is no such thing as a “green peril”, and it’s most unfair to hold all Muslims collectively guilty and put them under general suspicion, as this will lead to pogroms, as we could see in Bosnia-Herzegovina, Burma, India, Thailand , Sri Lanka, Central African Republic.
    Ot’s alos completely useless to say that if teh Bosniaks had had a parityx of weapons they would have done to the Serbs exactly what teh Serbs did to Bosiaks, that is, commit genocide. “Would have” or “could have” is no good. There is no way of knowing. I mean, we could speculate about how teh Japanese could have won the war in teh Pacific and that if they had had the atom bomb they would have had no compunctions to use it. But they didn’t and it’s idle speculation to go on about that. A total waste of time. Yes, if they had been a little more carefuly about thgeir aims, the Japanese could have won the battle of Midway. And what would they have gained? Another six monts, at best, until the Americans would have defeated them elsewhere. Because they had more than eight times the industrial and manpower of the Japanese, so eventuallly they would have won anyway. So it’s idle speculation what would have been if teh Bosniaks had had the same manpower ands weapons as teh Serbs. For most, their leaders didn’t go on about building up an Islamic state. That Alija Izetbegovic’s “Islamic Declaration” postulates such an Islamic state in BiH is just a Serb anti-Bosniak war propaganda lie.
    Of course the Bosniaks are tired of being thePalestinians of Europe. But no one wants them to be free, because they are Muslims. And I despise not just the Serbs but all their supporters worldwide for that. No matter with what intentions they support teh Serbs.
    On the other hand it is necessary that justice be done because it is the precondition for reconciliation and peace. And of course the Bosniaks must be given the chance to coexist with non-Muslims because if they are isolated they will undoubtedly be radicalized. Locking in the people in the Gaza Strip has achieved just that. And in both cases I believe that’s exactly what their enemies want so they will have a pretext to put them down. In that respect I think the West (which has teh clout to make a difference) Has let down the Bosniaks in teh most miserable way, and I am convinced they did it on purpose. If Bosnia is partitioned teh way the Serb and Croat ultranationalists want to, teh Bosniaks will be left in a Balkan version of the Gaza Strip. They will then foight, and teh Serbs, the Croat and teh West will have a pretext to get rid of them for good. And that is most unfair to a people whose only crime is that they exist, and that they want to continue existing. If that is what the Europeans and teh Americans want, I don’t see what is so good about the democracy and freedom they carry on their shield. At leats Putin and the IS are more honest about it, they openly statge that they stand for tyranny and oppression. That’s why so many people suck up to them. But I don’t. That they are more candid about their intention doesn’t make them any better, and I can only say that mankind is generally stupid, or else they would not suck up in such huge numbers to such as Hitler, Stalin, Kim Il Sung, Pol Pot, Milosevic, Mugabe, Assad, Putin and Donald Trump, just to name a few.
    I can only say for myself that I’m not that stupid. Not in this respect. But one alone – as Orwell put it, “a minority of one” – is licked on showdown. Where are my divisions? With what army could I fight and defeat the authoritarians? Oh, I’m sure I’m not the only one who isn’t that stupid as to be an authoritarian, but such as we are few and far in between. And look at the way they handle teh climate change, they always subject it to their short-time petty and selfish interests. Really, what hope is there for mankind?

  • Yausari

    All the Imams I’ve ever met are the nicest people. That video supposed to be legit? “Taliban Commander”, really?

  • Just_Stopping_By

    “I see CAIR’s posts all the time and there hasn’t been any mention what’s been going on with Christians being killed all over the Middle East and Africa.”

    http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/12864-cair-condemns-killing-of-egyptian-christians-attacks-in-denmark.html “The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today reiterated its condemnation of the ISIS terrorist group following the killing of 21 Egyptian Christians in Libya.”

    “I also don’t see Obama mention anything about the genocide and sex slavery of the Yazidis and we’re in Syria.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/isis-genocide-john-kerry-220916#ixzz43BZX1PAi “The Islamic State is committing genocide against Yazidis, Christians and
    Shiite Muslims in Iraq and Syria, Secretary of State John Kerry declared on Thursday…” I think we can assume that Kerry is speaking on behalf of the Obama administration.

    “Omission of news is something I notice a lot and not just from them, but say the New York Times…”

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/03/25/world/map-isis-attacks-around-the-world.html Today’s New York Times

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