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On Marco Rubio “Standing Up” To Trump’s Islamophobia

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Guest post by AJ

It’s cringe worthy to see Senator Rubio tackle Trump’s Islamophobia by mentioning the crescents in the Arlington Cemetery and thus trying to appear ‘Presidential’. Rubio’s record shows he has no genuine concern about Islamophobia. Take for example when he lambasted President Obama for his speech at a Baltimore mosque or the fact that Rubio’s largely Zionist neocon donors wouldn’t want Rubio to behave in any other way. These examples highlight that Rubio is neither Presidential or better than Trump. His criticisms of Trump fall off the mark as they just reinforce the reality that he is a politician who will say anything to the win the race.

via. Vox

At CNN’s Republican debate on Thursday, Marco Rubio appeared to do something very unusual for the GOP stage: He tried to take a stand against Islamophobia, particularly against Donald Trump’s Islamophobia.

Only Rubio did it in the worst possible way.

Rubio said, commenting on Trump’s comments that “a lot of” Muslims hate America:

I know that a lot of people find appeal in the things Donald says, because he says what people wish they could say. The problem is presidents can’t just say anything they want. It has consequences — here and around the world.

And so let me give you one: Two days ago, I met this extraordinary couple who are on furlough because they are missionaries in Bangladesh. It’s a very tough place to be a missionary. It’s Muslim. And their safety and security very much relies upon friendly Muslims that live alongside them — that may not convert but protect them and certainly look out for them. And their mission field really are Muslims that are looking to convert to Christianity as well. And they tell me that today they have a very hostile environment in which to operate in because the news is coming out that in America leading political figures are saying that America doesn’t like Muslims.

So this is a real impact. There is no doubt that radical Islam is a danger in the world.

I can also tell you that if you go to any national cemetery, especially Arlington, you’re gonna see crescent moons there. If you go anywhere in the world, you’re going see American men and women serving us in uniform that are Muslims. And they love America. And as far as I know, no one on this stage has served in uniform in the United States military. Anyone out there that has the uniform of the United States on and is willing to die for this country is someone that loves America — no matter what their religious background may be.

Rubio’s answer isn’t that we shouldn’t be bigoted against Muslims because we should respect other people and their beliefs. It’s that we shouldn’t be bigoted against Muslims because it’s tactically advantageous to be polite, because we need Muslim allies in the Middle East, Muslims might convert to Christianity, and Muslim Americans could maybe join the military.

This is pretty weak. The problem with Islamophobia is, fundamentally, that it’s bigotry. While being nice to Muslims does happen to be tactically advantageous (as Hillary Clinton has also said), it shouldn’t be the primary reason for rejecting bigotry.

Not only that, but Rubio actually suggested that we should respect Muslims because they might stop being Muslims — by converting to Christianity…

Read the rest here.

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  • 1DrM

    Was that a response? Let me guess, you believe Obama is a Muslim, right paranoid inbred? You should be sterilized.

  • Awesome

    Apologist dhimmi.

    Argumentum ad hominem

    As expected of a typical troglodyte – nothing but an embarrassing waste of human intelligence. You have lost the argument so you resort to petty name-calling. But even in your petty name-calling you are still wrong.

    Debunking and discrediting arguments with facts and reason, does not define anyone as an “apologist”.

    In addition, the dhimmi system was originally only for pledge violators and hostile enemies before it became standardized for all non-Muslims during the Umayyad and Abbasid dynasties and was abolished over 150 years ago by the Ottomans. It is therefore as relevant today as the “perpetual servitude” system that Christians used to impose on non-Christians living under their rule.

    Hence, it is impossible for anyone today to be a “dhimmi” under any established government in any country. Unsurprisingly, the only ones harping on it today are the anti-Islam polemicists and Islamophobes in their fear-mongering propaganda campaign against Islam and Muslims.

    Try again.

  • Awesome

    Lies lie lies.

    Yet not one that has been demonstrated to be a lie.

    There was another honor killing in Austria.

    I’m sure you can find a lot more murders with various motives that have happened recently. “Honor killing” is murder and is technically a criminal offense virtually everywhere today. It just also happens to be a cultural practice that some locales sadly still have a high tolerance for. Unfortunately, some individuals and families from those locales still carry that cultural baggage with them when they immigrate to countries that don’t tolerate it. The fact that so many of them are Muslim, is irrelevant, as just because a Muslim does something, does not mean that it necessarily has anything to do with Islam.

    Muslims and their constant bitching is why they aren’t liked. They do it to themselves.

    That may be why Muslims are not liked by you and maybe some of the people you talk to, but you cannot speak for everyone who does not like Muslims.

    In reality, the negative perceptions of Islam and Muslims are entirely based on lies, half-truths and sensationalism, generated by the “bogeyman industry” after the collapse of their last bogeyman: the Soviet Union. The corporate media promotes it, and the phony experts shill for it online.

    Florida’s Islamic scholar was preaching that killing gays is the kind thing to do to them. That’s a problem, hate speech is what it is. That’s offensive to many here, should he be allowed to get away with insighting violence. You know if someone said Muslims want to die and go to paradise so they should be killed, Muslims would lose their shit. cair would get involved. Probably some shootings or stabbings too. You know, I know it, everyone knows it.

    Either all hate speech should be tolerated or none of it should be. Any hate speech can be used to “insight violence” or perceived as doing so. Out of all the anti-gay speech about killing gays that is preached by pastors in the US, is it all supposed to somehow come down to one person in Florida just because he’s a Muslim? Those sorts of nonsensical double standards are part of what makes the fear of Islam irrational.

  • nativejoe

    No sir, its not fox or trump. Its the behavior of your fellow Muslims. Racist! Of course, I don’t rape people cuz they aren’t Muslim. I don’t shoot people for drawing pictures of a dead guy. My dad wouldn’t kill me for being too American. I don’t expect to be treated different at !y job because of my beliefs. I don’t want to kill gays. I like dogs. If I don’t eat Bacon I don’t order it, instead of crying about others eating it. Oh oh oh, the best one is I don’t belong to a religion who behaves so superior to everyone else and refuse to integrate. I don’t think I am above anyone else, but Islam does. I just think of
    I’ve in a practical way, Muslims aren’t worth the kinds of trouble it brings. Islam is racist. So you long winded bullshit whitewashing anti American statement is just more lies.

  • nativejoe

    Lies lie lies. There was another honor killing in Austria. Muslims and their constant bitching is why they aren’t liked. They do it to themselves. Florida’s Islamic scholar was preaching that killing gays is the kind thing to do to them. That’s a problem, hate speech is what it is. That’s offensive to many here, should he be allowed to get away with insighting violence. You know if someone said Muslims want to die and go to paradise so they should be killed, Muslims would lose their shit. cair would get involved. Probably some shootings or stabbings too. You know, I know it, everyone knows it.

  • nativejoe

    I prefer looking at history and noticing a pattern of behavior. Not everything is a hate crime. Not

  • nativejoe

    Trump zombie? Why? It’s time to think about what is beneficial to u.s. citizens as a whole and stop pandering to all these minority groups who claim they want equality but want to be treated special because of their beliefs or sexual orientation or culture or heritage. Blah blah blah. We spend too much time and money accommodating foreign nationals who make demands but then chant death to America or fly the Mexican flag while doing it.

  • nativejoe

    Your the fool. Every time an honor killing or shooting or bombing the real fools are the ones spewing the bullshit about how those Muslims aren’t practicing Islam cuz it’s so freaking peaceful.

  • Yausari

    You know; I bet nativejoe didn’t read any of that. And then he’s gonna tell everyone that we’re silent with these “issues” we’re having.

  • Awesome

    Can someone define islamaphobia?

    As others have already alluded to – it is the irrational fear of Islam.

    For example is there ever a time when a
    non believer can question Islam and it not be phobic?

    Yes, and some non-Muslims manage to engage in it all the time, by simply not resorting to moral panicking about Islam.

    Is that why so
    many towns in the u.s. populated only by Muslims?

    There are some towns in the US that are populated only by Christians too, and both facts are equally as relevant as the other. But again, depending on the target of irrational fear, it makes all the difference in the world.

    What about women who
    see a vieled lady as offensive because of all the fighting women do to
    be equal in this land?

    Those women should lighten up. Liberation does not translate into being required to show off your goods just because you are “free” to do so. If a woman chooses to veil or not to veil, then that’s her choice to make and is of no concern to the rest of society.

    Does anyone in the Muslim community admit that
    the actions, demands, lawsuits brought on by Muslims have anything to do
    with how others see them?

    If some people have a problem with Muslims doing things legally, then that isn’t a problem for Muslims, but a personal problem for those people.

    I think Trump wants to spare us the grief
    and risks brought on by allowing problematic cultures to immigrate here
    at this time. Allowing people who are anti American to come and pick
    fights or name call is not productive.

    No one who is truly “anti-American” wants to immigrate to the US in the first place, and it isn’t up to one man to decide what cultures are allowed, or not allowed, to exist in the US. The most he can do or try to do, is blacklist certain countries for people who try to immigrate from them, which probably won’t last long anyway, because of how ineffective and counter-productive it would prove to be.

    Yes Islam, you guys are a
    problem when you do nothing to publicly excommunicate all these jihadi
    fundamentalist, extremist Muslims who are practicing something other
    than what we are constantly lectured isn’t Islam. Tell them they aren’t
    Islamic and no perks for murdering or raping. Or any other freaky
    illegal things that goes on.

    No, Islam is not a problem, and whether you are aware of this or not, Muslims do not have religious police that patrol the community to see how everyone is practicing Islam. So “excommunication” is unfeasible. As for criminals who engage in rape, murder, etc., they are the responsibility for the actual police to take care of.

    Plus Americans are sick of hearing the
    whitewashing that’s done we are done being insulted or intimidated when
    we do, say, or draw things we have the right to do.

    So you are saying that these particular “Americans” (and we know it is not all Americans) cannot take as good as they give?

    They have a right to whitewash, insult and intimidate through the things they say, draw, and do to some extent, but are sick of being on the receiving end of it? That is unfortunate that they feel that way. As adults they should know better as they should know that no one is going to afford them the respect that they do not afford to others. Also, despite what the Trumpers may think, you cannot “iron-fist” your way through everything.

    Go Trump.

    Go Nobody.

    http://i.imgur.com/IngbH.png

    P.s.
    quit blocking the streets during prayers. It’s rude and dangerous and
    illegal.

    If only Muslims could congregate for prayer in buildings or open spaces with parking lots away from traffic…

    Can you imagine how convenient that would be for everyone?

    The call to prayers is too loud and is noise pollution.

    It is no louder than a church bell, which isn’t considered “noise pollution”. If you can get used to a church bell, you can get used to the call to prayer.

    Sorry
    to say this but since the last 15 yrs Muslim immigrants have been
    showing us that the troubles that follow aren’t worth the effort.

    Well, Muslim immigrants have been in the US for far longer than 15 years. Things didn’t just begin 15 years ago with 9/11 and the troubles that followed generally have nothing to do with the vast majority of them.

  • Alyeth

    I see what you did there.

  • Just_Stopping_By

    “I have never seen anyone behave like Trump.”

    Well, at least no one without a white robe and hood.

    I like this idea for groups seeing this new face of the Donald: http://time.com/4257767/adl-donald-trump/

  • JD

    Ted Cruz Faulted for Adviser With Anti-Islam Views

    http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/17/ted-cruz-faulted-for-advisor-with-anti-islam-views/

    Senator Ted Cruz came under fire on Thursday after unveiling a list of national security advisers that included Frank Gaffney Jr., a former member of the Reagan administration who is now best known for holding extreme views about Islam.

    Mr. Gaffney was introduced as part of a “high profile” coalition of experts that will offer Mr. Cruz counsel on foreign policy. The inclusion of Mr. Gaffney, who once wrote an op-ed in The Washington Times suggesting that President Obama is Muslim, raised eyebrows among many who consider him to be a fringe conspiracy theorist.

  • sasboy

    I see where you are coming from. But this being election year and the menace of Trump looming large, I see supporting Hillary as the least of all bad options and the most practical method of countering Trump’s toxic rhetoric.

  • 1DrM

    Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin. After all, it was a liberal Democratic president, LBJ, who launched the major escalation of the merciless war against the Vietnamese. The napalming, carpet bombing, “strategic hamlet” prison camps, “Tiger Force” killers, and Operation Phoenix all took place on the watches of the more liberal of the two parties. Yet, many clueless American liberals keep themselves happy in the belief that they’re any better than their awful right-wing blood brothers.

  • 1DrM

    You expect intelligence from Trump supporting moron?

  • 1DrM

    Wrong again, fool. Muslims know full well what Islam is and isn’t. Just like we know what know about the spiritually, physically weak, insecure, jealous, fearful , deceitful and morally bankrupt losers like you.

  • 1DrM

    What rubbish. Typical trump zombie : racist, stupid, no education beyond kindergarten, prone to violence, a false sense of pride and entitlement and chronically uninformed thanks to FOX. You can’t debate Muslims on the best day of your sad life, boy. You can just lie.
    And you aren’t a native either Joey, just the descendant of illegal white immigrants and terrorists, by far the worst “culture” on the planet.

  • Joey Sanders

    Rubio dropped out after he could not even win his home state. Another one bites the dust.

  • nativejoe

    I think it needs to be defined and commonly known. It’s overused on this site. Plus Muslims can’t agree on what Islam is or isn’t.

  • nativejoe

    Can someone define islamaphobia? For example is there ever a time when a non believer can question Islam and it not be phobic? Is that why so many towns in the u.s. populated only by Muslims? What about women who see a vieled lady as offensive because of all the fighting women do to be equal in this land? Does anyone in the Muslim community admit that the actions, demands, lawsuits brought on by Muslims have anything to do with how others see them? I think Trump wants to spare us the grief and risks brought on by allowing problematic cultures to immigrate here at this time. Allowing people who are anti American to come and pick fights or name call is not productive. Yes Islam, you guys are a problem when you do nothing to publicly excommunicate all these jihadi fundamentalist, extremist Muslims who are practicing something other than what we are constantly lectured isn’t Islam. Tell them they aren’t Islamic and no perks for murdering or raping. Or any other freaky illegal things that goes on. Plus Americans are sick of hearing the whitewashing that’s done we are done being insulted or intimidated when we do, say, or draw things we have the right to do. Go Trump. P.s. quit blocking the streets during prayers. It’s rude and dangerous and illegal. The call to prayers is too loud and is noise pollution. Sorry to say this but since the last 15 yrs Muslim immigrants have been showing us that the troubles that follow aren’t worth the effort.

  • The greenmantle

    I really dont think people in the USA realise just how much of their taxes go to the military compared to their allies or even their ” enemies ” . You have the conservatives crying crocolile tears about taxes but refusing to touch the biggest spender by far.
    I remember reading about the Roman empire where the suggestion was made that the roman army built so much stuff ( roads bridges sewers etc etc ) because it gave the soldiers something to do in peace time other than start a revolt . Americans dont seem to have this problem as they see little peace 🙂

    Sir David

  • The greenmantle

    I found it interesting how the chap who writes the Dilbert cartoons sees trump .
    Basically its all a con

    Sir David

  • The greenmantle

    Unfortunetly high taxes in the USA = military spending not services for the people 🙁

    Sir David

  • Jekyll

    And youse done it.

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