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How Wild Anti-Muslim Bikini Stories Spread on the Internet

Saudi Muslims Fine Bikini-Clad Italians $3500? Nope: It’s a Hoax

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Here’s a classic example of how anti-Muslim hate grows on the Internet:

One week ago, the Internet was abuzz over reports that Saudi Arabia fined three Italian tourists $3500 for wearing bikinis in the presence of Muslims. The story was circulated on an obscure Italian-language news site, which referenced an earlier story published on April 28, 2014 at Giornale de Corrriere.

Here’s a screenshot of the original piece:

The original story, published on April 28, 2014

The sensational headline was too good for Muslim-baiters. Though not one single Western news source mentioned the story (which in today’s world should have sent up major red flags), they rushed forward without taking a moment to verify the source and reproduced it on their blogs. Off it went, zipping through the web and social media.

Daniel Greenfield, a notorious anti-Muslim blogger for Front Page, a dark media outfit operated and funded by David Horowitz, slapped the piece up on his website:

The hoax story was swallowed up by Daniel Greenfield at Front Page

Greenfield spent several days Tweeting about the piece, even insisting to readers who suspected this was too wild to be true that whether it was true or not, he would not take the article down until he had proof. Admirable standards of journalism, huh?

The story began to grow. Check out the results that this Google search of the story produced, with Greenfield’s post at the very top:

30K results in 0.48 seconds for this fake news story.

The website Jews News, which two weeks ago came under fire for publishing a fake story about a Muslim man that killed, mutilated, and hung a Christian man, also posted the story on their site. — without a singe source or link. It generated 5.6K shares on Facebook:

For the second time in two weeks, Jews News published a fake story that baits Muslim haters.

Notice in the Google search image above, that Robert Spencer’s hate blog Jihad Watch also pops up. Spencer (unsurprisingly) believed the fake news and posted a story about it, adding to the original headline the words “Sharia Italy.”

Here is a screenshot of the piece on Spencer’s site, which remains live at the time this post was written:

As of Saturday May 17, 2014, this fake news story remained on Jihad Watch.

Spencer takes great pride in touting himself as a “scholar” of Islam, but notice the website he cites as his source: Blazing Cat Fur, which posted the piece and linked back to the Italian satire. What kind of serious scholar would cite a website called “blazing cat fur” as an authoritative source? This source wouldn’t be even accepted in the footnotes of a high school term paper.

Interestingly, Blazing Cat Fur writers later noticed this important point at the bottom of the Italian site:

un sito SATIRICO ("satire")

Catch that? “Gorinale del Corrierre `e un sito satirico…” It is a satirical website, much like The Onion, which pokes fun at societal oddities by running obnoxious headlines that are untrue.

Learning this, Blazing Cat Fur admitted in an update post that the story was, indeed, fake:

"Turns Out to Be a Satire. My Mistake."

As news began to get out that this story was a fake, Daniel Greenfield over at Front Page backed down from claims that it was true, and, to his everlasting credit, removed the story:

Daniel Greenfield removed the story at Front Page after pressure mounted

Even the loud mouth bigot Pamela Geller, who would never miss an opportunity to publish something on her blog that trashes Muslims, took down the story from her site:

Pamela Geller removed the story from her website after learning it was fake.

The Twitter world, though, didn’t seem to care. The outrageous story produced these kinds of Tweets:

"Don't sympathize with people that dress immodestly because of Muslims"

Nearly all of those Tweets (and hundreds of others like them) link back to Deacon Robert Spencer’s online diary, Jihad Watch. Despite the fact that overwhelming evidence has shown that this story is fake — and despite the fact that his source, along with Front Page and Pamela Geller, took the piece down, Spencer refuses.

Even readers of his blog were intelligent enough to do a simple 3-minute Google search and discover this was a fake:


"Once again..." Spencer also once posted a hoax story about cat crucifixion, which he scrubbed and denied.

But let’s look at some of the other reactions to this story from readers of Robert Spencer’s “scholarly” blog:

This Spencer devotee calls Saudi Muslim women "rubbish bags."

This Spencer devotee seems to think every follower of Islam is a slave.

This Jihad Watch reader says that Muslims will "masturbate themselves to death" and try to rape us.

This Spencer fan says that even if the story is fake, it sounds real, so that's good enough.

The point of this story: don’t believe the wild anti-Muslim tales you read on the Internet.

Are some of them true? Sadly so. Are all of them? Absolutely not. It’s always best to insist on the sources. If a story shows up on a site that references the fur of blazing cats, is written on a foreign language blog without a link or any other form of corroboration, or is bandied about by hate group leaders that have a history of spreading fake news, it’s probably suspicious.


Robert Spencer spent the afternoon on Twitter contesting the above claims. He has accused me of lying, and insists that he took down this blog post “days ago:”



Fumbling for a more articulate response than the pedestrian cry of “Liar!” he proceeded to teach me about the computer cache, arguing that I had not cleared mine, thus the reason for the hoax storystill appearing on his website (I found his lesson odd since he routinely admits that he has a “tech guy” that handles all of the things he can’t).


I gave Robert the benefit of the doubt, and since I was away from the computer at the time, I grabbed my iPhone and checked the website from its browser. Here is what I found:

Spencer's site still displays the hoax story on May 17, 2014 at 10:09 PM EDT.

Could it be that both my iPhone cache and computer cache needed resetting? Surely Spencer would try to trot out that argument.

Once I had a moment to sit down at the computer, I cleared the cache in Firefox and Safari. Lo and behold, the page still came up in both browsers. But Spencer said he took it down “days ago.” That’s funny, since multiple web data analyzers that process site data and build reports about page activity show the exact opposite.

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Spencer now says his “tech guy” is investigating it and he is assembling evidence that all of the above is a grand lie — a scheme on my part to hoodwink readers. It is very obvious, though, that Spencer is not interested in telling the truth.


Alas, after having made an example of Robert Spencer by pointing out that he was, indeed, not telling the truth and that the hoax story remained on his web page, after nearly holding his hand while explaining that the web analytic tools in the screenshots above showed an active page, and after pressure on Twitter mounted against him, he found it in his heart to do what he should have done last week: last night he removed the piece. Here is the shot of that:

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Good for you, Robert. Next time, don’t cite obscure blogs like “blazing cat fur” as your authoritative source. Also, do some basic homework if you want people to take you seriously. And tell the truth when you realize that you made an error and people call you out on it. It’s far more noble to say, “I’m sorry, my bad” and remove the piece than to persist in nasty untruths, all the while fomenting hatred of Muslims within the infected bowels of the Internet, where your online diary Jihad Watch lives.


Alas, after promising to assemble evidence that he took down the post, Robert Spencer summoned his “tech guy,” Marc, to scrap together some (shoddy) claims.

Marc first posts a screenshot (below) of an apparent email exchange where Spencer believed that he had deleted the blog, but apparently had not, and begged Marc’s help to scrub it:


In the piece, Marc claims that I somehow manipulated the screenshot that I took, insisting that the “Login to Comment” and “Sign Up for Our Daily Digest” links on the far right sidebar were changed on May 13 to bold versions of their former self; in my screenshots they are not bold. He also adds that the scroll bar on the right side of the page is missing and that is prima facie evidence that I have altered the image.

Screenshots with Apple computers are taken using the Command + Shift + 4, which opens a cursor that can be dragged and adjusted to capture an image; on PC computers, there’s simply a PrtScn [Print Screen] button, which captures everything on the screen, leaving it up to the user to crop it as he/she likes. Presumably, Marc knows this because the image of the email above is cropped neatly around the edges, showing nothing else on the computer screen.

Let’s use Marc’s own logic against him, shall we?

First, notice the above email, which has been altered with black smudges in Photoshop or some other program to conceal the email address. Also note that there is no scroll bar in the image. Further, Spencer’s first message to Marc came at 6:29PM on May 11, 2014. Marc’s reply comes at 6:13PM, which is 16 minutes earlier. Even if he was in a different time zone, the hour would change, (for instance, PST is 3 hours earlier that EST), but the minutes would not. In the UK, now (a country that Robert is banned from entering) it is 3:20PM, while it’s 10:20AM on the east coast of the United States. Hour changes, minutes don’t. In the event that someone sent me an email from the UK and the time read “3:20PM,” it would be obvious that they were +5 hours ahead.

More: Notice how there is NO space after the phrase “On 14-05-11 06:29 PM, Robert Spencer wrote” and the link that he posts in his initial email. Now, scroll up to Marc’s reply: “On May 11, 2014, at 6:13PM…” Suddenly a space pops up before the text in his email message. Why is this? Is it a sloppy Photoshop job, or was text deleted? Also, why is the wording about the time and date that the email messages were written different in the same Chrome browser? “On May 11, 2014″ and “On 14-05-11.”

So — who is the one doing the manipulating here?

Does it seem odd to you that “weeks ago,” Spencer would SUDDENLY decide to bold the words “Login to Comment” and “Sign Up for Our Daily Digest” in his sidebar? And doesn’t it seem fishy that “weeks” after his alleged request, Marc FINALLY got around to doing it EXACTLY during the period that this fishy story started to unravel as a fraud?

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, chances are that it’s a duck.

Next: Marc claims that the fact that the comments on the piece in question suddenly stop on May 11 proves that the piece was inactive. But that assumes that the comments on Robert Spencer’s diary site are published automatically, without an approval process by the moderator. They are not. Could it be the case that Spencer, who upon learning that the story was true, stopped approving the barrage of comments that likely came his way when the social media world became aware that it was fake? It really would be wonderful if Spencer would open up his comments section.

Also, anyone can look at previous pieces published by Spencer (that are active on the site) and see that the comments eventually die off and people move on to the next piece. Why would this be any different? Marc’s logic (the word logic is a REAL stretch here) would suggest that any piece that is not actively receiving comments after a given date is “inactive.” We know that’s not true.

Now: Why does Marc not address ANY of the statistical web data I showed? If the page was indeed taken down, why did web analytics show an active page, per the screenshots I have above? Surely they would not be able to pull up information for a page that did not exist and thus was not receiving an influx on bandwidth, views, or other traffic hits.

And what about the fact that the page appeared on my iPhone? Where is Marc’s explanation for that? Will he say, also, that my phone was showing a cached version of the site? Is every computer that inconveniently displayed the story before their eyes all of a sudden showing a cached version?

Lastly, and most importantly, Spencer has not answered why he ever posted this story in the first place — why he didn’t do thorough research, why he ever thought it was plausible to cite a website called “Blazing Cat Fur,” why he didn’t take 3 minutes to verify its accuracy, or confer with other news media sources to verify that it indeed happened.

Imagine if a university professor cited “Blazing Cat Fur” in the endnotes of a book manuscript or an academic paper? Imagine, for that matter, if a high school student cited it in a term paper. Would it be accepted? The answer is: No.

There’s a reason for this: Robert Spencer swallows up anything that represents Muslims in a possibly negative light, and his uncontrollable urge to garble up this hoax and run it on his site without evidence demonstrates that clearly.


I don’t know why it didn’t occur to me earlier to use the EXACT same damning piece of evidence that Marc, Robert’s “tech guy,” coughed up: Google cache. I typed the web address for the article in question into Google Cache and received this:

Jihad Watch Screen Shot

This is a full-page screenshot using a PC. Note that the date in the bottom right reads: “5/19/2014″ and the time is “4:44PM.” Note that in the cache description at the TOP of the image above, the following text appears:

“It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on May 18, 2014 02:43:16 GMT”

Contrary to Robert and Marc’s claims, the “Login to Comment” and “Sign Up For Our Daily Digest” do NOT appear bold, and there IS a faint line that divides them. This means that yesterday, the page looked exactly as it did above. This clearly indicates that Robert and/or Marc adjusted the sidebar in an effort to conceal the fact that Spencer lied about not removing the page.

It’s always wonderful when tactics of Islamophobes give you good ideas for evidence to use against them. Thank you, Marc, for the Google Cache tip. It really was the final nail in the coffin!

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    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      Makes sense.

    • Anonymous

      must be a clone created by Daleks

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      Maybe, although I’m disappointed that he’s decided to put his lot in with the islamophobes.

    • Anonymous

      Maybe Marc is Dr. Who 0_0

    • Anonymous

      didn’t they ban that neo-nazi website?

    • Anonymous

      I’ve seen 5 year olds who can tell better lies

    • Friend of Bosnia

      The truth does not serve fascists. They just “lie, lie, lie brazenly. Some time the lie will stick.”

    • Iman

      Thank you so much islam’s knights for defending Islam.

    • LiesYouTell

      Yup, Five Feet of Fury is a regular guest on the islamophobic Sun News and is a fan of the JDL.

    • Tanveer Khan

      Further, Spencer’s first message to Marc came at 6:29PM on May 11, 2014. Marc’s reply comes at 6:13PM, which is 16 minutes earlier. Even if he was in a different time zone, the hour would change, (for instance, PST is 3 hours earlier that EST), but the minutes would not.

    • Yausari

      so the ‘tech guy’ thinks 99.99% of what spencer say is true? I wonder how many times he had to mention that? should’ve just admit your mistake. And now your pants is on fire.

    • Rizwan

      It matters not whether Mr. Spencer makes one mistake or ten or a hundred. What matters is: on what side does he err? A scholar errs on the side of caution. Mr. Spencer erred on the side of making Muslims look bad.

      Has it ever happened that he made Muslims look good by mistake?

    • rookie

      Thats exactly what makes them perfect sources for Bobby boy.

    • Anonymous

      Notice how none of the websites issue any sort of clarification or update as tell their mindless sheep that the story they posted was fake. Many respected news agencies will at least post an apology to their readers and say that next time they will check the source carefully; that didn’t happen in the toilet bowl that is the “Counter Geeehad” websites.

  • mindy1

    On the internet everyone can hear you scream…whether it’s a true scream or not

Britain First ‘invasion’ FAIL


Britain First ‘invasion’ FAIL

Britain First, the fringe far-right, Muslim-hating group, made a second visit to the East London Mosque today (apparently an “invasion” which involved four people).

They left pretty quickly, after a local Community Support Officer spotted their car on zig-zag traffic lines, and run a red light as they made their “getaway”.

Britain First’s previous visit, as part of their misnamed ‘Christian Patrol’, showed them bravely swigging lager and unfurling a banner on the street outside … before again running off quickly.

Of course, members of the public are welcome to attend the mosque and, with a booking, take a tour of the facilities (perhaps Britain First had trouble writing down the number).

Britain First is, of course, a tiny hate group whose members were booted out of the far-right British National Party (BNP). The mother of murdered soldier Lee Rigby has recently asked Britain First leader Paul Golding (a former BNP councillor in Kent and the party’s ex-publicity officer) to stop using her son’s name – something Golding has pointedly refused to do – claiming she is, understandably, ‘heartbroken’. Golding also had to admit to Andrew Neil on the BBC’s Daily Politics show that money his organisation claimed to be collecting for British soldiers was, in fact, going to the party itself.

The party has recently boasted of guarding UKIP venues, though as anti-fascist groups have noted, its leader Jim Dowson has strong links to Northern Ireland, where he has been involved in the ‘flag protests’ in Belfast, as well as having a long history in an anti-abortion extremism.

You can see Britain First leader Paul Golding under interview from Andrew Neil on the BBC Daily Politics show here.

HOPE not hate’s background research on Britain First can be read here.

East London Mosque & London Muslim Centre press release, 19 May 2014

Update:  See also “Far right Britain First party ‘invade’ East London Mosque”, International Business Times, 19 May 2014

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    • Anonymous

      You know, you can replace what boris said about muslims with jews and he would fit snuggly in Nazi Germany and fascist Italy

    • Anonymous

      WTF kind of drugs are you on?

      Muslims in the entire European continent BARELY reach 3%

      So if they took over Europe, well they did a shitty job as muslims in the UK are harassed by kindergarten drop outs such as UKIP and the EDL.


      Grow a pair, a few brown people immigrating=/= Invasion And also, there are white european born and raised who Identify them selves as muslim, what do you propose you do with them?

    • Anonymous

      To him, I think he wants the latter

    • Reynardine

      Not always a good idea. Some of these guys look up to Hitler.

    • Anonymous

      A universe where idiots like him are respected

      I pray to never go to such a universe

    • Reynardine

      I believe these people intend the latter. Just to show they can’t stand “intolerance”, you know.

    • Reynardine

      I was already living the last time any countries in Europe were invaded, and though it was a long time ago, I am clear it wasn’t by Muslims.

    • Reynardine

      You mean you think they’re no more tolerant than you.

    • moraka

      Liar liar! You pretty much sound like a typical islamophobe.

    • OldBoris

      “You WILL tolerate Islam because you quite simply don’t have a choice. Muslims are not going anywhere–they will not only stay in Europe, but will continue to come as immigrants.”

      They won’t be able to keep coming forever. At some point we will snap. And when Europeans snap after being humiliated and invaded for decades, the result is not pretty for those who have been invading.

      “You’re greedy elites are not going to stop destroying and plundering whole countries, and importing labor. Try to get them to stop and see how far you get.”

      I’ll do my part. I’ll vote for the PVV in tomorrow’s European Parliament elections.

    • OldBoris

      I’m not in favour of any ideology. I’m a nationalist, plain and simple, and that’s why I think Islam has no place in Europe. That, and the fact that Islam cannot be tolerant.

    • moraka

      What are you sad that your ideological bedfellows failed?

    • Tanveer Khan

      It’s pathetic that some Muslims act like idiots like westerners like you.

    • Tanveer Khan

      Another pathetic pseudo militia.

    • Anonymous

      >Of course, members of the public are welcome to attend the mosque and, with a booking, take a tour of the facilities (perhaps Britain First had trouble writing down the number).

      I highly doubt they could even count to ten let alone write a number.

    • mindy1

      How brave, handing out bibles /sarcasm

    • Reynardine

      Well, well, well. Let’s just call it Operation Sea Lion. That didn’t work either.

Washington DC: Geller is back with another anti-Muslim Metro ad


Washington DC: Geller is back with another anti-Islam Metro ad

In 2012, anti-Islam blogger Pamela Geller’s American Freedom Defense Initiative funded ads throughout the Metro system with a quote from the Quran next to a photo of the burning Twin Towers. Ads that cost Metro $35,000 over a failed effort to block them.

Now she’s back with another awful ad, this one claiming that “Islamic jew-hatred” is “in the Quran” as a response to an ad about “Israel’s occupation” from the American Muslims for Palestine. From Geller’s blog:

The DC Metro transit authority made multiple demands for the substantiation of every claim in our ads before they would accept the ad, and I, of course, happily provided that substantiation. The libelous American Muslims for Palestine antisemitic ad (below) did not have to provide substantiation. The MTA had no problem with their antisemitism. And you cannot provide evidence of a smear and a bigoted lie. But it is proof of the AMP’s hate.

Our ads are in response to the vicious Jew-hating ads that American Muslims for Palestine unleashed on Washington, DC Metro buses last month. And might I add, had we not sued and won in NYC and DC for violating our First Amendment rights when they tried to refuse our previous ads, our ads might never have gone up.

Because of the 2012 court ruling stating that Geller’s ads are protected speech, a Metro spokesperson said they declined to challenge them this time around. But they do sport the disclaimer: “This is a paid advertisement sponsored by the American Freedom Defense Initiative. Advertising space is a designated public forum and does not imply WMATA’s endorsement of any views expressed.”

For the uninitiated, here’s a description of Geller from the Southern Poverty Law Center, which labeled her Stop Islamization of America foundation a hate group:

Pamela Geller is the anti-Muslim movement’s most visible and flamboyant figurehead. She’s relentlessly shrill and coarse in her broad-brush denunciations of Islam and makes preposterous claims, such as that President Obama is the “love child” of Malcolm X. She makes no pretense of being learned in Islamic studies, leaving the argumentative heavy lifting to her Stop Islamization of America partner Robert Spencer. Geller has mingled comfortably with European racists and fascists, spoken favorably of South African racists, defended Serbian war criminal Radovan Karadzic and denied the existence of Serbian concentration camps. She has taken a strong pro-Israel stance to the point of being sharply critical of Jewish liberals., 14 May 2014

See also “This deeply offensive ad is plastered on public buses in Washington, DC”,PolicyMic, 14 May 2014

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    • Älter und weiser

      An article devoid of arguments. So what part about islam that AFDI has published is unsubstantiated? Ah, to do such research and analysis would be real journalism. Not fit for these pages.

    • Tarig Musa

      I’m not feeling judged, you have explicitly passed judgement on me, which you have no right to do! as I have said, I don’t deal with people who lack respect, I have been on this site for a long time now and never once interacted with you because it is clear that you lack the self decency to hold a respectful conversation, there is a reason why your comments require moderation!

      So I say to you, again, goodbye! when you learn to interact with people in a respectful manner then comment on any of my future posts, until then, peace be with you!

    • Anonymous

      And yet he trying to look like an intellectual. I’ve seen more intelligence from cat shit

    • Tarig Musa

      I’m not Pakistani and you know nothing about me so don’t presume to have the right to judge me. As I said, I refuse to deal with someone who lacks even a modicum of respect for the people they are talking to. Goodbye!

    • Tarig Musa

      You haven’t actually responded to anything I said and instead just repeated pretty much to a tee what you said in the last post. Put it this way, if a 5 year old Pakistani girl sees a female president in her country, does she think what a horrible woman that must be or does she think if she can succeed why can’t I? You can call Pakistani democracy whatever you want, it doesn’t really matter since there is no such thing as democracy anywhere in the world, but that doesn’t make.a female becoming president any less of a positive for little girls in said country!

      You have misrepresented my points from the beginning (I never said she is the greatest female role model, the word before it in that sentence makes a big difference, yet you continue to make it seem like I think she is the best politician in the world even in your last post), and been pretty disrespectful in the way you discuss things, so this will the last time I communicate with you.

    • 1DrM

      You’ve definitely been deceived, and you wont be changing anyone’s mind if a corrupt traitor like Benazir Bhutto is the best example you could come up with. You honestly think people don’t know her track record? No honest person would model themselves after crooks such because of the illusion of power. Young women aren’t stupid to be swayed by the likes of such criminals just because of sharing the same gender. Dynastic politics(or any politics for that matter) has nothing to do with equality.

    • Tarig Musa

      I haven’t been deceived at all, you just haven’t understood my point. Most women don’t want to get in to politics, and don’t want to do wrong, they want to be treated as equals. Seeing a woman in a position of power in a male dominated industry in a male dominated country gives young women a belief that they can achieve things without having to depend on their looks or sexuality. If in your eyes that is a bad thing then there is nothing I can say that will change your mind.

    • The greenmantle

      I notice that Pam is against western education and this is why she promtes home schooling . Boko haram are against western education as well . I wonder what other policies these two paragons of hate have in common .

      Sir David

    • Anonymous

      looks like adc714 is out of meds

    • Anonymous

      >Feel free to pick up a history book, christ******t.

      That would require him to be Literate

    • mumtaz alam

      Muslims were physically fighting the fascists way before anybody in Europe, (excluding Spain) ~ Just look at the life of Omar Mukhtar (Lion of the desert).

    • Laila Muhammad

      how about muslims put a ad shoeing israeli pm menachem begin and apartheid leader south african president pw botha embracing and laughing…both were good friends to each other and supported the subjegation of blacks and palestinian residents

    • 1DrM

      You’ve been deceived by Feminist window shopping. What makes you think she “overcame obstacles” and worked her way to the top? Benazir was the offspring of the Bhutto crime family, privileged, never worked a day in her life, and practically inherited her way into office. Dynastic politics at its worst. At least her father Zulfikar had some leadership qualities and could actually speak the national language of the country. Benazir robbed Pakistan during both her terms in office, and her husband, the infamous Mr.10% did even worse taking corruption to new heights, and guess what? Her pathetic, pampered son Bilawal has been made the head of the PPP despite being totally unqualified. And some wonder I refer to Pakistan as a banana republic.

      The only thing Benazir and other female “leaders” in Muslim nations(Tansu Ciller, Khaleda Zia, Sheikh Hasina) proved are that women can just as just deceptive, corrupt, incompetent as their male counterparts.

Call for ‘Muzzer blood’ to be spilled over plan to rebuild Farnworth mosque


Call for ‘Muzzer blood’ to be spilled over plan to rebuild Farnworth mosque

Earlier this month Bolton Council’s planning committee unanimously approved plans by the Sughra Masjid to demolish their existing one-storey place of worship, which has occupied the site since 1987, and replace it with a three-storey building.

Hardly a terrifying example of the creeping Islamification of Farnworth, you might think, but that hasn’t prevented the far right from whipping its supporters up into their usual racist frenzy over the issue.

An online petition against the development has been launched, with the backing of the fascist Bolton Patriot website. So far it has attracted over 500 signatures, along with the usual vituperative abuse of Muslims (“Cannot believe how the western wold allows the scourge of the world race who are so barbaric and full of hatred take over. Absolutely sickens me. I cannot stand what they stand for and don’t even consider them human”).

Although the petition declares that “we as boltonians are against the building of the three story mosque in farnworth”, it is questionable how many of the signatories actually come from Bolton, given that far-right support is being organised as far away as Yorkshire.

There is no question as to the origins of this petition, though. As you can see, it features the very same banner that was displayed by the Bolton branch of the British National Party when they held a protest against the mosque plan outside the town hall last Saturday.

There is also a Facebook page, “No, to the planned Mosque in Farnworth”, which has promoted the BNP petition. It has been “liked” by nearly 900 people, at least two of whom – Carl Bretherton and Frank Whittle – are Bolton residents. Bretherton has posted the suggestion “Pigs blood the site, won’t build then”, to which Whittle responds “Muzzer blood would be better”.

Greater Manchester Police have been informed.

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    • Reynardine

      Sounds like your North= our South.

    • Takashi

      Still doesn’t a large majority of white nationalist group are from there.

    • Sully

      I’m northern! not all northerners are like that

    • Reynardine

      They might lose their tolerance for English cooking, for instance:

    • mindy1

      I wonder what they think will happen if they are around the moooosssllliimmms too much

5 things Bill Maher Got Wrong In Latest Islam Rant

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5 things Bill Maher Got Wrong In Latest Islam Rant

Omar Baddar, Political Scientist, Human Rights Activist

As a liberal agnostic, I might better enjoy my time critiquing religion with fellow skeptics. But when skeptics single out a particular faith or group for unfair demonization, I do feel compelled to respond. It is, of course, old news that Bill Maher is one of the skeptics who, while feeling antipathy towards religion in general, holds exceptional hostility towards Islam. However, the segment on Islam (below) in last weekend’s episode of ‘Real Time’ went beyond typical antipathy and included 5 points that were simply dead wrong:

1. “Not a Few Bad Apples”

Bill Maher insists that extremism and intolerance are problems that afflict Muslims at large, and not just “a few bad apples.” Of course, if anyone compiled a list of violent acts by Muslim extremists, the list would undoubtedly be troublingly long. But the Muslim world is far too vast and diverse to collapse into Maher’s narrow perception of it. It is a world of 1.6 billion Muslims, so even thousands of extremists would be a fraction, and would in no way justify an indictment against Muslims in general. To think along analogous lines, there are more than 10,000 murders and 80,000 rapes every year in the U.S. The Ugandan fanatical Christian LRA group is responsible for the kidnapping of some 66,000 children (a lot more than Boko Haram). In the West Bank, hundreds of thousands of Jewish settlers live on stolen Palestinian land, and many carry out acts of vandalism and violenceagainst Palestinians. But just as none of these facts justify broad indictments of “The Americans,” “The Christians” or “The Jews” as being terrible people (that would be transparently bigoted), the same applies to Islam and Muslims. The acts of a relatively small group of extremists, even when they’re more frequent than we’d like them to be, should never taint entire societies.

2. Brandeis and Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Maher, Matt Welch, and Dinesh D’Souza were all troubled by the fact that Brandeis University rescinded its invitation and offer of an honorary degree to anti-Muslim activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali. D’Souza complained that surely even the controversial Michael Moore would’ve been allowed to speak, while Welch noted that Tony Kushner received the same award a few years back despite having allegedly made derogatory comments about Israel’s supporters. This may sound like a reasonable point, but only until you think about it for more than 2 seconds and realize that these are ridiculous comparisons. Michael Moore and Tony Kushner never suggested that, for example, Judaism should be crushed, or claimed that all devout Jews support murder (I wonder what Welch and D’Souza would think of honoring such people). By contrast, Hirsi Ali didn’t just take controversial political positions; she actually did hate-monger against an entire faith group. Shesaid that “we are at war with Islam,” that we have to “crush [it] in all forms,” and that “There is no moderate Islam.” She also insisted that 9/11 was “the core of Islam,” and even claimed that “Every devout Muslim who aspired to practice genuine Islam” approved of the 9/11 attacks. Can anyone dispute that this foments hostility towards Muslims in general, and goes beyond merely holding a controversial opinion?

3. Female Genital mutilation (FGM)

In the course of explaining what’s supposedly wrong with Islam, Bill Maher noted that Ayaan Hirsi Ali “underwent genital mutilation, which almost all women do in [Somalia] and many other Muslim countries.” This seems to indicate that Maher is under the impression that FGM is a Muslim problem, which it absolutely is not. In the overwhelming majority of Muslim countries, the practice is virtually unheard of. If you look at the World Health Organization’s map of where FGM is prevalent, you’ll notice that all of the top countries (except Yemen) are in Africa, including Christian-majority countries. For example, Eritrea is a Christian-majority country, yet the FGM rate there is 89%. So if you insist on generalizing, you may be able to get away with saying FGM is an African problem, but it most certainly isn’t a “Muslim” one.

4. Where are the Buddhist suicide bombers?

While making the case for the uniqueness of the threat we face from Muslims, Dinesh D’Souza said, to audience laughter, “you don’t see a whole lot of Buddhist suicide bombers.” Perhaps D’Souza is not aware that, to quote Human Rights Watch, “Burmese Buddhist mobs attacked Muslim communities” killing dozens and destroying property last year. Or maybe he’s not familiar with the anti-Muslim rhetoric of the radical Buddhist monk (also known as “the Burmese Bin Laden“) who stirred the violence. But if it was “suicide bombings” specifically he was concerned with, it certainly is worth noting that it was the Tamil Tigers, who happen to be Hindu, not Muslim, who were the “innovators” of suicide bombings, and were responsible for hundreds of them over the past few decades. But if it’s the threat to Americans in particular, it is also worth noting that since 9/11, right-wing extremists claimed more lives than “jihadists” have in America.

5. Islamophobia

Bill Maher quoted Sam Harris mis-attributing to the late Christopher Hitchens the silly description of ‘Islamophobia’ as “a word created by fascists and used by cowards to manipulate morons.” This turned out not to be a Hitchens quote, but a slogan created by a provocateur, and used by bigots to get cheap applause from idiots. You cannot be a sensible person and look at (a) the hike in anti-Muslim hate crimes after 9/11, (b) the hysteria that breaks out around the building of mosquesin America, and (c) the use of anti-Muslim rhetoric in political campaigns and conclude that Islamophobia is manufactured. Islamophobia is real; it is destructive, and it should be confronted by all people of conscience.

Why All of This Matters

Ultimately, this isn’t about scoring points against Maher or his panel; this is about making this world a better place. The Muslim world is incredibly diverse, and can by no means be reduced to a single cohesive unit. From Eastern Europe to the horn of Africa, and from Lebanon to Indonesia, we are talking about fundamentally different societies and cultures. Some of these societies are more socially progressive than others; but in all of these societies, there are Muslims who are fighting for women’s rights and against extremism and violence, and they deserve our support against their reactionary opponents. To lump them all together under an ugly stereotype that’s defined by the Muslim world’s worst elements only alienates our progressive allies in Muslim societies and makes their causes all the more difficult to advance.

Bill Maher attempted to cite an Egypt poll, saying it showed that 80-90% of people in the country approved of death as a punishment for leaving Islam. The actual number is 64%, which is still horrifyingly high, and I am alarmed by it. An Israeli or a Palestinian may also be alarmed by the poll that found the majority of Israelisfavor discrimination against their non-Jewish neighbors. But how we express these concerns also matters. If some random city in America had a high crime rate in the African American community, and one public official said “I’m concerned about this problem” and another public official said “the blacks are a problem,” which of these two would we all (probably including Bill Maher) condemn as a racist? When concern for certain problems within societies turns into hostility towards inexcusably large groups of people who have little in common beyond some random demographic factor (in this case, religion), then that is a paradigmatic example of bigotry. And this type of bigotry puts entire communities under attack from the outside, thus distracting from their fight to advance and tackle problems within. If Bill Maher wants to take his progressivism seriously, he should really let go of reckless rhetoric and join the real fight to advance progressive causes within and without Muslim societies.

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    • Wrong. They’re tinged in ethnicity and religion.

    • Nathan Davey

      The fact that you think the two are even remotely equivalent is quite a testament to how morally bankrupt you are.

    • Yisroel

      It would be nice if you really agreed. Unfortunately that’s one of your tools apparently, just cut off.

      And again I’m sharing my thoughts and beliefs which don’t change because of your terribly idiotic responses of being a Hasbara troll.

    • Yisroel

      I’m suggesting that there’s a context here. And that is 2 things: 1) Muslims hate the Jews in Israel. Read the history, read how they gloated before their wars that they would slaughter everybody, read how even Egypt and Jordan that signed peace treaties how they even today speak of Israeli Jews. Look how Fatah names streets, makes cartoons in their papers, and dance when Israeli civilians are killed. And the Hamas charter calls for the destruction and death of all Israeli Jews. 2) The world has a history for centuries of anti semitism. They focus more on Israel when it fights a defensive war and does more than any army in history to protect civilians on both sides, and kills 1,000 civilians that were all Hamas’ fault, than on wars by countries that weren’t under rocket attack on 80% of their country and kill 1,000’s more.

      There’s much more. But these are the core points

    • Laila Muhammad

      he is pro israel which is his choice some americans were pro-apartheid south africa in the 70’s…..but being pro-israel doesnt mean you have to be anti-islam….lets remember the facts…claliph omar reopened jerusalem to jews after a 500 yr ban by the romans….in 1492 after threats by spain’s christian rulers that jews ‘convert leave or die’ moslem turkey sent ships to pick up the jews and bring them to moslem turkey….during wwll millions of jews were killed in christian europe while less than 1000 jews were killed in the nazi occupied mideast…all of which make geller’s ads that the quran calls on muslims to kill jews laughable….revisionist history whether coming from idiotic nazis who say no holocaust occurred or idiotuc zionists who say muslims never helped jews throughout history are both abhorent

    • Friend of Bosnia

      The above is an exact description of fascism.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Well, they did try to fly some (small) airplanes into buildings, didn’t they? Besides that, aren’t kamikazes a Japanese invention? I’m not aware the Japanese had a Muslim majorioty or indeed a considerable proportion of Muslims at that time. And yes the LTTE are not Buddhists.

    • Simon93

      That quote on Islamophobia wasn’t from Hitchens. It was vodkaninja/Andrew Cummins. An anti-Muslim, pseudo-liberal bigot on twitter.

    • Heinz Catsup

      Don’t we all?

    • Heinz Catsup

      “If Bill Maher wants to take his progressivism seriously, he should really let go of reckless rhetoric and join the real fight to advance progressive causes within and without Muslim societies.”

      Sadly he won’t.

    • Mohamed Al Saadoon

      If we indict Muslims for the acts of terrorists and say “not a few bad apples” then how come the US military can use that excuse every time one if it’s soldiers goes on a rampage, kills some civilians, and gets a slap on a wrist?

    • Sagar K

      The LTTE are Hindus. And anyway, their actions are racial/ethnically charged, not religious in nature.

    • Seeker

      He’s an atheist. So basically not really a ‘faith group’. Which proves however that there is no boundary to nuttiness.

    • Elmorocojo

      I wait for the day when he isn’t relevant anymore.

    • Baktashi

      i think the key statement in this article was:

      “When concern for certain problems within societies turns into hostility towards inexcusably large groups of people who have little in common beyond some random demographic factor (in this case, religion), then that is a paradigmatic example of bigotry. And this type of bigotry puts entire communities under attack from the outside, thus distracting from their fight to advance and tackle problems within.”

      This expresses my view that there is a difference in recognizing issues in a society, and just blaming it on the ‘type of people’. Cauz when you say for example “there are women issues in Muslim countries because they are Muslim”…then the case is closed. there is no solution other than changing their faith or race.

    • mindy1

      Maher is no liberal, he’s just a jerk. All faith groups have their nutters.

Prague: Hundreds of Muslims protest police mosque raid


Prague: Hundreds of Muslims protest police mosque raid

With prayer mats spread on the ground behind the Ministry of the Interior, hundreds of kneeling Muslims gathered today to protest last Friday’s police mosque raid.

About 300 men and several dozen women prayed, listened to speeches and made religious chants in a show of defiance against what a community leader described as an “entirely inappropriate” raid by officials.

There was a small anti-Muslim counter-protest in the area behind the Prague 7 ministry where the prayer gathering – Friday is the most important day of worship for Muslims – was held.

The action by the Czech Republic’s Muslim community comes after a raid by police on Friday last week of a mosque and of the headquarters of the Islamic Foundation. Officers detained a 55-year-old Czech citizen accused of organizing the translation of a book that, according to police, spreads racism, anti-Semitism and xenophobia. Dozens of people were held at the mosque when the raid took place during Friday prayers.

Muneeb Al Rawi, chairman of the Union of Muslim Communities in the Czech Republic (ÚMO), today told The Prague Post the action by the police’s Unit for Combating Organized Crime (ÚOOZ) was inappropriate.

“We would like to express our indignation with the way the intervention [was carried out], for the time, the place,” he said. He described the way the raid was carried out as “entirely inappropriate” and “utterly uneducated.” “I would say we’re being victimized because it wasn’t necessary, because always we’re not preventing … authorities in carrying out their acts and duties,” he said.

In a statement, Al Rawi, who estimated the Czech Republic’s Muslim population to be about 20,000, also said he “fear[ed] that members of the Muslim minority in the Czech Republic might be endangered.”

He said the authorities should explain why the raid took place and “why it happened in this form” and said “”all legal means” would be used to ensure the “very unpleasant case” was examined. “We warn against the rise of extremism and anti-Muslim sentiment that such behavior may cause and we are concerned about the wave of Islamophobic comments which appeared after the police intervention,” he said.

Prague Post, 2 May 2013

See also “Muslims protest against police raid in Prague”, České Noviny, 2 May 2014

And “Czech churches critical of raids against Muslims”, Associated Press, 2 May 2014

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    • Tanveer Khan

      Ah, have you read it? Is it a good book? People on the tinterweb are giving it five stars.

    • Omar_the_Egyptian

      ‘Also, looking at the titles of his books, I can’t see one that could include “racism, antisemitism and xenophobia” The book in question is ” The Fundamental’s Of Tawheed”. there is none of the aforementioned things in that book. Ironic that they accuse the book of xenophobia and racism though.

    • Tanveer Khan

      Ah, I see. I can’t see anything book related on the controversies part of his Wikipedia page.

      Also, looking at the titles of his books, I can’t see one that could include “racism, antisemitism and xenophobia”.

    • rookie

      It was a book that Bilal Philips wrote, I don`t know which one exactly… But, the fact is, the same book was beeing sold in bookstores in Prague just two years ago…I met several young guys from Prague who converted to Islam…

    • Tanveer Khan

      It would have been helpful to give the name of the book, in my opinion.

    • mindy1

      Good on them all people should stand up for themselves

Tory activist: ‘Every single Muslim should be expelled’


Tory activist: ‘Every single Muslim should be expelled’

Stephen Lees, a long-term Conservative activist, has tweeted that all Muslims should be expelled from Britain, and all mosques demolished. His Tweet came a few minutes after he tweeted a link to a Telegraph article entitled “Head teachers raise ‘serious concerns’ over Islamic school take-over”.

Mr Lees describes himself on Twitter first and foremost as a Tory. His blog site reveals that he has been involved with the party for decades, first delivering leaflets for the Conservatives aged eleven. He went on to become Secretary of the Coulsdon South Conservatives at the tender age of 17, and, as one of the youngest branch officers in the country, was introduced to Margaret Thatcher at the 1975 Conservative Party Conference. He boasted on Twitter that he has been canvassing in Coulsdon for over 40 years.

UKIP Daily, 3 May 2014

I expect we’ll see more of this in the run-up to the elections on 22 May, with UKIP responding to the exposure of their own racists, Islamophobes and homophobes by exposing those within the ranks of the other parties.

Update:  The Press Association quotes a Tory party spokesman as saying: “Stephen Lees is not a member of the Conservative party according to local records checked today. The local association has also confirmed that he is not a party activist, and has no formal ties to the Conservative party.”

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Florida Senate OKs bill banning use of foreign law in family court cases


Alan Hays

Will Florida join Arizona, Kansas, Louisiana, North Carolina, South Dakota and Tennessee in banning the use of foreign law? Alan Hays has pushed various versions but finally the senate has approved his polished proposal (SB-386). When will it be up for debate in the House is still not clear.

Here is the bill maker Alan Hays explaining how We Need to “Vaccinate” Against Shariah

When you were a child, did your parents have you vaccinated against different diseases? That was a preemptive gesture on their part for which I would hope you’re very thankful. And this is very similar to that. Your mom and dad would not want you to get sick from one of those dreadful diseases, and I don’t want any American to be in a Florida courtroom and have their constitutional rights violated by any foreign law. That’s it. It’s not that complicated.

Florida Senate OKs bill banning use of foreign law in family court cases

By Jim Turner, News Service of Florida

TALLAHASSEE — Foreign laws would be banned in Florida courts for certain family-related cases, under a bill the Senate sent to the House on Monday.

The Senate voted 24-14 to approve the proposal (SB 386) by Umatilla Republican Alan Hays, who has pushed various versions of the measure the past few years.

The bill would restrict courts and arbitration tribunals from applying foreign law and legal codes to matters of divorce, alimony, division of marital assets, child support and child custody.

The proposal is more defined than last year’s effort, which got House support but failed to advance in the Senate.

The House companion (HB 903) has reached the floor but has yet to be scheduled for debate.

Hays said the bill will do nothing to impede international trade, a prior concern of business groups, and won’t cast a negative message upon anyone from another country.

“For those people who want to come to America we welcome them, but when you come to America you’re going to be governed on American laws and when you come to Florida you’re going to be governed on Florida laws,” Hays said. “We dare not apologize for that, folks. This is a very good bill. It’s an all American bill.”

But the bill has been criticized as anti-Muslim and targeted at Sharia religious law followed in some Islamic countries.

Sen. Eleanor Sobel, D-Hollywood, said she opposed the bill because foreign laws have never been implemented in Florida courts or any other state.

Sen. Geraldine Thompson, D-Orlando, added that the bill appears neutral but the perception is that it targets certain religious groups in Florida.

“There are individuals who feel this bill targets them,” Thompson said. “It has caused unnecessary polarization.”

The Florida chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations sent letters to Republican lawmakers on April 7 asking them to reject the bill they claim is intended to “marginalize” American Muslim and other minority communities.

“If you remain silent while party organizations invite Islamophobic speakers and GOP legislators support bills driven by anti-Muslim bias, your party risks alienating one of the fastest growing groups of American voters,” CAIR-FL’s Chief Executive Director Hassan Shibly wrote. “Florida now has 150,000 registered Muslim voters. The GOP cannot afford to continue to alienate a minority growing in influence, especially in a key swing state such as Florida.”

The bill doesn’t mention Sharia or any other specific foreign law, which Senate staff believes strengthens the measure against legal challenges.

“As religion is not mentioned at all, the court will deem it facially neutral,” the staff review said. “A court will then apply the Lemon test (a legal test), and likely find both a secular government purpose and that the law does not facilitate excessive governmental entanglement with religion. Because of this, a court will likely uphold the law from a First Amendment challenge.”

If signed into law, Florida would join six other states – Arizona, Kansas, Louisiana, North Carolina, South Dakota and Tennessee – with laws restricting foreign laws in state courts.

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    • Reynardine

      My, you’re a tiresome little yapdog.

Edinburgh: Security guard ‘found bacon in mosque’


Edinburgh: Security guard ‘found bacon in mosque’

A security guard at the Central Mosque told a court he was left feeling “very bad” after finding bacon had been thrown into the building and placed on the main door handles. Usman Mahmood, 34, said it “hurt my feelings to have this meat in my sacred place” as he gave evidence at Edinburgh Sheriff Court.

He said he had opened the mosque for worship at around 6am on January 31 last year and had gone to his office to watch CCTV. Mr Mahmood told the court: “I saw persons running towards the main entrance and when I went upstairs I saw a piece of meat hanging on the window of the worshipping area and two pieces on the entrance door handle.”

Asked by Fiscal Depute, Mark Keane, what kind of meat it had been, Mr Mahmood said: “It was bacon. Muslims do not eat it or touch that kind of meat. It is forbidden in my country.” He said he had removed the bacon using a newspaper so that he did not handle it, and added: “I was surprised if someone had done this for a joke. It is against our culture and religion.”

Accused duo Chelsea Lambie, 28, from Paisley and 38-year-old Douglas Cruikshank, from Galashiels, have both denied the racially aggravated charges against them. Lambie has lodged special defences of incrimination and alibi.

The trial continues.

Edinburgh Evening News, 28 April 2014

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    • Rights

      In the same line of this young lady’s par excellence behavior, Bob Pitt’s 25 January 2013 post on the Islamophobia Watch website relates the following:

      “The Drunken Lambie, of Fereneze Drive, Glenburn, then launched foul verbal abuse as she called Mr Mahmood a “Paki b*****d” and told him to “go back to his own country”.”

      I have tried to convince people that “Paki” is a very much racist term. It originated in England, and it seems it still prevails there.

    • Anonymous

      From what I know, touching a pig is only unclean and not forbidden, but it is forbidden to consume pork and pork products; the only exception to that rule is when a person is starving to death and there is only pork to satisfy his/her hunger. The same goes for touching dogs, it may be unclean but certainly not forbidden, infact many people love to keep dogs inspite of their uncleanliness especially among farmers.

      So in conclusion, no touching a pig will not send a muslim to hell, the worst is he/she may have to clean his/her self before praying; the worst thing that plastering a mosque will do is delay prayers for cleaning and that’s it.

    • Heinz Catsup

      So wait. Muslims can’t touch pork AT ALL? I thought it was forbidden to consume like in Judaism (unless of course it was under a certain circumstance) but it’s haram to touch as well?

      Lol at her wanting to “improve the world” & being inspired by Hitler, though.

    • Reynardine

      Ah. Pardon my bluntness, but “crab” is U.S. slang for a pubic louse, and an allusion to a person being the kind of companion that will wind you up in Joe’s Crab House indicates that their habitual associational practices are unhygeinic.

  • Tanveer Khan

    Islamophobes tend to be abnormal people so it isn’t unreasonable to believe that they have weird sexual desires.

    I don’t understand the Joe’s Crab House (shack?) reference though….

Plymouth Islamic education centre hit in £10,000 arson attack


Plymouth Islamic education centre hit in £10,000 arson attack

An arson attack is thought to have caused £10,000 worth of damage to a recently refurbished Islamic education centre in South Devon.

People arrived at the Plymouth Islamic Education Trust centre (Piety) on April 19 to discover “raw sewerage pouring into the street” after a fire damaged the building’s exterior wall and sewage pipes. CCTV footage from the early hours of the morning suggests that the damage was caused by two individuals setting fire to wheelie bins beside the centre.

The centre’s director, Mohamed Muganzi, said the cost of repairing the building has been estimated at between £5,000 and £10,000. “The building work is still under warranty but this is not wear and tear,” Mr Muganzi said. “Most of the materials on the wall that we used were imported from Poland so we’ve had to go back to them. We had to buy new pipes and pay for labour to fix the pipes. We can’t use the building if we don’t have working toilets.”

Mr Muganzi said he couldn’t understand what had motivated the two unknown individuals to commit the crime. “I’d like to find out what’s going on in their minds and try to put it right,” he said. “We work with all our community around us, we have open days, we have schoolchildren from the area come to visit, we work with government departments helping them understand about Islam, we host a number of community groups and have the Friends of Piety to ensure we’re working well with our community.”

The police have said there is currently no evidence to suggest there was any ulterior motive behind the arson attack, but say they are keen to hear from anyone who may have information about the incident.

Western Morning News, 27 April 2014


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    • mindy1

      Sad-the haters have no lives >:(

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