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My God is Better Than Yours (II): Robert Morey, The Fake Doctor Behind the “Allah is the Moon-God” Theory

This is page II of My God is Better Than Yours.  (Read page I first.)

In recent times, a common claim furthered by anti-Muslim Christians is that Muslims worship the moon.  It is said that “Allah” refers to the moon-god.  Prof. Judith Mendelsohn Rood notes that this “theory” is slowly becoming “mainstream” in Evangelical circles:

Christian apologists are claiming that Allah is the “moon god” of a pagan religion–a pernicious idea that is making its way increasingly into mainstream evangelical culture.

This moon-god lie originated from “Dr.” Robert Morey, a Christian Evangelist and professional Islamophobe.  Says Morey:

Islam’s origins have been traced back by scholars to the ancient fertility religion of the worship of the moon god which was always the dominant religion of Arabia. The moon god was worshipped by praying toward Mecca several times a day, making an annual pilgrimage to the Kabah which was a temple of the moon god, running around the Kabah seven times, caressing an idol of a black stone set in the wall of the Kabah, running between two hills, making animal sacrifices, gathering on Fridays for prayers, giving alms to the poor, etc.. These were pagan rites practised by the Arabs long before Muhammad was born.

He goes on:

What religion today practices the pagan rites of the moon god? Islam! This explains why the crescent moon is the symbol of Islam. It is placed on top of mosques and minarets and displayed on hats, flags, rugs, amulets and even jewellery. Every time you see the Muslim symbol of a crescent moon, you are seeing the ancient symbol of the moon god.

Morey claims that to defeat Islam, the Judeo-Christian West must nuke the Kaaba in Mecca, saying:

First, as I wrote in my book, How to Win the War Against Radical Islam, the war against the Muslim Jihadists will be long and costly and will not be won until we bomb the Kabah in Mecca.  Islam is based on a brick and mortar building that can be destroyed. They pray to that building five times a day, make a pilgrimage to it, run around it, kiss a black rock on the wall, then run between two hills and finally throw rocks at a pillar. What if that building, the Kabah, was destroyed? They could not pray to it or make a pilgrimage to it. The old pagan temple of the moon-god, al-ilah, is the Achilles’ heel of Islam. Destroy it and you destroy Islam’s soul.

Initially, we had decided that it was not worth our time to refute this silly “Allah is the moon-god” canard: Robert Morey is clearly a loon, and who would take him seriously?  Unfortunately, as we found out, a lot of people.  Indeed, anti-Muslim Christians regularly invoke the moon-god theory, such that it makes it impossible not to deal with this issue.

It would behoove us to first question the source of this moon-god theory: who is Robert Morey?  Is he a credible scholar?  The answer is an emphatic no.  He is a Christian Evangelist and anti-Muslim polemicist: it seems fairly obvious that he has a strong bias.  As is the case with other pro-Christian anti-Muslim ideologues who claim to be “scholars on Islam” (such as Robert Spencer), Morey possesses absolutely no credible academic qualifications on the subject of Islam.

Worse than this, Morey is a quack, claiming credentials that are outright fake: on his website, he claims that he has an honorary doctor of divinity (D.D.) in Islamic Studies from the Faith Theological Seminary located in Pakistan.  Firstly, it should be noted that an “honorary degree” would mean that he never actually attended the school at all.

But if this wasn’t bad enough, the degree itself is fraudulent.  When the Faith Theological Seminary found out Morey was claiming to have a degree from their school, they categorically denied that they had ever issued such a degree to him and ordered him to remove the claim from his site or face criminal charges.  The school referred to Morey’s “degree” as an “illegal and fake degree”.  (Morey did not remove it from his site and continues to claim the degree.)

Robert Morey also claims a PhD in Islamic Studies from the Louisiana Baptist University (LBU).  This is an unaccredited institution that is not recognized by the U.S. Department of Education or by the Council on Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA).  LBU is a “distance learning program” (teaching via the internet), with one alumnus boasting that “the LBU program may be completed 100% via distance learning”, while noting that “I did spend one week on campus”.  In other words, the PhD is “earned” over the internet, not the classroom.

LBU is listed in Steve Levicoff’s Name It and Frame It?: New Opportunities in Adult Education and How to Avoid Being Ripped Off by “Christian” Degree Mills as a “degree mill”, a term used to refer to groups that issue bogus degrees for a fee.  Outside his book, Levicoff put it bluntly: “LBU is a joke.”  Perhaps LBU’s website words it best: “LBU has both the experience and reliability to provide an efficient quality degree program tailored to your needs.”  Indeed!  This is a case of “Phd-for-a-fee or your money back.”

In 1998, the Louisiana Board of Regents (a government agency responsible for overseeing higher education) issued a unanimous ruling to deny LBU an operating license for its business education programs, and ordered the school to cease admitting students and cease advertising.  LBU was later exempted based on the religious institution exemption and was allowed to operate as a religious institution.

Once again, things go from bad to worse for Morey when the matter is investigated further.  Morey claims on his bio that he has obtained a PhD degree in “Islamic Studies”.  The only problem?  LBU does not offer any such degree.  As the OC Weekly noted:

Morey also claims to have received a doctorate from Louisiana Baptist University. Two problems: LBU is unaccredited by the United States government, which means no serious academy would recognize it. Then there’s this: LBU doesn’t offer a Ph.D. in Islamic studies.

The paper is absolutely correct: LBU does not offer any such degree.  When OC Weekly asked him to comment on this “fib”, he altered his story:

When told LBU offers no program in Islamic studies, Morrey corrected himself and said his doctorate is in theology, with an emphasis on Islam.

Yet, Morey’s website and bio to this day continue to claim that he obtained a PhD in Islamic studies. Worse yet, LBU doesn’t even offer a doctorate in theology with an emphasis on Islam.  Graduate degrees that the school does offer include “degrees of Doctor of Philosophy in Biblical Studies, Psychology and Christian Counseling, and Christian Education.” As the OC Weekly sarcastically quipped about Morey’s imaginary degree: “He’s the first and only student to receive such a degree from the school.”

To put the nail in the coffin, there is no way Robert Morey could have studied any degree at LBU with an “emphasis on Islam” because a look at the school’s course catalog reveals that it does not offer a single course having anything to do with Islam.  It is a school that offers courses about Christianity, not Islam.

The fact that Morey had to lie about having an “honorary degree” on the one hand and an online degree from a degree mill on the other hand shows how desperate Robert Morey is that people call him “doctor”. The only other degree Robert Morey could hang his hat on for the title of “doctor” is the “D.Min.” (Doctor of Ministry) in Apologetics that he claims he earned from the Westminster Theological Seminary.

However, it should be noted that the degree of “Doctor of Ministry” can be considered  a “fluff” degree that is no way, shape, or form equivalent to or even comparable to a real PhD.  As one astute blogger worded it:

It’s a match made in heaven.

On one side: a pastor who…needs respect and money and position.

On the other side: floundering seminaries struggling to stay financially afloat in a world of tight budgets and harsher spreadsheets.  These seminaries accept (almost indiscriminately) anyone willing to put down the tuition money, no matter what their moral or intellectual character…

Welcome to the Doctor of Ministry degree. After three quick, easy, study-lite years, the pastor has attained his Doctor of Ministry degree. His doctorate degree.  That degree gives the pastor a tremendous amount of respect now.  He is Dr. Pastor now, a real somebody.  More importantly, there is tremendous upside attached to his new title, and the ceiling on his earning potential has just been lifted.  Dr. Pastor has clout now, or Dr. Rev. Pastor, if you will.   Suffix Suffice it to say, he has respect, money, and position.

Following a familiar pattern, we find that the situation gets worse for “Dr.” Robert Morey when we find out that the Westminster Theological Seminary does not seem to offer a D.Min. in “Apologetics”. It is difficult to determine which of his “credentials” is more impressive: an “illegal or fake degree” from a real university or a fake degree from a fake university or a fake degree from a real university offering fluff degrees?

In any case, Morey quickly transitioned from being the receiver of fake degrees to the one giving them out, and founded the California Biblical University and Seminary, another unaccredited money-making “university”and degree mill.  The “school’s” faculty page listed him as the only faculty member.  Due to reasons that are unclear to us now (legal action?), the school has now disappeared…no doubt after Morey fleeced enough students of their hard-earned cash.

Robert Morey also served as a pastor at the Faith Community Church in California, where members of his church accused him of illegal and immoral behavior, including using church money for his personal expenses.  Consequently, the Fellowship of Independent Reformed Evangelicals (F.I.R.E.) had “Robert Morey Thrown Out Of His Denomination” and forcibly resigned him in a unanimous vote by board officials, declaring that he had “abused his pastoral authority.”

Moriel Ministries stated that Morey was guilty of “gross and habitual financial impropriety” and “academic fraud with a bogus doctorate in Islam”, and mocked him for his outrageous claim that he has “read everything in the US Library of Congress on Islam”, which Moriel astutely points out would mean “over 7,000 volumes, monograms etc. to say nothing of the fact he cannot read Arabic.”  His claim that he has read all of the books on Islam in the U.S. Library of Congress is reminiscent of Sarah Palin’s remark that she “reads all of them”, referring to newspapers.

After closing down his degree mill “university” and being thrown out of his ministry, Robert Morey seems to have in recent years fled the limelight to live away from the public eye.  Nonetheless, his moon-god theory lives on, and has in fact been given a “second wind” thanks to the surge of Islamophobia in the last decade and due to the tireless efforts of a dedicated anti-Muslim contingent trolling the internet.  All of them repeat the same lie that originates from Robert Morey, a fake doctor and quack.

Questioning Robert Morey’s credentials is not mere muckraking; rather, it is important for us to ascertain the unreliable originator of the moon-god theory.  He is not just academically defunct and wholly unreliable; he is an intellectual huckster and fraudster of the highest order.

None of this is to say that Robert Morey is not considered a well-respected author, scholar, and authority in right-wing circles.  Like other self-proclaimed “experts on Islam” used by the right-wing, Morey has no actual academic qualifications or credentials.  This fact, however, does not stop the anti-Muslim bigots from relying on him and others like him.  It is hoped, however, that more neutral minds will not be fooled.

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Before we begin dissecting Morey’s theory, a word might also be said of Yoel Natan, author of the cleverly titled book Moon-O-Theism. Natan’s book helped give the moon-god theory a second wind.  It is on page III that we will turn to this topic.

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  • Sir David ( Illuminati membership number 5:32)

    How can we all be turned against the likes of Sarah Palin when we never liked her in the first place as she is such an air head ?
    Wake up Randal , you are being manipulated.
    Its about healthcare , tax ,employment and housing .
    Not about the continuation of Isreal and the money it gets out of the USA.

    Sir David

  • Sadly, you never uttered a word to discredit the claims of Morey And while YOU may have found only him mentioning the connection between the moon god of antiquity, I have heard it from numerous people, many of them I am confident you will feel okay about their degrees.

    So you admirably discredited one guy who probably got the information about the Moon God of Islam from elsewhere, yet failed to teach me a single reason why I should reject the comparison.

    And please, while claiming by inference to be above juvenile behavior, think about curtailing the practice of calling all Christian commentators that detail the legacy of Islam as Islamaphobes. The suffix itself presents the idea of fear.

    Yet the people of God, many of them at least, probably have little fear of the Muslim religion or people, yet very real awareness of their doctrinal pledge to conquer the world.

    As for me, I am much more leery of the liberal atheist liars who control ABC, NBC, NPR and CBS (along with Comedy Central, BBC, Univision and many many more). For THEY have the power to inject deceit into the hearts of liberal hate zombies, turning them against Sarah Palin, all of Israel, Ronald Reagan, Rush Limbaugh or whoever the machine tells the robots to despise.

    Go to for daily reports of what the liars are up to. See for yourself.

  • Vichy

    Morey’s bullshit D.Min. degree is no more ridiculous than the shit they teach in most colleges today. Unless you’re getting a degree in physics or aircraft engineering Higher Education is just a Seminary for Political Correctness.

  • BetEl

    Destroy the Kaba? Muslim tradition holds that the Imam al-Mahdi will indeed destroy it, to rebuild it once again. At least according to shi’i tradition.

  • Nele

    Maybe I’ll find out in the following articles why Mecca should be nuked. As I see it, the Moon should be nuked in order to make a real statement. No more Islamic calendar, no more reliable fasting times (actually, for no-one, since Christian and sure, Jewish fasting is also depending on lunar calculations:, but who cares: Muslims would be severely hit by a destroyed moon, so let’s go for it!

  • Leslie

    “… praying toward Mecca several times a day, making an annual pilgrimage to the Kabah which was a temple of the moon god, running around the Kabah seven times, caressing an idol of a black stone set in the wall of the Kabah, running between two hills, making animal sacrifices, gathering on Fridays for prayers, giving alms to the poor, etc.. These were pagan rites practised by the Arabs long before Muhammad was born.”

    I was curious about this section, and disappointed you didn’t address it. I know the Kabah and pilgrimages to the Kabah predate Islam, but what about the rest of it? Which of these customs actually do predate Islam?

  • Khushboo

    Hindus accept the fact that their religion is not a monotheistic religion. They certainly believe in more than one god and use objects to get closer to gods which is a form of idolatry. I certainly don’t judge them as only God can judge.

    and Buddhists do worship Buddha.

  • Jack

    @Zakariya Ali Sher; excellent post.

    Seriously, if Muslims feel that people shouldn’t judge negatively about their religious convictions on the basis of preconceived (often ill-informed) notions and misconceptions, but should take the time to ask Muslims about how their faith works and study a little about the things they want to criticize; it’s only fair to extend the same courtesy to others, who might entertain faith traditions that we don’t fully understand or can appreciate.

    The same goes for atheists, by the way, who tend to dismiss people as retarded for believing in faith systems and ancient scriptures that seem far-fetched and fanciful to the unbeliever.

  • Zakariya Ali Sher

    I wouldn’t call Hindus or Buddhists idolators. While some Hindu schools feature devotion to images of the gods – usually either the big ones like Shiva, Vishnu (or one of his avatara), Devi (or one of her countless other forms like Kali, Durga, Parvati, etc) or one of the many local deities – Hinduism is so broad and diverse that it’s hard to make generalizations. In fact, the general belief in Hinduism is that ALL the ‘gods’ are merely representations of a greater supernatural force that permeates the world. They believe in God… as in ONE and only one God. Some schools of Hinduism are extremely aniconic; hence the veneration of the lingam as a symbol of Shiva rather than an iconic representation. There are also some schools of Hinduism that could be called atheistic.

    Buddhism is even less iconic than Hinduism. Buddhists do not worship the Buddha. There is a famous Zen quote that if you meet the Buddha, you should kill him because he will only distract you from enlightenment. The belief of Buddhism is that the Buddha Sakyamuni (that is to say, the historical figure known as the Buddha) was a man who achieved enlightenment. His TEACHINGS about suffering and the nature of reality are important, but there were Buddhas before him and there will be other Buddhas after him. Remember, Buddhism arose in India from the same philosophical stream that gave us both Hinduism and Jainism. Hence the cyclical nature. The goal is to ultimately liberate onself from the cycle of reincarnation. Hence the Buddha is most definitely not a god, nor even viewed the same way we Muslims view the Prophet.

    The Indian roots mean that there IS a great deal of overlap between Hinduism and Buddhism. Early Buddhists have always accepted the rich heritage of Hindu mythology. Figures like Indra, Brahma, Shiva, Vishnu, Surya and various goddesses appear in Buddhist art throughout India, Sri Lanka, Tibet and SE Asia, as do mythical races like Naga, Apsara, Pisacha and the like (which can be thought of the same way we do the Djinn). Often times they took on localized names, so ‘Indra’ is called ‘Thagyamin’ or ‘Sakka’ in Burma, while the Japanese know ‘Preta’ as ‘Gaki’. Buddhists accept the cycle of reincarnation so they believe that the atman (soul) goes through the world as human, animal, preta (hungry ghost), deva, asura, naraka, etc.

    BUT… most Buddhists, especially those who are educated within the sangha as monks, do not worship these beings. Obviously when you get out in rural SE Asia, China and Tibet, you still have a lot of old shamanistic, animistic and spiritual traditions that seek to appease, worship, cajole or otherwise influence supernatural beings. But then I can think of parts of the Muslim world like Nigeria, Sudan or Indonesia where our brothers try to do the same with Djinn. These are folk traditions that co-exist alongside Buddhism, within the same cultural paradgim. For Buddhists themselves, save certain schools of Tantric, Mahayana and Pure Lands Buddhism, the point is not to seek salvation through the interventation of supernatural beings or powers. It’s to achieve enlightenment by following the teachings of the Buddha Sakyamuni.

    We should refrain from making false accusations against other religions. Though I’m aware some of my brothers might not share the same respect that I do for Hinduism and Buddhism, there is no need to call them ‘idolators’. These are rich religions with their own literary and scholarly traditions. Hell, for many of us, we share cultural roots in Asia and Islam has been influenced by both faiths. To my mind we should be embracing it. Ever heard of the Sikhs? Their founder famously once said that there is no Hindu, there is no Muslim, there is only Sikh. There are plenty of pious Muslims who are venerated as heroes throughout India, Burma, even Southeast Asia. While I do not advocate shirk, obviously, I’m also not a fan of the Wahhabis who would strip away every trace of our culture.

    If my Brothers and Sisters can accept that the Christians and Jews share the same faith in God as we do, then I don’t see why it’s too much to consider that Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Taoism, Confucianism, Bon, Manichaeism, Zurvanism and Zoroastrianism might also been amongst the divinely inspired faiths of old.

  • Farlowe

    I don’t see how all Buddhists are idolators. Some Buddhists have a sort of bhakti yoga (devotional worship) with Buddha as an ‘almost god like figure’ to focus on. That could be seen as idolatry but there are Buddhists who do not have Buddha as an object of bhakti yoga. In that case I don’t see they are idolators.

  • Abdus-Sabur

    hmm…think I’ll set up a 501(c)3 type of deal and call it “Scholars for Dollars University”

  • Jack

    “This idea is very dangerous. If you believe that Muslims are worshiping an idol, then there is no basis even to talk to them. They are pagan idolaters like Hindus and Buddhists.”

    Why wouldn’t I want to talk to Hindus and Buddhists? I’ve corrected a lot of my own misconceptions about Hinduism by talking to Hindus. For instance, the idea, that Hindu’s really believe that there are loads of gods: that didn’t make much sense to me, but then someone explained to me that in the Hindu frame of mind, these are all different manifestations of the divine, of the one God.

    For instance, fortune is a part of life (a manifestation of the divine) but so is destruction. Fertility is another manifestation of the divine, and so on and so forth. Life itself, is a multifaceted manifestation of God. Yet at the same time, the world as we percieve it, is also an illusion, because of it’s materialization and our desire to grasp ‘it’. This seems akin to the philosophy of Plato, that the world around us are manifestations of ideas, but as they take physical shape, the spiritual reality behind it becomes diluted.

  • Awesome

    The moon-god theory has been debunked for years:




    The theory itself stems from the view that the name “Allah” is an etymological contraction of the title “al-ilah” (“the-deity”), which was used for various idol gods in pre-Islamic pagan Arabia. Aside from the contraction theory not really being established as fact, there is also no evidence that the name “Allah” itself was ever used by those pagans for any other deity besides the the supreme, abstract, creator-god in Heaven.

  • nadeem khan

    In Arabic, Allah means literally the one God. It is pretty easy to understand how different languages give the same thing different names. Is it that unusual to hear Muslims call God another name, like “Allah”, while you call him God or Lord? Some people have no minds; in the last decade, a growing phenomenon was seen on the internet and in published literature. Allah is said to be the “moon god” that Arabs worshiped, and Kaaba (The Muslims holiest place on Earth) is His temple. The evidence for this theory is the crescent that appears on the top of many mosques all over the world plus a fabricated picture of the “moon god”.

    This idea is very dangerous. If you believe that Muslims are worshiping an idol, then there is no basis even to talk to them. They are pagan idolaters like Hindus and Buddhists. It is alleged that although Islam is a monotheistic religion, the Muslims’ only God is simply another idol that Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) chose (or in some versions of the story, he made it up).

    To invalidate this foolish theory, one has to take the story from different angles.

    The crescent is not a symbol of Islam, but of the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans are those tribes that moved to Turkey from east and middle Asia. They converted to Islam and built a huge Muslim Empire that ruled the whole Muslim world for centuries. When they took Islam as a religion they started using the lunar calendar, the calendar that was used by Muslims, Jews and early Christians. Even today, the flag of Turkey has a crescent on it. There was no crescent on any mosque built before the Ottomans era.

    Prophet Abraham built the Kaaba for people to worship God. While pagan Arabs admitted this fact and even kept the stone where he used to stand to build the Kaaba (Abraham’s station), they brought idols to the Kaaba and worshiped them to get closer to Abraham’s Lord, Allah, God of gods. Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) came with the monotheistic message of Islam. Arabs defended these idols and refused to give up the religion of their fathers and grandfathers. They offered to Muhammad a deal, that is to worship their gods for one year, and they worship Allah alone for one year. A chapter of the Quran came with the response from God to this evil invitation:

    [Say : O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine. ]109:1-6

    Later on, the Quran started calling Allah by other names. One of those holy names was Al-Rahman (the Gracious). Arabs wondered:”is this a new God?” The Quran responded again:

    [Say: “Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman: by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well): for to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names. ]17:110

    It is not a new god; it is a new name for the same God. Allah has ninety nine names in Islam; all of them are holy and speak about different attributes of the same creator, almighty Allah. As an example, read these verses of the Quran:

    [Allah is He, than Whom there is no other god; Who knows (all things) both secret and open; He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

    Allah is He, than Whom there is no other god; the Sovereign, the Holy One, the Source of Peace (and Perfection), the Guardian of Faith, the Preserver of Safety, the Exalted in Might, the Irresistible, the Supreme: Glory to Allah! (High is He) above the partners they attribute to Him.

    He is Allah, the Creator, the Evolver, the Bestower of Forms (or Colours). To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names: whatever is in the heavens and on earth, doth declare His Praises and Glory; and He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.]59:22-24

    When Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) came back to Mecca, he entered the city peacefully on the top of an army of 10,000 men, exactly as the Bible described him “pre-eminent above ten thousand.” (Solomon 5:10). He did not burn a single home; he did not harm a single person; he just went to the Kaaba and destroyed all the gods Arabs had there. He kept nothing in the Kaaba. Where is this picture of the moon god coming from? I don’t know. Did anyone of the pagan Arabs have a digital camera by then?

    There is evidence that the word Allah existed before the birth of Muhammad PBUH for thousands of years. It is probably the oldest name man used to call God. Most likely, Adam used the word Allah to call the Lord. On the other hand, the word “GOD” was born with the English language, less than ten centuries ago. Can we say that all English speaking nations are pagans because they use the word “God”? What about Chinese monotheists? How should they call God?

    Prophet Muhammad’s father’s name was Abdullah (The slave of Allah). This name was common among Arab pagans and Jews. Abdullah bin Salam was one of the first Jews to convert to Islam in Medina. When Arabs call Allah in prayer they say: “Ya Allah” or “Allahoma”. Aren’t these words familiar to you? “Alleluia” and “Elohim” are the words used to call Allah in the Bible. In Hebrew, the suffix im means many. So Elohim literally means many Allah(s). This is a known way to express dignity and respect to almighty Allah by calling Him pleural. This phenomenon is known in Hebrew, Arabic, English and other languages. In Quran, the same pattern is seen many times. For example, God says in the holy Quran:

    [ We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption). ]15:9.

    In the English translation of the Bible, you read, “Let us make man in our image”-Genesis 1:26-KJV.

    The word Allah is used in all Arabic translations of the Bible. It was used in some English translations of the Bible like the original “Scofield Reference Bible”-reference: what is his name? by Deedat. In the New Testament, Jesus is believed to cry before his death “ELOI, ELOI, LAMA SABACHTHANI?” Eloi is the exact Arabic word “Elahi” which comes from the same root as Allah.

    I have no doubt that the word “Allah” is the oldest known name man called God with. For those who choose to ignore this fact and transgress, Muslims have nothing to offer. Allah says in the holy Quran:

    [If any, after this, invent a lie and attribute it to Allah, they are indeed unjust wrong-doers.] 3:94

    For Muslims, Allah is perfect. He has no partners. We worship Him and Him alone. Our faith is summarized in the holy Quran:

    [Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.]112:1-4

  • Superpowerarsenal

    Quran 41:37 “And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Do not bow down (prostrate) to the sun nor to the moon, but only bow down (prostrate) to “Allah” Who created them, if you (really) worship Him.”

    The moon is not God, Quran 6:77 “Then, when he beheld the moon rising, he said, “This is my Sustainer!”-but when it went down, he said, “Indeed, if my Sustainer guide me not. I will most certainly become one of the people who go astray!”

    I’ve yet to hear those idiots respond to these verses.

  • the star and crescent is an innovation but it is recognizable and convenient. (if we used the shahadah or allahu-akbar or something similar then there would be rules about taking it into the bathroom etc.)

  • Ricky

    Morey is in good company when it comes to fraudulent credentials. Terry Jones of Burn A Quran Day fame, also claims to be a “doctor” with no actual doctorate from an accredited institution. People like these were called snake oil salesmen back in the day.

  • Ian Gould

    “He is somewhat right about the crescent moon thing, it was a pagan Greek symbol and the symbol of Constantinople. After the Turks conquered it they kept the flag and symbol which then spread because of the Ottoman Empire. It has nothing to do with Islam and wasn’t used at the time of the Prophet (SAWS) but is an unofficial symbol, personally I hate it and wish Muslims would recognize it as an innovation and stop using it.”

    Yes, but between being a pagan symbol and being an Islamic (well actually an Ottoman symbol and then an Islamic symbol) it was a symbol of the Virgin Mary and it was in that capacity that it was adopted by Constantinople. (The Virgin’s intervention was credited with saving the city during a siege.)

    So far from being the symbol of some largely-imaginary mood god. the cresent moon is the symbol of Mary/Miriam a figure revered by both Christians and Muslims.

  • Jack

    Even Christians denounce him: not only Morey’s credentials and actions, but also his so-called knowledge of Islam?

    Christian Missionary Waleed Nassar calls him an outright fraud who teaches misconceptions of Islam. Mind you, Nassar is a Christian Missionary who runs a ministry specializing in proselytizing Muslims in the Middle East, Africa and Asia to become Christians.

    He mentions many elementary mistakes and misconceptions in the book ‘Islamic Invasion’ by dr. Morey, but one of the most obvious and damning ones is that Morey, when writing the book, thought that “the Battle of Uhud” is meant to denote a certain commander of the Meccan army.

    It starts with a letter to another Christian who exposed Morey (and who was subsequently portrayed as a fraud a thief by Morey – this seems to be his M.O. when called out for by fellow Christians: he then starts smearing their character).

    From page 2 onward, there’s an appendix to a book Nassar wrote, and the appendix deals with Christian apologists and so-called ‘experts on Islam’ who slander Islam without knowing what they are talking about. Nassar takes Morey as an example. It’s an interesting read, because what this Christian Missionary says about Morey’s incompetence and lack of scholarly attitude applies to the likes of Spencer and other islamophobes as well.

  • Zakariya Ali Sher

    1. Robert Morey is a twit. No, seriously, as far as I can tell he was a nobody who began preaching his anti-Muslim, anti-Catholic, anti-Wiccan, anti-Mason and anti-Atheist crap some point around the ’90s. For what it’s worth, Corey, Jack Chick was (and presumably still is) one of Morey’s biggest fan boys. He used to advertise Morey’s books on his website. But what made Morey REALLY take off was 9-11… while people like Robert Spencer were nobodies on that day, Morey could claim tons of self-published books attacking Islam, Muslims and all of us evil non-Christian heathens.

    As this article explains, Morey has had his share of legal troubles. Given that he lies about his credentials I don’t think that’ll be too surprising to anyone here. As I understand it he used to run some sort of mega-church out in California, but was doing something fishy with the money and was ultimately kicked out by his fellows before fleeing to some small town in Pennsylvania. It would be most interesting to learn more about that, because I strongly suspect we will one day hear the same sort of thing happening with Pammy cakes and little Robby…

    2. The symbolism of the crescent matters far less in Islam than it does in the mind of certain Islamophobes. It was not seen as a ‘symbol of Islam’ during the Prophet’s lifetime, nor has it ever been universal. In fact most of the old Arab dynasties used plain colored flags – green for the Fatimids, black for the ‘Abbasids and white for the Umayyads. Add red (frequently credited to either the Maghrebi dynasties like the Almoravids, Almohads and Marinids, or to the Ottoman Turks) and you have the pan-Arab colors! Because of the generally aniconic nature of Islam geometric shapes (including the crescent and half moon) do find their way into Islamic heraldry… but so do animals, most prominently Saladin’s eagle (again widely used in Arab national symbols today from Egypt to Iraq to even Yemen).

    By the time of the Crusades both Christians and Muslims alike were using the crescent moon, albeit more of a personal, familial or regimental symbol rather than an inherently religious one. In fact, I believe that at least part of the reason the crescent became associated with Islam so strongly was because the Turks (who became the driving empires in the Muslim world over the last few centuries) were already accustomed to using the crescent moon as a symbol for heaven in their shamanic rituals. This can be found amongst the old Göktürk and more modern groups like the Yakut (neither being associated with Islam). Similarly outsiders – both non-Muslims and non-Turkish Muslim – simply began accepting this heraldic symbol.

    It is very telling that the symbol took longer to catch on in Persia which was ruled by the Safavids (a Turkic dynasty that adopted Ithna’ashari Shi’ism). The Safavids and their successors adopted the old Persian symbols of the lion and the sun to represent both Imam Ali and the title of Shah. The Persian government has even gone so far as using it in opposition to the crescent – This is not some attempt at ‘hiding’ our pagan roots as some Islamophobes might imply. The lion and sun symbol definitely goes back to classical Persia as do many other national symbols in Iran (though obviously the connection to Ali, who tradition states did indeed bear titles like ‘Haydar’ and ‘Assadullah,’ must have came around the 16th century or so).

    But it applies not only to Iran but elsewhere. Saudi Arabia – being the center of Wahhabism – does not use the crescent moon and has not for over a hundred years. Their flag simply bears the text ‘There is no God but God and Muhammad is the Prophet of God.’ Libya has opted to keep a solid green flag, a tradition borrowed from earlier dynasties like the Fatimids. In Morocco, the flag is still a red field with a single green star on it, owing to the King’s heraldry. Etc, etc.

    3. In total agreement with abdul-halim here. The Jews as a people have survived two millennia with the Temple Mount destroyed, their people scattered across Europe, Africa and the Middle East, their faith, culture and language often times forcibly suppressed by the dominant culture… and yet they have managed to maintain their own communities. It is a special irony because we Muslims are so close to the Jews in many ways. We share similar dietary restrictions, for example.

    The only REAL difference is that we Muslims can claim to be a majority, not just in the Middle East, but across North and West Africa, parts of the Balkans, most of Central Asia, a good chunk of the Indian Subcontinent (including the countries of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh and the Maldives) and the Malay world. Even if al-Makkah were destroyed and our culture were suppressed in western Europe, we could easily continue being Muslim in a significant portion of the globe. I could go anywhere from Tangier to Toshkent and find 7alal food or a masjid to pray in! Our Jewish brethern were not so fortunate!

    4. I know this will sound rude but… yeah, he looks pretty bad in the photo. I’ve never seen what he looked like before, and after this I think I know why he never put pics of himself up on the web… ewww…

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