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Ahavath Torah Congregation and Great Neck Synagogue Give Platform to Hate Group Leaders

By on March 20, 2013 in Loon Rabbis

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by Emperor

It is sad and dangerous when a religious institution actively allows itself to be used as a platform for hate-mongers who have inspired terrorists and incite hatred and prejudice against Muslims.

Ahavath Torah Synagogue, led by the Betraying Rabbi Jon Hausman has a long history of allowing itself to be used in such a way, for instance making the pulpit available to the likes of Geert “no religious freedom for Muslims” Wilders and Wafa “nuke ’em” Sultan.

Both Ahavath Torah Synagogue and Great Neck Synagogue should be ashamed of themselves; real embarrassments to Judaism.

Lars Hedegaard, Robert Spencer, Andrew Bostom, Tiffany Gabbay to speak on panel discussion regarding “Sharia’s Assault on Free Speech.”

Lars Hedegaard Robert Spencer Tiffany Gabbay Dr. Andrew Bostom Moderated by Michael Graham*

Each of these individuals possess deep knowledge forged by years of involvement. No doubt this will prove to be an enlightening evening.

*This event is co-sponsored by Act for America and Michael Graham’s “New England Talk Network”.

When: Wednesday March 20, 2013 Time: 7:00PM Address: Ahavath Torah Congregation, 1179 Central Street, Stoughton, MA Price: $15 per person in advance, $20/$25 at the door, $10 for students with valid student ID.

Pamela “the looniest blogger ever” Geller will be speaking to Great Neck Synagogue:

On Sunday Morning, April 14, at 10:00am, the Great Neck Synagogue Men’s Club presents Pamela Geller, Founder of the influential “Atlas Shrugs” blog and Executive Director of the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI) and Stop Islamization of America (SIOA).

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Geller will be introduced by Greg Buckley, whose son, Lance Corporal Greg Buckley, Jr., was one of three Marines killed in a “Green on Blue” insider attack on his military base in the Helmand province, Afghanistan on Aug 10.

Related: –ACT! For America is Better Known as Hate! For America

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    • Stephen G. Parker

      JSB – You’re quite correct, of course, that context makes a huge difference. With respect to Pam Geller’s statements, context is not at all difficult to determine. With respect to Amie, though, it’s an entirely different matter. I have no context in which to place Amie. Perhaps you do? It seems to me that you’re just making a ‘knee-jerk’ assumption regarding Amie’s 2 simple statements. Because you know very well that there are indeed people who believe that all Zionist Jews (and in reality all Jews) are inherently evil and ‘Islamophobes’, you have assumed that Amie’s statements (without any context with which to relate them) indicate that she is among those people.

      As to whether or not you’re really correct, I guess we’ll just have to leave it up to Amie to determine. If she wishes to clarify her views, that’s fine. So if she says something like: “Well of course all Zionist Jews are vicious ‘Islamophobes. Everybody knows that!” – well, we’ll know you’re correct in your assumptions. Or if you can produce other statements by Amie (from a blog, or former comments on Loonwatch, etc.), you will also prove your assumption correct.

      Until such time, though, I will prefer to give her the benefit of the doubt and presume her ‘innocent’. She just made two statements that are clearly true with regard to Pam Geller and the synagogues in question, without making further generalizations about “all Jews” or “all Zionist Jews”.

    • Just_Stopping_By

      Pamela Geller puts up subway and bus ads with provocative statements from individual Muslims or statements taken out of context from the Qur’an. Pamela Geller also uses the word “jihad” in those ads without defining it. So, Pamela Geller has said nothing explicitly false in those particular ads, but context does matter.

      If Geller were just condemning individuals without trying to tie their statements to a religion, it wouldn’t be a big deal. But, her implication is that Islam is problematic, and that is something I object to strongly, even if each individual quote Geller provides is technically accurate as a quotation. Same thing here.

      As an aside, while we all know who Geller and her ilk are and the hatred they spew, I have no idea how well known she is in general. If the synagogues did not know that those speakers had a bigoted agenda, they should apologize and disinvite those speakers. If they did know, that is truly awful, and they should apologize even more profusely.

    • Stephen G. Parker

      Thank you for the reply, “Just_Stopping_By”. However, I still think that you’re being too quick to jump on Amie for supposedly exposing herself as someone who is an “Anti-Jewish” anti-Zionist.

      Amie made two statements, both of which are clearly true. (1) Pam Geller is a Zionist Jewess. Surely one can’t get upset because she pointed out the obvious. (2) Amie suggested that perhaps the synagogues shared Pam’s views. I can’t see here any suggestion that the synagogues must share Pam’s viewpoints simply because they’re Jewish. What seems clear to me is that because the Jews of one of the synagogues has invited Zionist Jewess Pam to speak (and it’s unlikely that they’re unfamiliar with Pam and what she espouses); and another synagogue has invited 3 other anti-Muslims who share Pam’s viewpoints to a large degree; then isn’t it pretty clear that those synagogues share Pam’s anti-Muslim viewpoints?

      It’s not as if Amie had said that Pam is Jewish and Zionist, therefore all other Jewish Zionists must agree with her. But when a Jewish synagogue deliberately invites her to speak there, and another deliberately invites 3 other ‘Islamophobes’, then it seems like a very justified conclusion that those Jewish synagogues might perhaps have ‘Islamophobic’ viewpoints. There’s just no reason to jump to the conclusion that Amie is demonstrating anti-Jewishness by her statement.

    • Just_Stopping_By

      SGP:

      I know you are being tongue in cheek, because we all know that many (indeed, presumably most) Jews are Zionists. And I give you credit for recognizing that the Neturei Karta are clearly anti-Zionist Jews. So, at least you are not arguing from a position of ignorance.

      So, why am I “overly sensitive”? It’s largely the implication that being Jewish or Zionist, and presumably especially both together, makes one anti-Muslim. There is a difference, for example between “Barack Obama attended Jeremiah Wright’s church and so may share his views” and “Barack Obama is black and attended Jeremiah Wright’s mostly black church, so Obama may share Wright’s views.” I view the first statement as fair game for debate, but the second as offensive.

      If one wants to condemn the synagogues for hosting those speakers, then get in line and join me, because I do so. But I would condemn any organization hosting those speakers without the need to bring up the organization’s religious background, with the implicit suggestion that that religion is to blame.

      As you note, there are Jews who are not anti-Muslim, and, in fact, the Gallup survey suggests that once you match Americans on various characteristics, Jews are actually less likely to be anti-Muslim, or at least less likely to appear to be so to Gallup. And since most American Jews are Zionists, one can pretty much say, based on the Gallup survey, that Zionist Jews in the U.S. are actually less likely to express anti-Muslim views than other Americans (using the same types of matching or controls that Gallup used). It’s a complicated issue dealing with similarity in religious views (tawhid), practices (such as the concepts of dietary restrictions or religious courts), history (the Golden Age of Judaism in Muslim Spain), being a religious minority in the U.S., and even Middle East politics (more complicated, but most Zionists do want Israel to have good relations with Muslim-majority countries, though they may not be willing to support the types of actions that would make that more likely).

      There are certainly prominent Islamophobes in the Jewish community, but there are prominent Islamophiles as well, and simple claimed or implied associations between bigotry and adherents of any religion are more for the types of blogs LoonWatch opposes than for us.

  • Stephen G. Parker

    My goodness, you sure are overly sensitive about using the word “Jew” (or “Jewess”) together with the word Zionist!

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